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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dealu Mare Vineyard

Oops, sorry about that!--Milowent • ^hasspoken 22:17, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem. :) - The Bushranger posting as Aerobird from a public computer ^Talk 16:50, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Erica Kennedy

Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:03, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

AN/I close

• diff

Nice to see I'm not the only one who has enjoyed that story : )

(See also the top of my talk page - "pages worth reading".)

As for the close, while I'm not thrilled with the sense that it indirectly seems to approve fait accompli, it was probably time. - jc37 18:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

That's always been one of my favourite parables. And yeah - that was a bit of a mess, but the discussion seemed to be dying with the elephant having wandered off, so... - The Bushranger posting as Aerobird from a public computer ^Talk 19:47, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bryan Silas

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

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Delivered by Nascar1996^{(Talk • Contribs)} 01:21, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Fictional immortals

• Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_June_3#Category:Fictional_immortals

Per the above, I've added the list from Category:Fictional_immortals to Talk:Immortality in fiction. so it can be added at editorial discretion.

Also, there looks like an edit war about it going on at Category:Fictional_demons - page history.

From the edit summaries in the IPs' contribs, the IPs may be User:Occuli, but that would obviously need confirmation.- jc37 03:17, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

...hm. I'd find that very hard to believe. I hope it isn't! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

See this - jc37 03:40, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

...hmm. Joe job maybe? I'll ping Oculi and see what he has to say for himself... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 03:45, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

While we of course cannot be positive, I would tentatively agree. I just spent some time looking through contribs. Different regional preferences.

Oh and you may also wish to see Wikipedia_talk:Categorization#Category:Fictional_Demons.

SPI may be around the corner on this I think... - jc37 04:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Facepalm - why some people do the things they do I'll never know... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ya buy em books, and what do they do? They eat the pages....

(For those who may have missed it - that was humour : ) - jc37 04:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Silverfish infestation? Time to call the Orkin Man! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:03, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for List of ThunderClan cats

An editor has asked for a deletion review of List of ThunderClan cats. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Thor Dockweiler (talk) 04:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

It is obvious that the proposers of the deletion that has occurred are not familiar with the article of the Warriors series and its subarticles. The Warriors series has been on The New York Times Best Sellers lists for the various volumes for years having sold many tens of millions of copies. It reaches its original intended audience of children but has crossed over and is read by a great many adults as well. The related subarticles and lists are highly relevant and pertinent to the subject. The most relevant phenomenon with a similar background is the Harry Potter series, let alone the Redwald series. In reviewing the articles in greater detail, it appears that they were created, were necessary, and appropriately done per Wikipedia:Article size, Wikipedia:Content forking, and Wikipedia:Splitting. The various clans are essential like the school houses in Harry Potter, substantially more so and relevant to the mythology in the Warriors series. I have looked at Chris Cunningham's mention of the Wikia:warriors site. Totally commercial, poor, irrelevant to the context of Wikipedia, and inappropriate. I have reviewed Colapeninsula's statement and disagree; the series is of major pop-culture importance. Both Hamlet and The Simpsons have much less in the character realm but substantially more material in detail than in the Warriors series here. Third party sources are lacking but a quick review using the web indicates that the New York Times info proves the popularity, as well as other newspaper sources. If it is deleted then 90% of Wikipedia should also be deleted. The articles are a work in progress and much better than many articles on Wikipedia. If this is deleted then all the subpages related to Harry Potter, Tolkien's works, Charles Dicken's works, Shakespeare's works, items related to King Arthur, etc. should be deleted to be consistent with the style and even handedness of the deleters. I seriously do not trust the competence of the deleters; they just seem too new to me and lack the proper judgement. Could they not have tried to be more constructive and input more sourcing or ask for it? If we permit their deletion to be sustained then we have reached a major impasse in Wikipedia and substantial reduction of content in Wikipedia is necessary to be consistent with policy, otherwise the policy itself needs to be reviewed and revised.Thor Dockweiler (talk) 04:51, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm not User:The Bushranger, but I was just wondering, is there a direct (non-rhetorical) question for User:The Bushranger in that wall of text somewhere? - jc37 04:57, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Good question. Also, to TD: this isn't Deletion Review; this is. Also, you may want to take a look at WP:OTHERSTUFF. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:00, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I've copied Thor Dockweiler's response above into an actual DRV request at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2012 June 27#List of ThunderClan cats. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 08:49, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Chris. Also, Thor: if you'd like the list moved to your Userspace, just ask and it shall be done. :) -The Bushranger _{One ping only} 14:36, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Rolando Baute

You can't convert the Prod to a BLPProd in Baute's case. A BLPProd requires no references. There is a ref to his home page present, so a the BLPProd can't be issued. I restored the original Prod. Bgwhite (talk) 18:12, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, thanks, I'll keep that in mind for the future. (To me, a 'UBLP' should be 'anything without inline citations' since without them you can't prove the 'references' are referencing anything, but c'est la Wiki!) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:19, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Last summer, the rules read for a brief time that a reliable reference was needed. Wish it were still around because we could do a BLPProd for those pages that just had a official website listed. It would close a big loophole. Bgwhite (talk) 21:31, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

AN/I

Just a quick note to say thank you for lightening up my day with your closure summaries at AN/I. Witty and succinct they rarely fail to make me smile. NtheP (talk) 21:24, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

- The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:25, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Leavine Family Racing

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation

I opened one after you suggested[1] I do so on the accounts making edits to John D'Acquisto. Could you look this[2] over please? I know you've been involved with Ryan Kirkpatrick's socks. There are three accounts and a IP I believe are being used by the same person.

Note I went to the COI board[3] with these editor's edits but nobody replied nor was any action taken.

How are you, your family, and home doing after Debbie? FYI I'm in Palm Beach County Florida....William 01:38, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

I'll take a look. And we're doing well, thanks - got 18" of rain and some of the roads are washed out, but aside from a muddy yard and power out for 25 hours, it wasn't that bad (Dennis back in '04? was worse). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:40, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, I've moved the page to the proper location, here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I've never accused anyone of sockpuppetry till today. This is too obvious to ignore and the IP was editing out D'Acquisto's convictions and putting in his unsubstantiated innocence claims. All those google docs he claims are proof are password protected. I'm glad to hear you're doing well....William 01:52, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

We needed the rain - just not all at once! And yeah, unfortunatly there's bad eggs out there (like Ryan, alas). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:53, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

If you have time, could you give some input here[4] please. I'll check in the morning for your reply if any. This is my last post for today. Good night.

Second Account

Due to the large number delsorting I've been doing over the last few months, I'm considering creating an alternative account on Maintenance grounds per WP:SOCK#LEGIT. Just wanted to get the opinion from a few administrators before proceeding, the last thing I want to happen is to be blocked. If you post a reply on your thoughts regarding the issue here I would really appreciate it. Thanks ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 00:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I might even run with the name you suggested rather like it. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 04:13, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

No prob. And it seemed appropriate. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:25, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Is this ok? Similar name, Userbox notifications & talk page redirected. Mainpage is'nt redirected but signature only has link user page so your informed straight away. ★☆ DUCKISPEANUTBUTTER☆★ 01:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. You might think about adding the 'Block first ask questions later' button (as here), but that's optional. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, don't think I'll need the shutdown button though. ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 02:33, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

One certainly hopes not! Glad I could help. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Michael Bishop

Why would Michael Bishop be disambiguated with (American football) when most of his career came outside of it? Did the standard change?►Chris Nelson^Holla! 01:35, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I might be mistaken there - I'm used to seeing "American football" as the dab. If it's not appropriate here feel free to change it back with no worries from me! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:22, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Oh okay. I'm pretty sure that's only if a guy plays only American football. I believe "gridiron football" is the proper disambiguation when guys have played multiple kinds.►Chris Nelson^Holla! 02:32, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry!

