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This is not Fair and Humanism in the 21st Century--

Despite my corrections-- editings my " Berrin Tuncel" page was deleted. This is discrimination against Turkish Painters -- While you publish singers, actors-- this is forbidden for Turkish Artist Berrin Tunçel ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FineArtExpert (talk • contribs) 12:11, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

User:JzG deleted the page and I'm sure they will be happy to explain their reasoning to you. Theroadislong (talk) 12:15, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

I was only the latest to delete it.

• BERRIN TUNCEL (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
• Berrin Tuncel (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Feel free to spend time explaining WP:RS, WP:BLP and the rest, I'm a bit busy IRL right now. Guy (Help!) 12:26, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

also Guy, for your info see my reply and amend as you see fit Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

perez vs. sharp

Hi Th.!

I'm writing re Perez vs. Sharp a WIKI article in which I tried to insert the name of the plaintiff's, Angela Perez, attorney. Her attorney, c. 1948 was my dad, Daniel G. Marshall of Los Angeles, California. Hey, just registering on WIKI and navigating the insertion was a big deal for me as I'm a non techie 73 year old. How can I verify, in the SIMPLEST terms, that dad was her attorney. The WIKI suggestions are overwhelming to me. I noted that Dara Orenstein, who contacted me when she was doing her dissertation on the politics of misegenation a few years back, is one of the sources for the WIKI article. I could really use some direction as it is important to me that my Dad, long since deceased, would finally get the recognition he deserved for this case. This case was most recently referenced re allowing gay marriage.Ronnie ann (talk) 20:23, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Was the information published somewhere, a newspaper, a magazine? All content MUST be reliably sourced. I'll have a search online myself. Theroadislong (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

OK I found a reference and added back the content for you, all good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Facebook

If you want to take up this gripe, Facebook, do it with the creator of Omen (Antestor album), have a nice day. If an album has reviews by Cross Rhythms, New Release Today, Indie Vision Music, Jesus Freak Hideout, and others on CCM Sources, then I'd say notable and not eligible for your tagging, nor to be prodded.The Cross Bearer (talk) 07:52, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

After Notability has been established, it is fine to use Facebook and Twitter to glean other details of events or background.The Cross Bearer (talk) 07:55, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Kat Dahlia's birthday information comes from her Twitter posting.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:01, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

So? Please read Wikipedia:Other stuff exists Theroadislong (talk) 08:03, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I know that policy quite well.The Cross Bearer (talk) 08:04, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I would highly advise you to look over, SELFSOURCE, and this is because it applies to everything that I mentioned to you above.The Cross Bearer (talk) 09:04, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I am well aware of that, however if you can find better sources it can only improve the article, I don't imagine it would survive an AFD at the moment with such poor referencing. Theroadislong (talk) 09:11, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

I understand your reasoning, yet the band got one review for their first album and three for the other from RS in the CCM market. It most certainly would survive in an AfD.The Cross Bearer (talk) 06:07, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

William Bill Wilson, Jr.: A Life of Servitude listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect William Bill Wilson, Jr.: A Life of Servitude. Since you had some involvement with the William Bill Wilson, Jr.: A Life of Servitude redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:14, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Ceramic Art article

Hello, I noticed the article Ceramic art has been moved to History of ceramic art and the redirect now goes to Pottery. The redirect for Ceramics is now redirected to Pottery rather than to Ceramic art. As you have been a contributor to the Ceramic art article, I am curious as to your opinion. There will a lot of clean-up as many articles link to Pottery and to Ceramics - many times within the same article. I am not so sure I am in agreement with this move - and maybe the move should be undone? Thank you for your time, Cheers Gmcbjames (talk) 01:24, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I have moved it back, perhaps the editor will start a discussion on the talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 08:22, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

I see it has been reverted, so I opened up a discussion on the article's talk page to seek consensus. Cheers Gmcbjames (talk) 18:35, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for your help at the article David de Gea cheers! TeaLover1996 (talk) 08:41, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry

I need help.....Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)I am sorry but I don't understand a thing you wrote to me that I am doing wrong except not write about myself. I believe I added my personnel docs from album notes that are on Wikipedia and album notes from the album sites. How did I violate anything This is getting to be like a science project for the moon. I just need help There is so much I have accomplished and that is documented How can I find someone to help me at this point. Please? I didn't violate copyright I showed a link to the sales of my records. How is that wrong? (Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2015 (UTC)).

I'm not an admin so can't see what you wrote but it appears it was deleted because it was copied from another website. If you are notable someone will write an article about you at some point. Theroadislong (talk) 16:35, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry

Dear Theroadislong , Would you please delete any comments made on George Terry on his page or mine. This was done a while ago and I have moved on. Thank you Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC) I am also looking to find someone to help me on the Wikipedia page I am disabled and it is hard to type and I can not figure out for the life of me what is accepted and what isn't I will pay an educated person to help me work in my music and motion picture work into a career page I have nothing to sell through you nor do I want to violate what it is that declares your information.Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk) 17:00, 5 July 2015 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Theroadislong&action=edit&section=new#

You continue to copy and paste content from other websites. Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted content. Theroadislong (talk)

Kitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry

http://www.hidaba.com/2012/03/28/stephen-stills-thoroughfare-gap/

I have spent the day drafting another page using the same links George Terry used as we performed on the same work. You kept his so why would I be deleted. I updated all links copied in case you delete. A lot of hard work. I feel this is factual using Billboard Magazine direct links to artists and whatever. I am tired I hope this one finds some liking Please give me a chance before you delete it It took me forever on the internet I would pay someone to help me I have bolts and screws in my neck I hurt. Can you help me? You seem to know what the plan is and I want to make it happen. I did mention the movies I worked on the music and albums. I hope it is somewhat OK> Kitty Just a draftKitty Terry aka Kitty Woodson Terry (talk) 20:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

You don't say where the draft is? Offering to pay someone to write an article is a VERY bad idea. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). Theroadislong (talk) 21:47, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

i am the one who changed the edibility before i made a mistake, i am now fixing it. and i have years of experience with mushrooms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.6.232.91 (talk) 20:32, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

Skyhorse Publishing

Theroadislong, thank you for your help. I am new to using and understanding Wikipedia update policies, your comments have been very helpful. I do feel that the last paragraph of the Skyhorse Publishing page still should be removed. The reasoning being twofold:

1. Book publishers, in general, do not have any control over who sells their books. Skyhorse Publishing, a book publisher, cannot control where Skyhorse books are sold, just as a cable channel cannot control who pays for the tier that includes their channel, etc. 2. I encourage you to review other book publishers pages such as Random House and Simon & Schuster. No other book publisher page includes commentary about who sells their books, which is not something a book publisher can control and therefore this could be a valid reason for removing the last paragraph.

Please let me know if you still have any questions or concerns about why the paragraph should be removed from the Skyhorse page. I'm happy to continue the discussion further. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkyhorseSales1 (talk • contribs) 18:44, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

You need to discuss this on the article talk page not here. Wikipedia only reports on what the reliable sources say about the subject. It maybe that the content is undue weight I don't know. Theroadislong (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Jesse James photos

If you want to remove my Jesse James photos, I will start removing your edits. These are very rare and contribute very much to the Jesse James page. Osmond Phillips — Preceding unsigned comment added by OSMOND PHILLIPS (talk • contribs) 21:11, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Please learn how to add photographs, you are adding them all with info boxes which are not required. Theroadislong (talk) 21:13, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Jesse James photos

There is already a info box under the initial photo. There are other photos without info boxes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OSMOND PHILLIPS (talk • contribs) 21:18, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Jesse James photos

I will study further — Preceding unsigned comment added by OSMOND PHILLIPS (talk • contribs) 21:20, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Edits to ISO29119 page

I received your message regarding my edits to ISO29119 page. I believe I have complied with Wikipedia policy regarding possible conflict of interest. The posting was reviewed by multiple reviewers. We believe it is factual and has minimal bias. I did not change existing "controversy" items on the page. If I (we) have missed something please inform me and I will make changes as needed. I also plan to address some of the existing "issues" note on the page ASAP. Please inform me of next step to get the page display updated.

Jon

Jon D Hagar (talk) 22:16, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

You should discuss your proposed changes on the articles talk page and please be aware that accounts are strictly for the use of one person only and you keep saying "we". Theroadislong (talk) 07:28, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Disruptive Editing?

I'm just making links to different articles that's all — 73.47.37.131 (talk) 21:02, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but you were not making links to articles you were making seemingly random red links that would never become articles. Theroadislong (talk) 21:13, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Dora Billington

Would you care to look at my message on the talk page there? Thanks. Pelarmian (talk) 15:10, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Which content do you feel needs adding first? Theroadislong (talk) 15:22, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your explanation

Hello, Thanks for your explanation on why Excitability was flagged for deletion. I still believe that it should have a link to the article on "overexcitability," since Dabrowski used the term excitability in many different ways. I did share that info on the overexcitability page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auroraremember (talk • contribs) 21:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello - thanks for the suggestion

Just wondering, is it to late to transfer the Kosta Nikas page over to the AFC process or were you suggesting that's what I needed to do next time? AS_Sydney (talk) 11:21, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

you should be able to copy and paste it across I think.Theroadislong (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Sourcing

Hi TheRoadIsLong, of course I know that I haveto reference claims and I'm slowly working through that. Can I ask that rather than remove things that you just ask me if there's a source for them. As it happens, there is a source for the bit you removed. AS_Sydney (talk) 17:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

If you have a source then you can add back the content, no worries? Theroadislong (talk) 19:25, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I had a question about the overexcitability page. It said it did not have resources cited, so I added information, mostly from Dabrowski's book, along with some resources on the topic. I included books that I know cover the topic and three links from websites that I found most useful when I first researched the topic. Is there a way to change the flag on the top that says it doesn't have resources cited? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Auroraremember (talk • contribs) 18:07, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

IMDb As A Source

Hi theroadislong, while I generally accept that IMDb is not the pinnacle of sourcing, I do feel that a database dedicated to film would tend to get things right on film.Especially when what we're talking about is film Awards and I actually know this actor, who is a famous in Australia and also know he was the recipient of four awards and nominee for two.. please use some common sense... AS_Sydney (talk) 09:09, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not concerned with what you know or what edits you make on IMDb Wikipedia requires, reliable secondary sources and if your subjects are notable there should be no problem in finding them. Theroadislong (talk) 09:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC) Hopw absolutelyt ridiculous - I do NOT know the actor personally, I know the actor because they are famous and I am aware pof things in certain topic areas.. that's what I meant. For that reason, I was also satisfied as to the appropriateness of the sourcing. To draw a conclusion from what I've said that I have in some way got a personal connection is ridiculous! AS_Sydney (talk) 09:25, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed or do you not understand the concept of an actor being well-known and that it doesn't necessitate a personal connection?

