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It takes some time for an old hand to grasp this site, even though I find it in general easy to add stuff. Still havent got totally grip on how to add pics though... Ulflarsen 20:53, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Started adding pics on Wikimedia commons, and it seems to work well...:-) Ulflarsen 17:59, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Do your homeworkEdit

yo! do your homework before adding careless comments. Don't go around changing things on wiki blindly. Wikipedia is built on policies, abide to those policies.

I do try to do my homework and try to abide by the rules of Wikipedia as I see it as a great resource for all of us. Following the link to the Wikipedia Policies you will see that rule #1 is: "Avoid bias. Articles should be written from a neutral point of view, representing differing views on a subject fairly and sympathetically.". The article about Bose is clearly not written from a NPOV. Seen from the British and the Allied side he was a collaborator with the Axis powers and that needs to be reflected in the article as well.
Rule #4 is: "Respect other contributors. Wikipedia contributors come from many different countries and cultures, and have widely different views. Treating others with respect is key to collaborating effectively in building an encyclopedia. For some guidelines, see Wikipedia etiquette, Wikipedia:Writers rules of engagement, Wikipedia:Civility, Dispute resolution." Accusing me of changing things on wiki blindly is not very respectful. I have done only one change, added the NPOV template, and I did argue for that addition to the article. I have not altered anything as I am not that familiar with the issue and believe it is better left to others to do that rewrite. Ulflarsen 21:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Urgent warningEdit

Are you aware of the Wikipedia:Three Revert Rule? Please read up on it now, and stop reverting Subhash Chandra Bose. To continue reverting after you've been informed of the rule is a blocking offense. --Bishonen | talk 10:54, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

I am aware of the rule, but as I understand it is not an offense when someone vandalize. I have added information about Bose and that was removed without any arguments. If you check with the talk page I have continually tried to engage the ones that oppose the content I added in discussing it. I have also listed actual information as best I could to show the basis for what I write.
As far as I can see there has been no sincere discussion from the ones opposing my view, only reverts. I understand you are an administrator and I would ask you to look into the case. It seems that the next step would be involving a third part. Ulflarsen 11:03, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
I quite agree that you have reasonable complaints against the behavior of those who remove your content, but you're reading the 3RR rule all wrong if you think that kind of thing is an exception to it. The only exception is "simple vandalism", and simple vandalism is not debatable removals of debatable content, it's replacing an article with "Nathan liek cock". I hope you get results from your RFC! Also, a shortcut might be to post an appeal on the talkpage of one of our hardworking real-life historians. User:Jmabel and User:El C come to mind. Best,--Bishonen | talk 12:32, 20 May 2005 (UTC).
Well, the revert I did was my last, and I had no intention to make a forth. But if the three I did was wrong I will keep that in mind. As it is now it stands that the neutrality is disputed, and that's a good intermediate solution I guess. The article was actually linked from a BBC article just a few days ago - again showing that Wikipedia has relevance. Will post a comment to the historians you mentioned and besides that keep off the article as I guess I have stated my point clearly enough. Ulflarsen
I don't know a lot about the subject, and Talk:Subash Chandra Bose is getting dauntingly long and complex, so right now I seem to be understanding less rather than more about it. But I certainly agree that you have met some disrespect, I hope you won't let it bother you! Congratulations on remaining civil in the face of rudeness, and please don't be discouraged from contributing. --Bishonen | talk 16:44, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your hard work, and I hope the combined efforts of the contributors will make for a better article in the end. Outside help does seem to be needed, and since neither El C, Jmabel|, nor John Kenney seem to be around, I've posted an appeal on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Many people should see it there, so I hope it'll work better than my other ideas so far.--Bishonen | talk 01:50, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Thanks alot you too! As I possibly wrote earlier, as I am an amateur and especially no expert on Bose I will leave the page. At least it seems to have got some changes to the language. Guess I told that it was linked from an article on BBC. Anyway - keep up the good work and will try so myself! Ulflarsen 19:27, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
Of course it's up to you if you prefer to leave the page, but you might be interested to see El C's recent message on Talk:Subhash Chandra Bose.--Bishonen | talk 11:41, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
Well, I certainly hope you will reconsider and choose to stay involved with the article, Ulflarsen. Sorry it took me so long to attend to it, I've been very busy (I remain rather busy), and was pretty much absent from Wikipedia for the last week or so. I realize my approach is a demanding one, but I saw no other way (I know of no better way). At any rate, I find you more than capable to engage the article in a scholarly fashion, and as said, it does need a lot of work. And don't worry about any further incivility towards yourself, I am confident these instances will not reoccur, and if they do, I promise to deal with these myself. El_C 12:52, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
To make that clear, I do not leave due to being harassed. I dont know anything specific about the issue, got into the article by chance, and posted some comments trying to balance what I saw as POV. So I believe its better left to someone that has a knowledge of Bose - whoever that may be, or that can read up on it. I am already into other articles that I have some background in and that I still have to study to write about. Good that you removed the "Famous people..." - wanted to, but kept off as I thought someone could take it as a provocation, as he did meet those people... Ulflarsen 18:13, 24 May 2005 (UTC)


Feel free to replace my ferry picture. It is cropped from a bad picture taken while on vacation and should be replaced if you have anything better. Gustavf 21:35, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Map of LTTE controlled areasEdit

Thank you for your comments. I have added a little yellow line along the approximate route of the Mannar-Vavuniya road to show GOSL control. I have also extended the red areas in Trincomalee south to around Kuchchaveli. Does LTTE control go further than that? I think the GOSL has a large area of control north of the Vavuniya-Trincomalee road, but all the details seem to be secret. Also, I haven't been able to log into commons. Can you upload the map there if you think it will be useful? -- Ponnampalam 16:40, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Good you added the Mannnar-Vavuniya road corridor, but guess its just that; as its heavily guarded with garrisons every few kilometers as I remember. About where the area of firm control goes in the east; I am not sure, and I think its a bit in a flux, the LTTE has strong positions south of Trinco bay - but where their total control ends north of Trinco I really dont know. But they may control a bit more towards Trinco than your map shows. Will see if I can get some info on it.
I can of course add the map to commons, but I would suggest you try add it yourself, as any comments etc then will go directly to you. Be aware of that you need to register at commons to upload, but registering is as easy as on the other wiki sites. But if you dont make it come back and I'll upload it. The commons is a very good resource, I upload all my pics/diagrams there - so it can be shared among the various wikis. Again, you do some good work - the article is much improved, and as far as I can see rather balanced. Ulflarsen 16:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Vote for Deletion on Pol Pot of Tamil EelamEdit

Hello. I've requested deletion of Pol Pot of Tamil Eelam, because it seems clearly NPOV to have it as a title for a redirect. Could you please register your vote on on Wikipedia:Redirects_for_deletion#December_27? -- Ponnampalam 17:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


Thank you for the comments. I have not read the books by Swamy, although I have read reviews about them. The section is partly based on primary observations, some articles in Tamil, and the biographies found at (, That section was primarily to discuss about the cult of personality related to Prabhakaran. In the future, I can add sections covering others aspects about Prabhakaran’s personhood. --Natkeeran 23:08, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, will try to expand the parts I'v read of myself. Ulflarsen 23:57, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
For a pro-Prabhakaran take on this, take a look at Sachi Sri Kantha's [The Pirabaharan Phenomenon]. There are also some interesting (and more neutral) thoughts in The Broken Palmyrah, which is now also available online. There may also be something in Dagmar Hellmann-Rajanayagam's books though I don't remember for sure. I'll try to join in on this article too, but probably only after two or three weeks. -- Ponnampalam 12:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)


