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DYK for Arrajan

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Category:Descendants of Cyrus the Great has been nominated for discussion

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DYK nomination of Al-Nadirah

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Category:Round cities has been nominated for discussion

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DYK for Al-Nadirah

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Speedy deletion nomination of Tomb of Artaxerxes III

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Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Bots Newsletter, August 2019

Greetings!

Here is the 7th issue of the Bots Newsletter, a lot happened since last year's newsletter! You can subscribe/unsubscribe from future newsletters by adding/removing your name from this list.

Highlights for this newsletter include:

ARBCOM

• Nothing of note happened. Just like we like it.

BAG

• Several (1 + 12 = 13) users have been retired/resigned from the BAG due to inactivity, per our new activity requirements (discussion).

BAG members are expected to be active on Wikipedia to have their finger on the pulse of the community. After two years without any bot-related activity (such as posting on bot-related pages, posting on a bot's talk page, or operating a bot), BAG members will be retired from BAG following a one-week notice. Retired members can re-apply for BAG membership as normal if they wish to rejoin the BAG.

• Two BAG members retired
  • Madman (talk · contribs) retired.
  • BU Rob13 (talk · contribs) vanished and retired.
• Three new BAG members have been voted in, welcome to the BAG!
  • Primefac (talk · contribs) joined on 2018-12-12 (RfBAG). Primefac operates PrimeBOT (talk · contribs) which does a plethora of tasks.
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We thank former members for their service and wish Madman a happy retirement. We note that Madman and BU Rob13 were not inactive and could resume their BAG positions if they so wished, should their retirements happens to be temporary.

BOTDICT

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• Editor-hostile wikitext – describes wikitext structuring that is editor hostile, even if it renders correctly
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BOTPOL

• Activity requirements: BAG members now have an activity requirement. The requirements are very light, one only needs to be involved in a bot-related area at some point within the last two years. For purpose of meeting these requirements, discussing a bot-related matter anywhere on Wikipedia counts, as does operating a bot (RFC).
• Copyvio flag: Bot accounts may be additionally marked by a bureaucrat upon BAG request as being in the "copyviobot" user group on Wikipedia. This flag allows using the API to add metadata to edits for use in the New pages feed (discussion). There is currently 1 bot using this functionality.
• Mass creation: The restriction on mass-creation (semi-automated or automated) was extended from articles, to all content-pages. There are subtleties, but content here broadly means whatever a reader could land on when browsing the mainspace in normal circumstances (e.g. Mainspace, Books, most Categories, Portals, ...). There is also a warning that WP:MEATBOT still applies in other areas (e.g. Redirects, Wikipedia namespace, Help, maintenance categories, ...) not explicitely covered by WP:MASSCREATION.

BOTREQs and BRFAs

As of writing, we have...

• 20 active BOTREQs, please help if you can!
• 14 open BRFAs and 1 BRFA in need of BAG attention (see live status).
• In 2018, 96 bot task were approved. An AWB search shows approximately 29 were withdrawn/expired, and 6 were denied.
• Since the start of 2019, 97 bot task were approved. Logs show 15 were withdrawn/expired, and 15 were denied.
• 10 inactive bots have been deflagged (see discussion). 5 other bots have been deflagged per operator requests or similar (see discussion).

New things

• All bot-related discussion pages now have a centralized and searchable archive box (see discussion). Discussions are searchable per noticeboard, or globally.
• {{Bot}} now supports |status=expired (see discussion). This led to the deletion of Category:Indefinitely blocked Wikipedia bots as useless (see discussion).
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• AAlertBot has received major code updates. In particular, WP:AALERTS will now report splits, mergers, and AFC submissions.
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Other discussions

These are some of the discussions that happened / are still happening since the last Bots Newsletter. Many are stale, but some are still active.

• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Adminbots requests page
• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Double-redirect tagging (2019)
• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 12#Long and Winding Road to Parsoid
• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Bot-like user scripts
• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#WP:URLREQ
• Wikipedia:Bots/Noticeboard/Archive 13#Wikipedia:Bots/Status
• Wikipedia talk:Bot Approvals Group#Minimum edits
• Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Minor update to WP:BOTISSUE
• Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Semi-automated Portal creation
• Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Clarification on "Bots operated by multiple users"
• Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Bots triggered by multiple users
• Wikipedia talk:Bots#How to use Special:ApiFeatureUsage

See also the latest discussions at the bot noticeboard.

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Cooperative

Could you please be a bit more cooperative? I get that you're doing this in good faith, but it's getting tiring to constantly have to clean up after you. If you have any questions or such, pls come to me. --HistoryofIran (talk) 17:05, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Well I've just checked my recent edits and arrived at this, which suggests the problem is rather your attitude towards my edits. It's not a big deal if one skips some formatting, as it is secondary. --Z 18:15, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Downgrading a GA article and adding those not so pretty infoboxes on several articles even when being reverted by other users sounds like a problem to me. Not a big problem, but deffo a problem. Anyways, I just wanted to notify you regarding this, not interested in delving too much into it. --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:26, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Phraates

Hello, you don't happen to have a source about the etymology of the name of Phraates? I need it to nominate Phraates V for GA. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I've just updated Farhad#Etymology --Z 16:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Babak (Sasanian officer)

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Middle Persian script for these figures?

