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A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Minor barnstar
For the necessary but (from experience) highly repetitive work of tagging alternative scientific name redirects, adding missing redirects, working on making articles compliant with MOS:LIFE and MOS:LEAD#Organisms and linking lepidopterists from the infoboxes of species they described, and the many, many other minor issues plaguing fauna/flora articles (and especially insect articles...) that have accumulated about half a decade or more of backlog.

(Do you also catch yourself starting a line with "{{R from alternative" every now and then before catching yourself and remember that, wait, you're doing something else for once? Keeps happening to me...XD) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Well thank you! I've enjoyed acquainting myself with the entomologists: perhaps most of all the Bahá'í bigamist and amateur tunneller Harrison Gray Dyar, Jr. My main problem is going for the Edit button when I'm not reading a WP text. William Avery (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
You're welcome! Oh yes, that's an issue for me too at times. I would enjoy acquainting myself with the entomologists, except seeing those articles reminds me of what a friggin' mess some of those pages are, if they've even got a page at all. (Dyar's in pretty good shape, though.  ) Makes me want to straighten them out, sure, but I've got to prioritize some way. Too much stuff to be done across too many articles. Suppose that'd be an issue you're familiar with as well, though. Hm, now that we're talking anyway, d'you happen to know any lepidopterists (or entomologists that did at least some work on Lepidoptera) with diacritics in their names that aren't on this list? That's one of my personal pet-peeves, seeing "Hubner"s, "Guenee"s, "Oberthur"s, and "Schiffermuller"s strewn about the pages (among goodness knows how many other names) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 19:07, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Perhaps Karl Grünberg (who I see is rather dubiously on the List of Social Democratic Party of Germany members), Félix Édouard Guérin-Méneville (double word score!), Lionel de Nicéville and William Beutenmüller. I'm afraid I usually ignore the lack of diacritics. There are also some Russians whose names are Romanised in various ways. William Avery (talk) 19:34, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I've copied those to my shortened-version notepad document (references and links are more of use to folks who may want to see what I'm basing my corrections on/that I'm not randomly applying diacritics to non-English-looking names/etc., than to myself. The wiki-links to relevant articles are of some use, but I've got most of those bookmarked anyway, so just typing the name in my urlbar is enough to find 'm) and I'll see about adding them to the full list sometime soon. In regards to Russians (and, for that matter, entomologists of other nationalities where the name isn't originally in the Latin alphabet), yeah, I'd noticed that as well. That's a potentially more iffy issue than correcting a Hubner/Huebner to Hübner, though, so unless I have a couple of major sources all supporting one particular form on hand, I tend to leave those be for the moment. You're certainly not the only one doing that, as the hundreds (or sometimes, thousands) of times I've fixed the same name can attest to. Oh well, suspect that my own frustration with them is mostly that I know the difference in sound between, say, a German u or ü, so Hubner for Hübner is just as blatant a misspelling to me as 'opple' for 'apple' would be to others. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:18, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Yeah. The Russians can get in a queue behind the Western Europeans. William Avery (talk) 20:28, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Mwa, it's mostly a matter of "I know this needs fixing and I know *how*; I know that *needs to be fixed*, but I don't know how. Let's not muck up that by implementing fixes that may be as wrong or worse than what's currently there" combined with a case of "even if I know how to fix it, if I can't bring references/proof to the table if/when asked, I'd probably best refrain from making mass-changes". There's a bunch of Western Europeans I'm not touching with a ten-foot-pole until I can do some in-depth research as well, usually when it's a name where both pronunciations and thus both the form without and the form with exist, and I have no way of telling which group this particular one belongs to. Some cases of not-Western-Europeans on the list, too (Díaz, Alphéraky—a Russian, but one where I've been able to find the needed references—Koçak, Povolný, Tengström), in the cases where I've been able to ferret out the sources I might need. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 21:19, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Talk:Edward LeongEdit

What about the politician here? I invite you to ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 21:38, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Template:Taxonomy/DrilliidaeEdit

Since you changed this template, everything seems to go wrong when creating new templates within the genus Fusiturricula. Just look at Template:Taxonomy/Fusiturricula and you'll see what I mean. New taxoboxes in Fusiturricula are getting messed up, e.g. Fusiturricula taurina in contrast with e.g. Fusiturricula acra. I suppose the change you made in the template (family --> familia) caused all this, unless there is another reason. Anyway I've tried to fix this, but didn't succeed. Can you look into this ? JoJan (talk) 17:15, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

I can't see anything wrong on those pages now, but I have seen funny stuff in the past, where a template says it can't find a parent after a change is made. Strangely, if a page has an error and you can't see why, it sometimes helps to edit and preview without saving changes. I guess it's something to do with cacheing. William Avery (talk) 17:35, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Europe 10,000 Challenge inviteEdit

Hi. The Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland Wikipedia:The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like Germany, Italy, the Benelux countries, Iberian Peninsula, Romania, Slovenia etc, much like Wikipedia:The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. If you would like to see masses of articles being improved for Europe and your specialist country like Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon, sign up today and once the challenge starts a contest can be organized. This is a way we can target every country of Europe, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant and also sign under any country sub challenge on the page that you might contribute to! Thank you. --MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:08, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!Edit

 Hello, William Avery. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

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One specific epithet, two speciesEdit

You suggested merging two pages describing two species of nudibranchs. Bergh (Bergh R. (1888-1889). Nudibranchien vom Meere der Insel Mauritius. In: Reisen im Archipel der Philippinen von Dr. C. Semper, vol. 2: Malakologische Untersuchungen, part 3, pp. 755-872, pl. 77-84.) described two species (Baeolidia moebii Bergh, 1888 and Cerberilla moebii (Bergh, 1888) (as Fenrisia moebii)) with the specific name moebii on different pages. They are both in the family Aeolidiidae, but separate genera and species. I have removed the merge suggested tags. BernardP (talk) 21:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. William Avery (talk) 09:44, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!Edit

From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:09, 25 December 2016 (UTC)  

Thank you, FWiW Bzuk: Merry Christmas! William Avery (talk) 21:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Death of JonBenét RamseyEdit

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ApologiesEdit

Hi, there. I just wanted to apologize for the vandalism earlier. My account had been compromised at the time. Sorry about that. :-| -- Scjessey (talk) 19:01, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Well I'm just glad to discover you've got your account back, and haven't actually turned rogue. There are some malicious bastards out there! All the best for 2017. William Avery (talk) 00:20, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
And I need hardly point out: you're the victim here, not me. William Avery (talk) 00:32, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Scare-lineEdit

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Taxonomy templatesEdit

Hi, I appreciate the great work you do creating taxonomy templates. Just to note that there's a bot running that's removing the redundant |{{{1}}} from any such templates. Can you please make sure that you don't add it to any new taxonomy templates you create? The "autofill" feature now doesn't include it, but I see that you did create some templates with this code in them as late as 27 January 2017 (e.g. Template:Taxonomy/Saletara). You don't need to do anything about existing taxonomy templates as the bot will fix them, but it won't keep running indefinitely.