I've added a little more information on coercive extraction of money. Hopefully, the article stays well-balanced. Thanks for all your help, and godt nyttår to you. -- Ponnampalam 18:53, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi - all the best to you for the next year as well! Good you write some about that, a friend of mine - former colleague from Jaffna, that I respect a lot says that LTTE is all about money... Ulflarsen 21:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
That is quite important. There was a very important monetary dimension to their elimination of the TELO, for example. The TELO received most of the money from expatriates in the 1980s, and most people believe that the LTTE felt they deserved to get it rather than the TELO. I have difficulty finding sources to substantiate this, so I don't know if it's appropriate to put it in the article on the LTTE, and I don't want it to seem one-sided against them. -- Ponnampalam 18:16, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Good if you check more, let it be a working theory for the moment. In all articles but especially this one facts needs to be put forward to show reality. But from my dealings with the LTTE I have seen that they are very focused on money. Of course any such movement - or state, need funds, but it really seems to govern their strategy - and not the other way around. But again - when that is said, of course the success of the LTTE is also connected to that it has its own resources, and that has proved a sound line. Ulflarsen 18:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

I've written a bit about the TELO, including their conflict with the LTTE. Do you think any of that should also be included into the article about the LTTE? -- Ponnampalam 12:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Will have a look at it and come back to you. By the way I started an article about Black July, good if you can have a look, as it needs to be extended - its just a small beginning. Ulflarsen 13:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Actually, I have asked User:Vadakkan to take a look at the discussion on the LTTE article. He has studied the Sri Lankan conflict and the LTTE, and I think he has also been working on an article on this topic for the Norwegian wikipedia for some time. I hope he should be able to work with Johnathan to produce a neutral article. -- Ponnampalam 21:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Kilinochchi or Killinochchi?Edit

I see you've noded the town under Killinochchi with two l's. I'm more used to seeing it spelt with one l as Kilinochchi, and Google throws up many more hits with one l. Since you've actually worked with the SLMM, does the "official" GoSL spelling use to l's rather than one? -- Arvind 14:39, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

No, he did not work with the SLMM. Ulflarsen is just his username on Wikipedia. Just because he has registered that username does not mean that he is that person in real life. Read impersonator. 11:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I am not sure myself, but I noticed an article where it was written with double l - so what I did was to change that so we dont have to merge two different articles later on. Will try to check if I get the time and possibly do a redirect, or you do if you have the time...? Ulflarsen 14:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
It's written with only one "l" (or rather, one "ள") in Tamil, as "கிளிநொச்சி", so I suspect the English transliteration ought to only have one l. I can check this quite easily, though, so I'll do that and let you know. -- Arvind 21:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Good, fine if you do a change so its corrected. Ulflarsen 21:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
ID card for Ulf Larsen, SLMM - Sri Lanka Monitoring Mission)
Done, Kilinochchi with one l. -- Arvind 22:58, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

No, he did not work with the SLMM. Ulflarsen is just his username on Wikipedia. Just because he has registered that username does not mean that he is that person in real life. Read impersonator. 11:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I worked with the SLMM for one year and can prove that with my SLMM ID card if necessary. My name is also Ulf Larsen and I am a Norwegian citizen, have the same username on Norwegian bokmål Wikipedia and I am an admin there. Ulflarsen 14:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Please prove your claims. -- 14:52, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Have scanned and uploaded my ID card from Sri Lanka. If anyone doubt that the person on the ID card is me I can arrange with one of the stewards to authenticate my ID as well. Ulflarsen 12:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Why did you remove my edit??Edit

what was wrong with my edit?? what was POV about them??

I used the following sources for my edits, mostly with little edits:

Library of Congress - Country Study: Sri Lanka

are you saying that they are wrong??

You made a rather big change to an already established article, without stating any reason for it. I suggest you raise the changes on the discussion page for the article - and then if none disagrees then add it again. And good if you register. Ulflarsen 09:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
the old had nothing to do with pre-history and was the source of many edit wars. I did not completely delete it, I only moved it to the ancient history section, while writting a new prehistory section based on the
Sounds reasonable, so for my part go ahead and change it. Do however add a description in the "Edit summary" - and good if you register yourself as well, takes only a minute and your edit history is easier to follow - and thus more trustworthy. Ulflarsen 09:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Pictures and Erling Dekke NæssEdit

Hello there... (strange writing in English to a Norwegian),

In response to your request on my talk page, I would like to recommend you to read Talk:Framnæs shipyard first. If you search, you can find e-mail adresses on lardex. They might have more relevant pictures than the collection on the lardex web. To find more information about the people behind Lardex, you can also search for lardex in Sandefjords Blad.

Relevant pages I found "in a hurry":

Hope this was a bit help. Great work you have done with Erling Dekke Næss! If you find time, feel most welcome to contribute with Framnæs shipyard as well.

Nordby73 22:26, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

If you find it not possible to use the pictures in Wikipedia, please let me know -as I have uploaded a few myself for Framnæs shipyard. As I understand it, the old pictures (>100 years old) can be used. I'm not sure about the others, but hope and think it's all right due to the e-mail on the talk page of the shipyard. --Nordby73 13:05, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Black JulyEdit

Thank you very much for starting the article and keeping it going. It brought back many memories (uncomfortable though) that I had repressed to get along with life. Hopefully I have made the article more relevant. RaveenS 21:58, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

I am only happy to try my best to expand Wikipedia to the benefit of all of us. For the time being I am doing most of my edits on the Norwegian Wikipedia, but I try to keep an eye on the english one as well. If I see areas that are not covered and I have any knowledge about them I try to research and write something about it. Your contributions to the article are as far as I can see good, and as "Black July " was a watershed in Sri Lanka its good that you can contribute, however hard it may feel for you. Ulflarsen 16:13, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Pearl Harbor ImageEdit

I uploaded the Japanese propaganda image to Wikimedia Commons, same file name as in the original, English article. Cla68 13:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, have been changing/uploading some of the others myself, so the article is pretty much with pics from Commons now. Ulflarsen 14:35, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
As I found your interest in Pearl Harbor as well, I can't help myself: I'm going to Oahu in June, and would like to see stuff at Pearl Harbour. If you are familiar with the topic: anything you would recommend? Is there a museum or similar related to e.g. the attack? Nordby73 20:36, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I am sure there is a museum there, probably several, but dont know what to recommend as I have never been there. My reason for working on the article is that it currently is marked for cleanup on Norwegian Wikipedia, and as there is a run for cleaning up articles I decided to translate it in total, so the mark could be removed. Ulflarsen 20:59, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Tamil TigersEdit

Yeah, that was vandilism now that I think about it more. Sorry for the trouble. The ed17 17:07, 21 April 2006 (UTC) (talk)

OK! The ed17 19:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Picture of Andrew Browne CunninghamEdit

Done. It's available on the commons by the same name -- Image:Andrew Browne Cunningham - Bronze bust at Trafalger Square - London - 240404.jpg. --Tagishsimon (talk) 08:48, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Good, have added the pic of him to the article in Norwegian about him. Ulflarsen 09:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Sinhala Only ActEdit

What happened in 1988 with respect to the Sinhala Only Act? Was it repealed? The existing article refers twice to 1988, but doesn't say what happened. Bejnar 16:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Removal of warning templateEdit

You have removed a warning given to Vadakkan aka Arvind. Can you please explain why? Are you an administrator ?- Ron - 19:32, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

I am not an administrator. The warning was removed because it was on his user page, and that page is generally up to him to edit, not any other person. You left a similar warning on his discussion page and that one I left (although I dont agree in it). Ulflarsen 20:22, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Photo of Samuel PlimsollEdit

Photo uploaded to Commons as requested under name of Image:Memorial_To_Samuel_Plimsoll.jpeg‎ --lonpicman

LTTE Article - CFA confusion.Edit

Sorry, it was my typo that is causing the confusion I meant to type ' thought ' but left out the t thus changing the entire meaning of my comment =) Also I'm not sure if there is a way to edit the 'edit comments'.