Sorry about awarding myself 8 Barnstars. I got so full of myself! --Jayemd (talk) 02:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with being an eager beaver starting out as long as you learn. Take a deep breath and read up on Wikipedia's policies, it'll help you be the best editor you can be. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:23, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Help with a username problem

Hey there, Bushranger! I just had a quick question about username violations. I encountered Username: ‎Kasihpreshil while patrolling Special: Newpages, which I noticed was clearly affiliated with the organization in the new page they created, Kasih Club. I recognize this a potential username violation, but I forgot which tag I put on their page and what noticeboard committee to contact. I was wondering if you, as a highly experienced and capable editor who know much about the inner working of this site, could help? Best regards. Robby The Penguin (talk) (contribs) 02:27, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, if you have Twinkle working on your Wikipedia account, you click on the 'ARV' tab at the top of the page when on their userpage, and select 'Username' from the drop-down box and fill things out from there. If you don't have Twinkle, you need to go to WP:UAA and fill out the report manually there. Hope that helps! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:29, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Re: AfD relistings

Hm, I hadn't noticed that. It's passed through before. Perhaps a bug? SwisterTwister talk 04:10, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Probably - that's happened to me sometimes in the past. I've fixed them all. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:11, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for 1976 Gwyn Staley 400

Thanks from the DYK team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Casey Elliott

Thanks from the DYK team. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Spidey sense tingling

Just came across Edmonton air crash. I have often thought that it must be doing friend Ryan's head in over how we keep finding him, and I am suspicious that he's deliberately changed his style in an attempt to stop us identifying him. Maybe this is someone else, maybe it's him again - I think it's worth keeping an eye on the article creator's edits. YSSYguy (talk) 08:15, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

I concur with YSSY, this could be the work of Ryan. A newcomer creating a crash in GB. Sounds like a duck quacking to me....William 13:26, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Yup, that certainly has the Duck-o-Meter's needle pointing to "Orange Sauce". Sent it to SPI. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

And it was, indeed, him. Blocked. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:07, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Good work, well spotted YSSYguy. MilborneOne (talk) 09:52, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh and can the experts look at Tianjin Airlines Flight 7554 created by User:Sickboyskydivelol9055 which also leads to dubious commons uploader Commons:User:Live678. MilborneOne (talk) 17:33, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Ding ding ding. "a attempted hijacking" - we have a winner! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

(eh-hem) What's the position vis-a-vis the Edmonton accident. Does it stack up as notable? I haven't yet discovered if Ministry rules changed - the editorial in Flight can be read either way. I think it is a least fairly accurate at the moment, and integrated sufficiently into wikipedia that anyone landing randomly on it will not get a bad impression of the project. GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:15, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I took a look over it; I think it needs a better title, but I believe it squeaks by on notability. (One of the refs claims "the most devastating plane crash in the country at the time" - was it indeed the deadliest?). - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:18, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

The Times at the time refered to it as the Edmonton Air Crash, I will look at adding some more information to the article to see if it stands up to noatbility. No mention of it being deadliest in the Times. MilborneOne (talk) 19:58, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough, always makes me think of Canada though. I think since people were killed on the ground it's 'notable enough' at least... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:13, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Elxis

You deleted the Elxis and Talk pages, but I notice that there had been a move on the main article a couple of hours after the AfD commenced, so there is still an article at Elxis CMS, carrying the AfD notice. AllyD (talk) 20:59, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

...aaand that's why I wrote WP:NOMOVE. Thanks for pointing that out, I've zapped the moved page now! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

2008 Detroit Indy Grand Prix

Hey, thanks for the review, and the source. I'm not sure yet if I'm going to work on developing this article like I've done for the 2012 race, or work on getting all of the Detroit Indy races to a decent level and then work back through on improving them towards B/GA class. It's a bit different to cricket, so I'm still learning the ropes a little with motor racing articles. Harrias ^talk 21:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, and glad to help out. I might try to slip in some details from that ref myself later if I have time. :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Air Crash Investigation (TV series)

There's an editor making large scale changes[5] to the article and even moved it[6]. Can you possibly take a look at this? The show goes by Mayday or ACI and there's an episode page involved too. The episode guide is Mayday but the show article is ACI and Mayday show article redirects to it. One way or another I think should matched up to the same name. Write back when you have time. I'll check back in Monday....William 02:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Replied on the talk page there. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 15:30, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter

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Hello My Fellow Wikiproject NASCAR Participant!

I'm thinking about creating a new Wikiproject! It's named Wikiproject Corvette (yes, I am a noted Corvette enthusiast!) Anyway, I might need help on getting approval from Wikipedia, recruitment, etc. Jayemd (talk) 20:08, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, but I know nada about setting up Wikiprojects. Good luck though! :) - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for C. E. Falk

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Indef IP block

Just a heads up, I don't know what the original block time was supposed to be, but you indef'd 31.170.110.24 (talk · contribs). -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 20:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Gah. The 'indef' option /really/ shouldn't be the default. Thanks for catching that - it was supposed to be a week so I've unblocked. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:17, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

I had a Gah myself with a pull-down menu--see User talk:HildegardPuwak. Drmies (talk) 22:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

You need this, apparently. Drmies (talk) 18:12, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. *slurrrrp* - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

A Corvette For YOU!

	Happy 4th Of July!
	As part of the fourth of July, I will be giving all of my friends Corvettes! Enjoy! Jayemd (talk) 13:45, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Bushranger

	You Should Check Out My Talk Page!
	I've added 6 more cars to my talk page, the Bugatti Veyron Super Sport, the Jaguar XJ220, the 1953 Hudson Hornet, the 1982 Buick Regal, the Land Rover Range Rover Sport, and the 1994 Toyota Supra! Jayemd (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

User:Cydebot

This bot is running amok and needs to be corrected - it is currently adding this:Category:American tempura painters to articles about artists who paint with tempera the category should read: Category:American tempera painters. Unless of course they all cook Japanese, someone needs to change the bot...Modernist (talk) 21:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

• Ouch. That's not the bot, that's a typo from the CfD nominiation that I didn't catch before sending it to the bot. I'll speedy the typo fixing. Sorry! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks...Modernist (talk) 21:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Blood on the Dance Floor

Hi, you were the salting admin on four (maybe more, but four's all I've found) titles regarding this musical group. I started a DRV to unsalt them before realizing that only one admin had done all the salting. The band has hit the Billboard 200 as of last week and so newly (or more strongly) meets WP:MUSIC. I guess if you agree you may go ahead and unsalt, or comment at the DRV thread, which is here. Thanks. Chubbles (talk) 21:37, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that it's likely notable enough now, but since the DRV's already running I'll go and chip in my support there. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:38, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Douglas World Cruiser Merge

Hi, can you take a look at merge proposal. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 09:21, 5 July 2012 (UTC).

DYK for Go Green Racing

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Music of the United States Navy

You closed the discussion as "delete", but it's still there.... Mangoe (talk) 01:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Huh, how'd that happen? Thanks for the catch. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:05, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Ding Ding

Clean up squad needed for User:Happylovedoingyourheadin:-), I have blocked them but they have been busy with accident articles. Do we need to raise Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ryan kirkpatrick ? MilborneOne (talk) 18:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh just for info the user name comes from YSSYguys comment now in your archive I have often thought that it must be doing friend Ryan's head in over how we keep finding him. MilborneOne (talk) 18:53, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I suspect Ryan is at work again. The Vulcan and 1946 Amsterdam articles I would be interested in re-posting them if they turn up being deleted....William 21:41, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

• Yuuuuuuup, thats-a him. Instant sunrise applied to the articles - I'll forwards the text along for a rewrite. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:13, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

DoggyRide

Any more in-depth information why this page was deleted? A product that created a new outdoors experience and has been copied many times should not be classified as Wikipedia:Run-of-the-mill from an encyclopedic perspective. Please open discussion for review to see if outdoors experiences should be nominated for inclusion. (talk) 19:16, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikipeida is not for promoting a product, no matter how innovative. It must meet the general notability guideline, which requires reliable secondary sources to establish. The article was deleted on the grounds of not passing the general notability guideline. If you believe it should not have been deleted, you may request deletion review. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:07, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 Women's British Open

The Women's British Open has been at the pages 2001 Women's British Open, 2002 Women's British Open etc through 2012. Somebody just pointed out that a Squash Championship that also goes by Women's British Open took the 2012 Women's British Open. I moved it to 2012 Women's British Open Squash Championship. The golf tournament isn't to be played till September and for the meantime the 2012 is a redirect. Eventually a page will be made there for the golf tournament. Could there be any problem with what I did? I did it in good faith....William 21:21, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd say that's fine - the golf tournament is (almost certainly) the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, and therefore should be at the non-disambiguated name with a hatnote to the squash tournament. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:08, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, The Bushranger. You have new messages at WT:SPACEFLIGHT.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

--W. D. Graham 20:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for The Mountain Road

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:03, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Need to run something through you first...