Hello. You wouldn't happen to know what the Middle Persian script (like 𐭪𐭥𐭠𐭲‎ for Kavad) for the names of Balash, Jamasp and Adur-Anahid would be? --HistoryofIran (talk) 19:41, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, added. --Z 20:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Hiya. You don't happen to have a reliable source or two regarding the names Gotarzes and Orodes? --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:56, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

The name Gotarzes in Parthian is actually unattested as far as I know; but its diminutive form, Gōtarzak (gwtrzk) is found in Parthian ostraka found in Nisa[1]. I will check Orodes. --Z 09:13, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

What about Godarz? It's also used for the name Gotarzes. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:52, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Actually I was refering to the Parthian Godarz (also transliterated as Gotarz) as the unattested form. --Z 17:12, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

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DYK for Iraj Castle

On 29 November 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Iraj Castle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the massive Sasanian fortification of Iraj Castle lacks any structure in its interior? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Iraj Castle. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Iraj Castle), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Re: WP:BLP on Qasem Soleimani

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Seleucia-Ctesiphon

I have reverted your moves of titles with Seleucia-Ctesiphon to Seleucia–Ctesiphon. I think the former is an established spelling, like Austria-Hungary. See, e.g., this GEDSH article. Srnec (talk) 00:30, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Late Sasanian army

Hi Z, have you seen this before? [2] Maybe it will be of use to you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

, Hi, thanks for sharing it. --Z 10:11, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Np. Btw, did you happen to find out the Parthian script for the name Orodes and its etymology? And could you also add the Middle Persian script in Adur Gushnasp? Thanks in advance. --HistoryofIran (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I added. The etymology is discussed in some sources but apparently the theory is not certain. I will add if I happen to see something better in sources. --Z 16:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Hiya, you don't happen to know the spelling of Pacorus in Parthian? I've already its etymology [3], I'm just missing the Parthian script for it. Also, if you could find the Parhtian script and etymology of the name Vonones that would be great. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:31, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

I can't find Pakur in Midle Iranian. Descendants of the reconstructed Old Iranian baga-puthra "son of god" are attested in Manichaean Parthian βγpwhr βaγpuhr (see wikt:en:𐫁𐫃𐫛𐫇𐫍𐫡, still working on it) and Sogdian wikt:en:βγpwr βaγpūr. --Z 15:15, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Interestingly, Pacorus II's name is actually attested in Parthian (on the famous bronze statue of Bahram/Heracles in Seleucia). I added it to the article. The etymology is apparently uncertain. See wikt:en:𐭐𐭊𐭅𐭓 created with the help of a

Wiktionary colleague for more. --Z 12:39, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

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Would you be able to help translate this source into English?

Hi ZxxZxxZ,

I believe this source (link:[[4]]) could be useful, but I can't really make use of it because I don't speak Persian. You seemed to be the most active recently of Persian-English translators [here] so I decided to reach out to you first: would you be able/willing to help translate it into English for me? I apologize if this is too much to ask.

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 13:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi, the paper itself too quite long to be translated completely. Is it any particular information you are trying to find in it? I am familiar with etymological studies of Iranian languages myself. --Z 13:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

The parts that piqued my interest in particular were the part on the 5th page about "*Niөāvanta", the one on the 6th page about "Varkāna", on the 7th page about "*āp-šēnag" and "*āp-*xšaina" (etc), on the 9th page on "dāδmainya" and "damēnag" (etc), on the 11th page about "*margānag" (etc), and finally on the 14th page where a number of place name elements are listed in Arabic-Persian and also Roman scripts. Any info on what the surrounding sections are saying would be greatly appreciated.

Additionally, do you know of any other good sources on Iranian toponymy I could make use of? English Wikipedia is kind of lacking on that subject and I would like to expand it as much as I can.

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 19:24, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

According to the paper, dāδmainya means "blowable (for toads)", ‫‪damēnag‬‬ means "hand fan", related to Middle Iranian dam- "to breath". For the rest, see wikt:مریانج, wikt:آبشینه, wikt:ورکانه, wikt:نهاوند that I just created. You can find good information and references in English Wiktionary entries, I am active there myself together with several other users who work on Persian entries. --Z 11:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to try to add this information to the corresponding articles here on Wikipedia; feel free to correct them if I misinterpret what you've written.