Cheers, --Realstarslayer 02:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Archive box on LTTEEdit

I'm sorry I can't be of much help. I don't have Firefox so don't really know what's wrong and thus can't fix it and cannot tell if I have fixed it. There are many users who use Firefox though, so you can ask anyone you know of. If you need anymore help feel free to ask. Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:31, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Answers to Ulflarsen's questions to meEdit


Havent got any resoponse from you so I thought of moving this topic here as the older topic is archived and also you might have missed it as user Realstarslayer have replied for them. I want to know if you read my comments already and ignored them...---RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

We seem to have a problem with the name of the LTTE's leader. Is it Prabhakaran or Prabakharan? The Wikipedia article about the man himself uses the former (but there is a redirect from the latter). We have both forms at various points in the LTTE article itself. I know very little about the conventions of transliterating from Tamil, but maybe somebody can give us a definitive answer? Credmond 01:10, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

In Tamilnet he is mentioned as Velupillai Pirapaharan [1]. In the SLMM website intro to the CFA he is called Velupillai Prabhakaran [2]. BBC uses Velupillai Prabhakaran [3] Ulflarsen 05:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
Traditionally, Tamil names of Sanskrit origin were transcribed into English based on their Sanskrit form. Under this system, his name would be "Prabhakaran". Some nationalists have begun transcribing them into English based on the way they are written in Tamil. That makes it Pirapaharan. Prabhakaran is the most commonly used form, so it's the one this article should use. -- Arvind 21:44, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • You seems to have a problem not only in your leaders name but every detail in this artical.How sure are you that its not "Osama Bin Laden"?--RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Prabhakaran is not my leader. Regarding the article - if you believe it is full of information that is not correct then please forward evidence regarding that, But a lot of the disagreement here connects to various POV (point of view), like labeling the LTTE a terrorist organisation. Even though the LTTE is banned by around 30 countries it does not mean it fits the label. One side is that it is not banned by Sri Lanka itself - as the government's view is that it needs to deal with it. Neither is it on the UN list of terrorist organisations. Last but not least, the LTTE still have a significant support from tamils, both within and outside Sri Lanka.
On the other side, the LTTE has a lot to answer for - and the most vital info regarding that is listed in the article, even information that LTTE supporters do not like to hear (child subscription, murder of Gandhi, forced contributions etc). But still it is in the article, as it shows how the LTTE operates in a manner that is often against human rights. So again - please come forward with your ideas, critique etc so the article can be improved. Ulflarsen 16:15, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
If you look at the talk page this is argued by many users over and over agin pointing out the evidence! It is pointless for me to repeat them again as you have a history of argiung with what you belive is true, wich is POV. "sigh" "the aim of Wikipedia is to produce articles that are as correct as possible, with a focus on neutral point of view - NPOV".you are certainly not honoring this! Wikipedia is a Encyclopedia which propel on facts and not a news media.I hope you will keep this in mind. RavenS 16:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
That a statement has been repeated over and over again does not mean it is true. A lot of the evidence you mention above is just that. Again, if you can forward proof that the LTTE is a terror organisation, like Al-Qaeda I will support you in stating that in the article. The problem is however that there are rather wide differences between the two. Al-Qaeda is actively supressed by US, EU and other countries, while the ban on LTTE more serves to deny the organisation money and to cajole it back to negotiations.
What about Sri Lanka not banning the LTTE? What about that neither EU, India, USA or Japan sends soldiers to Sri Lanka to exterminate the LTTE? Could it have something to do with that the LTTE for sure is a organisation that use terror, but not has terror as its sole aim - as Al-Qaeda and other such organisation seems to have... Or does the fact that Sri Lanka do not ban the LTTE has a connection with that the government knows (as it has repeatedly been told by its foreign supporters, India, EU, USA and Japan), that the current political system in Sri Lanka is not fair - and needs to be changed - so that the LTTE is not the problem itself, but the symptom [4]? When the current president of Sri Lanka, Mahinda Rajapakse does not ban the LTTE as a terrorist organisation - does that mean that he is a supporter of terrorism? Or not a true Sri Lankan patriot - or both? It is very easy to say this and that - but we try to build Wikipedia on facts, so please engage in that. Ulflarsen 17:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC
  • LTTE was a banned rebel group in Sri lanka till 2002. Due to the Cease-fire the ban on them was taken off. It probably will be re-imposed very soon.-RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I doubt that, if the GoSL wants to have even some semblance of being for peace, since you obviously cannot negotiate with a party that you have just banned, which was the original reason for the lifting of the ban.
  • The GOSL have not pleaded for that kind of a help from any of the organizations or countries yet. GOSL still thinks that this is a internal civil issue that can be sorted out internally where they are dead wrong. Your suggestion of getting help from a military of a 3rd country would be the best choice for GOSL now. Peace talks with the LTTE is a laugh!-RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I try to keep abreast of both sides of the issue and a quick read of Lankaweb, which is made up of JVP and JHU type supporters will always show some editorial or opinion peace where they would like to see foreign military involvement, I admit it is conjecture to assume the GoSL also wants this, but many of the hawks in the GoSL are of the same mindset as those found on Lankaweb.
  • There is no similarity with Al-Qaeda and LTTE??? Are you serious here ulflarsen?? Though the LTTE did not invent the terror practice like suicide bombing (that honor goes to Hezbollah) they did perfect it. No terrorist group in the world have mastered suicide bombing like the LTTE and that’s a fact!--RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
There is no similarity, since as Ulf noted above the LTTE are the symptom of the disease. Also no one is negotiating with AQ and no one has a CFA with them either, these things came about because of ground realities, the CFA came about because the GoSL was unable to militarily defeat the LTTE and vice versa, the LTTE also held on to significant areas of land with support from a majority of the populace in those areas, all great differences when compared to AQ.

"Prabhakaran came to the conclusion that a group, which was faced with an enemy having overwhelming military superiority, could inflict maximum damage at minimum cost only through the deployment of suicide bombers."

Are you aware of this or willing to deny that as well? - Or does it sound familiar? It should.!!! It is the same excuse used by supporters of Hezbollah, Hamas, Al-Qaeda, etc. I am even surprised that you raised a question like this!!!!
I don't think anyone is denying this, this is the stated fact so I'm not sure what your point is, sucide bombers are used to balance the greater military might of the GoSL.
The point was to show UlfLarsen the similarity between the LTTE, Hezbollah and other terrorist groups.--RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
  • If the current political system is not fare, the solution is to change the government! Genocide of Sinhala people is not going to work. Plus GOSL invites the LTTE to come forward as a democratic party, they can very well use this offer and change the government byt they boy cot it! have you raised the question as to why? Well the answer is very simple because they are terrorists! By what the LTTE have done so far the tamil people themselves have lost faith in the LTTE and does not accept the LTTE as a responsible political leader. The LTTE now has no option but to keep fighting.-RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Now this is laughable, the Tamils had no say in the GoSL even before the LTTE, since the Sinhala majority created an environment where they could perpetuate control over the government and laws of the land, this is fact not opinion [5]. This is what the international community refers to as the need for drastic political changes, this can only be done by the government in power, the Tamils do not have enough political power to enact any changes, this was seen clearly in even trying to get minor deals such as P-TOMS passed.
  • Yeah its very easy to say this and that by being out of Sri Lanka, like you and me. Go there and see the real picture. Go to the poor villages like vavunia and ampara and many other places that the LTTE have murdered civilians and ask those people what the LTTE do.--RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
I could ask you the same thing, I'm pretty sure the hundreds of thousands of Tamil civilians living as IDPs are not having a rosey time of it either. Besides Ulf has actually been there, a claim that I cannot make and it seems you neither, so going by your own statement we should take his word over yours.
  • LTTE is a terrorist group, they use suicide bombing, they kill innocent civilians, they use axes and swards to kill innocent people are all facts. They practice sporadical mass murders like Pettah bombing, Dehiwala train bombing and frequent innocent civilian murders and genocide of Sinhala which they deny! Proof - right there’s no proof, because the LTTE are the masters of liars as well. At least Osama Bin Laden makes a clean breast that he will kill all Americans and drain our money. But the LTTE denies what they do, makes up stories and maneuvers the listeners and readers to get the sympathy of the international community and the support of the entire Tamil family which I feel is an extremely cowardly act. Wikipedia is based on facts not fantasies, sadly its not honored here. It is surprising to know that the wikipedia editors are closing their eyes on this by allowing deviation to their policies!!!-----RavenS 02:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
And this is your POV and you are perfectly entitled to it, however you cannot use that as the basis for a factual encyclopedia. Responses in-line by me.--Realstarslayer 03:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Realstarlayer, this is not my POV they are facts:

