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Please use this page for discussions surrounding the creation of "Did You Know" items for April Fools' Day 2019

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Ground rules for this activity along with a list of participants may be found on the Main talk page.

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RulesEdit

April Fools Did You Know items should present some trivia that can be presented in a manner that is possibly unbelievable to the reader. This can be done through words or names that mean two different things, shortened names, unbelievable facts, unrelated facts, etc. The normal written and unwritten rules for Did You Know (DYK) are followed, with these exceptions...

  • April Fools DYKs are subject to the usual exclusions regarding prior Main Page appearance, but the normal rules for special occasions do not apply: the article need only have been created/expanded/brought to GA in the year immediately preceding the April 1 on which it will appear.
  • Proper capitalization, title formatting, and linking standards may be disregarded only if adhering to them will tend to give away the joke. This should be done as little as possible. (example from 2009: "... that Caviar, Chardonnay, and Hot Cocoa compete for the love of Ray J? ")

All other Wikipedia rules and guidelines still apply. Pay special attention to Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons guidelines if your hook relates to a living person.

Remember, we are trying to confuse and mislead Wikipedians and visitors, not lie to them. Keep all hooks and articles completely truthful, but outrageous. (examples from 2010: A hook claiming Dmitry Medvedev died in 2005 is ok, saying Mikheil Saakashvili died is not.)

How to review a nominationEdit

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets the DYK criteria except, per above, the normal new enough rule (long enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines.

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NominationsEdit

Awaiting verificationEdit

Note: Nominations for April 1 should be added to Template talk:Did you know in the usual way, as well as below.

Herrera v. Wyoming

Created by DannyS712 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:53, 18 June 2019 (UTC).

  • I'm not sure the pun on an ethnic name is a good idea (esp. for April 1, for which this has been nominated). If it was really, REALLY funny that would be one thing, but it's only very modestly amusing or clever at best. I see trouble ahead. EEng 04:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
    •   We are not here to be PC (as NOTCENSORED is supposed to attest), we are here for AFD to be funny. I see no problem with it. Now for the reivew: Date, length and hook all OK under DYK and AFD rules. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. Good to go. Well done @DannyS712: on the first approved hook for April Fools Day 2020. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 17:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
      Jesus, this has nothing to do with censorship, nor with the dopey concept of "PC". I can say without fear of contradiction that there is no WP editor more willing than I to find a laugh wherever one is available. The problem is, as I already said, this really isn't funny or clever; it's a lame and obvious pun. At the very least, if we're going to bore our readers with this on AFD, the word crow should be lower-cased, or there's no joke at all. EEng 22:48, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
      @EEng: alt 1 added accordingly --DannyS712 (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Alt 1 ... that a crow won a Supreme Court case against Wyoming? Source: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2018/17-532
    Despite what was said, Crow would need to be uppercase. I would also be wary of the term for nation and people being applied to an individual, which reads to me as "a British won a court case", but I'm applying usage of national and ethnic terms from elsewhere. On the other hand, "an American won court case" would work, but that is just what happened and not funny either. cygnis insignis 23:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
    I'll just say it one more time before unwatching: either phrasing -- a crow or a Crow -- is weakly amusing at the very best, is a bad idea, and has a good chance of ending in tears. EEng 02:44, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
  •   As we have ample evidence based on a number of his own nominated hooks that The C of E is not a good judge of what is appropriate when it comes to potentially controversial nominations, I am requesting a second opinion review, preferably by someone with experience in judging April Fools' Day hooks. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:47, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
    •   Again I have to say NOTCENSORED, but its things like this that make me wonder if we really are. There is no policy based reason to override and furthermore according to WP:DYKAPRIL, it states that capitalisation can be disregarded for AFD. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  An unsalvageable attempt at humour. cygnis insignis 06:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

  • @Cygnis insignis: can I do a non april fools hook? --DannyS712 (talk) 06:57, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
    I would remove my objection if an interesting hook for the regular queue was proposed. Excuse the critique as suitable humour for the front page, victimless jokes are difficult to find and I don't think that your intention was anything but an attempt at fun. cygnis insignis 07:26, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

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