AS_Sydney (talk) 09:40, 12 July 2015 (UTC) My apologies for misunderstanding your meaning but the words "I actually know this actor" seemed to indicate that you knew him? Theroadislong (talk) 09:44, 12 July 2015 (UTC)No - I don't personally kinow him, have never met him, never spoken to him - "know" in this case meant I had an awareness of who he was as someone of note in Australia. Apology accepted. Haqve added a link to the actor's Wikipage where there is separate mention of the Awards. AS_Sydney (talk) 09:47, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Spam links

In regards to the Northern Guilford High School aerial video, I feel that it is relevant in light of the fact that by definition, an encyclopedic view encompasses all details of a given subject. This, I feel, validates my submission as it is informational and informative. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quad Photographer (talk • contribs) 15:50, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Adding multiple links to your own videos is considered spamming, if that is all you are here for you will soon be blocked. Theroadislong (talk) 16:09, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi

Hi Theroadislong.

I didn't intend the edit to be promotional but helpful - we are having lots of problems at the moment with visitors arriving on a Sunday thinking the museum is open and then getting upset/angry with staff when it is not. This seems to trace to an incorrect Google search result which I am also trying to change - once that is correct I had intended to remove the Wikipedia edit. As the library and museum are completely separate (we share the building but are run by separate organisations) solving issues like this confusion over opening hours on line can be tricky. I have also added the library website address to the bottom of the page to help people understand the difference between us.

I am new to editing Wikipedia so please be gentle with me!

Can you suggest a better way for me to solve the problem of our incorrect opening hours appearing? Would it be helpful to have opening hours for both the library and the museum somewhere on the Wikipedia page or would this be thought of as 'promotion'?

Thanks for your help. HarrisMuseum (talk) 08:40, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

This something you will have to do with your own websites opening times do not belong in Wikipedia articles

Burlington High School (MA)

Thanks for the message. I am taking information directly from Burlington High School webpages and entering factual information. Any feedback on how to alter my entries for publication is appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Burlingtonhigh (talk • contribs) 12:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

You cannot copy and paste material from anywhere all content has to be in your own words and backed up bye third party sources not your blog. Theroadislong (talk) 12:58, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

July 2015

Hello, I'm 99.53.112.186. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Genevieve Lyons because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

The road is long

Gizem Senel is a not notable person who has written her own article. You have asked speedy deletion years ago, and the autobiography of a young woman who made a 4 minute something and calls it a film, and has played the "lead role" and therefore presents herself as a director and actress (and singer-songwriter!) and still mocks Wikipedia after so many years. I doubt anybody knows her out of Wikipedia. Even her name is manipulated, to fit internet better. Thanks for the speedy effort. She has come a long road since then. --176.239.78.173 (talk) 22:41, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2015

more spieling mistakes by me that's why i'm changed again an again Mahendra Mewati (talk) 13:41, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't understand what you are requesting? Theroadislong (talk) 14:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Genevieve Lyons Read More

I'm new to Wikipedia and learning constantly, thank you for your guidance. I appreciate the value of verification. I note the Read More at the bottom of Genevieve Lyons page is incorrect since John Murray Anderson was married to Genevieve Lyon who died in 1916, and Genevieve Lyons born in 1930. Not sure who can amend this error. Additionally I have newspaper cuttings from some of the plays reviews. If I locate a domain to store them in are these suitable for some of th Ella's appear mace verification. Many thanks Sam — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samanthajanerichardson (talk • contribs) 13:50, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

I can't locate any "read more" section? Better to detail the name of the newspaper and date rather than upload images. Theroadislong (talk) 15:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Pmdtechnologies

All I did was to correct the spelling of the company name to "all lowercase", but bots and admins turned the page into a total mess. How can we possibly get this article fixed if we're not allowed to edit anything, not even fix the name? We're not Apple or Google, and we can't enlist an army of "neutral" contributors that are allowed to take on the task. So thanks for pillorizing our company, and have a good day. Pmdwiki (talk) 14:47, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

You need to propose your changes on the article talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 15:32, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

All right. My fault. I only wanted to update the company name and logo (obsolete for as long as three years), because (obviously!) no one outside the company would take care of it. I didn't realize this would constitute a COI. Pmdwiki (talk) 16:55, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

SPI

• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cottycrimge

Cheers. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the help! :D

Really thank you! It was my first post and I was unsure how to do it. I will be sure to get the proper sources for my edit and re-save it!