(See Wikipedia:Automated taxobox system/notes for a bit more explanation if you're interested.) Peter coxhead (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Yes. I had a bit of markup that I copied from somewhere, in a notepad file, because I found I was having to press two or three buttons to get to the autofilled page. I'll bear in mind that if I do that again I ought to check regularly that it corresponds to the default. William Avery (talk) 11:50, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)Edit

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Requested move done.Edit

I've swapped Allosmerus & Allosmerus elongatus. I've also updated the redirect templates, categorization on redirect and article, retargetted the other redirects and slightly reworded the lead to reflect the current title. I think that's all that needed doing from top of my head? AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

That's super, thank you. I had no idea it was possible for a non-administrator to do that! William Avery (talk) 20:27, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
You're welcome! Only if they have the page mover user right. There's currently 118 of us that aren't admins, so you tend to actually have a better chance finding an admin. :P But moving monotypic genera kind of is my speciality as far as page moves go. It's why I applied for the user right to start with: moths is riddled with monotypic genera at species titles. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:34, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
In percentage terms I think the fish pages get it wrong more often, but of course the absolute number of monotypic moth genera is far greater. William Avery (talk) 20:40, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Aye, sounds about right. The fish seem better categorized, though. We have only ~1200 genera listed as monotypic in Category:Monotypic Lepidoptera genera and subcategories. Unsurprisingly, I'm still coming across uncategorized monotypic genera almost daily while not even actively searching for them. There's a few articles I know need moving but I'll get to them when I'll get to them, I guess. Between my other maintenance work, I've got to prioritize and in the time I can move and update one misplaced "monomoth", I can also tag a good dozen redirects or convert half a dozen from using deprecated redr to rcat shell. (Or add missing location and taxon author categories. Or add missing links. Or decapitalize common names. Or...well, you know what I mean. Not like the grand tree of life will ever run out of work to do...) If I am already significantly updating those articles for some reason, though, I'll happily move on the spot as well. If not...I'll make sure they're at least in the right category for me to find back later, then move on to the eternal repetition of infrastructural Lepidoptera gnoming. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Page mover grantedEdit

Hello, William Avery. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! – Juliancolton | Talk 23:01, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

'gratz on your shiny new page moving right. :) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 23:10, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanx. On learning of your almost supernatural abilities I was immediately consumed with a jealous rage, but I have calmed down now. :-) William Avery (talk) 23:13, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Ah, the calming effect of knowing you now can inspire the same jealousy in others?   If you have any questions about how to work that shiny new right, lemme know, and let me welcome you to the totally-not-a-secretive-and-most-exclusive-cabal-because-the-cabal-doesn't-exist-I-swear non-cabal of Page Movers. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 23:20, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

image_width in taxoboxesEdit

Since I noticed you've been converting articles to using automatic taxoboxes, I wanted to mention that |image_width= is deprecated |image_upright= is preferred. But really, given that we really have no way of knowing the size of a readers screen, it doesn't make much sense to micromanage the size at which an image displays. Feel free to delete |image_width= when converting to automatic taxoboxes. In rare cases where the image has unusual proportions (very tall and narrow, or very short and wide) use |image_upright=. Plantdrew (talk) 18:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

I will bear that in mind. The only rationale I can think of for specifying image width is "Well, it looks better on my display". William Avery (talk) 18:39, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

DYK for Balkhash perchEdit

 On 17 March 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Balkhash perch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Karl Kessler's 1874 description of the Balkhash perch as a new species was based on specimens collected on Alexander von Schrenk's expedition to Turkestan in 1842? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Balkhash perch. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Balkhash perch), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:02, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Moths to rename to EilemaEdit

Hello William, I have seen your reverted to Wittia, it's a point of view; you say other species would be reverted to Eilema, I propose doing Manuela complana / Eilema complana (see references). It's possible to wait for other possibilities. What is your opinion? --ZorglubAB (talk) 05:28, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, To clarify, my revert was based on preserving a reasonable appearance of the displayed page while a discussion takes place, rather than an opinion about which scientific name would be preferable.
I am not a subject matter expert in taxonomy of lepidoptera, so I generally abide by the preferences of users who are more knowledgeable in this area, such as User:Ruigeroeland. William Avery (talk) 09:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:User pagesEdit

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Category:Animals described in....Edit

I know you spend a lot of time with this category. It seems to be an incredibly large category. I know some of it has already been split into class such as Birds and Insects. Would splitting the rest now (Mammals, Fish, Reptiles, Amphibians, etc. make more sense now? I'm sure it is a pretty large category now???....Pvmoutside (talk) 01:29, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I have no strong feelings, except that if it is to be done, it should be done in an agreed and (as far as possible, on a wiki) controlled manner. After all, What's so special about 1904? The taxonomy can be extracted from the html when a page has a taxobox, so it should be possible to split the existing categories using a bot. William Avery (talk) 08:19, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Picking up this thread, I absolutely agree that "it should be done in an agreed and ... controlled manner". The problem is that, contrary to what I first thought, although there's a reasonably clear set of instructions for plants at WP:WikiProject Plants/Description in year categories, there's nothing written down for animals. There are discussions, like this one, but nothing gets decided or documented. I think I've been guilty of reverting or changing some of your categorizations, assuming that the WP:PLANTS approach applied to animals, when it appears that it doesn't. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:03, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

No worries, Peter. I've received various opinions on the correct approach, mainly via the medium of reverting edit summaries. :-) We should probably start a discussiom somewhere. William Avery (talk) 08:22, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Sergiu CelibidacheEdit

Interesting, you got one of your thugs to protect the page. That will not suffice to stop reverting your lies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.46.137.248 (talk) 21:14, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

I have never made any addition to that page. What are my lies that need to be reverted, of which you write? Be aware that you can be blocked if you make personal attacks on other editors. William Avery (talk) 21:26, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Regarding the date of the death of Captain Oates.Edit

I simply corrected the error in the text. Oates death is accuratly noted at the top of the page as 17th February (He died on his birthday) but in the body of the text is is given as 16th February. Both cannot be correct so if I was to cite a source for the alteration it would be at the top of the article. 86.165.179.188 (talk) 19:40, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

It often helps to use an edit summary. William Avery (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Help requested!Edit

I came across you via an Edit on Lionel Blue, whose bio is presently woefully insufficient. In the past, I have attempted to contribute to Wikipedia but no longer have the confidence to do so: I have even lost the ability to enter content under my own name Jeffrey Newman (and am impressed that you use yours.) It would be good to develop Lionel's bio by, for example, adding a link to his Desert Island Discs broadcast.