• Hey BR, does this (and the corresponding ref) look like an UNDUE and personal opinion to you? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 14:56, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
  • For the lede? Absolutly. It might be worth mentioning further down in the article with "is believed by some analysits..." - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:58, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
    • User:Hcobb has a very bad habit of adding such opinionated news pieces into so many of our article pages that I sometimes don't know what to do despite our advices/cautions to him... so, will taking him to WP:Requests for comment/User conduct help solve our problem? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 01:54, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
      • That sounds logical, given his unfortunate refusal to listen... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
        • You being the SysOp, would you care to do us the honour? Or would it still be fair to give him a last chance after his IDHT? (Read also this.) --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 08:30, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
          • Alas, I know nada about RFC/U, and RL has gotten pretty busy for me these days... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:50, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Expressway authorities

Category:Expressway authorities, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Imzadi 1979 → 10:55, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Edmonton air crash

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:04, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Kalappurackal

I wanted to notify you that User:Shjjose has continued submitting unwikified edits to this article, the recent edit is this. I believe the only way this user is going to learn how to edit the page properly is with a page protection. I have suggested the user to use his sandbox for constructing the article, but given that they have ignored previous warnings, the page protection may be the best option. Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 19:57, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, given their complete lack of communication to the point of refusal, and their repeated addition of noncomprehensible, unformatted text to the point of disruption to a single article, I've blocked them per WP:CIR. It's a shame, but.... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Vector/Monobook

I cannot figure out why my edit box has not reverted to the Monobook setting. I tried your suggestion, but to no avail. Frankly, I am at my wit's end... ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 15:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's always the old standby: clear your cache? If cache clearing, changing to Vector and back, and forcing a clean refresh (shift+refresh and/or alt+f5?) don't work, I have no idea. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:43, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I've done all of those things. Hence, my bewilderment. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 01:10, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (Administrator)

BR, I am writing to complain about an administrator, The Rambling Man, who has continually spoken to me in an inappropriate manner today, and will not stop harassing me even though I've asked him to stop. He has been condescending and sarcastic, and told me in a threatening tone that he would be monitoring my (IP's) activity with regard to banning me. After I asked him to please stop speaking to me in an unprofessional manner (because he's an administrator), he replied by saying that since Wikipedia does not pay him, my request was "irrelevant." He has also publicly mocked me, made accustions about me, and questioned my credibility as a good faith participant on this talk page. You can also see our discussions on the revision history page of my talk page. (As permitted by Wikipedia's user talk page guidelines, I clear my talk page after each comment has been replied to because I like to keep the page neat and clean.) I asked The Rambling Man previously to stop harassing me, but he refuses to do so. All the other administrators I've ever dealt with over the years have been friendly (or at least courteous), supportive and professional. This administrator, on the other hand, continues to go out of his way to be hostile.

As background, I have been editing on Wikipedia for several years and have always intended to do so in a good faith, productive manner. There have been a few times, at most, when administrators have contacted me about doing something incorrectly or inappropriately, and they always did so in a very nice, supportive way. It has never been my intention to edit in a malicious manner. My internet provider changes my IP automatically several times a month and, after speaking with a few administrators, decided against starting an account for personal reasons.

One final point. In the past few hours, after warning others, including me, not to edit war, The Rambling Man locked this article after he himself was a participant in an editing war in the article. Another user had reverted a factual edit I made regarding a table in the article, even after I fully explained in the comments why the original content was accurate. If you read the discussion, it's about the 20 vs 30 issue. It had been 20 in the article for years, which was correct. But The Rambling Man completely disregarded this fact. After I corrected it, with a full explanation, The Rambling Man ignored the explanation, reverted my revert, and then immediately locked the article. You can see the revision history at List of ATP number 1 ranked singles players.

As I am writing this to you, The Rambling Man he has just posted another harassing and sarcastic comment on my talk page. It says, "Sorry, but to whom will you report me? To the "ombudsman"?"

So not only is he continuing to harass and mock me, he is abusing his power as an administrator by locking that article without following proper protocol, and essentially stalking/threatening me by saying how he's now going to monitor my activity on Wikipedia.

Is this an acceptable way for an administrator to behave? I don't think so.

Can you help me with this harassment from The Rambling Man? I have asked him multiple times to stop. Please reply to me here instead of on my talk page. Thanks! --76.189.98.15 (talk) 21:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC) 21:55, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Hm. Sounds like you need to bring it up at WP:AN/I, to be honest - life's busy for me right now and I don't have time to look into anything deeply, but if there's an issue that's where it should be hashed out. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry I bothered you with this issue. I had read a talk page a while back where I read a user comment that said you were a great admin and would be a really good person to go to for a situation like this. I guess my hope was that you could advise The Rambling Man that as an administrator he should be respectful to users and, most importantly, should go out of his way to de-escalate an issue, not escalate it. I'm so used to admins being friendly, helpful and supportive, so it's surprising and sad to see an admin who behaves this way. When he told me that he doesn't get paid for this and so my asking him to be nice was "irrelevant," that really said so much about his attitude with regard to his responsibilities as an admin. Again, sorry for inconveniencing you with this and thanks for the reply. I don't really want to go through that process at WP:AN/I and am not interested in getting anyone in trouble. So I think I'm just going to leave Wikipedia. I wish you all the best. --76.189.98.15 (talk) 03:35, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry to hear that; I wish I could help more, but I honestly don't have the ability to get into an issue at the moment - I wish I did. Given the circumstances you describe it would indeed be unacceptable behavior. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:06, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Kalappurackal again

I have been monitoring this article since Sunday and noticed there is a new user with the name "George joseph kalappurackal". Although the user seems have slightly different habits as opposed to Shjjose, this new user has repeatedly restored unsourced content and a non-notable list of people. Would you consider protecting the article? Thanks, SwisterTwister talk 19:53, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected for a month, and sent to SPI too as  Sounds like a duck quacking into a megaphone to me. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:01, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

AfD closure (2nd nom)

Hi, regarding this AfD closure - two points. First, the AfD that you closed was a second nom, so the |page= in your {{oldafdfull}} points to the wrong discussion - it should have been |page=Steam World (2nd nomination). Second (much less important), where there is already an {{oldafdfull}}, it's merely necessary to add a second set of parameters to the existing one. These are named |date2= |result2= |page2= - the {{oldafdfull}} template will recognise up to 10 sets. I've fixed it. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I let the closing script apply the oldafdfull tags as part of the closing (I use this script), so that's a bug in the script, I think. Thanks for letting me know about that though. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:16, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

merge blackhawk

I underestimated the number of different articles, there are at least 7.

I created a rough draft in my sandbox, and I think most of the pages could be merged. The navy variants are a bit of a mess, but that's not a bad thing. I think the best solution would be to have a summary in the main page with a link to a more detailed page. A second page could list the different variants, and their specifications. A third page could possibly used for the Japanese H-60. I think the quality of the coverage of all the variants would be greatly improved doing it this way.TeeTylerToe (talk) 00:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Hm, well, I'd suggest posting a link to the sandbox at the WT:AIR page - that way opinions can be given before it goes live, and help can be given as well. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Tomy Drissi

I wanted to check to see whether you have plans to go for the 5x expansion. I asked on the nomination's talk page a week ago, but in case you didn't see that, I'm asking here. Please reply there, whatever you plan to do. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks; I had missed that. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:48, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

John D'Acquisto again aka Need some advice

He's back making unsubstantiated edits to his article. Click here.[7]. He has changed his tune slightly. Now he says his claims were reported in the San Diego Union-Tribune in 1999. I've taken a look, so far as I can tell without paying for archived articles, and there's nothing in the SDTU for 1999 that isn't in other stories I have have access to thanks to Google news, High Beam Research(which I have an account for thanks to WP), and newspaper archive which I subscribe to. I've in good faith tried verifying what he's saying but there's zilch.

D'Acquisto aka Fastballjohnd(He had other accounts but they have been blocked for sockpuppetry) has a COI and I have tried bringing it to the COI board once but got zero reply.[8] Would you recommend me taking it to ANI? Please write back....William 18:03, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I'd say at this point it's risen to AN/I level, yeah (surprised his original account didn't get blocked more than 48h for the socks)... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:03, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I'll bring it to ANI tomorrow or on the weekend....William 00:16, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I posted to ANI and only one editor replied. The discussion was never closed but someone archived it. What should we do?...William 21:09, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll unarchive it; alas, if it gets archived again, that's a de facto "no action necessary". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Admin's Barnstar
		Thanks for mopping up the mess at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The US network TV schedule articles (2nd nomination). I'd have helped out but I'd gone to bed when you posted at ANI. Warden (talk) 07:30, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, and thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:56, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Another one

This guy has slipped through the cracks. The "cause" section for the Aerolineas Argentinas crash is also a copy-and-paste, complete with spelling mistake. YSSYguy (talk) 16:38, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo

There is persistent ongoing vandalism at AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo. From numerous IPs (templating useless). Can you assist? Thanks, Anir1uph (talk) 23:00, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Page protected for two weeks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:19, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Just noting that several other RoC related pages are suffering from the same running dog splitist agenda attacks. Hcobb (talk) 23:22, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:RFPP needs to be pinged then I believe... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:23, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance! Anir1uph (talk) 23:35, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Motor racing series articles

Please be more careful about how you move the motor racing articles. Moving Australian Formula 3 was inapporpriate as Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship is a name to does not represent the article correctly. Australian Drivers' Championship has its own article and Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship is not about the whole article. A geneorus portion refers to the 1960s version of Formula 3. --Falcadore (talk) 04:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship is the name the series itself uses for itself. Wikipedia's standard is that the current name of an article's subject is used for the title of the article, regardless of how much of an article covers the subject under former names. The fact that the current name of the series is Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship dictates that that should also be the article name; the amount of the article devoted to the 1960s Austalian Formula 3 championship is irrelevant. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:08, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Missing the point. The article is NOT about the Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship. It is merely one of several topics discussed. The altered title does not reflect the other topics of the article. --Falcadore (talk) 04:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The article is about Australia's Formula 3 series. Which is currently raced under the name of Formula 3 Australian Drivers Championship, yes? Therefore the name should be at the current name of the series, even though the article includes information on past incarnations of the series that ran under different names. We don't have Winston Cup Series as a seperate article from Sprint Cup Series, or Busch Series seperate from Nationwide Series... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

The exteneded logic of that is that Alfa Romeo in motorsport should be renamed to Autodelta. Or renaming Maserati in motorsport to Officine Alfieri Maserati. You're taking a broadbrush multi-topic article and naming it after one part of it.