I guess this would be disputed as well -- RavenS 05:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

I enjoyed your comments but my response was for Ulf Larsen and his questions to me! I await his response. By the way are you the same person??? I realized that users in this page are playing games with two three user names?---RavenS 04:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes I realize they were for Ulf, but I wanted to address some of them myself. I'm sure he will reply as well if he wants to. Also what do you mean am I the same user? You mean Ulf? No I am not obviously??? Also not sure what you mean about users playing games with names? I know there have been a few anonymous users doing silly things but everyone else is who they say they are?--Realstarslayer 05:19, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

O.K. one more time.If you look at the talk page this is argued by many users over and over agin pointing out the evidence! (Stating and arguing are two different things). So it is pointless for me to repeat them again as YOU have a history of argiung with what YOU belive is true, which is POV. "sigh" "the aim of Wikipedia is to produce articles that are as correct as possible, with a focus on neutral point of view - NPOV".you are certainly not honoring this! Wikipedia is a Encyclopedia which propel on facts and not a news media.I hope you will keep this in mind. RavenS 16:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC

I asked you several questions and you dont seem to bother to answer them. So one more time, why is LTTE not banned by Sri Lanka? How come president Mahinda Rajapakse still want to discuss with what you call a terrorist organisation? What about the departing US ambassador's comments - as I left a link above? And what about all the information in the article regarding facts that are negative to the LTTE? Does that have any value? Does that help to give a NPOV article? I challenge you to engage in this article - to develop it! Ulflarsen 20:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

ulflarsen, I have added the comments to your questions, If your challenging me to engage in this artical you have to have a NPOV 1st. Whithout you having that dont invite others to join in as a team. Because that a waist of their time since you keep reverting them to what you feel like is true or beleiving what you are being told. ( probably by your friends Vadakkan aka Arvind, Super-Real star layer , etc - this was a assumption now) One last question - Do you have any Sinhala friends?-----RavenS 02:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Dear RavenS you are not adding much credibility to your accusations by your behaviour, baseless attacks against Mr. Larsen and ‘drive by’ critiques of the article certainly do not display a NPOV on your part. If you feel there is something wrong with the article please point them out and offer your corrections with facts to back them up. If you cannot then it seems rather hypocritical for you to be going on about NPOV. As for earlier discussion here if you read them all you will see that all questions have been answered with appropriate facts and changes that were required have been made with no favoritism being displayed for one side or the other. --Realstarslayer 04:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Comments added ----RavenS 02:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

User:RavenS is NOT User:RaveenS. Looks like an attempt at user name misuse. RaveenS 20:11, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

You have a goofy imagination!My name is Raven Sears. Born to a American father and a Sri lankan mother.Do you have a problem with that? Besides this is the 1st time I've seen Raven spelled with 2 E's. You should check the spellings of you name-----RavenS 02:54, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for your commitment to WP:NPOV regarding the LTTE article. Addhoc 12:16, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I was really just trying to get back a sane intro... And thanks for your efforts in the article! Ulflarsen 12:56, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

LTTE Military SectionEdit

I believe the LTTE military section is highly lacking to say the least (currently its just 5 lines). There is lots of info on this subject and it puzzles me why its not included/referenced here. You had I believe expressed intrest in working on this or subjects simillar in the past, if I am not mistaken. As a first step, I propose chalking out an outline for the subsection and what needs to be included. Anyone with a military background, such as yourself should have a great deal of say on this. As a comparison Kargil War page seems to be something close to a gold standard and was a featured article a while back. Trincomanb 14:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

My area is the sea, and I started the article about the Sea Tigers, I also started the article about the Black Tigers and I have placed several of my pictures in there. As I know the LTTE is basically land and sea forces, their airforce is very small, just a few small planes and the rest is probably AA units. The most interesting regarding the LTTE as a fighting force is their morale, their imagination in using "off the shelf equipment" and their use of asymetric warfare. But I really think I have contributed what I have. Posted a link some time ago with a summary of forces from a newsarticle, but that link seems to have been lost in the fray. Ulflarsen 08:11, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Disruption to LTTE articleEdit

Hi, thanks for reverting the last edit at LTTE, I've reported TamilLand at WP:ANI to be blocked . Addhoc 13:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I did the same, he is the last thing that article needs really - never even engaging in any discussion or commenting on his talkpage. Keep up the good work! Ulflarsen 13:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

White BusesEdit

Hi, You might like to see my comments at Talk:White Buses. --Zerotalk 12:25, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Talk page at Zero0000Edit

Before you go into shoot-em-up mode, try watching what you're doing on user talk pages. Here's the diff you did: [6] - you edited out my comments! Basically don't come it with the arrogant attitude on my talk page without checking your facts. I will be keeping an eye on your future edits. MarkThomas 11:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

If you look at the difference between my edit and yours - then my comments was deleted. [7]. You may have done so accidentally, but none the less it is neither polite or professional to do such an edit on a users talkpage. So again - dont do that again. Ulflarsen 15:07, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
You are in serious need of a politeness read-up Ulflarsen. MarkThomas 15:09, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Is it your opinion that you did not remove my edit? If so - what do you suggest happened? I have been using Wikipedia for over two years, this is actually the first time I have encountered something like this. Ulflarsen 15:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Iron CurtainEdit

First, I thank you for your service in BiH. I'll have a .svg version in a few days. One thing I would like to ask you, if you do not mind, from a perspective as a soldier who served in Bh, do you think the world could have done more?

Thanks and greetings from Chicago, Kseferovic 20:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Regarding if the world could have done more, absolutely - but then what and when. I can recommend a book by William Shawcross, "Deliver us From Evil, Peacekeepers, Warlords and a World of Endless Conflict", ISBN 0-7432-0028-4 - at least I learned a lot from it. I think one huge mistake from the international community was to initially promise more that it was willing to keep. If you make plans and then the basis for the plan is not solid, then you have a problem. Like the "safe havens" - not that safe when the trouble started.
So I absolutely believe the world could have done more, and at the same time I think about what a needless tragedy it was - now ten years after the countries of ex-Yugoslavia is well on their way to be reunited under the EU umbrella. With a little foresight most would have seen that coming in 1990 - and yet noe one seemed to be able to act according to it. But - I was only a small wheel in that huge machinery, and these are only my private thoughts about it... Ulflarsen 20:46, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Interesting, thank you for your perspective. Here, I finished the map. Image:Iron Curtain Final.svg. I created a vector file (.svg), if you are not familiar with it, vector files enable a person to enlarge an image without adding to many enlarged pixels, as other files (.jpg, .gif, etc.) would. I used a transparent background.
I find it interesting that the Scandinavian countries (Denmark, Norway, and Sweden) accepted the Bosnian immigrants like no one else. They were given help and even temporary homes to live in until they got on their feet. Compared to Germany, it can almost be referred to as unbelievable, since Germany did offer many large possibilities. Thanks, Kseferovic 22:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thanks a lot for the revised map - have added it to the norwegian article about the iron curtain. Regarding refugees from Bosnia, one should help if one can - and historically, from world war 2 there are connections with Yugoslavia - there was a lot of prisoners forced by the germans to work on fortifications etc in Norway that the local populations got to know and tried to help. And the bosnians here have fitted well into our society.