However, my major hope is that eventually David Holt is given a Wiki bio. He was a Jungian analyst whose contribution to the development of theory and thinking needs acknowledgment. There is a web page devoted to him [1] (It may be Davidholt-online)

Thanks 2A02:C7D:B967:1700:2C26:C884:3A55:ED3D (talk) 07:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure I would register an account with my real name nowadays, but it didn't seem a bad idea in 2002. I'm bit caught up in Easter events for the next couple of days, but will come back to look at this soon. William Avery (talk) 08:55, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
I put the external DID link on the article Lionel Blue, and one to his recorded obit of himself.
The site about a Jungian analyst seems to be http://davidholtonline.com/. I cannot see that subject meeting the criteria laid down at Wikipedia:Notability (people), but there are some very thinly referenced articles in Category:Jungian psychologists; which doesn't mean another one is a good idea. It's possible that he would merit a mention in other articles, probably somewhere under Category:Carl Jung. William Avery (talk) 11:54, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Bishop Tutu alleged antisemitismEdit

This was flagged because it appeared "unhelpful" Could you please explain why you deemed it such?68.174.70.42 (talk) 22:32, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Where did you see the word "unhelpful"? William Avery (talk) 22:36, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Pardon me. The word you used appears below:

of your recent contributions to Desmond Tutu have been undone because they did "not appear constructive"

The removal of the 'end reference' that I reverted here seems to require explanation. What was your purpose? William Avery (talk) 00:42, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

My purpose was to provide evidence of the fact that Tutu's alleged anti-Semitism is controversial which is indisputable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.70.42 (talk) 11:18, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

I see. The fact is that Wikipedia's style strongly discourages that kind of "coatrack" section or article. See Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Article_structure and Wikipedia:Criticism. The alleged anti-Semitism should be mentioned where necessary, but there shouldn't be a section that's a quick guide to the various ways people have bad-mouthed the subject, under any title. William Avery (talk) 13:54, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Point taken but that is why I mentioned it in the "Controversy" section which I did not create. It appears that you have now edited that section out which seems odd given that it is a regular topic in articles on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.70.42 (talk) 18:34, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:JewsEdit

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Is it coincidence or intentional?Edit

I get the impression that you keep following after articles I edit with my AWB account and check over the pages. Is this correct, or is this just a coincidence? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu

I have a PetScan query that treats articles with taxoboxes like a watchlist and shows me recent changes. You seem to be changing mainly the herpetology articles, which always have some MOS problem when I look at them. I've been making MOS tweaks to fern articles too, on account of an editor changing many of them to speciesboxes. William Avery (talk) 11:39, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
A few parts of the tree of life, due to recent reclassifications, have major consistency issues with the taxonomy. The solution for this is to convert them to the automatic taxobox system. One of these parts is order Squamata, which is what I'm dealing with now. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:35, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes I've done a bit on former "Arctiidae", now treated as Erebidae - https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/summary.py?name=William+Avery&search=speciesbox+for&max=500&server=enwiki&ns= William Avery (talk) 16:09, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
That would be my subspecies work - my AWB plugin doesn't work well for subspecies (they tend to be harder to handle,with the "species link" issue). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:14, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Battle of BarryEdit

Hi, I've reverted your edit to the above-named article. While you're correct in saying that the past participle of "run" is "run", on this occasion the past tense is being used (not the past perfect tense) and "ran" is correct:

  • "He ran his fingers..." = correct (past tense)
  • "He had run his fingers..." = correct (past participle in past perfect tense)
  • "He run his fingers..." = incorrect (as past tense)
  • "He had ran his fingers..." = incorrect (as past perfect tense)

Cheers, Catfish Jim and the soapdish 14:01, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Your interpretation implies that the dipping of the fingers is putative ("said to have") whilst the running on the bloody fingers across the top of the shield is something certain (plain past), whereas the only reasonable interpretation is that they are both things that are "said to have" happened and the two verb parts are parallel.
  • He is said to have dipped his fingers in Camus's the blood
  • He is said to have run his fingers along the top of Robert's shield.
Combine to make
  • He is said to have dipped his fingers in Camus's the blood and to have run them along the top of Robert's shield.
Or, eliding the second have,
  • He is said to have dipped his fingers in Camus's the blood and run them along the top of Robert's shield.
It's clearly not being asserted that he ran his fingers across the shield to leave a red mark regardless of whether he had first dipped them in the blood, so your parsing of the sentence is a nonsense. William Avery (talk) 14:37, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I believe you're right. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 15:06, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Bahá'í FaithEdit

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Please comment on Talk:30 RockEdit

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Tony SaletanEdit

I am going to revert your edit, because in this instance "Tony" is not a nickname but rather a professional, or stage name, per cited MOS. PDGPA (talk) 19:59, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

The manual of style makes no such distinction that I can see. Could you please quote the words that you are relying on? William Avery (talk) 20:03, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

HolaEdit

Perdón por escribir en español. He visto esto y me pregunto ¿Qué diferencia hat entre {{Taxobox}} y {{Speciesbox}} para sustituir una por la otra? ¿Tiene algo que ver con Wikidata? Gracias --Jcfidy (talk) 08:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Hola. {{Speciesbox}} utiliza información taxonómica de una base de datos de templates. Ver, per ejemplo, Template:Taxonomy/Spinus. Todo es contenido en en.wikipedia.org, y no tiene conexión con Wikidata. El sistema assegura coherencia en la jerarquía taxonómica y un formato correcto de la información. Hay tambien {{Automatic_taxobox}}. William Avery (talk) 08:50, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

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Rowan AtkinsonEdit

Hey, Rowan have Armenian grandmother or grandfather he is officialy Englishman-Armenian Arman Khanoyan (talk) 10:38, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

If you can cite a source for that statement, than add it to the article, using the source as a reference. I did a casual search using Google and could see nothing but vague rumours, and comments that he looked a bit Armenian. There was nothing that could be called a reliable source. William Avery (talk) 10:58, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, i have many many links about Rowan. Google? 😂 ha ha ha yes in google search Rowan Atkinson. Arman Khanoyan (talk) 16:37, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the assEdit

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 September 15#King who died with a hot poker up the ass. Hello William. As one of the most prolific editors of the Edward II of England article, would you mind leaving a comment or a !vote as to whether King who died with a hot poker up the ass should be deleted? Thanks. --Nevéselbert 13:56, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Category:Cultural tourism in spain to Category:Cultural tourism in SpainEdit

OK you are right. It has been a spelling error. I do not know how to correct it. Can you do it? Thank you. --Fjrc282a (talk) 14:36, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

No problem. I have listed in at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Speedy#Current_nominations. William Avery (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Permalink for AfromothsEdit

William, I saw your edit at Ancylosis yerburii where you changed the link to the page at Afromoths. I couldn't tell why that link was better. On the page, whether accessed from http://www.afromoths.net/species/show/10818 or http://www.afromoths.net/species_by_code/ANCYYERB, it shows "Permalink" on the right side near the top, and I assumed that the URL that showed after clicking on that was the best link.

