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Cardiff City F.C. league record by opponent edit

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Nominator(s): Kosack (talk) 16:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I have rebuilt the page from scratch to convert the original article into a league only record inline with the standard layout for club result pages and I believe it now meets the FL criteria. Kosack (talk) 16:25, 19 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support on style and comprehensiveness. Minor quibbles:

  • "They achieved their highest ever position during the 1923–24 season, finishing in second place of the First Division, losing the league title on goal average to Huddersfield Town," could be tightened. Not a big fan of the -ing repetition.
  • You need to add 'Category:English football club league records by opponent' at the bottom
  • The reliability of Soccerbase is questionable. Some users have reported missing data, myself included. Best add another site in case.
  • Ref 1 needs date.
  • Could add alt text for image. Lemonade51 (talk) 17:05, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Lemonade51: Thanks for the review, I've made all of the changes above bar one. I'm probably opening the age old can of worms but Cardiff are a Welsh team playing in the English leagues not an English team as the category seems to suggest. Kosack (talk) 18:52, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
'Category:Association football league records by opponent' would suffice. Lemonade51 (talk) 13:27, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Added. Kosack (talk) 13:35, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "They were relegated from the First Division in 1929 and have spent a further 8 seasons in the first tier since" reads odd to me that you talk about relegation then the fact they've been at the top tier for eight (not 8) more seasons...
  • " The club's first competitive fixture as a professional team came on 24 September 1910 against Ton Pentre,[4] the opening day of the 1910–11 season, in the Second Division of the Southern Football League and their first fixture in the Football League came on 28 August 1920 against Stockport County.[5] " too long, split, and move "the opening day" to next to the date, e.g. "The club's first competitive fixture as a professional team came against Ton Pentre on 24 September 1910, the opening day of the 1910–11 season,..."
  • "and most recent opponent " I know what you're trying to say, but it was really their most recent new opponent or something of that ilk, because their most recent opponent (as I write) is Sunderland.
  • " most amount of victories " remove "amount of".

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review, I've sorted out the issues you listed above. Kosack (talk) 12:06, 25 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Harrias talk
  • "..but lost the league title on goal average.." – Explain, either with a note or a wikilink what "goal average" is.
  • "..in the first tier.." – "top tier" might work better; first tier is ambiguous, and could apply equally to the highest, or lowest, tier.
  • "..against Stockport County.[5] they met.." – Full stop, but not capital letter.
  • What makes 11vs11.com a reliable source?
  • What makes Football Club History Database a reliable source?
  • Not that I'm overly fussed, but the MK Dons reference doesn't cover the stated fact that they "renounced all claims to Wimbledon's history in 2007".

Overall, a good piece of work, with just minor quibbles really. Harrias talk 16:04, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Harrias: Thanks for the review, I've amended all of the grammatical mistakes and added an extra reference for the Wimbledon note. As for the two refs, 11vs11 is the official website of the Association of Football Statisticians and, although I'm unaware of any publisher other than the author, the Football Club History Database is widely considered a reliable source at WP:FOOTBALL and has been used in other featured lists such as List of York City F.C. players and has a template setup to include its use on Wikipedia at Template:Fchd. Kosack (talk) 18:07, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 00:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • The comma before "the most recent return was a one-year spell in the 2013–14 season" should probably be a semi-colon instead.
  • Commas could be added before and after Burton Albion.
  • The photo caption says that the picture is from the 1919 Welsh Cup final, but the photo information says it's from 1920.
  • Footnote F: The information about Milton Keynes Dons renouncing the Wimbledon history can't be covered by the source, since it's from 2004 and the renouncing didn't happen until a few years later. That's going to need a second cite. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:23, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Giants2008: Thanks for the review, I've fixed the issues listed above. Kosack (talk) 08:20, 3 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – Having made a couple fixes to a reference added in response to one of my comments, I think this meets FL standards now. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:14, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 20:02, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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