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Hey, thanks, *Treker!!! Appreciate it. Happy New Year!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:34, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Private social services moved to draftspaceEdit

An article you recently created, Private social services, is a nonsubstantial essy, sourced only by articles talking about a small range of examples. We need references providing substantial coverage from third-party independent reliable sources, not press releases or mere announcements . I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. DGG ( talk ) 23:12, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Re:ItemEdit

No problem...and thanks!!! :) Jhenderson 777 14:51, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

history projectEdit

In response to your petition, I'd be glad to help out on the contemporary history project. I'll also take a look at the other page you asked about.Michael E Nolan (talk) 19:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

@Michael E Nolan:, hi. that's really terrific. I see some good things ahead that we can get done here. looking forward to further efforts. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 19:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Help me!Edit

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Hi. I'm just curious, why is the category Category:Top-importance Batman articles shown as empty? Does anyone know why? the article Batman at least should clearly be showing up there. right?

and actually, it looks like all of the sub-categories of Category:Batman articles by importance are empty! any ideas on this? thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 23:39, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Please don't use the {{help me}} template in two places to ask the same question. You've identified the correct template to investigate at Talk:Batman#question re Category:Top-importance Batman articles. I'll look into it later if nobody else has gotten to it before then. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 00:59, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

So sorryEdit

I have restored the council page back to an authoritative page rather than a recruitment page listing non council members. So sorry but it's a big change in the nature of the page.--Moxy 🍁 03:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

hi Moxy. I do appreciate your helpful note above. sorry, but as far as I know no users are defined as members or non-members of the council, such as it is. in other words, it has never been given any formal set of members. --Sm8900 (talk) 03:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Come to the talk page pls.....don't want to edit war. ..but it's all fucked.--Moxy 🍁 03:53, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
Moxy, I appreciate your thoughtful notes above, and also your genuine and sincere desire to improve the encyclopedia. however, as you know other editors there have commented on these changes as well. they expressed their own thoughts on these revision, but they did not advocate that all such edits be reversed, undone, or erased in any way. I do appreciate your thoughtful input on this. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
I am not seeing much support at all for the change in nature of the page. Best restore stable version till all is worked out.--Moxy 🍁 04:08, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
sorry, but I don't agree. and the stable version was after no one had edited it. my version was stable in that the edits stood after being made, and after multiple editors had viewed them. I appreciate your input. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 04:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Moxy: I fully appreciate your desire to keep things in check but I for one think it would be useful to review priorities on WP Council. Given the number of page views on its main page, it looks as if many consider it an important project. At the very least, attention should be given to looking into why it is listed as semi-active, perhaps reviewing methods of wikiproject assessment. But as you suggest, it may be better to discuss all this on the project's talk page. I just thought it might be useful to post a few lines here as I think some encouragement should be given to SM's enthusiasm.--Ipigott (talk) 08:30, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

Comics articles importance ratingsEdit

Hi, I reverted your changes to some Batman-related articles. You placed them all in "Top" importance, which may be their importance within the Batman universe (though even their some are debatable), but which is not their actual importance for the Comics project in general (which is what your edits actually achieved). Articles like Alfred Pennyworth or Batman's utility belt are very far removed from being Top importance for the Comics project. The intention is to keep "Top" for about 50 articles only: at the moment, there are 56 ones listed at Category:Top-importance Comics articles, of which only a handful can really be debated (I'll reassess Hobbes (Calvin and Hobbes) and take a look at some others). Batman is correctly one of them, but subtopics of the Batman universe should not be in this category. Fram (talk) 15:29, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Fram:. thanks so much for your courteous and helpful note here. no problem at all. i'll take a look at that, and think about if there are any other options. meanwhile, I also wrote to you on your talk page. nice to be in touch. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 15:31, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

My user pageEdit

I've never paid any attention to user pages; I suppose it is useful not only for learning more about a particular editor but also in judging their competence and credibility. I honestly don't remember when I started editing Wikipedia, although a year ago sounds right. As for my date of birth, it is October 26, 1952, and I live in Mexico (although I'm a U.S. citizen, which largely explains my interest in U.S. history and politics). I guess you can see from this that I am giving you permission to set up my user page. Michael E Nolan (talk) 17:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Michael E Nolan:, okay, that's terrific. consider it done. I am really enjoying our mutual efforts, and look forward to many more items and projects in the weeks and months ahead. I'll be glad to get started on this.
feel free to let me know any time, of course, if there's anything I've done that you want changed, corrected, revised, removed, or improved-upon, etc etc etc. it is your user page, so naturally you are in full control of course. I'll enjoy working on it though. always nice to try my hand at a new item. or to dabble in a new area. I appreciate your note, and all your help. feel free to be in touch any time, as always. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:57, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

RE question re your ideas on editors and various itemsEdit

Hello. I don't work much on userboxes lately. Here is what I have done so far:

Feel free to use them, or to copy them to your own pages for further editing. I don't claim ownership, and I don't need any credit. People can use the userboxes from your own pages and subpages after you edit and adapt them to your own needs. -- Timeshifter (talk) 19:56, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedia help overviews has been nominated for discussionEdit

Category:Wikipedia help overviews, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. —⁠andrybak (talk) 21:49, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Some advice for WikiProject HistoryEdit

Hi Sm8900, great to see your interest in WP History. I have been involved in a small revival for something similar for WP:ANAT and want to leave some short advice for you:

ideas re WikiProject
  1. Honestly, a dormant project doesn't have many active editors. So I wouldn't waste time creating infrastructure (eg. for A class reviews, task forces, role designations, statements of behaviour etc.) because there will only be a couple of active editors and that kind of stuff wastes a lot of time and in my experience drains energy and certainly doesn't result in any new editors.
  2. If you're active, do whatever makes you passionate about that area - wikignoming, organisation, or article editing. Editors (myself included) are drawn to activity and it will usually generate more active editing
  3. For automated tasks, use a bot, eg. if you plan to go through your volunteer list (or article list, or whatever), think clearly about what you want to do, and see if a bot owner can do it. Saves a lot of time. I'll give an example:
    • Go through all editors on your volunteers list
    • Separate our all editors without activity in the last year, move these to an 'old volunteers list'
    • To old volunteers, deliver a message notifying that you've like to get the project active but moved them to an old list because they're not
    • To active volunteers, deliver a message notifying that you'd like to get the project active again and welcome collaboration
  4. Consider using a mass message to notify editors of important project events or when disseminating a newsletter
  5. Wikiprojects are great places to discuss things that affect your sets of articles - such as groups of images, navboxes, templates, layout, sources etc. Keep in mind to expect strong and contradictory opinions.

I hope that helps. So to summarise

  1. A WP consists of active members who want to contribute to that area
  2. Editors want to contribute to the area, so administrative stuff (1) wastes your time and (2) doesn't get active editors and (3) won't achieve your end goal of improving articles
  3. The point of the activity is to improve articles, so make sure you keep that as your focus
  4. Rome wasn't build in a day, and the most important element is consistent involvement over time or a small amount of activity over time in the area, rather than single momentous decisions

Hope that helps. That is just my two cents from being involved in a similar process over at WikiProject Anatomy and our process of trial and error --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:14, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi. I didn’t delete it. Sorry, I simply moved it to the correct section. It is still there . Sorry for being less than clear about this. Thanks.Sm8900 (talk) 14:52, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I think your suggestion above is pretty good. I will try to do that. Thanks. Sm8900 (talk) 14:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020Edit

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Re WP CouncilEdit

You posted, then deleted, the following on my talk page:

hi., thanks for clicking “thanks “! However, if you have a chance, I could also use some written support. If you get a chance, could you please write a reply there. It can be short; just one or two sentences would be totally great if you want. I appreciate it. Thanks!! Sm8900 (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Over the past few days, I have made several suggestions on how you could proceed. Once again, I think it would be useful if you created a new talk page (possibly in your own user space) where you could list what you think are the project's current shortcomings and how you think these could be overcome. When it is ready, you could then invite comment. Further discussion on the project's current talk page does not seem to be productive.--Ipigott (talk) 14:48, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

hi ipigott. I didn’t delete that comment; I simply moved it to the correct section. It is still there . Sorry for being less than clear about this. Thanks.
I think your suggestion above is pretty good. I will try to do that. Thanks. Sm8900 (talk) 14:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
OK. Thanks for the explanation. I started to reply to it but then found it was no longer there and went back to history to find it again. Anyway, I'm glad to see you are going to follow up on my suggestion. I still think one of the important areas to work on is assessment. As you have probably noticed, there are already several types of assessment report including by changes (recently updated here but not yet incorporated), by page watchers, by Category:Defunct WikiProjects, Inactive WikiProjects and Semi-active WikiProjects and, interestingly, those featured on Signpost. What is not measured is the number of article talk pages tagged by WikiProject over time (e.g. over the past month or by year). This could be a useful way of finding out which WikiProjects are considered interesting by those creating new articles but I don't know if it would be easy to implement. Once you have developed your new talk page, I would be happy to contribute.--Ipigott (talk) 08:11, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

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how do I add a button to provide the option to hide or collapse a section of an article? thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

I think that would be contrary to the manual of style. On mobile view, the sections are automatically collapsed. What's your broader objective? — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:00, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jmcgnh: well, I meant, to provide a way to collapse a section on a page, i.e. on WikiProject, or a talk page, or a maintenance page. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 18:05, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
Oh, for something like that, you'd probably use {{collapse}}. {{collapse top}} or, where you want to indicate that a discussion is over and done with, {{Hidden archive top}}. Just avoid doing that in article space.
There are plenty of options for including the section header text, having it expanded by default, etc. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

StrategyEdit

Hi! Today, I was about to let you know that the discussions have been launched. I'm glad to find out that you needed no pings. :) SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

lol! thanks, SGrabarczuk (WMF)! I appreciate the thought. as you see, yup, I'm already there. I appreciate your note. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:51, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

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Dear Sm8900, thank you for volunteering as a host at the Teahouse. Wikipedia is a community of people working together to make knowledge free. You are an important part of that effort! By joining as a Host, and by following our expectations, you are helping new users get a hold of the ropes here at Wikipedia, and helping experienced users who just have a question about how something works. We appreciate your willingness to help!