Best,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

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Mongol invasions of Nizaris

Hello! I noticed you made a great contribution for that page! I just translated it in another language but unfortunately I’m not able to interlink “Mongol campaign against Nizaris” with the Italian version. I don’t know which is the reason. Can you help me? Do you know how to solve this problem? X3SNW8 (talk) 19:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for translating it. It was easy to fix, I added the title to d:Q92987578 in Wikidata and the interwikis have appeared now. Z 19:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

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Nizari–Seljuk conflicts

Hi! My recommendation for this would be to get some feedback by other editors as well, either at GOCE or at Peer Review, especially by editors who are unfamiliar with the specific topic and can point you to missing context. As an aside, I would strongly recommend discarding all the footnotes with Arabic/Farsi names. This is useless in an English encyclopedia, and only serves to confuse readers (and probably scare them off as well). Anything that is linked to an existing article doesn't need the original name either way, since that is mentioned there (or should be). Constantine ✍ 16:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the tips! Regarding the names, yes I want to ultimately move them to other (new) pages (I think all of them). The reason I added them in the first place was I spotted several mistakes in the spelling (transliterations) of the names in my secondary sources after checking the primary sources. --Z 09:16, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you for your efforts to create and improve Iran's historical articles! Az shoma sepas gozaram :) Editor7798 (talk) 21:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! --Z 09:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

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Yazdegerd

Hi Z, you don't happen to have any sources regarding the name of Yazdegerd? For some reason, Shahbazi says that the Pahlavi version of his name was 'Yazdekert' [5], yet all Middle Persian texts I've seen call him 'Yazdgird'. --HistoryofIran (talk) 05:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, just like other Sasanian names, this word too may be transcribed in various ways. Note that the word "Pahlavi" (especially in older literature when it wasn't known that Parthian and Middle Persian are distinct languages) is a collective term referring to what is now known as Parthian and Middle Persian.

The accurate transcription of the suffix used by the Middle Persian of that period is uncertain (see the corresponding page in Wiktionary), the only certain fact is that it had been -gerd (Middle Persian e is also loosely transliterated as i, the exact pronunciation is uncertain) in Manichaean Middle Persian and -kert in (earlier forms of) Parthian, because it is -kert in Armenian. But the Middle Persian form (except early/proto-Middle Persian forms) can be reconstructed as *-gerd: note the Ancient Greek (Isdigérdēs), Latin (Isdegerdes), and Georgian (iezdigerd) forms in wikt:Yazdegerd.

In short, Shahbazi is mentioning a form that reflects the pronunciation in what is now known as (early) Parthian and (early) Middle Persian, note the Old Armenian Yazkert in wikt:Yazdegerd. --Z 13:17, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I see, that was really enlightening. Thanks! --HistoryofIran (talk) 15:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

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can you check my draft please

Hey would you be willing to create a page about the word "dukht"? there were many "-dukhts" throughout history and as we both know it survives in modern Persian "dokht" Unfortunately, I was unable to find expansive sources regarding the word myself. - LouisAragon (talk) 02:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, sure, I would create if I find good sources. --Z 14:35, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Hey there I am a new member of Wikipedia and I really need this page translated in English but Wikipedia doesn't let new members to translate so can you please translate this page for me actually I translated it in English but I couldn't publish it, so I saved it as a public draft

This is the link of the Wikipedia page in Persian:https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%87_%D9%86%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%D9%87_%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA%DB%8C 

This is the link of my public draft:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Governmental_leading_high_school If you can help me It means a lot to me thank you for taking your time to read this

سلام ، من عضو جدید ویکی پدیا هستم و واقعاً به این صفحه ترجمه شده به زبان انگلیسی احتیاج دارم اما ویکی پدیا به اعضای جدید اجازه ترجمه نمی دهد ، بنابراین لطفاً این صفحه را برای من ترجمه کنید ، در واقع من آن را به انگلیسی ترجمه کردم اما نمی توانم آن را منتشر کنم ، بنابراین من آن را به عنوان پیش نویس عمومی ذخیره کردم این پیوند صفحه ویکی پدیا به زبان فارسی است:https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%AF%D8%B1%D8%B3%D9%87_%D9%86%D9%85%D9%88%D9%86%D9%87_%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA%DB%8C این پیوند پیش نویس عمومی من است:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Governmental_leading_high_school اگر می توانید به من کمک کنید برای من معنی زیادی دارد متشکرم که وقت خود را برای خواندن این مقاله اختصاص دادید — Preceding unsigned comment added by ROSE1820 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

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افزودن ترجمه به ویکیپدیا

سلام. روزتون بخیر. ببخشید من به تازگی علاقه‌مند به ویرایش ویکی‌‌پدیا شدم. محتواهای اولم رو هم وارد دانشنامه کردم. الان می‌خواستم توی بخش ترجمه هم فعالیت کنم و یکی از مقاله‌های ویکیپدیا رو وقت خیلی زیادی گذاشتم و ترجمه کردم، اما الان متوجه شدم که به خاطر سابقه‌ی کم پیجم نمی‌تونم مطلب رو وارد ترجمه‌ی انگلیسی محتوا کنم. ویکیپدیا شما رو به عنوان مترجم معتبر معرفی کرد. امکانش هست که شما بهم کمک کنید که این ترجمه وارد دانشنامه بشه؟--رضا مظاهری (talk) 12:11, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

سلام وقت بخیر. این سایتی که الان هستید ویکیپدیای انگلیسی هست و در این سایت هیچ محتوای فارسی‌ای نمی‌تونید قرار دهید. شما برید سایت ویکیپدیای فارسی و در اونجا مطالبتون رو وارد کنید. Z 11:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

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Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Bots Newsletter, December 2021

BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

• Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Y 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (N2 3 denied, ? 3 withdrawn, and 2 expired).

September 2019

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!

• Y Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · N2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · ? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4
• TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Wikipedia", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot [...] but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
• Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request.