Now I see that by right clicking on "Permalink" and selecting "Copy Link Location", I can get that URL. Is that better? Is there another way of getting that URL?

Thanks for your help. If that link really is better, I've messed up a lot of links by changing from the format of your link to what it had been before.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  03:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

The numeric links are not permanent, and change when the afromoths site is updated. A typical sequence of events can be seen at Eudonia marioni.
I don't know an other way to get the permalink URL. The code is usually first three letters of genus and first three letters of species, but sometimes uses numbers if there is potential for duplicates. Anyway, don't worry, they are not the most high profile articles. Perhaps we could formulate a template for afromoths links, and propose it on the lepidoptera wikiproject page. They could then be corrected by a bot.
I thought I posted about this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Lepidoptera, but I can find no trace. Perhaps it was somewhere else! William Avery (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for that detailed explanation. I'd noticed that links to Afromoths were often wrong, so I made a habit of checking all of them when editing for other purposes. Now I see I was fixing them wrong. I see that by doing a search for insource:"afromoths.net/species/show" I can find over a thousand links like that. Looks like I found myself a new project.
I'll also spend some time updating Wikipedia:WikiProject Lepidoptera#Online with some info about Afromoths. I'll discuss any changes I make there on the talk page if I'm not confident. Your edit summary at Ancylosis yerburii was the clue that I needed. Thanks again for the help and keep up the good work.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  15:44, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
A small shortcut that only seems to work in Firefox is that if one right clicks on "Permalink" and presses "a", the link is copied to the clipboard. Saves a tiny bit of mouse work that adds up when doing many of them.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  21:57, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Rfc noticeEdit

More options have been added to the Rfc at Charles, Prince of Wales. You may want to add that article to your watchlist :) GoodDay (talk) 16:47, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

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Why warn me?Edit

And who are you? And he (MarnetteD did he email you?) has reverted me without going to talk page. Would you like to tell me how he talked to you? Or are you he? 75.161.53.1 (talk) 21:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

The warning itself explains why it was issued. Please engage at Talk:Oscar_Wilde#POV_/_chauvinist_to_say_Wildes's_parents_were_Anglo-Irish? to explain the reasoning behind your edit. William Avery (talk) 21:53, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
So just how did that other guy get you to take time from moth articles and pick on me? Not saying sock puppetry (now that you have taught me the term) just exactly how??????75.161.53.1 (talk) 22:22, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
The page is on my watchlist. William Avery (talk) 22:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  The Wikilink Barnstar
For linking from several hundred species to the authorities who described them.

If you come across any authorities identified only by surname (especially before early C20) who you can't track down, please get in touch. It's a hobby of mine; I think I've only failed once. (I came across Richard Brinsley Hinds because there was a {{dn}} tag on a link to the DAB page Hinds. It took me something like 30 minutes to find his initials, and another 15 to find his given names. I was shocked to discover that he seemed have been forgotten, and at once set about writing the article.) Narky Blert (talk) 10:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Well thank you for the article. It's a great boon that the lives behind taxonomic authorities are now so often available at the click of a button. William Avery (talk) 12:03, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

Zygaenidae family or family ZygaenidaeEdit

William, I've seen you make changes like this one, while making other changes, and I've wondered why. "The Zygaenidae family" sounds better to my ear, but my ear is not scientifically trained. Persuade me that your way is right and I'll join you in your quest to set the "tone". Also, I saw another place where you said that a genus had been "erected" instead of "described". I've seen it both ways (also "created"); is erected better in some way? Thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  20:49, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah yes, restrictive appositives, such as "the number five", "the planet Venus", "the author Charles Dickens","the newspaper Isvestia", "the element iron", "the protein haemoglobin", "the philosopher Diogenes", etc. Google Ngram confirms my suspicion that this form is in overwhelming preponderance in reliable sources when referring to technical names of taxa. See this comparison for a couple of families sometimes mentioned outside academic literature. Even more pronounced for a couple of lepidoptera families, that are probably found only in technical sources. I think to myself "Zygaenidae family"? I've never seen the like!, and Ngram agrees. This only applies to the actual Latin family names: the family Myrtidae is called 'the myrtle family' by gardeners, and good luck to them. I'm pretty sure I've seen WolfmanSF make changes on these lines, too. I'll ping you when I've had a think about the other things. William Avery (talk) 22:22, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
Keep in mind that "family Myrtidae" is not a compound noun (it means the same as "Myrtidae"), while "myrtle family" is a compound noun (it means something different than either "myrtle" or "family"). I think that is why the word order normally seen in formal prose differs between the two. Similarly, we say "planet Mars" but "Mars rover", and "enzyme telomerase" but "telomerase gene". Note that Polbot generated about 70,000 species article stubs with the syntax initially backwards. WolfmanSF (talk) 22:59, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
I see what you mean: restrictive appositive constructions don't create compound nouns. Unfortunately, Polbot has been imitated by some highly industrious human editors. William Avery (talk) 13:07, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
Complex grammar makes my head spin, but I played with the ngrams and you are clearly right. I'll add that to the list of things I do while I'm doing other things. I think my gut feeling comes from phrases like "The family Smith", which sounds like people putting on airs in contrast to the down-to-earth "Smith family". Thank you.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  01:17, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
A point that has arisen in several past discussions on this subject is that there is a contrast between usage of zoological and botanical Linnaean terms. Usage in zoology seems to be much more consistent. This can be illustrated by the following comparison: usage of Hominidae and usage of Rosaceae. My interpretation is that due to the very widespread nature of the practice of horticulture, the average level of education and scientific literacy is lower among the larger population that is using the botanical terms, and that this has corrupted usage of the latter. WolfmanSF (talk) 07:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you for all of your category editing on gastropods. You were a great help to me. Because of you and me, every gastropod now has its year of description as a category. Scorpions13256 (talk) 05:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