Hi Theroadislong .. Thanks for replying. Well, I, Sonam R Thakur, a Crew Member of DS Creations Entertainment Private Limited, had created an article on July 9th, 2015. I am really finding it difficult because creating an article on Wikipedia needs a proper detailed study. Our field is totally different and its our first effort. I keep on asking my fellow members for the help keeping in mind that there must understand some points which I may not be doing. Interestingly, even they find it difficult but still help me. So, I am an individual only who is writing the article but we all aren't getting the proper process to get an article published. Still enjoying the process. So, Theroadislong, please help me by having a look and tell me where I am lacking. Thanks ... Sonam R Thakur (talk) 19:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

questions about edits

Dear Sir, I did not agree with several edits you made to my edits. For one, I minorly edited a sentence about mold artists in Environmental Art that gave the full name of the person whose art is depicted in the photo, therefore I think it was a good edit and would like to recall it. Secondly, I added a second reference to the sentence about mold art in the article that was just a web address because I wasn't referencing any page on the website but rather the whole website as an illustration of mold art. Thirdly I created a page about artist Heather Barnett that you proposed for speedy deletion but she is certainly sufficiently significant, for one thing has given a TED talk plus created a collective regarding her interest (http://slimoco.ning.com/). Perhaps you would retract the request for speedy deletion? Greg Dahlen (talk) 12:47, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I have removed the speedy at Heather Barnett (artist). Notability however has NOT been established and as it stands it would almost certainly fail an AFD, you need to find reliable third party sources that discuss her. Theroadislong (talk) 14:20, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

thanks for removing speedy, Theroadislong. But I don't understand, why is her not having given a TED talk plus establishing an association that brings together experts in her field, sufficient for notability? I appreciate your adding a sentence about where she is employed, but why do you think that that makes more of a case for her notability than the two facts I just named? Greg Dahlen (talk) 14:44, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

I would like to restore one minor edit on the Environmental Art article, I believe the slight re-wording of the sentence about mold art in the article is better. I would also like to re-add the reference to the slime mold collective website, I can add a "retrieved on July 25th 2015" note to it. Greg Dahlen (talk) 14:44, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Kitces page

Saw your notability tag and reference checks on Michael Kitces page. I can update this stuff, just hadn't bothered in a long time. Give me a few days? There are lots of new references since I wrote the page years ago. Just haven't been motivated to work on it in a while, after griefing I got from other Wiki editors after I first wrote. Kinda killed my interest in Wiki stuff for a while. Also, check out the notes from back then, notability had already been challenged and affirmed. Finplanwiki (talk) 19:47, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Also, Financial Planning magazine is a "notable" magazine in our industry. One of the leading three with top circulation, along with Investment News and Financial Advisor. Finplanwiki (talk) 19:49, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Birthdate of Heather Barnett

Saw you removed edit on Heather Barnett birthdate. But if I can't find the info elsewhere, isn't the private email better than nothing? I would imagine that on most Wikipedia biographical articles, the editor has not seen the birth certificate of the person bio'ed, in fact most bio articles don't even give a source for the birth date, do they? Would it work if I simply stated she was born in England in 1970 and didn't give a source? Greg Dahlen (talk) 12:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Absolutely not ALL content on biographies needs to be reliably sourced. Wikipedia only includes content that has been reported on by reliable sources. Nothing else. Theroadislong (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

And if you have a personal connection to the artist you need to declare this on your user page and the article page too...see WP:COI Theroadislong (talk) 13:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, Theroadislong. I had seen biographical articles with a photo of the subject to the right and the birth date beneath and it looked to me like the birth date wasn't sourced. But now I see the birth date is sourced within the article text. I have no personal connection to her, I had simply emailed her when I couldn't find a birth date and place on the web. Greg Dahlen (talk) 15:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

By the way, I still wish to make a couple of minor edits on the environmental art article which I had asked you about two posts up but you did not answer. I believe I will go ahead and make them, if you don't like them then ideally I wish you would contact me first and discuss, or simply edit them to make them acceptable, it is a bit abrupt when you just undo. Greg Dahlen (talk) 15:13, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

might not be best way

Dear Theroadislong, I have appreciated your help on a couple of articles. It seems to me that instead of undoing my (and I would think others') edits, you ought to communicate with the editor who you disagree with and work together to improve them, or improve the edit yourself. You may not mean it this way, but simply undoing them comes ve ry harsh. Greg Dahlen (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry but when copyright issues are involved deletion is absolutely necesaary. Theroadislong (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Sorry. I suppose I'm confused then how to change things on Wikipedia. I could see where the list of degrees may be deemed too much. But even then, those are facts. The changes I have made are factual in nature (number of degree programs, number of students, addresses, building names); I even removed the ShopColumbia info, which was not my doing, that originally was flagged for being advertising. Requesting an edit leaves it open to all sorts of biases from the editor. Just look at the Talk page and some of the comments there, not to mention past examples (by way of USA goalkeeper Tim Howard being the Secretary of Defense in summer 2014 or anything requested by Daniel Tosh).