It is NOT about the Australian Formula 3 championship - it collects all Australian Formula 3 topics which includes the original Aus F3 category which was not related to International/European F3 racing. --Falcadore (talk) 04:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Formula One is not labelled FIA World Drivers' Championship is it? --Falcadore (talk) 04:24, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

That's per WP:COMMONNAME. But fair enough. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Additionally the comparison to Winston Cup falls over because NASCAR has its own article separate to the Winston Cup article. Which is not the case here. V8 Utes Racing Series should probably be changed back for the smae reason. V8 Utes certainly complies with COMMONNAME. --Falcadore (talk) 04:34, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Except it's also ambiguous; 'V8 Utes' could refer to the street utes with a V8. Note that it's National Football League instead of NFL, for instance, despite the latter being far and away WP:COMMONAME. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Good Humor
	For your archiving comments over at WP:ANI, like this comment. Keep up the good work! -- Luke (Talk) 00:21, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:21, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:STICK

• Watch "The NeverEnding Story" German: Die unendliche Geschichte, and suddenly the tune of "The NeverEnding Story (song)" sticks in your mind forever~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 04:04, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  • The Stick, the Bad and the Ugly? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:12, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

IPeony

• On Brazilian aircraft carrier São Paulo (A12), was it a newbie or a returnee? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 01:45, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

No idea. Based on other edits probably a veteran. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:04, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Good question, actually! Most other editors assume I'm a vandal, just because I'm an IP.

To answer the question: Neither, but I have edited WP before.

What I would like to know: Why haven't you asked me? You already know where my user page is.

Now that we established that I'm a real person, can we stop the templating, please? --91.10.23.83 (talk) 07:36, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Templating happens when necessary, be it IP or user, newbie or veteran. If you don't want to be templated, don't do the things you are templated for. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:34, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I prefer dialogue, but I'll keep that in mind that you prefer templates! --91.10.23.83 (talk) 08:38, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

I prefer dialogue as well, but for the initial notification, that's what the templates are for. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 08:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

• BR, as you can probably see on the discussion page by now, I don't think the IP is here to contribute or improve Wikipedia.... can we just block it and end the unnecessary WP:DRAMA? --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 13:59, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

That would be an easy solution, just block people who disagree with you.

I posed some very specific questions on the talk page (number 3. in each of my last two contributions), please help bringing this to a solution by answering them. --91.10.36.86 (talk) 14:57, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Alternatively, you could drop the stick. - The Bushranger posting as Aerobird from a public computer ^Talk 21:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Jayemd

I see you've also interacted with User:Jayemd. Did you notice this? He's made several changes to notices put on this talk page. His edits to both active users' talkpages[9] and inactive users(some blocked)[10][11][12] are odd to say the least, and perhaps annoying to active users. I don't want to discourage him from constructive article editing (and I have little knowledge of the areas he edits in), but he needs to stop messing around, especially with active users. Dougweller (talk) 09:53, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

He seems to be an overeager kid (his userbox says he's 14), but I'm unfortunatly getting more and more of a vibe that he may be, for all his eagerness, WP:NOTHERE, alas. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:25, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

We'll see what happens now. Thanks for your help. Dougweller (talk) 10:37, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Just a query

I had a query out of curiosity, although it may help me to learn more about Wikipedia. I see that the article Taste the Blood of Singapore Sling was at Wikipedia: Articles for deletion for July 7, but it got moved to July 14. As a matter of interest, was there any reason why this was so? Thank you, you can leave any responses on the talk page of my userpage. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks for your swift response - there is no need to reply, as I think your comment has clarified things nicely. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 18:49, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Racing series champions

Thanks for answering my questions here and here. Please consider my objection (in the latter case, as I did not object in the former) withdrawn, and I have closed the full CFD as 'speedy rename'. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 21:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

No problemo, always glad to explain things! - The Bushranger posting as Aerobird from a public computer ^Talk 22:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Category:Competitive/Cooperative online role-playing games

I closed Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 17#Category:Fantasy societal MMORPGs but am not sure how to handle Category:Competitive/Cooperative online role-playing games. Some of its members also appear in Category:Cooperative video games and one or more RPG categories; others, however, such as Guild Wars Factions, do not. Would you please take a look at what needs to be done? Should the category simply be deleted or somehow upmerged? Thanks, -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 05:34, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

IIRC, when I nominated it, I noted that it was very similar to the contents pf Category:Guild Wars itself - I checked the contents and they were all otherwise properly categorised, so that's why I put it up for simple deletion. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:24, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Much appreciated, thanks. -- Black Falcon ^(talk) 16:14, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only, please

Gah! It was driving me nuts where that "One Ping Only" thing came from on your sig. For some reason, it just randomly came to me while I was sending a work-related e-mail, wasn't even on Wikipedia. I've seen it for so long, THFRO is one of my faves. Stupid brain is stupid.

Roodog2k (talk) 14:28, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Heh, my brain does that sometimes. And aside from the stock footage used for Robby Jackson's crash (grumble grumble) that was indeed an awesome movie. More than can be said for some of its sucessors! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:11, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

I stopped at Red October, though I was considering watching The Sum of All Fears through my Amazon prime account. Maybe I won't. Anyway, speaking of brains, I urge you to look-up a comic on The Oatmeal. If my brain were an imaginary friend. I laughed myself into an asthma attack. Roodog2k (talk) 14:24, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Hehe. As for SoAF, they (a) thought it was a good idea to reboot the series in the fourth movie, and (b) thought it was a good idea to cast Ben Affleck as Jack Ryan(!!). Ugh! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:26, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Minor barnstar
	For this! Too good to go unrewarded. Zad68 17:49, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:12, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Requesting page protection

On 2 pages: Fourth-generation jet fighter and Multirole combat aircraft have been suffering from repeated additions against the community-accepted article state by an ip-editor, using changing and multiple ip addresses. Efforts to 'talk' have failed. Can you assist. Thanks! Anir1uph | talk | contrib 11:54, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Done and done. The Indo-Pakistan fighter mafias are the worst... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:35, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Sadly, yeah. Anir1uph | talk | contrib 17:40, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Just Wondering...

Is it ok if I censor curse words in people's posts with asterisks? Jayemd (talk) 20:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Why not just undo their posting with a note? I'd hate to see the restriction on editing other people's comments be loosened. Hcobb (talk) 21:33, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't undo anything that's not on your own talk page - and in that case simply remove all of it. Do not simply refactor their comments; thats a no-no, with the only exception being unambiguous WP:BLP policy violations. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:52, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

WP:NOTCENSORED, too. - Ahunt (talk) 00:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Legitimate alternate accounts

I noticed that you sometimes post on public computers as User: Aerobird. I was wondering if use of these accounts is limited to admins, or could a non-admin such as myself could use one. The computers at my school library have been attacked by viruses frequently, and a sock also terrorizes the IP as well. I already had some usernames in mind, but that's counting your chickens before they hatch. Best regards. Robby The Penguin (talk) (contribs) 04:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

The details are at WP:SOCK#LEGIT - they're available to any user in good standing who doesn't use them dishonestly and who clearly and unambigiously links the two accounts, per the details there. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I have an alternate account but have never used it. A little while back my AC looked like it might be out for a while and I'd be editing from a public library(No AC might exasperate my health issues) possibly like you did after the tropical storm recently....William 18:01, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure our local library is (as) secure (as such things get), but it's always better safe than sorry. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:19, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, i'm creating the new account. User: Penguins in space is what i'm hoping for. Robby The Penguin (talk) (contribs) 00:31, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense. Don't forget to include the userboxes that indicate the alternate account, and you should be all good! *waves flippers* And you didn't see anything... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

County Road 4050 (Volusia County, Florida)