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Thank you. William Avery (talk) 15:53, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
Are you intending to create the "Gastropods described in DECADE" categories? Compare the category hierarchies of Category:Gastropods described in 1914 and Category:Animals described in 1914. The 'standard' for these categories is the hierarchy "... described in YEAR" – "... described in DECADE" – "... described in CENTURY". One reason this matters can be seen by looking at Category:Gastropods described in 1900. If you follow the category hierarchy upwards in different ways you arrive at Category:Gastropods described in the 19th century but Category:Animals described in the 20th century. It's a well known (at least I thought it was well known) anomaly in these "year of description" categories that since the decades are described as "10s" .. "90s", the centuries cause problems.
It's also very useful to add the {{Category in year}} navigation template to "... described in YEAR" categories as per the "Animals described in YEAR" categories. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:59, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
I based the gastropods hierarchy on Category:Birds by century of formal description, and I wasn't intending to do any grouping by decades. I'm aware of the discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life/Archive 36#Category year of formal description and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life/Archive 36#Formal description categories should be by year only, but I couldn't divine any consensus. I find myself in something of a bind here, in being very concerned about the consistency of the taxonomic groupings used across these categories (and being willing to do some of the 'heavy lifting' to make them consistent), but being completely uninterested in chronological groupings of years. It would be very agreeable if the whole thing could be solved in MediaWiki, with the year categories being grouped under something like "Years in gastropod taxonomy", and the page having options to view as a flat list of years, or grouped by decade, century, etc. I might look at writing a front-end API-based gadget of some sort to do that, if it hasn't already been done.
I will add the navigation template to pages. William Avery (talk) 13:27, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I too am much more concerned about the consistency of the taxonomic groupings than how the years are grouped. (I've just been working on getting rid of a random set of "deuterostome" categories that appeared.) There's a logic to removing the DECADE categories altogether, which solves the issue of using "century" in a non-standard way, but a front end that allowed variable ways of viewing the data would be better. In the meantime, for gastropods you've been copying the way it works for birds and for spiders I've been copying the way it works for plants. Um... Peter coxhead (talk) 15:48, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Sigh... William Avery (talk) 18:49, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
Well, I've been working on some of the nonsense ones; haven't got to Ecdysozoa yet. Should we try an RfC on some principles to be used in creating these categories? Peter coxhead (talk) 11:40, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
I think a general discussion would definitely be better than isolated deletion proposals. William Avery (talk) 18:42, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, can you please ban unknown user 92.238.193.204 for repeated vandalism and disruptive editing on the article Victor H. Krulak? He is still changing the Marine Corps Parachutists Badge for Army Parachutists badge, even if I placed link with correct badge. He was banned some time ago by yourself for the same behaviour. Thank you AntonyZ (talk) 18:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Not banned, or even blocked, just reverted, I think. William Avery (talk) 11:53, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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Abuse of your rollback rightsEdit

Hello.

I noticed that you used your rollback rights in the Bayonetta: Bloody Fate article to revert a change with which you disagree. This is a direct violation of WP:ROLLBACK, which says:

Use of standard rollback for any other purposes – such as reverting good-faith changes which you happen to disagree with – is likely to be considered misuse of the tool. When in doubt, use another method of reversion and supply an edit summary to explain your reasoning.

I have no reason to believe that 5.75.114.70 has been editing in bad faith. The comment about the quality of translation seemed something that might or might not be okay, but the reminder of the contribution seems to have been fine. Please assume good faith and don't bite the newcomers.

Cheers.

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Plain violation of NPOV in my book. William Avery (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

The Honourable Kate Osamor MPEdit

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The ManEdit

  Medal of concern
Thank you for the advice Sir William Avery. It is my first time time to edit a wikipedia page so I just try to and did not know how to truly edit something. I am grateful of that act of yours. Capt. Nemo42200 (talk) 14:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Bulbophyllum species authoritiesEdit

I appreciate the work you've been doing converting orchids to Speciesboxes. I was wondering whether you were planning to go back through and add taxonomic authorities for the many Bulbophyllum species missing them. You're one of the most conscientious editors with regards to linking taxon authorities, so I'm guessing you may well be planning to revisit the Bulbophyllum lacking authorities. If you're not planning to do so, I'll tackle them myself, but I'm perfectly happy to leave it to you. Plantdrew (talk) 01:02, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I did notice that authorities are sadly lacking in many cases :-( I will take a look at the possibility of 'harvesting' them en masse from somewhere (Perhaps the Bulbophylum checklist). William Avery (talk) 09:18, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Sorry!Edit

I intended to block 86.13.115.19 (talk · contribs) following your report to WP:AIV but accidentally blocked you instead. Needless to say, I immediately unblocked you and have made clear in the log that it was my error, for which you have my sincere apologies! WJBscribe (talk) 12:54, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Thaks for the apology, which leaves me slightly less irked. :-) William Avery (talk) 12:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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I have seen that you have made edits to the T.S. Eliot article before. I am interested in your comments on a recent change. A recent sub-section about the sculptor Jacob Epstein was made to the T.S. Eliot article. I deleted the addition and explained my reasons on the talk page.

Here is what was removed: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=T._S._Eliot&action=historysubmit&type=revision&diff=877562978&oldid=877549994

Some have mentioned on the talk page that the Epstein material should be put back. Would you please look at the changes and make your opinion known on the Eliot talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:T._S._Eliot#Jacob_Epstein

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Much appreciated. I had no idea this existed, and will take a look. William Avery (talk) 08:18, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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chiropteransEdit

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May 2019 Tree of Life NewsletterEdit

May 2019—Issue 002


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Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  Cretoxyrhina by Macrophyseter
  Bramble Cay melomys by The lorax/Vanamonde93, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Chimpanzee by LittleJerry/Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Tim riley
  Spinophorosaurus by FunkMonk/Jens Lallensack, reviewed by Enwebb
  Trachodon mummy by Jens Lallensack, reviewed by Gog the Mild
  Megabat by Enwebb, reviewed by Jens Lallensack

Newly nominated FAs

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Fundamental changes being discussed at WikiProject Biology

On 23 May, user Prometheus720 created a talk page post, "Revamp of Wikiproject Biology--Who is In?". In the days since, WP:BIOL has been bustling with activity, with over a dozen editors weighing in on this discussion, as well as several others that have subsequently spawned. An undercurrent of thought is that WP:BIOL has too many subprojects, preventing editors from easily interacting and stopping a "critical mass" of collaboration and engagement. Many mergers and consolidations of subprojects have been tentatively listed, with a consolidation of WikiProjects Genetics + Molecular and Cell Biology + Computational Biology + Biophysics currently in discussion. Other ideas being aired include updating old participants lists, redesigning project pages to make them more user-friendly, and clearly identifying long- and short-term goals.