I have another map problem, I would be interested in hearing if you could spare some time for it:$file/Karta.pdf

It is a map of the transports with the White Buses relief effort. I have written the original article in Norwegian and I am now translating it into English. Would be nice to have a good map of the transporst, possibly also showing Germany with neighboring countries, and maybe also showing approximate remaining size of Nazi Germany - as that was the area the expedition had to move within, a area rapidly shrinking in the spring of 1945. If you have interest and time it would be useful for the article - and if so it would be best just to have names on it so it could be used across language versions of the article. Ulflarsen 09:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

No problem, I'll see what I can do in the next day or two. Just tell me this; you want an exact copy in a better quality with neighboring countries to the sides or another enlargement of Europe with Germany in the center. Just be more specific and I'll do it. Greetings Kseferovic 02:46, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
What I am thinking of is more of the last, Germany in the center with the bordering countries around it, will make it easyer for the one's who are not familiar with the area to see where it all happens. If you somehow could indicate the advancing allied forces - both to east and west, that would be nice - but not a must, it would however show the problems the expedition had of working within a rapidly shrinking space. Thanks a lot! Ulflarsen 05:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


You are free to upload or download my maps in any way or to any place you please. Adam 14:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, will place the map on Commons now. Ulflarsen 14:55, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Italo-Turkish WarEdit

Hat de bra! Thank you for, it's a good idea but I think that commons won't accept such an image. As you see, the copyright status is makred as "uncertain" also here. Let me know and good work! --Attilios 07:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, but since the picture is almost 100 years old, the limit is 70 years after the photographer died, as far as I know - do you know who took it? Where it came from? If you find any picture related to the war it would be good if you let me know and give me a link if you upload it to Commons. Cheers! Ulflarsen 12:19, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Image:LTTE bike platoon north of Killinochini may 2004.jpgEdit

Hello, i heard, this image ist from you. Excuse please, my english is very bad. In the german Wikipedia I'm Ralf. I'd like to use your Photo at my private homepage, where i have many about bicycles. Where do you take this Photo? Which Army is this? What ist LTTE? thank you Ralf 19:22, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

I have seen, what the LTTE is (in the german Wikipedia) - this is the Answer of my questions. I have linke you in my Impressium (your user-site here) - is this ok so? -- 19:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem, do feel free to use the picture... :-) Nice to hear you found it of interest. Best regards! Ulflarsen 23:17, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

You should however give credit to Wikipedia, just add a line under the picture saying something like "Picture from Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia". Best regards. Ulflarsen 06:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
So i have done this - regards Ralf -- 09:43, 30 October 2006 (UTC)


Hei, Ulf Eg har lagt igjen ein kommentar på diskusjonssida til artikkelen Nortraship, men eg tenkte eg skulle ta kontakt her òg. (Eg skriv norsk fordi det er greiast og fordi eg ikkje reknar med dette er interesant for andre). Eg nominerte artikkelen til såkalt Good article status fordi eg meiner den meir enn møter krava til det. Kanskje burde eg ha latt deg ta den avgjerlsa, men eg trur det er vel så vanleg at andre enn hovudforfattaren nominerer artiklar. Eg har prøvd denne metoden eit par gongar og tykkjer vel at resultatet er så som så. Nokre gonger er tilbakemeldingane gode og til stor hjelp, og det kan føre til at andre kjem til for å hjelpe med å skrive artikkelen. Som du ser med Nortraship er det ikkje ei gruppe mennesker som avgjer om ein artikkel når opp eller ikkje, men ein enkelt brukar i kvart tilfelle så det blir nokså subjektivt. At denne personen meinte artikkelen ikkje nådde opp på bakrunn av dei tilbakemeldingane han gav er ganske irriterande, ja. Eg såg reaksjonen din på diskusjonssida og forstår den godt, men eg vil oppmode deg om å fortsette med å skrive på Wikipedia av di bidraga dine er gode og på eit område som elles vil vere lite omtala. Inge 14:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Hei, vil fortsette å skrive, men ble litt oppgitt - håper jeg ikke var for usaklig. Men syns tilbakemeldingen var meget standardisert, endel av det han skrev kan passe på vanlige artikler men er ikke så lett å få til på en slik artikkel. Uansett, fortsetter å skrive når jeg har tid, har enda en god del igjen på Nortraship. Ulflarsen 10:09, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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Spion Kop PhotosEdit


Hi Ulf, I'm sorry replying so late! Yep, I've uploaded that photo to wikicommons, and you can use it however you like:) Sorry again for the delay! Romtobbi

LTTE mediationEdit

Mediation about this article will resume in half an hour. See Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-10-20 Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam. Sorry about the late notice. I don't know why it didn't occur to me earlier to write to earlier participants in the talk page. I really like your argument on on Talk:Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam#Current points of contention. — Sebastian 21:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


Hi, Any comments you would like to make on Folke Bernadotte/temp would be welcome. --Zerotalk 10:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Neutral coverage of the Sri Lanka crisisEdit

I love the idea of a WikiProject for neutral coverage of the Sri Lanka crisis. There already exists such a project, Wikipedia:WikiProject NCSLC, and I'm considering joining it. This would be an ideal forum to discuss issues of general interest, such as User:SebastianHelm/Sri Lanka#Recommended guideline for editing Sri Lanka conflict related articles. So far, I have hesitated because I wasn't sure if it would be perceived as being neutral, since the member list seemed to have some bias. However, if you could join, too, then I think we can really improve things there together. Please reply on User talk:SebastianHelm/Sri Lanka#Wikipedia:WikiProject NCSLC. Thanks! — Sebastian 18:58, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

LTTE Drug TrafficingEdit

I have you reverted some edits saying its a bogus reference, in fact it is not, I think you missed to read the entire reference article. Anyway I agree that the particular reference is not credible enough, so I have added an additional reference from the U.S Drug Enforcement Administration. ŇëŧΜǒńğëŗPeace Talks 11:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Have answered on the discussion page for the LTTE article. Ulflarsen 13:13, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Your message in my talk pageEdit

As you may have noticed although I am an active Sri Lankan specific editor, I keep away from main articles such as Sri Lanka and LTTE, because my rationale is that the wider Wikipedian community should have a stake in maintaining these articles neutral. If like you say, Sinhala chauvinists are turning them into a non neutral article, first the article becomes useless as a learning tool for serious researchers and second Wikipedia looses its credibility because of the actions of editors who take this as a battlefield. There are ways to deal with it and it is called conflict resolution and removal of disruptive editors. There is a limit to Wikipedia community’s patience. If you think vandalism and disregard to wiki rules are rampant amongst some misguided Wikipedians then we have to take them to task for it. I am all for it rather than to edit war on the LTTE article. I will leave that to neutral editors like you. Thanks RaveenS 19:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Isn't it wonderful (sarcasm)Edit

Ulflarsen, the LTTE article and many such articles look ridiculous now. They are so fantasized that they really sound like SL Govt's propaganda ministry on the web. For all that hard work you put in for years... look where it has come, its gone up in flames... Just like Norway's role in SL peace process. You are very correct in saying this plays well for the LTTE. This continues to show, what freedom of speech and democracy means Sinhala style - it means continued whole scale murdering of innocent Tamils (should I suggest genocide ?) and drowning of any semblance of truth, dignity and everything Westerners take for granted. Wonder why there is not much resistance on Eelam conflict related articles anymore from Tamils? Cuz, as Sinhala merry men rampage these articles, we have been busy ridiculing wikipedia and its cult following. Wikipedia is getting increasingly banned by universities and other scholarly centres... This just adds insult to injury...Looking who is laughing now :)