I didn't think these changes/additions would be deemed "disruptive." I'm more than willing and able to comply, but it's confusing if I can't update facts, regardless of source. By the way, I also added the requested COI disclosure on the Talk page. Thanks in advance for any guidance. OnlineCommsUpdate (talk) 17:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

barnett reference change

thanks for alert on reference error. Please check to see if now satisfactory and if so remove error tag. Thanks. Greg Dahlen (talk) 18:24, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

If you have fixed the error you are welcome to remove the tag yourself. Theroadislong (talk) 19:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Sandford St Martin Trust

Hello Can you help? I've been trying to update the winners section of the Sandford St Martin Trust wikipedia entry but you've deleted much more than what was recently amended including newly added citations. There is now less material in the wikipedia entry than there was several months ago. Sandford St Martin Trust (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

I deleted it because it was copyrighted text which had all been copied and pasted into the article. All content in Wikipedia needs to be written in your own words. using reliable third party sources. You also have a conflict of interest and shouldn't be editing the article at all. Theroadislong (talk) 13:13, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Please remove the criticism content on Vikrama Simhapuri University

Dr.kedari99 (talk)Dear Sir, Kindly understand our concerns regarding the criticism that was motivated by the vested interests in this region which was under your scanner and the criticism on wiki page had been selling these vested interests with an academic sanction. There have been several articles on all the 13 universities in Andhra Pradesh and how can the allegations be given the authenticity to be relied on for providing information to the public? Please understand our concerns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr.kedari99 (talk • contribs) 13:27, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

You need to discuss this on the article talk page, the critical content appears to be VERY well sourced unlike the rest of the article. Theroadislong (talk) 14:20, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion

I would like to ask you why you consider my article a vanity piece? Everything I have written is factual and has sources to refer to. Lori St John has made a difference here in the United States as well as other countries. I would like to improve the page anyway necessary. I appreciate you input. Thank you. Galaxygirl0505 (talk) 17:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

The article has very few secondary sources, most of the references are primary ie. connected to the articles subject. You need to make clear why she is WP:NOTABLE. Theroadislong (talk) 17:41, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Your removed what you call a "personal essay" or whatever, but it was an update to the page relating the current state of photographic film, and was a re-write of a paragraph that dated and expressed that film was obsolete and superseded by digital photography. My re-write corrects this misconception and gives the current state of film and film photography as of 2015. Your reason for removing it is not acceptable. I will look into what recourse is open to me. If the paragraph should not have been at the header, then why didn't you move it down in the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xo-whiplock (talk • contribs) 19:59, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome to integrate some of the material into the article BUT the lede section summarises the articles content and your edit removed all of that. Theroadislong (talk) 20:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Poorly sourced vanity piece - Lori St John

For your reference and ease in review I have compiled a list of just some of the secondary sources you will find Ms. Urs, now Lori St John. Mention of Lori Urs (now St John) in Secondary Sources

New England School of Law http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.6.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt

http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.3.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt, Urs referenced and acknowledged throughout the article as the reason one of 3, 000 death row cases became an international cause. See columns, 1, 3, and 4, noting: column 1: Days after the Supreme Court stayed O’Dell’s execution on Dec. 17, the New York Times reported “there can’t be many people left in Italy who never heard of O’Dell. The “nagging question” the story asked was “how this case was singled out for Italy’s’ national embrace. They need have looked no further than Urs, a driven woman who has dedicated her life to saving O’Dell’s. Column 2, O’Dell’s case was already known in Italy via the Internal... but but so too were the cases of more than 3,000 other Americans on death row across the country, and no one was demonstrating about any of them until Urs reached Farkas.” Column 3: After the story ran (front page story of the most widely circulated newspaper in Italy), Neri, a locally elected official representing the region of Umbria , called Farkas looking for Urs, and things took a political turn. Column 5- “ In January, Urs toured Italy to thank O’Dell supporter and drummed up more attention. Ferrarotti, the sociologist, appeared on a television show with Urs during the visit. He said Urs “captured the imagination of the Italian public at large. I was quite amazed myself. He said she was “very forceful, very attractive, obviously very dedicated and you know all of this put together somehow made an impact.” Leoluca Orlando, major of Palermo, made O’dell an honorary citizen.

Urs was invited by the Italian Parliament, who sponsored her trip, to tour the country of Italy. She began her tour in the President’s office, meeting with his aid, and then met with the President of the Senate, President of Constitutional Affairs and numerous high dignitaries throughout Italy, including doing a TV show with then Foreign Affairs Prime Minister Dini.

She was also invited twice to the Vatican, met the Secretary of State, who gave her a rosary from the Pope and was invited back to meet privately with Pope John Paul II, at the Vatican. She also received a phone call from Mother Teresa, in acknowledgement of her work, and invited her to stay with her in Calcutta. See The Corruption of Innocence, a Journey for Justice, pages 326, 338-9, 340, 441, 440-1, 417, 417, 427, 429,

World’s appeals can’t stay execution http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.5.html?scp=1&sq=Joseph+O'Dell&st=nyt

Philadelphia Inquirer: http://www.loristjohn.com/TPI-1.1.html

About Urs... read how her mission led her to take extraordinary measures to obtain the evidence for posthumous DNA testing.