Editor Spotlight: These editors want you to write about dinosaurs

Editors FunkMonk and Jens Lallensack had a very fruitful month, collaborating to bring two dinosaur articles to GA and then nominating them both for FA. They graciously decided to answer some questions for the first ToL Editor Spotlight, giving insight to their successful collaborations, explaining why you should collaborate with them, and also sharing some tidbits about their lives off-Wikipedia.

1) Enwebb: How long have you two been collaborating on articles?

  • Jens Lallensack: I started in the German Wikipedia in 2005 but switched to the English Wikipedia because of its very active dinosaur project. My first major collaboration with FunkMonk was on Heterodontosaurus in 2015.
  • FunkMonk: Yeah, we had interacted already on talk pages and through reviewing each other's articles, and at some point I was thinking of expanding Heterodontosaurus, and realised Jens had already written the German Wikipedia version, so it seemed natural to work together on the English one. Our latest collaboration was Spinophorosaurus, where by another coincidence, I had wanted to work on that article for the WP:Four Award, and it turned out that Jens had a German book about the expedition that found the dinosaur, which I wouldn't have been able to utilise with my meagre German skills. Between those, we also worked on Brachiosaurus, a wider Dinosaur Project collaboration between several editors.

2) Enwebb: Why dinosaurs?

  • JL: Because of the huge public interest in them. But dinosaurs are also highly interesting from a scientific point of view: key evolutionary innovations emerged within this group, such as warm-bloodedness, gigantism, and flight. Dinosaur research is, together with the study of fossil human remains, the most active field in paleontology. New scientific techniques and approaches tend to get developed within this field. Dinosaur research became increasingly interdisciplinary, and now does not only rely on various fields of biology and geology, but also on chemistry and physics, among others. Dinosaurs are therefore ideal to convey scientific methodology to the general public.
  • FM: As outlined above, dinosaurs have been described as a "gateway to science"; if you learn about dinosaurs, you will most likely also learn about a lot of scientific fields you would not necessarily be exposed to otherwise. On a more personal level, having grown up with and being influenced by various dinosaur media, it feels pretty cool to help spread knowledge about these animals, closest we can get to keeping them alive.

3) Enwebb: Why should other editors join you in writing articles related to paleontology? Are you looking to attract new editors, or draw in experienced editors from other areas of Wikipedia?

  • JL: Because we are a small but active and helpful community. Our Dinosaur collaboration, one of the very few active open collaborations in Wikipedia, makes high-level writing on important articles easier and more fun. Our collaboration is especially open to editors without prior experience in high-level writing. But we do not only write articles: several WikiProject Dinosaur participants are artists who do a great job illustrating the articles, and maintain an extensive and very active image review system. In fact, a number of later authors started with contributing images.
  • FM: Anyone who is interested in palaeontology is welcome to try writing articles, and we would be more than willing to help. I find that the more people that work on articles simultaneously with me, the more motivation I get to write myself. I am also one of those editors who started out contributing dinosaur illustrations and making minor edits, and only began writing after some years. But when I got to it, it wasn't as intimidating as I had feared, and I've learned a lot in the process. For example anatomy; if you know dinosaur anatomy, you have a very good framework for understanding the anatomy of other tetrapod animals, including humans.

4) Enwebb: Between the two of you, you have over 300 GA reviews. FunkMonk, you have over 250 of those. What keeps you coming back to review more articles?

  • FM: One of the main reasons I review GANs is to learn more about subjects that seem interesting (or which I would perhaps not come across otherwise). There are of course also more practical reasons, such as helping an article on its way towards FAC, to reduce the GAN backlog, and to "pay back" when I have a nomination up myself. It feels like a win-win situation where I can be entertained by interesting info, while also helping other editors get their nominations in shape, and we'll end up with an article that hopefully serves to educate a lot of people (the greater good).
  • JL: Because I enjoy reading Wikipedia articles and like to learn new things. In addition, reviews give me the opportunity to have direct contact with the authors, and help them to make their articles even better. This is quite rewarding for me personally. But I also review because I consider our GA and FA system to be of fundamental importance for Wikipedia. When I started editing Wikipedia (the German version), the article promotion reviews motivated me and improved my writing skills a lot. Submitting an article for review requires one to get serious and take additional steps to bring the article to the best quality possible. GAs and FAs are also a good starting point for readers, and may motivate them to become authors themselves.

5) Enwebb: What are your editing preferences? Any scripts or gadgets you find invaluable?

  • FM: One script that everyone should know about is the duplink highlight tool. It will show duplinks within the intro and body of a given article separately, and it seems a lot of people still don't know about it, though they are happy when introduced to it. I really liked the citationbot too (since citation consistency is a boring chore to me), but it seems to be blocked at the moment due to some technical issues.
  • JL: I often review using the Wikipedia Beta app on my smartphone, as it allows me to read without needing to sit in front of the PC. For writing, I find the reference management software Zotero invaluable, as it generates citation templates automatically, saving a lot of time.
    • Editor's note: I downloaded Zotero and tried it for the first time and think it is a very useful tool. More here.

6) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-wiki?

  • FM: Perhaps that I have no background in natural history/science, but work with animation and games. But fascination with and knowledge of nature and animals is actually very helpful when designing and animating characters and creatures, so it isn't that far off, and I can actually use some of the things I learn while writing here for my work (when I wrote the Dromaeosauroides article, it was partially to learn more about the animal for a design-school project).
  • JL: That I am actually doing research on dinosaurs. Though I avoid writing about topics I publish research on, my Wikipedia work helps me to keep a good general overview over the field, and quite regularly I can use what I learned while writing for Wikipedia for my research.

