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List of chief ministers from Bharatiya Janata Party edit

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Nominator(s): ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because it meets all the criteria. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:59, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose As somebody who's spent a lot of time on chief-minister articles, I've come across a number of difficulties which has prevented me from nominating any (except the relatively simple List of current Indian chief ministers) at FLC. I see a number of those problems here:

  • the primary one is sourcing. WorldStatesmen.org seems to be a crowdsourced project, and I thus doubt it can be considered as a reliable source. You'll have go to individual state-govts' websites and hunt for CM-related info. In several cases these don't even exist.
  • What makes photius.com an RS?  Done
  • The Term (tenure length) column seems to be inspired by this. However that article was simpler in the sense that whoever was longest-serving was also the earliest occupant. In this BJP article, there's no way to use the sort function to rank by tenure lengths. There's also no mention of total length of tenures.  Done
  • You don't need to use ref [4] in the lead. It is backed up by the table.  Done
  • That map is extremely strange. It goes from lighter to darker shade of the same colour--giving the impression that a darker state has had more CMs than a lighter one. For eg.
  • IMO don't make any special indication for "regional party supported by the BJP". This article is about BJP's CMs, not BJP govts. Plus it's never really clear who is supporting who in Indian politics, so you'd need a source to back these claims.
  • On the whole: reconsider the purpose of the map. As a national party, obviously it will have a presence in nearly the whole country. Maybe just listing the four incumbent states is enough? Or maybe colour-code the states by no of CMs?
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  • "(First time)" and so on don't really serve any purpose. The tenures are clear without them.  Done—indopug (talk) 21:33, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have opened a thread here about the source. I will fix all other issues once it gets clear whether the source is reliable or not. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 13:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support This article is complete in itself with reliable sources. This article should be in Featured list.--Prateek MalviyaTalk 03:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me)
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  • Any reasons for not including the No. column?
The CMs are initially sorted by their states. The No. column would had been appropriate if sorting would had been on the basis of name or something which is unique to each one.
  • Rowscopes can be for "Name" column rather than the "State" column, as the former is more significant in this list.
I have added "rowspan" to the "State" column and thus it automatically has row scope. I can add rowscope to Name column if you don't have any problems with two rowscopes.
Since this list is about the list of chief ministers, I thought the "chief minister" column is the most important. —Vensatry (Ping me) 16:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
 Done
  • Is "worldstatesmen.org" as RS? same for "jagranjosh.com"
Editors' views are not uniform when it comes to "worldstatesmen.org". I got only one response at WP:RSN regarding this, which suggested that this source can be used in this list. There is no alternative for this source. As for jagranjosh.com, it is a sister site of a well-known Hindi newspaper, and I am cent percent sure about its reliability.
Could you name the newspaper? —Vensatry (Ping me) 16:54, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Dainik Jagran
  • Check whether all the images are free from cop-vio.
 Done However I am not sure in the case of File:Dhumal HP.jpg and File:DV Sadananda Gowda.jpg.
  • Remove the second template as it doesn't link to the list.  Done

—Vensatry (Ping me) 17:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question: Have sourcing concerns been addressed? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 22:45, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
See my response to Vensatry's comment. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 14:36, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:58, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose
  • Ensure publication/access dates are consistently formatted.  Done
  • Wouldn't a more suitable See also be "List of chief ministers from India National Congress" rather than the rather vague ones you currently have?  Done
  • Shouldn't the title of this list be "... from _the_ Bharatiya..."?  Done
  • "Serving since October 2001 (for 12 years, 51 days), Modi is the longest-serving" repetitive use of "serving".  Done
  • "Given he has ... he/she..." consistency required.  Done
  • I would put the key at the top of the table rather than wait for readers to scroll to the bottom of the table before discovering what the colour and asterisk relate to.  Done
  • "for the least time-period" this isn't grammatically correct English. "shortest period" would be better.  Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 11:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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