October 2019

• Y OAbot 3, DannyS712 bot 47, Pathbot 2, PearBOT 2, DannyS712 bot 59, DannyS712 bot 62, HasteurBot 14, PearBOT 4, WOSlinkerBot 4, MilHistBot 5
• Curb Safe Charmer adopts reFill: TAnthony pointed out that reFill 2's bug reports were going unanswered; creator Zhaofeng Li had retired from Wikipedia, and a maintainer was needed. As of June 2021, Curb Safe Charmer had taken up the mantle, saying: "Not that I have all the skills needed but better me than nobody! 'Maintainer' might be too strong a term though. Volunteers welcome!"
  

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

• Y BHGbot 4, YiFeiBot 2, DannyS712 bot III 64 · ? PearBOT
• Old bots do new tricks: DannyS712 bot III 64 prowled redirects, YiFeiBot 2 archived GoCE requests, and BHGbot 4 removed links to portals deleted at MfD (until its authorization was revoked in January at operator BrownHairedGirl's request).

December 2019

• Y DemonDays64 Bot, DannyS712 bot III 66, Bot1058 6, Monkbot 15, MilHistBot 6, PearBOT 5, DannyS712 bot IV 65 · N2 SportsStatsBot · Xinbenlv bot, SteveBot 8
• Redirects to be autopatrolled: A RfC took place at WP:NPP, closing with unanimous consensus that new redirects should be automatically marked as patrolled by bot. DannyS712 wasted no time, and submitted DannyS712 bot III 66 the next day; it passed two days after that.
• 200,000 bios get short descs: Along a similar vein, Bot1058 6 was approved to remove disambiguation pages from Category:Monitored short pages and a new bot (DemonDays64 Bot) changed lots of http links to https using JavaScript Wiki Browser. One particularly neat task, PearBOT 5, automatically generated short descriptions for more than 200,000 biographies.

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

• What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
• What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
• Will reFill ever get fixed?
• What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway?
• Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

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Bots Newsletter, January 2022

Bots Newsletter, January 2022

BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the ninth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Vicious bot-on-bot edit warring... superseded tasks... policy proposals... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

After a long hiatus between August 2019 and December 2021, there's quite a bit of ground to cover. Due to the vastness, I decided in December to split the coverage up into a few installments that covered six months each. Some people thought this was a good idea, since covering an entire year in a single issue would make it unmanageably large. Others thought this was stupid, since they were getting talk page messages about crap from almost three years ago. Ultimately, the question of whether each issue covers six months or a year is only relevant for a couple more of them, and then the problem will be behind us forever.

Of course, you can also look on the bright side – we are making progress, and this issue will only be about crap from almost two years ago. Today we will pick up where we left off in December, and go through the first half of 2020.

Overall
In the first half of 2020, there were 71 BRFAs. Of these, Y 59 were approved, and 12 were unsuccessful (with N2 8 denied, ? 2 withdrawn, and 2 expired).

January 2020

Yeah, you're not gonna be able to get away with this anymore.

• Y ST47Bot, Seppi333Bot, Qbugbot 4 · N2 PkbwcgsBot 25, PkbwcgsBot 26
• A new Pywikibot release dropped support for Python 3.4, and it was expected that support for Python 2.7 would be removed in coming updates. Toolforge itself planned to drop Python 2 support in 2022.
• Two new bots dropped in January 2020: ST47Bot, the successor to STBot, and Seppi333Bot, whose task was to perform a weekly update of four "massive" wikitables for WikiProject Molecular Biology.
• Cydebot, an adminbot operated by Cyde since 2006, was blocked after going berserk on categories that hadn't yet been CfD'd.

February 2020

Speaking of WikiProject Molecular Biology, Listeria went wild in February

• Y AnomieBOT 78, Cewbot 2, DannyS712 bot 67, DannyS712 bot III 63, PearBOT 6, DemonDays64 Bot 2 · N2 PearBOT
• On February 1, some concerns were raised about ListeriaBot performing "nonsense" edits. Semi-active operator Magnus Manske (who originally coded the Phase II software|precursor of MediaWiki) was pinged. Meanwhile, the bot was temporarily blocked for several hours until the issue was diagnosed and resolved.
• On February 18, ST47Bot got into a tussle with Amalthea (bot), and had to be partially-blocked from Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cases/Overview.

March 2020

• Y MajavahBot, SDZeroBot, TheSandBot 6, TheSandBot 7, Bitbotje, FACBot 6, TheSandBot 8, Qbugbot 5, Cewbot 3, SDZeroBot 2, PrimeBOT 31, WikiCleanerBot 12 · AntiCompositeBot
• In March, a long discussion was started at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy by Skdb about the troubling trend of bots "expiring" without explanation after their owners became inactive. This can happen for a variety of reasons -- API changes break code, hosting providers' software updates break code, hosting accounts lapse, software changes make bots' edits unnecessary, and policy changes make bots' edits unwanted. The most promising solution seemed to be Toolforge hosting (although it has some problems of its own, like the occasional necessity of refactoring code).
• Some of the twelve bot tasks approved this month were TheSandBot 6 (removing blocked users from Category:Wikipedia usernames with possible policy issues), and TheSandBot 7 (removing unblocked users from Category:Wikipedians who are indefinitely blocked for promotional user names). SDZeroBot 2 was approved to refine geographic stub tags. New bots approved this month were MajavahBot (to patrol WP:EFFPR), SDZeroBot (to merge stub tags), and Bitbotje (fixing DISPLAYTITLE modifications, DEFAULTSORT errors and broken behavior switches in draftspace).