I believe that this will change, sooner or later, somehow. I do however not think it is useful for me to engage in revertwars and/or wasting time on arbitration. As for the Sinhalese crushing the LTTE - I would not cry over that, as my impression of the LTTE is that of a group close to fascism and against democracy. However - no one that knows the LTTE count them out and neither do I, I basically believe it is not possible to solve the conflict militarily. It may however take some years and more bloodshed before the parties; the Sinhala south and the LTTE realize that. I will keep on working on Sri Lanka related articles on norwegian wikipedia as we have a functioning editorial system there. Best regards to you!
Ulflarsen what is an indication of the lack of willingness to constructively engage with the Wikipedia process (i.e follow the rule of law)is the status of the Velupillai Prabhakaran page. Why cant all the taggers spent some time to create a neutral article so that wikipedia gains some credibility when someone looks at it. Infact the state of the article looks like bunch of hen scratching. Someone should take notice of this collective and organized (may be government) attempt at giving wikipedia a bloody nose when it deserves all the praise for attempting bring humanity together at a common task of creating knowledge. Wikipedia's reputation is more importance than any article's reputation. This is an attack on Wikipedia itself in my opinion when neutral editors like you are pushed aside by POV pushers RaveenS 02:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
At least the article is taqgged by varios tags showing it's not NPOV - alas that is not the case with the LTTE article for the time being. Anyway, I believe this and several other problems with wikipedia will be solved over time. The best cure for the very few contested articles is in my view to lock them up and select a group that can edit it on basis of input. Until that I think my time is best spent on other, not contested articles. Ulflarsen 06:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
See here64.201.162.1 14:35, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your revert on the LTTE articleEdit

Hi, I saw your revert of the removal of Alledged links to other terrorist organisations [8]. Just for your information, I can not see that there is much in that section. I have however given up on the article as it is more or less taken over by partisan editors. But since there is not much to that section you should expect more reverting edits. I dont want to spend more time on that article that I have, so I keep to the Norwegian version, but the article is not NPOV as it stands now - you may see my comments on the article's discussion page. Ulflarsen 16:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ulflarsen, my revert was done blindly as I noticed a new user by the name of Wrasanga (talk contribs) had just performed mass deletions without explaining them in his edit summaries or on the article's talk page. I have no background knowledge regarding the LTTE beyond whatever I have seen covered by the BBC News and Time Magazine so my revert should not be a considered an endorsement of the article's current state. Thanks. --  Netsnipe  ►  16:50, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
I understood that you reacted to the magnitude of the edit; and my comment was just to prepare you for that there will most probably be more. The edit made by that contributor was not very wise, as he should have discussed it on the article's discussion page - so nothing wrong about your revert - on the basis of the information you had it was correct. The article itself alas, is far from correct and NPOV. Best regards - Ulflarsen 17:40, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Neutrality of LTTE articleEdit

We have opened a problem resolution section on neutrality of the article see here. There are ways to make the article more neutral, your input will be appreciated in SLR discussion page as to how to proceed further Taprobanus 15:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

The problem with the LTTE article is that it has been taken over by one side of the conflict, that means it is not POV. The same side refuse to accept arguments (common when you have a bias) as you may see from my last comments on the page. And I assume the same persons will be in the discussions on if the article should be POV or not.
I would be happy if someone with a balanced view took this task, but life is short and I have better use for my limited time. And as it does not seem that any admin care much about it I am not the one to worry either. But there is no doubt that the article is POV, there are information there about LTTE that is really not proven; and that the link to SVIK still is not removed is simply a joke, SVIK.ORG is a one-man setup by a person that is mentally ill.
I guess that the article will stay as it is until there is a scandal like some of the others that have bitten Wikipedia the last year; then someone will check it and remove the one-sided content. Ulflarsen 18:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
We shouldn’t give up for the sake of Wikipedia not for LTTE article. What we have done is just one item, that is we discussed it as to whether it is neutral or not. Normal and neutral people can see it is not a neutral article but others disagree. Now what we need to do next, we take it to RFC and post it there. Wait for someone to respond. If not I think we have a neutrality project somewhere where we can ask for opinion. If not we take it to ANI or in SLR we have an admin who is a member. User:Lexicon. You can ask him for opinion. He has already resolved in intractable problem and he is onto another, so this will be just another. We need neutral people like you to lead it. Thanks Taprobanus 21:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

SLMM related PhD DissertationEdit

My friend is conducting disseration research on the SLMM and has been trying to get in contact with former monitors. I was hoping you might be willing to contact him at:

Ernest Rockwell, Department of Scandinavian Studies, University of Wisconsin,

Thank you for your consideration in this matter. --King ravana 12:13, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I sent him an e-mail. Ulflarsen 14:50, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

The LTTE article is not based on good sourcesEdit

Hi, I am trying to get some interest to the article about LTTE. The problem is that part of the article is not based on good sources and/or the sources are used for more than what they actually state when you read them. I have tried to work it out on the article's discussion page, alas in vain - as it in my opinion more or less has been taken over by one side in the conflict.

I have also posted a message about it on the Village pump and I have placed a 100 USD bounty for anyone who put in some serious work on it. I passed by your userpage and thought I may give you a word about it as well. My critic of the current state of the article can be read on it's discussion page. Ulflarsen 09:35, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Hi Ulflarsen. I'll deal w/ that w/in 24h. You can refer to Chemical weapons in the Rif War to have an idea about how to use good sources especially for big claims. I'll come back to you very soon. Cheers. -- FayssalF - Wiki me up® 09:40, 15 May 2007 (UTC)


I read some of your comments regarding Sri Lanka.

I respect your indepth understanding of the conflict.

I think you understand the conflict better than most Sri Lankans do.

Thank You for your efforts to help build peace in Sri Lanka.

I respect you and your country of Norway.

Personal e-mailsEdit

There was a recent Arbcom finding that personal e-mails are not be shared in public. Please you should have followed Wikiprocess and connected with admins only in private, because a valuable editor like you may be banned because of this. Please never ever make this mistake because we need you here. Thanks Taprobanus 15:01, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I got this mail which I do not know from who it is, and I reported it (that is mailed it on to the admin involved with the LTTE page for the moment. He retorted that he had not received it and I then found I just as well could place it on the talk page to the article as the content (whoever is behing it) is a blatant violation on the rules here.
If this is against the rules I am most happy to leave enwiki to those who respect such rules (keeping emails received from people I do not know the ID of, and do not reveal it, and try to involve me in breaking one of the main rules here). So you have my full support in giving me a permanent block for this. Ulflarsen 15:12, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
I was sorry to see your leaving message pop up on my watchlist, Ulf. You're a valuable editor. Bishonen | talk 19:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC).
I think he is over reacting, I am on his side not against him. He was and probbaly will be the only sane voice in the LTTE article. I am sure he will be back. Those who are addicted to wikipedia cannot leave that easy :)))Taprobanus 15:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcome back!Edit

Yep. Good to see you. :-) Bishonen | talk 14:54, 25 August 2007 (UTC).