Can you advise anything else to add to this road? I added the historic district info to the road which saved it initially, but it seems the usual suspects are hellbent on deleting it. Gamweb (talk) 06:32, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm. Well, even with the historic districts, I can see the argument for a merge to the list. What I'd suggest is trying to find more information about the bridge - basically making it a bridge article, with the road information added on as the road crosses the bridge? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:56, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I have my suspicions

....about this new User. Cheers from wintry Oz YSSYguy (talk) 14:33, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Quack, quack quack quack-quack! Blocked and sent for CU. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 17:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

If caught earlier and nominated correctly as the creation of a sockpuppet, United Airlines Flight 9963 would have been speedily deleted. But the person nominating it did it for no context, another editor took down the speedy tag and added to the article, then yet another editor expanded it more. This is a non notable cargo plane crash and I started a AFD....William 17:45, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

• Any thoughts on User:Jack from Manchester air accidents and Ireland, ding ding. MilborneOne (talk) 21:14, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
  • If it smells like a duck... you take the lead this time? I'm just about to head out. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:15, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thanks for the Schlock Mercenary reference, I am reading it now! Arcandam (talk) 02:12, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• "More Guiness to the front! Somebody sounds stressed, and I think it's a me!" Thanks - always good to share one of my favourite webcomics. Given the length of its archive we'll see you in a week! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:14, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• Hm, you make me curious by saying "one of my favourite"; are there any more that you can recommend? I've read XKCD and Dinosaur Comics. Arcandam (talk) 02:26, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

• There's quite a long list. But I'll suggest a couple for when you finish Schlock's Archive Panic: Girl Genius, Sluggy Freelance, and Vexxarr. Oh, and Starslip. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 04:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Check out my new edit!

My new edit is Armageddon 2000 and has recieved a new Event section (my first ever section created!) Could you see the work I've done? (I am sorry for the lack of references on the article but I did use one reference but I forget the name of it! Jayemd (talk) 10:45, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Not really a wrestling person, but not bad work. One thing you need though is more secondary sources. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

Thanks for the barnstar, totally unexpected! Enjoy these stroopwafels (actually really nice!) Osarius Talk 16:30, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Om nom nom - thanks! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:06, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

User:150.101.100.194

Hello, Bushranger. User:150.101.100.194 will not stop making edits that are vandalism. All six of the edits so far today have been vandalism. Most of the edit history shows childish edits that are solely to be disruptive. The IP's talk page shows many warnings for this type of editing. Can you please do something about it? Thanks! --76.189.114.180 (talk) 05:52, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

• Yow. And they have a block log as long as your arm already. I've blocked him for six months (since last time, it was three...), thanks for pointing this out! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 05:54, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

"Yow"... haha. You're very welcome and thanks for handling it so quickly! --76.189.114.180 (talk) 06:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Mentioned you

Hi!
I have mentioned you in this discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Film/Indian_cinema_task_force#Redirected. Nothing serious on your part. But thought of informing you. Not to mention, if you wish you can join in. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 07:51, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:07, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Volusia Mall

I'm not really a shopping center editor, but I have local interest in seeing the article on Volusia Mall expanded, maybe get up to GA. I found several newspaper articles archived on the Internet, which may help. I dropped them on the article's Talk Page. Maybe you could take a look and see what could be useful. Gamweb (talk) 08:24, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll take a look when I get the chance. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:08, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Suspicious IPs and newbies

• Please read User talk:Tiptoety#Need advice/help from neutral third party, anytime when you're ready I'll second your motion/notion. --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 17:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Hmm. Honestly I don't have the time at the moment to go digging for diffs myself either. Perhaps ignoring the screaming baby cockatoo while preparing the orange sauce for when the WP:ROPE runs out might be best... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Dagnabit~! (PS:Just a suggestion!) --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 23:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
      • I prefer Alpha-Bits, myself! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:22, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Page moves

Hi Bushranger,

Noticed you;re an admin from the ANI page. Was wondering if you could fix a little cock-up that I might have done by accident, although my head is that messed up with Olympic volunteer duties, it could have been someone else who has messed up. Anyhow, Independent Olympic Participants at the 2012 Summer Olympics (IOP) was nominated for a move request, and loads of talks went on over it. There is now official sources to show the article name is incorrect, and that it should be Independent Olympic Athletes at the 2012 Summer Olympics (IOA). From what I noticed one user did a cut/paste manoeuvres of content from IOP to IOA, and then added redirect to IOP page. I'm pretty sure that isn't the way RMs are done, so I reverted the action and attempted a non-admin move. But now it won't move and says only an admin can do it. I'm assuming the redirect thing is a cause of that. But I'm not entirely sure. Would you be able to fix it for me? Thanks, Wesley Mouse 23:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The page should now be at Independent Olympic Athletes at the 2012 Summer Olympics with redirects from Independent Olympic Athlete at the 2012 Summer Olympics and Independent Olympic Participants at the 2012 Summer Olympics. Hope that helps! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:33, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

You are a legend, thank you ever so much. I will be able to sleep easier tonight now, and not be spending tomorrow worrying about it. Wesley Mouse 23:35, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Geocode

User Cmburn (talk · contribs), who has a (quite properly declared) COI with regard to the term Geocode, has asked both at WP:REFUND#geocode and at User talk:JohnCD#Reestablish Geocode Page for the page to be restored. I have referred him to you as closer of WP:Articles for deletion/Geocode, but link you to his requests to save him having to copy all the details out again here. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 14:23, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. I'll take a look at things, thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:26, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding deletion of Category:Bangalore Cricketers!!

I see that you have renamed Category:Bangalore Cricketers to Category:Royal Challengers Bangalore cricketers. According to me this is totally inappropriate. Not all Bangalore cricketers are Royal Challenger Bangalore cricketers and vice versa. Royal Challenger Bangalore is a team consisting of Bangalore cricketers, Non-Bangalore Karnataka cricketers, non-Karnataka Indian cricketers and non-Indian international cricketers. For example, while Rahul Dravid is both a Bangalore cricketer as well as a Royal Challenger Bangalore cricketer, on the other hand Virat Kohli is a Delhi cricketer but still a Royal Challenger Bangalore cricketer. As a matter of fact, The parent categories of Category:Royal Challengers Bangalore cricketers are also incorrect. Being listed in a sub-category, one would believe that these players automatically belong to its parent categories which is wrong. Atleast half of the cricketers listed in Category:Royal Challengers Bangalore cricketers don't belong to Category:Karnataka cricketers as well as Category:People from Bangalore which are its parent category. The old nomenclature was correct. And I believe you should revert the changes. Skagrawal4k (talk) 19:32, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Hm. What I'd suggest you do is create Category:Cricketers from Bangalore, et. al., and populate it with those who are from Bangalore but not members of the club. That would allow for both the by-city/district categories and the by-club categories. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 19:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Roger Federer "widely considered to be the greatest player of all time" dispute

Hi Bushranger. Could you please read this talk page discussion on Roger Federer and reply to it with your opinion? It's all about one matter. Is the statement that Federer is "widely considered to be the greatest player of all time" appropriate on Wikipedia? Or does it violate WP:WEASEL and other guidelines? It is in the opening sentence of the article. Thank you. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 10:59, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll pop on over and take a look. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for "popping" Bushranger! Haha. It's amazing to me that the current wording ever got through. It had previously been appropriately worded (per WP guidelines) for a long time, but I've been told that a few editors essentially bullied other editors into changing it to the weasly version. I hope you can watch the discussion so that we can stay on track and get it fixed soon. By the way, someone just pointed out in the talk page discussion that Donald Bradman had a similar, inappropriate statement in the opening sentence. I just put in an edit request to have it corrected. Thanks again for giving your great input on the Federer issue. It's always nice to have someone who's extremely knowledgeable on these issues to share their thoughts and provide guidance. And the bonus is that you're an administrator, so your opinion will be taken seriously. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 17:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I'm glad to help out when and where I can. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:27, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, one of the users in the discussion, User:TennisAnalyst004, is causing problems. Another administrator, User:Slakr, made this edit and then the user, User:TennisAnalyst004 simply disregarded Slakr's edit comments and reverted the revert. Then, TennisAnalyst removed the "citation needed" "for whom?" tags on the content that the administrator removed. here's that edit. Slakr is even explained in the [[Talk:Roger_Federer#Opening_sentence:_.22widely_considered_to_be_the_greatest_player_of_all_time.22}talk page discussion]] why he was doing the revert: "Since this change was relatively recent (it doesn't exist before [5]), I moved it out of the lead and made the wording a little more neutral. It's clear that several people/sources believe him to be the best player ever, but it's far removed from the defining, non-subjective facts of his career—the statistics and awards otherwise either do or don't speak for themselves, depending on the reader, but we're not parrots to the judgment calls of others. As a rule of thumb, avoid coercing the reader to accept judgment statements derived from those made by others; that's part of the nature of WP:WEASEL and WP:NPOV." Slakr questioned TennisAnalyst about it here. Slakr is upset now and so won't even revert the revert that TennisAnalyst did. Can you please revert it? I would, but I'd rather have an administrator do it. It's just amazing to me that the user would revert and admin's revert while we're in the middle of a consensus-buidling discussion on the talk page. If you look at the talk page discussion, you will see how Slakr went out of his way to explain and educate everyone on why the disputed sentence is improper (see his Forrest Gump example). Haha. Anyway, can you please revert the two reverts that TennisAnalyst did here (the revert he did of the admin, plus the revert of the tags)? --76.189.114.243 (talk) 23:24, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that the version Slakr had was better. But now I've provided two alternative less-weasely/POV versions. Of course, I'm WP:INVOLVED now, so... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. But guess what? Your revert was just reverted. This is getting very frustrating. Unbelievable, a consensus-building discussion going on and an administrator's edit gets reverted not once, but now twice. Can you please do something about this? When you revert it back, can you please include in the edit comment not to edit that content again until a consensus is reached? Thanks, again! --76.189.114.243 (talk) 01:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Administrator's edits are no more valid than anyone else's. It's frustrating, but I think the best thing to do from here is to discuss with the article as-is for the moment. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