April 2020

Listeria being examined

• Y TheSandBot 9, BHGbot 5, DannyS712 bot 69, SDZeroBot 3, ST47ProxyBot, WugBot 4, SDZeroBot 4, DatBot 10, WikiCleanerBot 11, WikiCleanerBot 13, WikiCleanerBot 14, AntiCompositeBot 2, Cewbot 4 · N2 DaedanBot 1 · Creffbot
• A discussion on the bot noticeboard, "Re-examination of ListeriaBot", was started by Barkeep49, who pointed out repeated operation outside the scope of its BRFA (i.e. editing pages in mainspace, and adding non-free images to others). Some said it was doing good work, and others said it was operating beyond its remit. It was blocked on April 10; the next day it was unblocked, reblocked from article space, reblocked "for specified non-editing actions", unblocked, and indeffed. The next week, several safeguards were implemented in its code by Magnus; the bot was allowed to roam free once more on April 18.
• ST47ProxyBot joined the stable in April, after a BRFA started in December was finally completed. As an adminbot, it was authorized to block IP addresses belonging to open proxies, public VPN services, and web hosts. New tasks approved for existing bots included BHGbot 5 (diffusing categories), TheSandBot 9 (taking over some tasks from the inactive RonBot), and WugBot 4 (updating data at {{Interactive COVID-19 maps}}). Also, DatBot 10 was approved to scale down non-free SVGs — I didn't even know that was a thing.
• A discussion at Wikipedia talk:Bot policy was started by Thryduulf about whether WP:BOTCOMM should explicitly specify that bot operators must be responsive to concerns raised on English Wikipedia specifically (as opposed to Phabricator, SourceForge, Toolforge, et cetera). Eventually, the policy was amended to its current form:

Issues and enquiries are typically expected to be handled on the English Wikipedia. Pages reachable via unified login, like a talk page at Commons or at Italian Wikipedia could also be acceptable [...] External sites like Phabricator or GitHub (which require separate registration or do not allow for IP comments) and email (which can compromise anonymity) can supplement on-wiki communication, but do not replace it.

May 2020

We heard you like bots, so we made a bot that reports the status of your bots, so now you can use bots while you use bots

• Y MajavahBot 3, DannyS712 bot 70, CitationCleanerBot 5, Dreamy Jazz Bot 4, QEDKbot, William Avery Bot 2, DannyS712 bot 68, PrimeBOT 32, TheSandBot 10, Bot1058 7, BHGbot 6, EaglesBot 2, Cewbot 5, WikiCleanerBot 17 · N2 MDanielsBot, PhuzBot 3, Gedimon · ? PearBOT 7
• MajavahBot 3, an impressively meta bot task, was approved this month for maintaining a list of bots running on the English Wikipedia. The page, located at User:MajavahBot/Bot status report, is updated every 24 hours; it contains a list of all accounts with the bot flag, as well as their operator, edit count, last activity date, last edit date, last logged action date, user groups and block status.
• Other approvals for this month were William Avery Bot 2 (processing redirects in {{R from scientific name}}), DannyS712 bot 68 (allowing users to schedule bot reminders for themselves), TheSandBot 10 (removing blocked/locked users from Category:User talk pages with conflict of interest notices), Bot1058 7 (updating Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests/Permalink), Dreamy Jazz Bot 4 (adding {{WikiProject Biography|living=no}} to talk pages where their associated article is in a year of death category), and QEDKbot (deleting and nominating empty categories).
• General syntax fixing tasks were approved for DannyS712 bot 70, CitationCleanerBot 5, PrimeBOT 32, BHGbot 6, Cewbot 5, and EaglesBot 2, as well as WikiCleanerBot 15, 16, and 17.
• Seven bots who fell below activity requirements (with neither the bots nor their operators having any edits or logged actions in two years) had their bot flags removed. They were NekoBot, Robert SkyBot, DASHBotAV, VoxelBot, JackieBot, ReferenceBot, and CensusBot.
• On May 12, EmausBot was blocked.