A Jersey woman’s fight for justice http://blog.nj.com/perspective/2013/10/when_injustice_proves_too_diff.html

Urs (now St John )and her story, purchased for the film adaptation by J. Miles Dale http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/10/fl-creative-production-idUSnBw105718a+100+BSW20130910

Lori Urs debates evidence with Commonwealth Attorney Humphreys in Virginia, http://www.loristjohn.com/RDT-1.4.html

New York Times; Front page Lori Urs’ website page was the first to be noted for its uniqueness, reaching people worldwide, where a petition was started to fee O’Dell. This same web site was the one picked up by 24 hours in Cyberspace (see wikki) for her notability in touching human lives around the world. see the wikki article about 24 hours in Cyberspace http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html

Washington Post

see picture of Lori Urs with Sister Helen Prejean. She called a press conference and recruited the famous nun to join her cause to save Joseph O’Dell. http://www.loristjohn.com/NYT-1.1.html

International- Italy See http://www.loristjohn.com/ItalianMedia-5.1.html

Message to Lori Urs from Mother Teresa, who phoned her personally in August. http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-4.html

Lori Urs wrote an appendix to the U.S Supreme Court citing the factual errors in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, in this brief summary she includes some of her legal research and investigation . http://www.loristjohn.com/Document-1.1.html

Book Reviews and other secondary sources

http://www.whomyouknow.com/2013/07/read-this-corruption-of-innocence.html#.VcJnls5cvyc

https://readersfavorite.com/book-review/the-corruption-of-innocence

http://www.lideamagazine.com/usa-book-expo-america-books-books-books-and-again-books-part-2/

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/books-corruption-innocence-joseph-odell-story

http://www.crimecasefiles.com/forum/life-on-death-row/47551-books-the-corruption-of-innocence-the-joseph-odell-story.html

See testimonials

http://www.loristjohn.com/index-bookreviews.html

Photographs of Lori Urs with Italy Parliament Members, and other High Dignitaries

Photographs with Lori Urs and Italian Parliament Members (and European Parliament member Leoluca Orlando (member of both parliaments).

http://www.loristjohn.com/index-3.html

see also her book.Galaxygirl0505 (talk) 20:54, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you are listing them here? Please add them to the article though bear in mind that any links to her own website will not help with notability. Theroadislong (talk) 20:58, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Sophia Webster

Thanks for adding your own eye to Sophia Webster. I'm honestly not sure what exactly the PR's problem is with the statement but I guess we'll find out. Does she even realise she's not making her client look particularly good? Mabalu (talk) 21:15, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Photographic film

Thanks!!!!!

(Barry) N0TABENE (talk) 17:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

William Lane Craig and Talk:William Lane Craig

The Talk page was used prior to the most recent editing. A recent editing summary referred to points which had been made on the Talk:William Lane Craig page. Finally, other editors on the Talk:William Lane Craig have posted other sources which indicate similar stances to my own. I would like to add that as a past and present university student who writes papers at university, I don't always go to great lengths to describe who I am citing.

For example, during a criminology essay, I might say in reference to the criminologist Robert Agnew: Agnew (2006) observes that research relevant to the issues of homelesssness and/or crime had suggested homelessness and the difficulties that homelessness creates or presents for those who experience a period, or periods, of homelessness - seen particularly in relation to youth homelessness - has a significant effect on crime, particularly on youth crime. I would like people to interpret that sentence as suggesting that I think that the sociologist Robert Agnew is first or primarily a criminologist. Similarly if I were to write a philosophy essay using William Lane Craig's work, I would like people to interpret my words as suggesting that I think that William Lane Craig is first primarily a philosopher. I would not be suprised if most philosophers who cite William Lane Craig in their philosophy books and articles want to suggest that William Lane Craig is a first/primarily a philosopher even if they don't explicitly say so.

References

Agnew, R. (2006), Pressured into Crime: An Overview of General Strain Theory, New York: Oxford University Press, see pages 55 and 74.

Col8lok8 (talk) 07:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Please read WP:Consensus Theroadislong (talk) 08:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome

I take it you've had a run-in with Glacialfrost (aka The Editor of All Things Wikipedia). He is some piece of work. I just left a message for his "mentor" suggesting he get GF off Twinkle and back to basic content editing. --Drmargi (talk) 18:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Ignoring my changes instead of helping me fix an article

You didn't even look at my changes, just changed the article back to the way it was despite content that was a personal attack. What gives you the right to do that? I see that you did that to another person, too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beth87311 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I did look at your changes VERY carefully. Your edit removed all content from the lede about the articles subject List of Joseph Smith's wives and replaced it with your own commentary on polygamy. Theroadislong (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Changes to the Heat Staking wikipedia article

Hi,

My name is Lance Crawford and I have been contributing to several Plastic Assembly and Technology based sections. I was hoping to get your feedback on the following edits you recently adjusted on the Heat Staking article in Wikipedia.

I have always tried to present technical data and not be self-promotional of our company versus other competitors. It was brought to my attention this week that our competitor whom had a link to their website in the article had recently also change the link from our website to go to their website instead.

Although both our websites were topical, they would have been considered sales related by nature. So I do not have a problem at all with their removal from this article.

The reference to the published article I had written for Plastic Decorating & Assembly Magazine before I had joined Thermal Press had a link that went dead in the last month or so since I last checked the article. changed and I noticed it is no longer available on the Plastic Decorating and Assembly Magazine website any longer, so I changed that to the link on our website.

* Sullivan, Gary & Crawford, Lance, "The Heat Stake Advantage". Plastic Decorating Magazine. January/February 2003 Edition. ISSN 1536-9870. (Topeka, KS: Peterson Publications, Inc.). Section: Assembly: pages 11-12, covers Sullivan & Crawford's article.

Is there anyway this article could still be referenced in the heat staking category, as it is not a sales pitch article at all, but only technical in nature. I am working with the editor at the magazine to find out why it is no longer accessible within the archive on their website.