This is an example of when trying to help this project sucks. We're in the middle of a consensus discussion about a contentious claim and one of the participants edits the questionable text! And this after being told by TWO administrators that it violates Weasel and NPOV. What's the point of a consensus discussion if someone in the discussion is just going to do whatever he wants? This issue isn't about preferred wording, it's an issue of wording that is not allowed per WP guidelines. And it's in the opening sentence! Please revert it back and note that it shouldn't be changed until consensus is reached. Thanks. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 03:16, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Unforutunatly, being the encylopedia everybody can edit doesn't mean it's the encyclopedia everyone should edit. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Haha, great point! Thanks for being a great admin. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 08:35, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Can you vote on the issue on the Federer talk page? The proposed version uses "many" and mine uses "some" because I think we need to steer clear of being weasely. :) --76.189.114.243 (talk) 08:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help. Might be best to avoid !voteing on my part though (WP:CANVASS); I personally think 'many' is better (as there do seem to be 'many' but YMMV! - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:05, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

173.84.185.41

Any chance of having a look at my block of User:173.84.185.41 for breaking 3RR on the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey. I reverted his edit once so just looking for an independant review, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 19:56, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Looks good from here. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:37, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

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User Fastballjohnd

You were a participant in the ANI discussion[13] about what should be done in regards to this user. I'm just letting you know that he may have created yet another sockpuppet account. I have opened an investigation[14] and have asked for a check user to be done. TB, if you could check the new SPI for me, I'd appreciate it. This message is a heads up. If you have any reply for me, write it here or at the ANI . I will keep a lookout....William 14:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I can't run the check myself, but this one does carry the scent of orange sauce... - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:48, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

More Hccob...

• See Talk:Alenia Aermacchi M-346 Master, he's back at it again. Someone needs to tell him that not everyday is Sunday... oh wait, we already did but the elephant gun just can't penetrate that thick hide. Facepalm... --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 22:10, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Proposal for Federer Talk Page

I think an admin should check in a few times a week, maybe more regularly, to supervise the discussion and try to prevent personal attacks and edit warring. It's clear to me that User 76 is trying his mighty best to get the "greatest of all time" reference in the second sentence deleted. I hope other contributors come forward and resist his efforts. (This was a prediction I made a week ago, and it turns out to have been correct.)

For the record, I think the fact that so many legends (Laver, Sampras, and the others) have said Federer is the "greatest player of all time" is pretty noteworthy and must be included in any redaction of the second sentence. TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Lmao, are you EVER going to leave Bushranger alone? You actually started a new section on his talk page for this? Do you really think he gives a crap about that sentence or what legends said it? And this is "User 76's" suggested text, which is clear as day in the voting section, in bold print: "Some of the most successful players in tennis history, as well as a few sports websites, have called him the greatest player of all-time." Do you see the words "greatest player of all time" in there? So stop with all the paranoia. We're glad to hear about the prediction you made a week ago. One little problem, though. I wasn't on Wikpedia a week ago. Haha. Well, I offered you the opportunity to work productively with those of us working today to improve the article. I guess you'd rather continuing this ranting. And for the record, you might want to open your mind to the suggestions of others who DO want to remove all traces of weasly language because they want the article to be as credible as possible and believe that only objective, sourced facts should be used. Even if we had 30 sources that said he's the greatest, it wouldn't eliminate the fact that there are many more players who have not said it, not to mention the fact that many people in the world simply feel that someone else is the best ever (Laver, Borg, Sampras, etc.). It is not even close to being an open and shut case. I think it's Federer, but I understand there are those who just don't agree. When I'm working on the article, I'm not a Roger Federer fan; I'm an unbiased editor. Interesting that you've been fighting everyone so hard on this and refusing to accept this fact. Your choice. Just please stop disrupting our efforts. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 19:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

IMHO, the "greatest of all time" shouldn't be in the lead at all. But that's what the discussion on the talk page is aimed to resolve. And please discuss it there, not here. Thanks. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:02, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, it should be in the fourth paragraph, where it was for quite awhile. Did you know that you are widely considered the greatest Wikipedia administrator of all time? Is that weasly? Haha. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 21:17, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Roger Federer continual reverting of contentious sentence

B-ranger, in the past 24 hours three administrators, including you, have appropriately removed the "widely considered to be the greatest of all time" language in the opening sentence of Roger Federer, pending a consensus in the ongoing talk page discussion. However, users continue to revert what the administrators did. I reverted the most recent two reverts so that the objectionable language is gone. But I do not want to violate the 3 reverts rule. User:Gproteinb, who apparently just started an account, is the most recent user to put back the contentious language (with no edit comments), but I am very confident that he/she is a sock of someone either involved in the talk page discussion and/or one of the users who has reverted an administrator's edit in the past 24 hours. It is the ONLY edit the user has done so apparently he/she created the account just to make this edit. In our talk page discussion, it has essentially been unanimously agreed that the "widely considered" language violates WP:WEASEL (and WP:NPOV) and so no one should ever be putting that language back into the article, especially after there have been three administrator edits removing it. The only thing we're trying to do in the discussion now is agree on final, new language. Can you please do something to stop the reverting back to the weasly language? Thanks. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 20:44, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE: It's been reverted two more times since my original message to you. The three admins removed the entire sentence, pending a talk page consensus. But all these editors continue put back the sentence with their own language preference. User:Wolbo is the latest to revert, even though he's been actively involved in the talk page discussion and knows very well from years of editing that you don't change text-in-question until consensus is reached. By the way, I think User:Gproteinb is the sock to TennisAnalyst004 who was the biggest advocate to keep the weasly language. B-ranger, this is out of control and needs to be stopped. The sentence needs to be completely removed until a consensus is reached. Otherwise, there's absolutely no point in having talk page discussions. Thanks. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 22:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

• At this point, removing it again will just make things worse, alas. I'd suggest taking it to WP:ANI, since he doesn't appear to be interested in discussing. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 22:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I think if would make things much BETTER if (1) an admin does it and (2) clearly advises in the edit comments not to put back the sentence in any form until consensus is reached. That's the part that hasn't been done. A very clear comment like that would not be argued among the talk page participants, except by TennisAnalyst who is the one person causing problems in the discussion. But other editors wouldn't allow him to put the objectionable sentence back. On his last revert, he put a false edit comment that says admins said to put back the contentious sentence until consensus is reached, which of course is completely the opposite of what was said. That is definitely NOT what admins and the discussion participants want. Thanks! --76.189.114.243 (talk) 23:13, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

I think Wolbo might have a reasonable compromise wording. Ed, if you're (talk page stalker)ing here can you take a look at this too? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree that Wolbo's suggestion might be very reasonable. However, he still had no right to simply insert it unilaterally when we're obviously in the middle of a deep discussion and voting about it. At least not without asking first in the discussion. I saw your note on the Federer talk page. Sorry, but I've been putting up with TennisAnalyst's bullying and harrassment for the past 24 hours. You saw what he posted there (warning me, as if he is some authority here) and going around to people's talk pages trash talking about me, even though he's been told my intentions are good and my suggestions make sense. It's just that the other editors aren't willing to follow the WP guidelines as closely as I think we should. If I'm correct, that warning TennisAnalyst left me on the Federer talk page violates some type of WP rule. I remember an admin saying that somewhere recently that you're not allowed to use an article's talk page for something like that. If I'm right, can you warn him about it? And am I allowed to remove that warning post? Thanks for you calm, reasoned handling of this whole situation. Oh, one last thing. someone just edited Wolbo's wording from "several" back to "many"... can you at least put it back to several, since we agree his version for now is reasonable? :) --76.189.114.243 (talk) 00:34, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help how I can. He does seem to be somewhat...WP:OWNish. I'd suggest not removing it - I'm not quite sure if it fits the criterion for removal. I'll ping an other admin (The_ed17, he's a good guy) to take a look; I've been having major connection issues today and can't hardly get online. :( - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 00:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

FYI... this was my suggested version: "Some of the most successful players in tennis history, and others who have been involved in the sport, have called him the greatest tennis player of all time." I also said that I would be totally fine with "Several" instead of "Some". I just didn't think "Many" would be appropriate right now because the current sources just don't support it (even though I absolutely believe it's true). --76.189.114.243 (talk) 00:50, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

I see you got someone to fully protect it. You're the best. Thanks. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 01:40, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, I wish you would have asked me to give my side of the story rather than jump to 76's defense. I should think impartiality would've compelled you to do so.