June 2020

A partial block averted at the eleventh hour for the robot that makes Legos

• Y QEDKbot 2, AnomieBOT 79, WOSlinkerBot 6, Yapperbot 2, Yapperbot, AnomieBOT 80, Dreamy Jazz Bot 5, WikiCleanerBot 18, HasteurBot 15, MusikBot II 4, NoSandboxesHere · N2 RedWarn · ? Seppi333Bot 2
• In July 2017, Headbomb made a proposal that a section of the Wikipedia:Dashboard be devoted to bots and technical issues. In November 2019, Lua code was written superseding Legobot's tasks on that page, and operator Legoktm was asked to stop them so that the new code could be deployed. After no response to pings, a partial-block of Legobot for the dashboard was proposed. Some months later, on June 16, Headbomb said: "A full block serves nothing. A partial block solves all current issues [...] Just fucking do it. It's been 3 years now." The next day, however, Legoktm disabled the task, and the dashboard was successfully refactored.
• On June 7, RexxS blocked Citation bot for disruptive editing, saying it was "still removing links after request to stop". A couple weeks later, a discussion on the bots noticeboard was opened, saying "it is a widely-used and useful bot, but it has one of the longest block logs for any recently-operating bot on Wikipedia". While its last BRFA approval was in 2011, its code and functionality had changed dramatically since then, and AntiCompositeNumber requested that BAG require a new BRFA. Maintainer AManWithNoPlan responded that most blocks were from years ago (when it lacked a proper test suite), and problems since then had mostly been one-off errors (like a June 2019 incident in which a LTA had "weaponized" the bot to harass editors).
• David Tornheim opened a discussion about whether bots based on closed-source code should be permitted, and proposed that they not. He cited a recent case in which a maintainer had said "I can only suppose that the code that is available on GitHub is not the actual code that was running on [the bot]". Some disagreed: Naypta said that "I like free software as much as the next person, and I strongly believe that bot operators should make their bot code public, but I don't think it should be that they must do so".
• Two new bots had their first BRFAs approved: Yapperbot, to replace Legobot for handling the Feedback Request Service, and NoSandboxesHere, to remove {{user sandbox}} from articles in draftspace using Category:Non-userspace pages using User sandbox.

Conclusion

• What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

• Will Citation bot ever be set free to roam the project?
• What's the deal with all those book links that InternetArchiveBot is adding to articles?
• Should we keep using Gerrit for MediaWiki?
• What if we had a day for bots to make cosmetic edits?

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the February 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 23:22, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Russian Orbital Segment

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Nomination for deletion of Template:File specifications caption

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Your GA nomination of Siege of Petra (550–551)

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Your GA nomination of Siege of Petra (550–551)

The article Siege of Petra (550–551) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Siege of Petra (550–551) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Iazyges -- Iazyges (talk) 13:02, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the assistance. --Z 14:11, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Tahmasp

Hi Z, long time no see - hope you're doing well. You don't happen to have a source(s) regarding the name Tahmasp/Tahmasb and its etymology? Bests. HistoryofIran (talk) 01:43, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Hi man, sorry for the late reply. I've added what I found in wikt:en:طهماسب. My sources are not high-quality though. I'll ask Vahagn to take a look in his sources, too. --Z 08:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

No worries, thank you very much! --HistoryofIran (talk) 21:24, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@HistoryofIran: Vahagn has thoroughly updated the Wiktionary entry. Z 04:59, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

That's awesome to hear. Thanks to you guys, I was finally able to create a name section in Tahmasp I [6]. Btw, there are other names which I feel like we badly need a detailed entry on, if that could be of any interest; Manuchihr/Manuchehr, Farrukhzad/Farrokhzad, Fariburz/Fariborz, and Shahriyar/Shahryar. Bests. --HistoryofIran (talk) 09:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Siege of Petra (550–551)

On 18 August 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Siege of Petra (550–551), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at the end of the siege of Petra in 551 AD, the Romans discovered that there was yet another pipe beneath the ones they destroyed that was supplying water to the besieged garrison all along? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Siege of Petra (550–551). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Siege of Petra (550–551)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

		Hook update
		Your hook reached 16,504 views (687.7 per hour), making it one of the most viewed hooks of August 2022 – nice work!

theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 20:23, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

That's exciting! --Z 08:07, 26 August 2022 (UTC)

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Translation request

Hello ZxxZxxZ, would you be able to translate a short article from Persian to English for me? It is on Mehrabad Airport and is at the bottom right corner of this PDF from the newspaper Iran. I had difficulty understanding the Google Translate version. Please feel free to skip the list of attendees ("the government board, parliamentarians, political representatives...") and the list of major components of the new building ("1- The main hall includes the office of domestic and foreign airlines..."). Sunnya343 (talk) 03:48, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, here it is:

"In Iran's new geopolitical conditions, Tehran needed to have three new airports.

The geopolitical conditions of Iran made Reza Shah's government to build three new airports in the capital city. Doshan Tappeh (Qajar hunting resort), Qaleh Morghi and Mehrabad District (the area that used to be the mahr of Ismat al-Doulah, daughter of Nasser al-Din Shah) were chosen to build the airport. Shortly after the construction of the airports at Doshan Tappeh and Qaleh Morghi, Mehrabad Airport was completed and the Pilot School was established and the Mehrabad Airport eventually became an international airport:

[...]