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June 2019 Tree of Life NewsletterEdit

June 2019—Issue 003


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  Masked booby by Casliber and Aa77zz, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Rook (bird) by Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by J Milburn
  Vernonopterus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Campylocephalus by Ichthyovenator, reviewed by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Unionopterus by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Ashorocetus
  Big Cat, Little Cat by Barkeep49, reviewed by J Milburn
  Félicette by Kees08, reviewed by Nova Crystallis

Newly nominated content

  Masked booby by Casliber
  Adelophthalmidae
  Plains zebra by LittleJerry
  Letter-winged kite by Casliber



Relative WikiWork
Project name Relative WikiWork
Cats
4.79
Fisheries and fishing
4.9
Dogs
4.91
Viruses
4.91
ToL
4.94
Cetaceans
4.97
Primates
4.98
Sharks
5.04
All wikiprojects average
5.05
Dinosaurs
5.12
Equine
5.15
Bats
5.25
Mammals
5.32
Aquarium fishes
5.35
Hypericaceae
5.38
Turtles
5.4
Birds
5.46
Australian biota
5.5
Marine life
5.54
Animals
5.56
Paleontology
5.57
Rodents
5.58
Amphibians and Reptiles
5.64
Fungi
5.65
Bivalves
5.66
Plants
5.67
Algae
5.68
Arthropods
5.69
Hymenoptera
5.72
Microbiology
5.72
Cephalopods
5.74
Fishes
5.76
Ants
5.79
Gastropods
5.8
Spiders
5.86
Insects
5.9
Beetles
5.98
Lepidoptera
5.98
Spineless editors overwhelmed by stubs

Within the Tree of Life and its many subprojects, there is an abundance of stubs. Welcome to Wikipedia, what's new, right? However, based on all wikiprojects listed (just over two thousand), the Tree of Life project is worse off in average article quality than most. Based on the concept of relative WikiWork (the average number of "steps" needed to have a project consisting of all featured articles (FAs), where stub status → FA consists of six steps), only seven projects within the ToL have an average rating of "start class" or better. Many projects, particularly those involving invertebrates, hover at an average article quality slightly better than a stub. With relative WikiWorks of 5.98 each, WikiProject Lepidoptera and WikiProject Beetles have the highest relative WikiWork of any project. Given that invertebrates are incredibly speciose, it may not surprise you that many articles about them are lower quality. WikiProject Beetles, for example, has over 20 times more articles than WikiProject Cats. Wikipedia will always be incomplete, so we should take our relatively low WikiWork as motivation to write more articles that are also better in quality.

Editor Spotlight: Showing love to misfit taxa

We're joined for this month's Editor Spotlight by NessieVL, a long-time contributor who lists themselves as a member of WikiProject Fungus, WikiProject Algae, and WikiProject Cephalopods.

1) Enwebb: How did you come to edit articles about organisms and taxonomic groups?

  • Nessie: The main force, then and now, driving me to create or edit articles is thinking "Why isn't there an article on that on Wikipedia?" Either I'll read about some rarely-sighted creature in the deep sea or find something new on iNaturalist and want to learn more. First stop (surprise!) is Wikipedia, and many times there is just a stub or no page at all. Sometimes I just add the source that got me to the article, not sometimes I go deep and try to get everything from the library or online journals and put it all in an article. The nice thing about taxa is the strong precedent that all accepted extant taxa are notable, so one does not need to really worry about doing a ton of research and having the page get removed. I was super worried about this as a new editor: I still really dislike conflict so if I can avoid it I do. Anyway, the most important part is stitching an article in to the rest of Wikipedia: Linking all the jargon, taxonomers, pollinators, etc., adding categories, and putting in the correct WikiProjects. Recently I have been doing more of the stitching-in stuff with extant articles. The last deep-dive article I made was Karuka at the end of last year, which is a bit of a break for me. I guess it's easier to do all the other stuff on my tablet while watching TV.

2) Enwebb: Many editors in the ToL are highly specialized on a group of taxa. A look at your recently created articles includes much diversity, though, with viruses, bacteria, algae, and cnidarians all represented—are there any commonalities for the articles you work on? Would you say you're particularly interested in certain groups?

  • Nessie: I was a nerd from a time when that would get you beat up, so I like odd things and underdogs. I also avoid butting heads, so not only do I find siphonophores and seaweeds fascinating I don't have to worry about stepping on anyone's toes. I go down rabbitholes where I start writing an article like Mastocarpus papillatus because I found some growing on some rocks, then in my research I see it is parasitized by Pythium porphyrae, which has no article, and how can that be for an oomycete that oddly lives in the ocean and also attacks my tasty nori. So then I wrote that article and that got me blowing off the dust on other Oomycota articles, encouraged by the pull of propagating automatic taxoboxes. Once you've done the taxonomy template for the genus, well then you might as well do all the species now that the template is taken care of for them too. and so on until I get sucked in somewhere else. I think it's good to advocate for some of these 'oddball' taxa as it makes it easier for editors to expand their range from say plants to the pathogenic microorganisms of their favorite plant.
My favorite clades though, It's hard to pick for a dilettante like me. I like working on virus taxonomy, but I can't think of a specific virus species that I am awed by. Maybe Tulip breaking virus for teaching us economics or Variola virus for having so many smallpox deities, one of which was popularly sung about by Desi Arnaz and then inspired the name of a cartoon character who was then misremembered and then turned into a nickname for Howard Stern's producer Gary Dell'Abate. Sorry, really had to share that chain, but for a species that's not a staple food it probably has the most deities. But anyway, for having the most species that wow me, I love a good fungus or algae, but that often is led by my stomach. Also why I seem to research so many plant articles. You can't eat siphonophores, at least I don't, but they are fascinating with their federalist colonies of zooids. Bats are all amazing, but the task force seems to have done so much I feel the oomycetes and slime moulds need more love. Same thing with dinosaurs (I'm team Therizinosaurus though). But honestly, every species has that one moment in the research where you just go, wow, that's so interesting. For instance, I loved discovering that the picture-winged fly (Delphinia picta) has a mating dance that involves blowing bubbles. Now I keep expecting them to show me when they land on my arm, but no such luck yet.

3) Enwebb: I noticed that many of your recent edits utilize the script Rater, which aids in quickly reassessing the quality and importance of an article. Why is it important to update talk page assessments of articles? I also noticed that the quality rating you assign often aligns with ORES, a script that uses machine-learning to predict article quality. Coincidence?

  • Nessie: I initially started focusing on WikiProject talk page templates because they seem to be the key to data collecting and maintenance for articles, much more so than categories. This is where you note of an article needs an image, or audio, or a range map. It's how the cleanup listing bot sorts articles, and how Plantdrew does his automated taxobox usage stats. The latter inspired me to look for articles on organisms that are not assigned to any ToL WikiProjects which initially was in the thousands. I got it down to zero with just copypasta so you can imagine I was excited when I saw the rater tool. Back then I rated everything stub/low because it was faster: I couldn't check every article for the items on the B-class checklists. Plus each project has their own nuances to rating scales and I thought the editors in the individual projects would take it from there. I also thought all species were important, so how can I choose a favorite? Now it is much easier with the rater tool and the apparent consensus with Abductive's method of rating by the pageviews (0-9 views/day is low, 10-99 is med, 100-999 is high...). For the quality I generally go by the ORES rating, you caught me. It sometimes is thrown off by a long list of species or something, but it's generally good for stub to C: above that needs formal investigation and procedures I am still learning about. It seems that in the ToL projects we don't focus so much on getting articles to GA/FA so it's been harder to pick up. It was a little culture shock when I went on the Discord server and it seemed everyone was obsessed with getting articles up in quality. I think ToL is focusing on all the missing taxa and (re)organizing it all, which when you already have articles on every anime series or whatever you can focus on bulking the articles up more. In any event, on my growing to-do list is trying to get an article up to FA or GA and learn the process that way so I can better do the quality ratings and not just kick the can down the road.