Thank You,

Lance C. Thermal Press

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by LanceCraw (talk • contribs) 20:38, 18 August 2015 (UTC) 

It is really considered bad form to link to your own work on Wikipedia please see WP:SPAMMER Theroadislong (talk) 20:46, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank You for the feedback and your time on this matter. I hope I can reach out to you with any other questions regarding posting etiquette and practices to Wikipedia in the future. LanceCraw (talk) 20:53, 18 August 2015 (UTC)Lance C.

Dorling Kindersley

Hi there,

I am really struggling to update the Dorling Kindersley page. It is filled with inaccuracies, for example the company have now officially changed their name to 'DK', they produce content in 62 languages and now have offices in many other countries that aren't listed in the current text.

I added the correct citations in the last edit I made but it was still removed, for the reason "citations must be added" which I find most unhelpful!

Please, either help me get the text updated to reflect the company's current position in the market or leave more constructive feedback if you are going to keep removing all the edits I make.

All the information I have been trying to update appears in this link... The official DK website.

http://www.dk.com/uk/information/about-dk/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by BookCoverLover (talk • contribs) 08:04, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Question on notability

Thank you for your review and helpful comments on the three articles that I have been working on: Mayapple Press, Backwaters Press, and Matt Mason (Poet). Your comments were challenging but hopefully we have addressed issues (or at least made progress). I understand that often what is relevant or not and/or what is sufficient sourcing is at times somewhat subjective and I am all in favor of working towards consensus of multiple editors to address such questions. As a new editor though, what I need additional guidance on is what you regard as the criteria for notability. All three of these articles have been on Wikipedia for several (+5) years (even to the point that what I saw that I was mostly doing was "updating" them) and appeared to have notability issues long resolved, but you have tagged them all as problematic in that regard and in one case, have requested deletion. Can you provide me with your objective standard that you would accept as confirming these articles are "notable?" Are there standards which can be relied on as the consensus of most editors? Do forgive me, I do not mean to be contentious. I am new and undoubtedly require some education on this matter. But it would seem to me that if these articles indeed are not notable, then a serious and perhaps impossible to resolve methodological issue exists with Wikipedia editing, such that that it continues to force editors "to go in circles" and allows no understood resolution. With all due respect, I started to work on these articles to hopefully resolve issues, not to "go in circles" on issues long resolved. Thank you for your patience with me.

Edward Dixon (talk) 19:43, 20 August 2015 (UTC)Edward

The WP:GNG is a good start for determining whether an article's subject is notable or not. Theroadislong (talk) 19:47, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Salisbury Playhouse UK on Wikipedia

Hi. As Salisbury Playhouse (an arts business in the UK), we have been trying to get some factually incorrect and out of date information changed on the Salisbury Playhouse Wikipedia description but are being prevented as a 'conflict of interest', which is frustrating. How can we correct the out of date information? marketing@salisburyplayhouse.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.74.63 (talk) 15:38, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

If you use the article talk page to make suggestions a neutral uninvolved editor can add content if it is suitable though your additions so far have been ridiculously promotional in tone. Theroadislong (talk) 15:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

I WAS NOT VANDALIZING

You told me in a message that I may blocked if I vandalized again like I did at Judas Iscariot. But I was not trying to harm Wikipedia. I was only pointing out that even though scholars rejected certain ideas, they were not impossible. This is not false ideas. Whenever I try making edits to certain biblical articles, I am always reverted , even though I did not delete important information or insert false details. It is unjust to be accused of vandalism when you were not even writing false information or deleting important sentences. Wikipedia is the most biased work I've known. It is as though they want to unnecessarily call religious ideas myths. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.116.118 (talk) 21:46, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Your content was unreferenced personal opinion. All content needs to be referenced to reliable sources Theroadislong (talk) 21:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Please help me edit to guidelines rather than just deleting

What should be removed?:

Media The University has many media outlets run by current and ex-students through the Guild or independently. These include newspapers, tv stations, radio, magazines and music.

Journalism Exeposé is the official student newspaper of the Guild, it has been in print since 1987 and has run many successful pieces over this time and even picked up some awards, it is published every two weeks. Room XVII is a tabloid newspaper that is to begin printing in September 2015 to introduce an alternative to Exeter students wishing to have more regular news.

XTV and Xpression FM as mentioned are guild affiliated news sources that aim to cover a variety of life at the University. XTV will be broadcasting 10-11am throughout freshers week 2015. Xpression FM traces its routes back to 1976 and continues the tradition of hosting student written and run shows throughout term time.

An increasingly wide array of magazines, usually published termly or yearly have appeared in Exeter over the years. The most famous of which is Exetera a witty culture magazine that focuses on long reads and good design. Razz is the self-styled Arts & Lifestyle magazine of Exeter and provides detailed journalism from across the globe. PearShaped Magazine is a music focussed magazine that draws a wide readership for its gig reviews of concerts happening across the South West. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdurston (talk • contribs) 14:45, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Just because they exist is no reason for them to be included? Wikipedia only reports on what reliable sources have said about a subject, have they been mentioned any where apart from sources connected with the university? Are you connected with the university at all? Theroadislong (talk) 15:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm a second year student, I thought that wikipedia's aim was to provide information and connect people with resources. My intention was only to give better information to new students coming this September. Bdurston (talk) 16:00, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia it is not a means to give out info to new students! Please read Wikipedia:INDISCRIMINATE Theroadislong (talk) 16:05, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I do understand the point. However I would ask that you consider the use of Wikipedia in 2015. It is used for every one of those What Wikipedia is Not examples so perhaps you should think about the service your providing? Bdurston (talk) 16:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm an editor just like, you I'm not providing a service? Theroadislong (talk) 16:30, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

If you look closely at the article you will see that all your content is already there with references. Theroadislong (talk) 16:35, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I think wikipedia provides a fantastic service, all its moderators included. I'm sorry for the edit. Bdurston (talk) 19:37, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

New article on Constance Congdon

Hi,

I have a new article in my sandbox on the playwright, Constance Congdon. Could you take a look at it and give me some comments? I can't imagine that there will be any notability issues on this topic, but if so, please let me know.