I have been on the Federer talk page for over a year now and have participated in many discussions about the opening paragraph. User 76 arrived just in the last few days. Just so you know, most contributors to the talk page going back at least a year have agreed that the "greatest of all time" line is essential in the opening paragraph. You should also know that, despite a 3-1 consensus having been reached yesterday about the wording, User 76 DELETED the whole sentence on two occasions. Wolbo and I had to warn him about his behavior.

Credit to you for taking time out of your schedule to help resolve this matter. I would also appreciate it if you could tell 76 to keep away from me and stop acting like an hysterical child. The guy strikes me as psychologically imbalanced. Thank you. TennisAnalyst004 (talk)

Well, I looked things over and it seemed to me that (while perhaps taken a bit...vehemently), it did seem slightly strongly worded, hence my actions. However, I'll try to examine things a bit more thoroughly in the future - connection problems here made things difficult - and I'm glad to see that things seem to be working out. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

After that little rant by TennisAnalyst I think he might want to reevaluate who the "psychologically imbalanced hysterical child" is. Haha, my wife and I enjoyed that one. Hopefully, he'll learn the rules of editing an encyclopedia and how to participate productively in future discussions, stop going around to people's talk pages to defame other editors (as he's done here), and stop his edit-warring as evidenced most recently here, here and here. And based on this conversation that TA initiated with Schpinbo, it is clear that I am not the only editor who has been subjected to his outbursts and threats. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 06:09, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Let's see now:

1) You've littered the talk page with emotional outbursts and personal attacks -- and rather long ones at those.

2) You've complained loudly about the wording of the second sentence even though a 3-1 consensus was reached.

3) You've deleted the second sentence of the article on several occasions and had to be warned about the 3-revert rule.

4) When I suggested to the other contributors that the page should be protected, you attacked both me and my suggestion. And then, when somebody actually did protect the page (and the consensus wording), you acted as though you approved of the decision all along.

Yes, I would say that the termites have been dining on your brain for quite a long time now. TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 10:33, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, I strongly suspect that User 76 is Schpinbo. He tried 2 weeks ago to get the "greatest of all time" reference deleted in the opening paragraph, but failed to do so. It's very silly of User 76 to pretend that I've had issues with others when in fact I've only had an issue with him. Regards, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 10:36, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

BR, please have a check done to verify I am not Schpinbo. And then you can read Schpinbo's talk page to understand this is a pattern with TA. Like I teach my kids, bullies like TA need to dealt with. While my wife thinks the guy is humorous in a stalkerish sort of way, it's important to deal with irrational bullies head-on. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 12:13, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

As far his other claims, my editing history will show I reverted two times yesterday to put back the text agreed upon by administrators and others, pending a consenus on the talk page. Whereas, TA put back the MOST contentious ("widely considered") version THREE times in 24 hours (on July 14-15), plus yesterday, as his edit history will show.

Mulitple other editors have been unsuccessful in their attempts to teach TA that the 3RR rule is violated when FOUR reverts are done to the same page within 24 hours. He doesn't get that two is not four, and that my two were good faith to adhere to what administrators had previously decided, whereas his was bad faith to purposely put back the most contentious version, and doing so while in the middle of a consensus discussion on the talk page.

As far as his claim that I want "greatest of all time" removed from the sentence, the documented proof (the talk page discussion) verifies that I NEVER asked for those words to be removed; only that I wanted the words "widely considered" removed. The talk page will verify that my suggested text is, "Some of the most successful players in tennis history, as well as a few sports websites, have called him the greatest player of all-time." It was administrators who wanted the contentious text removed, pending consensus.

TA, show Bushranger and I a diff to prove this claim you made: "When I suggested to the other contributors that the page should be protected, you attacked both me and my suggestion." The fact of the matter is that it was Bushranger who initiated the process of getting the page protected after he and I discussed the issues going on with the Federer article. And right after it was protected, I posted this comment to Bushranger: "I see you got someone to fully protect it. You're the best. Thanks." Look up ^^. So show us just one diff where I opposed or attacked the idea. We'll be looking for it.

B-ranger, I would very much encourage a check be done to verify that I am not User:Schpinbo, and then once completed, have TA banned for this malicious, defamatory accusation, which he has also made on the Federer talk page. So when TA says he hasn't had problems with anyone else, you can take a look at Schpinbo's talk page and see very clearly what I'm talking about. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 12:26, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, I see that User 76 is now spamming your talk page. I would encourage you and any other admin here to read over the Federer talk page carefully; I think it should be clear who is playing the part of stalker and troll and who is not. You should also review the history of the Federer article itself. If you do, you'll find that User 76 has deleted the second sentence of the article on numerous occasions and refused to comply with the wishes of the majority of talk contributors. Regards, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 13:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

TA, show us the diffs to prove your claim that I "deleted the second sentence of the article on numerous occasions." And we're still waiting for the diffs where you claim I opposed protecting the article. I've already provided the diffs where you put back the "widely considered" version three times on July 14-15 and again yesterday, even after Wolbo put on the temporary "several" compromise version. Anyway, show us the diffs.--76.189.114.243 (talk) 13:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

TA, some questions from my wife: (1) Do you actually believe that you can come into this talk page, in the thread of my and Bushranger's discussion, and make numerous unsubstantiated claims and insulting comments, without being challenged? Seriously? (2) Did you bully kids when you were in school? and (3) What makes you think that what I am doing is "spamming," yet what you are doing is not, particularly when I started this thread between BR and myself. Of course, you will never answer any of these questions or provide any diffs to back up your multitude of claims because that's what you've always done. But I think my wife's questions do a good job of sending the message. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 14:00, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

B-ranger, I wanted to make you aware of this harassment complaint about TennisAnalyst that Schpinbo reported on July 15, 2012. It almost mirrors what Tennis has done to me. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 15:48, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, you can also at this Admin noticeboard exchange in which Tennis turns hostile towards NeilN after Neil points out Tennis's trolling and his "provocative and misleading" talk page section header. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 16:18, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, here are the two occasions on July 25 on which User 76 deleted the second sentence of the article. Notice that Wolbo and I, as well as others, had to undo his deletions:

18:25, 25 July 2012‎ 76.189.114.243(talk)‎ . . (111,740 bytes) (+90)‎ . .(You cannot revert to a version that has almost unanimously been determined to violate WP:WEASEL in the discussion. Multiple admins replaced it with a temporary/non-weasel version, but other editors inexplicably removed it.)

20:29, 25 July 2012‎ 76.189.114.243(talk)‎ . . (111,740 bytes) (+90)‎ . . (Undid revision 504157252 by Gproteinb (talk)invalid rv - no edit comments given, language has already been determined in talk page discussion to violate WP:WEASEL)

User 76 was dead wrong to say that "multiple admins replaced it with a temporary/non-weasel version." In fact, only one did, an admin named Slakr. On July 24 User 76 begged him to alter/delete the second sentence, and Slakr replied to him, "No; other people will eventually do that as consensus is established. I don't engage in edit wars, and had I noticed that others had previously edit warred on the page, I wouldn't have even gotten involved." (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Slakr)

NOW THE FACTS. I did not "beg" nor even ask admin Slakr to delete that sentence. What I asked him was, "Are you going to revert his (TennisAnalyst's) revert?" NOT if he would delete a sentence. Slakr then left this message on Tennis's talk page. Here is the original edit Slakr did on the Federer article, pending consenus. Six minutes later, TennisAnalyst defies Slakr by reverting his edit here and putting back the MOST contentious version. Just one minute after that, TennisAnalyst makes this hostile revert by removing the tags an admin had previously advised be added to the weasly words. Those are the facts. As he was told, he has has a long-term history of edit-warring in this article, even with very experienced editors and administrators. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 20:50, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

AND NOW ONTO HIS SECOND LIE. He said, "User 76 was dead wrong to say that "multiple admins replaced it with a temporary/non-weasel version." In fact, only one did, an admin named Slakr." Really? Well take a look at this edit. Well, look at that... yet another administrator who replaced it with a non-weasel version. And look who it is.... BUSHRANGER. Like I said, Tennis wouldn't know the truth if it landed on his head. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 20:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Bushranger, just this morning a contributor named TheLou75 [15] wrote the following to User 76: "As a side note to 76.189.114.243, please refrain from personal attacks as I see that this discussion has been littered with them." (see talk page)

Please note that before Schpinbo/User 76 appeared on the Federer talk page I had gotten along quite well with previous contributors and admins. Nobody else but this guy -- these two? -- have sought to complain about me. I've been on the Fed talk page for over a year now. User 76 has barely been on the page for a week, and he's shown up for the sole purpose of deleting/altering the second sentence of this article. (Why hasn't he applied the standard of POV/weasel words to the Nadal article, for instance? He's nowhere to be found on the Nadal talk page.)