4) Enwebb: What, if anything, can ToL and its subprojects do to better support collaboration and coordination among editors? How can we improve?

  • Nessie: I mentioned earlier that the projects are the main way maintenance is done. And it is good that we have a bunch of subprojects that let those tasks get broken up into manageable pieces. Frankly I'm amazed anything gets done with WikiProject Plants with how huge its scope is. Yet this not only parcels out the work but the discussion as well. A few editors like Peter coxhead and Plantdrew keep an eye on many of the subprojects and spread the word, but it's still easy for newer editors to get a little lost. There should be balance between the lumping and splitting. The newsletter helps by crossing over all the WikiProjects, and if the discord channel picked up that would help too. Possibly the big Enwiki talk page changes will help as well.

5) Enwebb: What would surprise the ToL community to learn about your life off-Wikipedia?

  • Nessie: I'm not sure anything would be surprising. I focus on nature offline too, foraging for mushrooms or wild plants and trying to avoid ticks and mosquitos. I have started going magnet fishing lately, more to help clean up the environment than in the hopes of finding anything valuable. But it would be fun to find a weapon and help solve a cold case or something.
June DYKs

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Please comment on Talk:People's Party (Spain)Edit

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Ottoman Empire: thank youEdit

Thanks for accepting my minor edit on the Ottoman Empire page. I appreciate it. 04:22, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Plant or plantsEdit

Like you, I think that "species of plant" or "genus of plant" is more natural English. I find that such usages are often 'corrected', particularly by editors who seem to be from the US. I've been wondering if there might be an ENGVAR difference. Peter coxhead (talk) 14:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I'm quite surprised that, whereas "a species of moths" and "a species of beetles" are virtually non-existent usages(see Google NGRAM), "a species of plants" seems to at least be a form found in the corpus.(See Google NGRAM). When I click the links at the bottom of the NGRAM page, to display examples, it seems to be very short of actual examples. Not sure why. "A species of flies" was something of a Caftaric tic. William Avery (talk) 14:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Well, "a species of plants" seems to be at a frequency of about 0.00000010, or 1 in 1,000,000, since 1940, so there won't be many examples... Straight Google searches for the exact phrases give me about 6 million hits for "a species of plant" and about 5.5 million for "a species of plants", which surprises me. Looking at the top entries for each search suggests to me that the former is more common in scientific writing, the latter in less formal writing (with more ".com" domains, I think). Peter coxhead (talk) 19:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Tree of Life NewsletterEdit

July 2019—Issue 004


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  List of felids by PresN
  Masked booby by Casliber
  Letter-winged kite by Casliber, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Plains zebra by LittleJerry, reviewed by starsandwhales
  Ornithogalum umbellatum by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
 


Newly nominated content

  Letter-winged kite by Casliber
  Megabat by Enwebb
  Onychopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Dvulikiaspis by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk
  Clussexx Three D Grinchy Glee by Hunter Kahn
  Giant golden-crowned flying fox by Enwebb
  Myxomatosis by Rabbit Vet

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Please comment on Talk:Goop (company)Edit

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DYK for DeretaphrusEdit

 On 21 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Deretaphrus, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that it is not known whether larvae of Deretaphrus beetles spin their cocoons from their mouths or anal glands? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Deretaphrus. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Deretaphrus), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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August 2019 Tree of Life NewsletterEdit

August 2019—Issue 005


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  Letter-winged kite by Casliber
  Megabat by Enwebb
  Rock parrot by Casliber
  Adelophthalmidae by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Giant golden-crowned flying fox by Enwebb, reviewed by Starsandwhales
  Myxomatosis by Rabbit Vet, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
  Tylopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Starsandwhales and Enwebb
  Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk, reviewed by Jens Lallensack
  Slender glass lizard by SL93, reviewed by Casliber
  Guano by Enwebb, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
  Dvulikiaspis by Super Dromaeosaurus, reviewed by Casliber
  Rock parrot by Casliber, reviewed by The Rambling Man
  Leptospirosis by Cerevisae, reviewed by Ajpolino
  Hepatitis E by Ozzie10aaaa, reviewed by Casliber
  Cardabiodon by Macrophyseter, reviewed by FunkMonk
  Clostridium tetani by Ajpolino, reviewed by Chiswick Chap

Newly nominated content

  Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk
  Western yellow robin by Casliber
  Pekarangan by Dhio270599
  Hibbertopterus by Ichthyovenator












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September 2019 Tree of Life NewsletterEdit

September 2019—Issue 006


Tree of Life


Welcome to the Tree of Life newsletter!
Newly recognized content

  Kosmoceratops by FunkMonk
  Onychopterella by Super Dromaeosaurus
  Western yellow robin by Casliber
  Western yellow robin by Casliber, reviewed by Josh Milburn
  Apororhynchus by Mattximus, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
  Pekarangan by Dhio-270599, reviewed by Cerebellum
  Fritillaria by Michael Goodyear, reviewed by Chiswick Chap
  Embioptera by Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth, reviewed by Vanamonde93
  Durio graveolens by NessieVL, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
  Big brown bat by Enwebb and Gen. Quon, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
  King brown snake by Casliber, reviewed by Dunkleosteus77
  Staffordshire Bull Terrier by Atsme, reviewed by FunkMonk
  Ambush predator by Chiswick Chap, reviewed by Enwebb
  Belemnitida by Dunkleosteus77, reviewed by Chiswick Chap

Newly nominated content

  Apororhynchus by Mattximus
  Meinhard Michael Moser by J Milburn
  St. Croix macaw by FunkMonk
  Paleocene by Dunkleosteus77
  Orcinus meyeri by Dunkleosteus77
  Snakefly by Chiswick Chap and Cwmhiraeth
  Tricolored bat by Enwebb
  Halloween darter by Enwebb






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Palestine-Israel articles 4 arbitration case commencingEdit

In August 2019, the Arbitration Committee resolved to open the Palestine-Israel articles 4 arbitration case as a suspended case due to workload considerations. The Committee is now un-suspending and commencing the case.

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