The total cost of the esatblishment of the Mehrabad Airport from 1326 (Solar Hijri) to this date amounted to 315 million Iranian rials, with 55 million Iranian rial paid by the Ministry of Finance and the remaining 260 million Iranian rial by the Plan and Budget Organization. The area of all the floors of the main building combined is 955.26 square meters and the total area of all buildings combined is 650.31 square meters [...] Kushesh Newspaper, Sunday, 19th Mordad 1337 [Solar Hijri]"

--Z 09:44, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the translation! I appreciate how you included links to articles. Sorry to bother again, I just wanted to confirm that the article also says that Reza Shah cut the ribbon to inaugurate the new terminal on Tuesday, 14th Mordad? Sunnya343 (talk) 02:39, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem, the PDF source does describe such inauguration event, but it does not specify its date. There is only one date in the source, the date of the cited report, which I mentioned at the end of my comment. Z 06:44, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

OK, thank you again! Sunnya343 (talk) 14:23, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

No problem, the PDF source does describe such inauguration event, but it does not specify its date. There is only one date in the source, the date of the cited report, which I mentioned at the end of my comment. Z 06:43, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Unicode chart translation request

Hello. I maintain multilingual Wikimedia charts showing roadmaps to the various planes of the Unicode Standard.
I'm hoping you will provide Persian translations for me. (I noticed your user name on the Wikipedia:Translators available list.)
The specifics are at User:Drmccreedy/roadmap_multilingual.
Currently the Persian Unicode article uses the English charts.
Thank you for any help you can offer. DRMcCreedy (talk) 03:38, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi DRMcCreedy, I translated it here. Please note that the destination language is written in a right-to-left script, so it should look like this. Please notify me for a double-check after the generation of the photo. Thank you, Z 10:54, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. I had to do some tweaks for LTR but I think it's good now. The easiest way for you to review the updated charts is by looking at User:Drmccreedy/roadmap_test_page#Persian_(fa). After you've reviewed the new charts I'll update the Persian page to use them. Also, I forgot to ask for a translation for the TIP file description: "A graphical representation of Unicode's Tertiary Ideographic Plane (TIP)." It doesn't affect the charts, just the file summary, but it's helpful. Thank you. DRMcCreedy (talk) 01:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, I reviewed the images, it's all good. Here is the translation for the file description:

English	Persian (fa)
A graphical representation of Unicode's Tertiary Ideographic Plane (TIP).	نمایشی از صفحه اندیشه‌نگاری‌های ثالثه (TIP) یونی‌کد

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I've updated https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87_(%DB%8C%D9%88%D9%86%DB%8C%E2%80%8C%DA%A9%D8%AF) to use the new charts. Thanks again. DRMcCreedy (talk) 22:34, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Translation

Hi ZxxZxxZ, I hope you don't mind my asking for help with another article in Persian. I was wondering if you could translate the four sentences in this article that begin with the following (I tried pasting the entire sentences here but the formatting wasn't right):

1. در آن روزگار نیروی هوایی and the following sentence
2. در سال 1326
3. در سال 1351

Thank you for your time, Sunnya343 (talk) 01:59, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi again,

در آن روزگار نیروی هوایی ایران در کنار آموزشگاه های فنی خلبانی و دانشکده‌های دیده‌بانی تصمیم گرفته بود یک مدرسه نیز برای آموزش خلبانی در اراضی مهرآباد با هدف تعلیم عده بیشتری خلبان و نیز برطرف ساختن نیاز روزافزون نیروی هوایی به وجود آورد. سه نفر با درجه نایب سومی، معلم خلبانان بلژیکی و نیز سه خلبان زبده به نام‌های بوشن، فرمول و شوارتز بعد از استخدام در نیروی هوایی ایران از تاریخ 15 اسفند 1314 کار خود را رسماً در آموزشگاه خلبانی مهرآباد آغاز کردند و23 فروردین 1316 شش خلبان از دوره یکم هنر آموزگاری خلبانی فارغ‌التحصیل شدند. عمده هواپیماهایی که در این آموزشگاه برای خلبانان نیروی هوایی ایران به کار می‌رفت تایگرموس بود که خلبانان آموزش‌های پایه خلبانی را با این هواپیما یاد می‌گرفتند.

At that time, the Iranian Air Force decided to establish a new school (in addition to the pilot technical schools and observation departments) near Mehrabad area, with the aim of training more pilots and satisfying the ever-increasing need of the Air Force. Three people with the rank of third lieutenant, a Belgian pilot teacher, as well as three skilled pilots named Buschen, Formul and Schwarz, after being employed in the Iranian Air Force on 15th Esfand 1314 [Solar Hijri], officially started their work at the Mehrabad Pilot Training School. On 23rd Farvardin 1316 [Solar Hijri], six pilots were graduated in the first program of Pilot Training Art. The main aircraft used in this school for training the pilots of the Iranian Air Force was the Tiger Moth, used for teaching basic pilot training.

To be continued--Z 12:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

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Pahlavi script

Hi, could you provide original Pahlavi script in Parvīz? Thanks a lot.-- Carnby (talk) 20:30, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi Carnby, as far as I know the word is attested only in Book Pahlavi, which has been embedded in Unicode only recently and I'm not familiar with the relevant characters. Z 10:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Persian source searches

Hi ZxxZxxZ! You've volunteered at Wikipedia:Translators available a bit ago. I'm wondering if you'd be willing to do a search for Sajad Mehrabi (سجاد محرابیI think) and Shahameh Dizaei in Persian to see if they'd meet WP:GNG. Both currently does not have any reliable sources providing significant coverage and I'm starting to think it might from paid/COI editing. Thanks in advance! Justiyaya 13:38, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

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Persian miniature enigma

Court scene.