Edward Dixon (talk) 03:28, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: Matt Nolan Custom cymbals entry on Cymbal Manufacturers page

Hello there,

Please would you explain what specifically was wrong with my contribution to the cymbal manufacturers page? I wrote neutral, factual information. In what way was my material different than that for any of the other manufacturers? This content was up for several years and nobody had any complaint.

Respectfully, Matt. Teethmeister (talk) 11:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

You don't appear to be notable there is no article about you and it appeared to be self promotion. Theroadislong (talk) 10:15, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

There are at least 3 articles about me (me alone) in print in separate drumming magazines. I'm not at home right now so I don't have those references to hand - instead I used (for now) references to me that I could find in magazines online. I am thanked and credited in the liner notes on Bjork's Biophilia album. I was mentioned by notable music writer Alex Ross in the Observer (national Sunday broadsheet) newspaper in the UK. There have been articles on me (me alone) in Jersey Life and Somerset Life magazines in the UK. Besides all that, in what way is neutral, factual information about my work any different than information about Zildjian or UFIP or Paiste? Or Matt Bettis? Please explain. Teethmeister (talk) 11:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

It is considered extremely bad form to write an article about yourself, if you are notable then someone else will do it. Theroadislong (talk) 10:38, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Steve Hubback and Michael Paiste are notable independent cymbal makers also. I added content about them (years ago) which I believe you have also removed. Please explain. Teethmeister (talk) 11:07, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Re: Edits to the Make A Difference page

Hi, thank you for highlighting the issues with my edits to the Make A Difference page. Bit novice around these various protocols as editing Wikipedia for the first time. Didn't realise that I needed to list that I work with Make A Difference, and therefore have a connection, and not sure where or how to do that. The edits were made simply to update content that was heavily out of date and inaccurately presented in the previous instance as the organisation has changed significantly over the past two years. Have tried to be as neutral as possible, but can see issues with the way the recognition section was presented. Will edit and resolve. Hopefully better now. This article is not meant to act as an advertisement, so if any other content violates neutral expectation please advise. Makeadifferenceindia (talk) 16:03, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

The whole article now reads like an advert I'm afraid. Theroadislong (talk) 16:41, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Tristan Stephenson for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Tristan Stephenson is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tristan Stephenson until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 08:36, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Things

seem to have worked out bootifully... great stuff. Cheers, _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 17:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Maybe I spoke too soon... can you say more? _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 19:38, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at Sociable Computer's edit history and see what you think!Theroadislong (talk) 20:59, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Aaahh! That's almost a ringer. Cheers! On a lighter note, I might get to see that RfA after all _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 21:36, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

Constant Contact

Hello,

Would you be able to let me know exactly what parts of the Constant Contact page are written as an advertisement? I can assure you that all the information is factual, but if there is any language that is bringing up red flags, I'm happy to revise accordingly.

Any guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfidler41 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Specifically the second sentence which says "Anchored by its email marketing tool, Constant Contact offers multi-channel marketing campaigns, including newsletters/announcements, offers/promotions, online listings, events/registration, and feedback." Totally unencyclopedic marketing speak.Theroadislong (talk) 15:21, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I just reverted back to the old, approved language. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfidler41 (talk • contribs) 18:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

TeaLover sock?

Which account do you suspect is a sock of TeaLover1996? JMHamo (talk) 22:51, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

User:Sociable Computer Theroadislong (talk) 07:49, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

...those Tea House questions are particularly revealing. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 08:16, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree, I have opened Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TeaLover1996. It will be dealt with soon. JMHamo (talk) 12:10, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

@Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi and Theroadislong: Sociable Computer was indeed a sock account, account now blocked. Good spot! JMHamo (talk) 18:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Team work, JMHamo, the result of bitter experience! Thanks to Eagle-eyes though originally. Cheers. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 18:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

Have a look at this though! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:45, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes there were bound to be more! Theroadislong (talk) 16:50, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm just remembering hat tbit where he said he didn't know what a sock was!!! _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 16:56, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

Suzannah Lipscomb

I don't see any issue with adding her latest published Novel to her page. Its not promotion. It is a relevant fact and should be included with the rest of her books and Televsion programmes etc.... We do the same for anyone else.. Thewho515 (talk) 00:00, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Cool Username! But crap edit. _Fortuna ^{Imperatrix Mundi} 05:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

You have a conflict of interest and adding commercial links to purchase a book which is not published yet IS promotional as others have also told you. Theroadislong (talk) 10:54, 5 September 2015 (UTC)