I found out that it is not useful to keep away from enwiki as I need to insert interwikilinks on articles I translate into Norwegian. Apart from that I will keep away from controversial articles like the one's about Sri Lanka. The system is not working and I am not in a position to fix it. So better keep to what works and stay away from the rest. Ulflarsen 17:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
I think the system is working again - you can come back safely! See WT:SLR. — Sebastian 19:54, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I spend almost all my time on the Norwegian bokmål/riksmålswikipedia and I do not think I will engage much here on enwiki except from adding interwiki links and doing small corrections on articles that are not controversial. Ulflarsen (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
OK, I'm sure you're helpful wherever you are. You know that you're always welcome here!
Speaking of Norwegian, I have an unrelated question: The article Surge (to which I got through the Sri Lankan saying "holding grass while going with surge") says it's urge in Norwegian. Does that have any meaning in Norwegian, or why would they not use "surge"? — Sebastian 16:09, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I don't know of any specific meaning of "urge" in Norwegian, so I guess it's just something that was made up by the company... Ulflarsen (talk) 13:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Parks in OsloEdit

Jeg har oversatt det jeg har kunnet av artikkelen. Den er jo veldig interessant, og jeg la merke til at den vant konkurransen i Et par ting jeg lurer på:

  • Det er en muligens nyttig funksjon (template) i Wikipedia som heter {{convert}} som vi kan bruke til flateareal. Jeg skal sjekke om den støtter mål, men om den ikke gjør det bør vi kanskje bli enige om hvilke mål vi skal bruke.
  • Likeledes vil det kanskje være bedre å bruke {{coord}} enn å ha lenke til kartet, for da kan jo lesere velge om de vil se det i Wikimapia, live, osv. --Leifern (talk) 15:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Grunnen til at jeg begynte å oversette den var at den vant artikkelkonkurransen, syns Helge Høifødt har gjort et solid arbeid som bør kunne leses av flere enn kun de som behersker norsk. Når det gjelder flatemål vet du sikkert bedre hva som er kurant å bruke. Når det gjelder kartlenker så har jeg nevnt under diskusjonen ifm gjennomgang til anbefalt/utmerket at jeg ikke er så veldig happy med lenkene til gulesider, de blir veldig lange - blir også noe griseri ifm utskriving. Men ifølge hovedbidragsyter er det vel det beste han kunne finne, om en skal gå rett på et kart. Sist men ikke minst, jeg har begynt å oversette den fordi ingen andre tok utfordringen. Min norsk til engelsk er imidlertid ikke så mye å skryte av, så om du kan være interessert i å overta så er jeg mer enn åpen for det. Hvis ikke så håper jeg du kan se innom fra tid til annen etterhvert som arbeidet forhåpentligvis skrider fremover. mvh - Ulflarsen (talk) 15:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I have made a few corrections to the article. Chris the speller (talk) 18:01, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks a lot for your help! Ulflarsen (talk) 18:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Ingar SkaugEdit

Hi, I've restored the article. You will see it isn't very descriptive. Hopefully you can expand on it. There is a prod tag on it just in case you don't get around to doing it. Please remove it as part of your improvement. Thanks for offering to improve it, Mallanox 22:03, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, will fix it tomorrow! Ulflarsen (talk) 21:45, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Dharavi ImageEdit

I found this Image:Two boys in Dharavi.jpg. I think this might be suited for Dharavi's demography section. Also, I found a lot many images on flickr which are completely compatible with commons. You upload them using some bot.

Hi, thanks a lot! Will start with including the pic of the two boys. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Iwiki mistakeEdit

Not en: [9]. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, fixed it. Best regards - Ulflarsen (talk) 17:07, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Check out battle of TehumardiEdit

Check this out, battle of Tehumardi. Falk74 (talk) 09:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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Berne convention (1906)Edit

Well done on this much-needed article! Do you know why the USA didn't sign? When did they? Have they yet? Is it in the Emsley book? I was going to get that to try to find out but you have saved me the trouble.Cutler (talk) 22:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I dont know why USA did not sign, if they did or have yet. Guess it's all in the Emsley book. I wrote the article while helping to expand the article about London matchgirls strike of 1888 which now is a Good Article in Norwegian bokmål/riksmålswikipedia. The article about the Berne convention 1906 could probably need to be expanded so if you have access to a library with the Emsley book you are most welcome to do it. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 06:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Inter-Services IntelligenceEdit

Thanks for your message. I've added the interwiki link as requested - if you have a moment can you check and let me know if it works? Euryalus (talk) 11:38, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for reminding me about those two maps I drew almost a year ago,   and  . I'll upload them to Commons after I'll make some adjustments. That will take no more than 30 minutes.

Andrei nacu (talk) 19:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

The map is now on Commons under this name> Image:Revolax battle.svg

Regards, Andrei nacu (talk) 20:28, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Great map, hope you will keep on drawing - could use some more for that campaign. Best regards - Ulflarsen (talk) 21:43, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I'll draw a map of the Battle of Oravais at the end of this week, when I'll have more time. Thanks for the materials you've sent me. Andrei nacu (talk) 19:42, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 21:42, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

For your translation work. Very thoughtful of you to leave a note at Awadewit's user talk, also. Had to congratulate you both at my blog.[10] By all means, keep up the good work. Cheers! DurovaCharge! 22:36, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the message. As you know we dont usually get so much good feedback on articles and so I thought she might appreciate to hear that the article made the front page. And if I manage to pull myself together I will try to translate more of her very good articles. Ulflarsen (talk) 23:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


I ran across a couple of the photo's you've given us while you were on the SLMM. Its that kind of contribution that makes Wikipedia amazing. Thank you.--Tznkai (talk) 15:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, nice to hear they are seen. I am not a photographer, but I had the chance to shoot some pics and so I uploaded the one's I thought most relevant for Wikipedia. Ulflarsen (talk) 15:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Name of David J. C. MacKayEdit

Thanks for your recent message. You can see MacKay's full name on the list of fellows of Darwin College, published in the Cambridge University Reporter. Gareth Jones (talk) 21:47, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Vector (biology)Edit

  • This article has more than one subject, and may be converted to a disambiguation page. I moved your interwiki to Vector (disease). I hope I understood the subject of no:Smittebærer correctly. --Abanima (talk) 20:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

That's ok. Ulflarsen (talk) 04:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

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An irrelevant observation about your comment at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-06-28/News and notesEdit

From your brief biography on your user page, is it fair to assume that English is not your native language? I ask this because in your second comment at this page, you made a mistake only native speakers of English tend to make: confusing "your" & "you're". I guess if you make a mistake that even allegedly fluent speakers of English make, it is proof that your English is fluent. ;-) -- llywrch (talk) 21:33, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I am Norwegian and did not start to learn English before age 10, and as I never went to what at that time was called "Gymnas", my English knowledge is mainly from reading it. Maybe I just read too much English...? :-) Thanks for your observation anyway - I have long thought that I still have a lot to learn regarding the English language. Ulflarsen (talk) 21:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

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"Edit patterns" on Norwegian wikipedia.Edit

I am wondering if Norwegian wikipedia has observed if my "edit pattern" corresponds to that of user:Sju hav? (And please feel free to contact user:Sju hav, on his talk page.)

As you know, my user account(bruker:spøkelse) has been banned on Norwegian wikipedia. (Indefinetely?) But that for me is less important, than "the overall good". And your edits on your user page yesterday, make me think that you are a catalyst for change, pertaining to the way "things always have been done" on wiki-norw.

A propos, what are the 3 most important Norwegian articles, that ought to have interwiki, in your opinion?

--Spøkelse (talk) 04:48, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Om du er mest opptatt av fellesnytten så er det svært gode muligheter for å gjøre noe ved å bidra konstruktivt på Wikipedia, både på bokmål/riksmål og andre språkversjoner. Det er bare å registrere seg og bidra konstruktivt, ikke mer komplisert enn det. Ulflarsen (talk) 19:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

"Black site" on Norwegian wikipediaEdit

The Norwegian article about black site, has been deleted on Norwegian wikipedia, without being nominated for deletion. (The text of the article is on user Jeblad's Norwegian page. Minus the one reference, that was added to the article.) The article stood for about 27 hours, and received no negative feedback.