Hi ZzzZzzZ! Can I ask for your help? I cannot find a reference for this image. It is claimed as "Fatimid" (but this is extremely unlikely in my opinion, the style is more like 14th century Ilkhanid or Jalayarid) and currently appears in the Arabic miniature article. Can you confirm that the language of the text in the miniature is Persian, rather than Arabic? I would personally bet for a version of the Great Mongol Shahnameh. Any thoughts? Any RS reference for this image? पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 09:57, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi पाटलिपुत्र, yes, the language is Persian, an excerpt from Abu'l-Ma'ali Nasrallah's Kalila wa Dimna, final part of the chapter باب الملک و البراهمة. I can not comment on the artistic style, though. I can only tell you that the Persian words consistently use the so-called dotted dhal (dhal-i mu'jama) which was common in earlier forms of New Persian. --Z 11:20, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very much ZzzZzzZ, this is very informative! So I guess we can safely say this a Persian-language illustrated manuscript, and an extract from the last Chapter of the Kalila wa Dimna' last chapter "The King's son and his companions" (باب الملک و البراهمة)... Would you have the ability to translate the sentences on the page, so that I can track the precise location in the King's chapter (p.354-366)? As for the date, the first known Persian-language illustrated manuscript is the Varka and Golshah, attributable to Konya in Central Anatolia c.1250. All other Persian language illustrated manuscript start with the Mongol period (around 1280 for the earliest, described in the article "Persian miniature")... So this one necessarily dates to circa 1300 or after. Is this date coherent in your opinion with the usage of the dotted dhal? Based on all this, I would tend to favour Ilkhanid or Jalayarid, or rather unlikely northern Indian Delhi Sultanate... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 12:15, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

References

Oh, I did not mean the last chapter, rather the chapter The King and the Brahmans, the very last sentences. I've added the original Persian to the image's page. We know that the dotted dhal was obsolete in certain variants of Persian (e.g. that of Ghazni) after a certain period. For further analysis of the language and a more precise dating, I'd like to ask User:Behaafarid and User:Curryfranke to comment, hopefully they are still active. --Z 13:39, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time trying to find an English translation of "The King and the Brahmans".... is it the same chapter as "The story of the wise Bilar", where Brahmans also do appear?... Would you have a link? I also tried a Google translation of your Persian text on the Commons page, but it's probably quite a mess... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 16:11, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi everyone, there is an old German article on the question when the dotted dhal (= 3rd person singular in -dh) became -d. Fritz Meier's aussprachefragen des älteren neupersisch (sic; “pronunciation problems of older new persian”) of 1981 is a very good source for the sound changes of early New Persian. But it's proprietary. I don't have online access at the moment and need to go to the university library to read it. Please have some patience. --Curryfranke (talk) 16:14, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

That would be a great help. In the meanhile, I created a short article on the subject, Dotted dhal. --Z 18:08, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion. Yes, it has this character called Bilar in it as well as Brahmans. In the Persian version it is two chapters prior to the last one that you've just mentioned: "The King's son and his companions". Z 17:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

@ZxxZxxZ: Great! So here is the last page of the "The King and the Brahmans" aka "The story of the wise Bilar" story: p.338, p.338. Would it be possible for you to tell me which lines exactly seem to correspond to the text in the manuscript? Thank you! पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 19:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Those ar apparently translations from the Arabic version. As you can appreciate the Persian and Arabic variants are different, I don't know if the Persian version has actually been translated into English or not. It roughly corresponds to the page 338 that you linked. Z 15:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

@ZxxZxxZ: Thank you! Sorry to bother you, but would you have an approximate translation of the three lines of text on the manuscript (I had tried Google Translate, but it seems quite unsatisfactory...). It also seems to me that the note in the upper left corner looks like a date, but I might be wrong... पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 16:16, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Sure, I've just added one. Z 16:18, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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Shams al-Din Juvayni enigma

Supplément persan 1113, fol. 202r Link to full manuscript

Hello ZxxZxxZ. Can I ask you for another piece of Persian expertise? This image is supposed to be a depicition of Shams al-Din Juvayni with the Mongol ruler Tekuder (used in the Shams al-Din Juvayni article). Would you be able to confirm if the guest is indeed Shams al-Din Juvayni? Best regards पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 17:30, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Hi, the page is indeed about the reign of Tekuder but there is no information regarding the illustration depicting those men. --Z 19:00, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 20:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, ZxxZxxZ. Thank you for your work on Dotted dhal. Moriwen, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

I wonder if it wouldn't make most sense to merge this into the main Ḏāl article, at least for the time being. Thoughts? Are you expecting to expand it substantially in the nearish future?

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— Moriwen (talk) 15:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Dear User:Moriwen, yes, it is going to be expanded in the near future. Out colleague (see #Persian miniature enigma above) is currently trying to access the relevant literature. --Z Z 16:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

2024 Iranian strikes in Israel

Hey, you got rid of my edit, possibly by accident, ill be adding it back as it is a reaction to the events and its a country next to Israel, if you have any other issues, feel free to message me before removing. ShovelandSpade (talk) 10:19, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Sorry for the mistake. Z 11:27, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

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