Lastly, if you observe User 76's behavior in recent days, you will see that he's spent a great deal of time trying to get the last word with others, overreacting to others' comments (you yourself had to tell him to take a deep breath), following me everywhere I go in order to post (often superfluous) rejoinders, and hurling insults at me. His behavior is way out of line, and somebody needs to call him out for it. Thanks again, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 16:51, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Here's what User 76 posted today on the talk page. Notice at the end of the post he tells me he and his "wife" are "amused" by the back-and-forthing. He's basically admitting it's all a joke to him. Notice the personal attacks, too:

TennisAnalyst, unlike your continued whiny, unsubstantiated claims, I provide proof with what I say. You never do. Haha. Everyone knows exactly what you've done, so repeating your lies endlessly will not help your cause. You may have mentioned protecting to someone in this discussion, but I took it to someone who could actually get it done. And he did...You continue to amuse my wife and I greatly. Keep it going if you want to continue embarrassing yourself. You're keeping us entertained. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 11:05, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 17:37, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Of course we're amused. But not by the "back-and-forth" as you describe it, but by YOU. We've never experienced such unbelievably outrageous and paranoid behavior. We teach our children to deal with bullies, just as we're dealing with you. You may have gotten away with bullying as a kid, but not here. When Bushranger shows that I am not Schpinbo you will look even more foolish than you already do. Funny, if I was that guy, you'd think I would've cast a vote on the Federer talk page? Haha. Didn't think of that, did you? You need to think before you speak and go around making these wacky, paranoid accusations. It's also interesting Tennis that you still have yet to provide any of the diffs or other proof requested several times. What a surprise. And you say admin Slakr begged me? Interesting, no diff again. So I'LL provide the diff here, which shows that Slakr explaining (for your sake) that he was reverting to the NON-contentious version of the sentence until consensus was reached, NOT the "widely considered" version that reverted back to. Caught yet again in one of your many lies, Tennis. And of course your edit history shows your three reverts in 24 hours on July 14-15, as well as your talk page showing you being admonished by admin Slakr for long-term edit-warring. And your very rude reply to him, which got him so upset he refused to deal with you any more. You try to convince people that you get along so wonderfully with everyone, yet the documented records show a list of people you have pissed off. Your behavior pattern is very clear and consistent. As I recollect from your history, you have accused at least one other user, perhaps two, of also having multiple accounts. Finally, regarding my pal Lou75, it's interesting you chose to hide from Bushranger what Lou's corrected, follow-up comment said. Once he read more and discovered your hostile behavior, it was YOU that he admonished before he and I were finally able to move on and work together to try and improve the article. He understands that bullies need to be dealt with. You need to learn that honesty will get you everywhere. Dishonesty, as you've shown in almost every word you've written, will get you nowhere. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 17:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

A few of us here find you amusing, too. The line about being a Federer fan earlier is priceless. See, we were on to you from the beginning. We know why you came to the Federer talk page and why you follow me everywhere I go to leave comments. Alas, we know that you are a troll and should not be taken seriously. Good day, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 19:03, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

"A few of us"... lmao. No one even talks to you any more because of your outrageous behavior. And how interesting you didn't name these "few" people. If it was true, you'd be rushing on here to put their names. Again, zero proof to back up your endless bs. Got a diff? Didn't think so. You're pathetic. By the way, you seem to forget that NeilN said YOU were the one trolling. Oops, you forgot about that one, didn't you. Haha. "Good day"?... passive-aggressive, too. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 21:30, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

By "few of us here" I meant "on my end, watching what's taking place on the Federer article, and observing your behavior specifically." For somebody who's supposedly amused by these exchanges of ours, you certainly do sound agitated and cranky. And last I checked, the only time somebody has spoken to you was to express disagreement with one or more of your positions (e.g., Dr. Blofeld, Lou, GreenTree, and even Slakr, who later confessed that had he known better, he wouldn't have gotten involved with you). Ta, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 01:01, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Please just reveal to us that your are like 12 years old and then we'll forgive you and let it go. Haha. Or you can keep typing these erratic comments so we can add them to the record. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 01:58, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I know nothing of this dispute's content, but that comment is a borderline personal attack and probably should be avoided in the future.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:02, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, Jasper. If I encounter personal attacks in the future, would it be all right to notify you? My only concern is to contribute to the Federer talk page occasionally, not to become embroiled in spats. Regards, TennisAnalyst004 (talk) 02:26, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Jasper, as you can see, this talk page as well as Schpinbo's talk page speaks for itself. ;) And did you notice how he followed me to Dennis Brown's talk page, showing up minutes after I got there? Not to mention crashing THIS thread I was having with B-ranger. Tennis, you do understand Jasper can read this entire thread and see all the diffs and other proof I provided, right? And he can also see the comment I posted just below inviting you to participate with us on the Federer talk page. But for some reason, that's the only comment you didn't respond to. ;) --76.189.114.243 (talk) 02:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't try to use me - I'm don't have and will not take a side on this dispute.--Jasper Deng (talk) 04:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

TennisAnalyst, do not ever edit my (or anyone else's) comments in a talk page as you did here!

Actually, that may be the problem. The Roger Federer page is the ONLY one you have ever edited. It has repeatedly been explained to you that while it's fine to be a huge Federer fan, like me, you must remain completely unbiased when you're editing so that the integrity of the article and this project will be adhered to. Insisting on saying he's the greatest player of all time is contrary to the mission. And of course attacking me, and others, with a multitude of insults makes it very difficult to have productive discussions and achieve our goals. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 03:20, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Btw Tennis, we've been having a very nice and productive discussion on the Federer talk page in the past several hours. Some great new ideas have been presented. When I started the thread there, that was the intention. If you are ever ready to contribute productively and with an open mind to making the article the best it can be, you are more than welcome to join us. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

When renaming a category following CFD

Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 July 15#Category:Heathen organisations was closed by you with the nominated category being renamed to Category:Germanic neopagan organisations. Shouldn't watchlist preferences be transferred between the source and target categories? The move was done by Cydebot. __meco (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Er...I'm not quite sure what you mean by watchlist preferences? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:48, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh.. sorry! I thought I maybe wasn't making myself sufficiently clear. Anyway, I mean that I had the old category on my watchlist. The new one isn't. __meco (talk) 12:15, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Ahhh. Well, sometimes the new category will be watched 'automatically', sometimes it won't - I've never been able to figure out a rhyme or reason to it. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:01, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

OK, we'll have to look into that then, at some time. __meco (talk) 06:41, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

TennisAnalyst004's accuation of 76.189.114.243 and Schpinbo being the same user

Bushranger, here you go... Read Schpinbo's comments on his talk page. Can you have some sort of check run to show we're not the same person. And then when it's confirmed we're not the same person, can you ban or suspend TennisAnalyst for defaming us by falsely reporting it here and on other pages? And this proves his behavior is a pattern. 76.189.114.243 (talk) 20:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not a checkuser; you want to file at WP:SPI for that. Also, careful with using words like defame. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:58, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Haha, that only applies to threats or implied threats of legal action. I asked for him to be banned or suspended, not taken to court. ;) Can you please get someone to do the checkuser process? Please settle this particular issue. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 21:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

True, just letting ou know "defaming" is a loaded phrase around here. For a CU check, you should ask User:Dennis Brown - I believe he's a CU clerk. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 23:37, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good, thanks. --76.189.114.243 (talk) 23:52, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

• I think I just saw a boomerang being launch~! --Dave ^{♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫®} 13:02, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Sparlock

Thanks for completing the AfD and redirect for Sparlock. Related cleanup is also required at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Sparlock The Warrior Wizard. Based on this, it might also be worth creating a redirect for Sparlock the Warrior Wizard to the redirect target. Thanks.--Jeffro77 (talk) 05:09, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Consider it done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 16:40, 28 July 2012 (UTC)