Could you please ask that one of the administrators, can undelete the article (that has been deleted on the whim of an administrator)?-- (talk) 11:40, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Dette er Wikipedia, om du er interessert i det så kan du selv legge en melding til administratorene. Ulflarsen (talk) 17:03, 30 March 2011 (UTC)


Im ready to translate in to Russian --Ladyinred19 (talk) 12:45, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Norwegian medal for foreign soldiersEdit

Hello Ulflarsen ! I am a french-speaking belgian contributor to FR-Wikipedia but also speeks english. What kind of informations are you looking for ? In the french entry, there is a mention about polish soldiers who received that norwegian medal. Did you contact the Polish-wikipedia ? My Talk page. Cheers. Thib Phil (talk) 19:45, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, nice to hear from you regarding this matter! :-) We have a kind of mini "project space" on the discussion page for the list of medal recipients. There all the missing biographies are listed. Most all of us read English, so it is no problem with posting in English there. I contacted Wikimedia Poland and they put me in contact with one contributor that is now working on the lacking Polish recipients. What we hope for help with now is with the French and British recipients. I have also posted a message regarding this on the Military project page, so hopefully after some time all missing biographies will be written. Once again thanks for your interest in this matter! :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 14:34, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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List of Norway's military's participation in operations abroadEdit

You have asked for an English translation of the article in Norwegian, "Liste over norske militære bidrag i utenlandsoperasjoner etter 1945".

List of Norway's military's participation in operations abroad?

The article needs a title and a table.

The table of the Norwegian article is divided into:

  • Abbreviatons
  • Full name, explanation
  • Mandate, oppdragsgiver (the entity that has requested the mission)
  • Area (theater) of operations
  • What year(s) of Norway's participation
  • Number of Norwegian personell

I can do much of the work, including filling in the table. Provided that a table is started somehow.

(After this article, there is also a possibility for a List of Norway's military installations or List of Norway's military bases. There is no reason why one of these articles can not be created before the Norwegian wikipedias get going on this.) --Candygale (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi, if you translate it I can place the total article here on English language Wikipedia, table and all, and then you just need to translate it all. Just leave a message if this sounds ok and I will copy the whole content over. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 18:46, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!Edit

I love you! I'm your biggest fan! Your articles are really good!

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This was more than I could hope for. What shall I say, but thank you! :-) Your Wolfman! Ulflarsen (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Because beer is expensive in Norway....Edit

  Good to hear that you met Jon the other day. I didn't realise you were in the Norwegian Navy too - we should try and meet up some time! The Cavalry (Message me) 11:18, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
P32 Selis, previously KNM Skudd of the Royal Norwegian Navy
Hi, it was really interesting to talk with Jon as we in Norway still only have volunteers, so information regarding how other chapters work is highly appreciated. I was in the Royal Norwegian Navy from 1976 to 1978, after officer's training I spent most of my time on KNM Skudd, guess my "claim to fame" or my "15 minutes of fame" is that I was XO, the same position on the same vessel was filled by our crown prince Haakon 20 years after me... :-) I am open for meeting so leave me a message if you are around Oslo.
I am also looking for help in the UK regarding this list of people lacking biographies, any help much appreciated. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 11:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

But perhaps you prefer thisEdit

Thanks for coming to meet me on Monday. Hadn't realised what an interesting life you had led in the past. Talk more next time.

Jon Davies WMUK (talk) 11:28, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

It was really interesting and useful to hear about how your chapter works, we need more information about this to be ready when we have the needed funds to employ people with working to support the voluntary contributors. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 12:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

re:Kai HolstEdit

Hi Ulf. Sure, I'll have a look at it, once you're done translating and referencing. Manxruler (talk) 20:47, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

I see you started expanding the article at 8 June. If an article is expanded fivefold within five days, it can be nominated to DYK, and thus get on the front page. According to my calculations this would mean the article must be more than 18455 bytes. by 13 June. I will nominate the article for you if you are able to expand it further within 13 June; it's an interesting article, so it would be very fine to have it on the mainpage. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 17:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but no way it is possible, there is a lot of copy edit to be done + I need to add the references. If I had thought about it before I started it I may have done the translation off-line so uploading all at once. I just have to remember that to some other time. Best regards. :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 19:38, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
I'll get on it probably tonight. Manxruler (talk) 17:04, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 20:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
Okay. I've been through the article a couple times now. My main concerns are that at quite a few times I just do not understand the meaning of the text (I've tagged those bits for clarification) and that the latter parts of the text smells a little of original research, the people whose statements are in the article should be clearly presented, including in the notes. The lengthy notes with, at times indecipherable, translations, also bother me somewhat. Manxruler (talk) 23:31, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for using time on it. I hoped that someone fluent in English would take the job of translating it from Norwegian, alas that did not happen, so I thought I better do it even though I am not that good in translating. I will comment on the rest on the article discussion page. Best regards. :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 17:39, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for providing the original language texts. I'll have a look at them in a little while. Manxruler (talk) 19:08, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi again, Ulf. I can now confirm that most of the clarification issues stem from language issues. It would have been possible to give the quotes in Norwegian, rather than English, you know. That would have been less cumbersome overall. I'll get to work on the translations now. Manxruler (talk) 13:29, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I thought it was necessary to translate it all. Anyway, thanks a lot for your help and hope most of the issues are solved, just list the outstanding on the article discussion page and I will try to sort it out. Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 16:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
It's a bit debated, but there's no rule that says you have to. Indeed, you don't actually need to have those long quotes in the citations at all. I'll finish the translation work tomorrow, then have a look and see if there anything else. It should be OK. Manxruler (talk) 21:11, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
I'm done. A native English speaker could probably do better, but it's probably good enough for now. Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 12:15, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks for your help! I first heard about Kai Holst some 20 years ago and this spring I decided I had to try to make a decent article about him. As the circumstances around his death is so diverging I tried my best to make the text as well referenced as possible. Besides English I also got it translated into Swedish as I assume the story should be of interest for Swedes as well. Anyway, once again thanks for your support! Best regards, Ulflarsen (talk) 07:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
I have nominated Operation Claw for a new DYK, you may watchlist the template here to follow the review. You may also suggest another hook or a modification to the one I suggested if you want to. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 22:48, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Kai HolstEdit

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DYK for Operation ClawEdit

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Hi there Ulflarsen; I'd be happy to take a look through the article once you've translated it, but please note that I don't know anything about the subject. Leave me a message once you've finished and I'll take a look through. J Milburn (talk) 16:13, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your swift and positive reply, it will take some time before I have done the translation, but within a couple of month's I hope to acomplish it and I will then notice you. Ulflarsen (talk) 11:41, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Anna KarolineEdit

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Patroller Ulf?Edit

Hei, Ulf. Jeg fikk nettopp melding om at du hadde patruljert Magnus Langseth – som du nylig har lest om på Trudebms disk.side. Artig! Vil det si at du er patruljør her? Kjersti Lie (talk) 12:35, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Er visst det, men sjelden jeg bruker det... Har jo vært her siden juni 2004. :-) Mvh - Ulflarsen (talk) 13:45, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

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Just throw me a talk page message when you're ready for me to have a look. I know a little bit of Norwegian, though I doubt it'll help much. Just the "Hvordan har du det idag?" sort of overly-formal talk. Adam Cuerden (talk) 02:40, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Good, I will do that. :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 10:58, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
@Adam Cuerden: Then the article about Eva von Bahr (physicist) is up. :-) Ulflarsen (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

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About the "Krigskorset" and Ernest VineracqEdit

Hi Ulflarsen,

I have the project of editing the Norwegian wiki page of "Ernest Vineracq" to help fulfilling the total list of the Norwegian War Cross recipients. Since I don't speak any word of Norwegian (French, English or German only), coding the page is very difficult for me : I know too little about the Norwegian wiki headers, categories and so on.

I read you have some interest in making the list complete. May be could you help me for the code ? I could help you with any question of translation.

The "Google-translated" French page is :

I think it would be better to rename the page "Charles Stieglitz" instead of "Ernest Vineracq", since it is his official name.

Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skuz974 (talkcontribs) 15:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi, great, I will make a notice about this on the article, several others should be interested in this as well! I will do what I can to assist you! Ulflarsen (talk) 16:02, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi again, here is a link to the discussion page for the list of recipients of Krigskorset, I have started a thread in English that you are invited to contribute to:

I hope that together we can cover all of the missing biographies on the list. Ulflarsen (talk) 16:09, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

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