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New discussions, copied from Ipigott talk pageEdit

Below is a discussion that was copied and pasted from User talk:Ipigott.

talk page re ideas

ideas page readyEdit

Hi. as you requested, I have set up a draft page in my own user space with some of the ideas that we discussed. Could you please go there, and let me know what you think? Also, in the true spirit of Wikipedia, I invite you to edit it if you wish, or alternately, you can simply indicate any changes or edits that you'd like to see. I think I may have gone a bit over the best length, so I would like to edit it or shorten it if you think that would make ti more ffective. Please feel to let me know. thanks. the draft is at: User:Sm8900/item draft. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 01:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Sm8900: This appears to be a completely new approach rather than a basis for improving or adding more effective subpages to WP Council. I still think it would be useful for you to set out what you think are the shortcomings of the existing situation; that would provide a starting point for defining your goals. I'm not sure what the status of your new group would be. It could possibly be a task force of WP Council, or do you have other ideas? At this stage, although I am happy to help you along, I am not too keen to become involved in a new enterprise. I am far too busy with other priorities.--Ipigott (talk) 07:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Explanation of ideas and structureEdit

Hi Ian. thanks so much for your points above. you make some great points. by the way, my name is Steve. since I have your real name, we might as well do the introductions. nice to meet you!! I will also email you. thanks. anyway, to answer your highly relevant points above, I totally agree with you. yes, this is something totally new, and yes, maybe it's easier to attach this to WikiProject Council, in order to avoid setting up entirely new things, and instead use the existing resources there. I'd be glad to do that; however, to do so, I will definitely need your help. if I set up a whole new resource, that I seek to establish at WikiProject Council, then I will need a clear reason and a clear firm foundation for doing so. the only way that I will be able to do is if I have a clear core group of existing, highly-active WikiProject coordinators who are already on board with this, already see it as helpful and necessary,. and who are willing to help out and to be vocal.
I need those coordinators to actively participate right on day one, just to express their confirmation that they are going to be actively part of this, and they see it as relevant. otherwise the supporters of the status quo at wikiproject council will simply seek to discourage me. even though my goal is to help others and to build new helpful and relevant resources, they will try to depict this as simply an attempt to set up a whole new structure that we don't need. so any help would be appreciated.
further details:
Okay, so here is how we proceed. I plan to set up broad umbrella groups to encompass entire topical areas. so we would have one umbrella group for history, one for politics, one for the arts, one for science, one for pop culture and so on and so on. once we do that, then within those umbrella groups, we could have various working groups, based mainly on function, but also based on topical area. so we could have one working group within history for helping new editors, one for sharing methods for improving articles, one for exchanging info on running a WikiProject. or alternately, we could make it much simpler; we could have one working group for experienced coordinators on active wikiprojects, and then that working group would be to enable them to share ideas and methods on any topics that they see fit to share.
underneath the working groups, we could have task forces. these would be outgrowths of the working groups, based on what active editors wish to set up. if no one has any ideas for task forces, then they would not exist. it would only be based upon real ideas from active editors, who seek to actively work on them and be available to exchange ideas.
okay, so to do all this, i.e. in order to propose all this, and then act upon it, and then set up pages for this, I need the active, vocal support, from a group of experienced, established WikiProject coordinators, right at the outset, and available on a constant basis. If I go to WikiProject Council by myself, and try to propose this on my own, it will not go as well.
okay, so what do you think of this? to start with, if you agree with this effort, and can help out, I'd like you to please approach one, two or three of your fellow coordinators at WP "Women in Red." let them know that although we will not need their constant input on a continual basis, we will definitely need their vocal input and support right at the outset. otherwise this project will never get off the runway for takeoff; as we're rolling to the runway, every AA gun of the WikiProject Council will be aimed at us, to make sure this never gets off the ground. so if I do know that I have a core group ready, and prepared to support some of these initial ideas, then I'm ready to get started right away, to move ahead now, and to start setting up pages, and initial expressions of these ideas, in order to present to others.
okay, so what do you think of all this? I am totally open to every single comment, input or feedback that you may have. I would really welcome your input and insight. Please feel free to let me know. by the way, Bluerasberry has already been of great help in expressing ideas and comments, so I am tagging him for comment as well. Please feel free to write back. I appreciate your help. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 15:15, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Sm8900: As I said before, I am too busy with other things to be able to devote much time to all this. Once you have put together a fairly solid plan, let me know and I'll take a look. Good luck!--Ipigott (talk) 15:29, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
ok, no problem. I will get started on drawing up a detailed plan within the very near future, and will send to you just to keep you up to date. I really appreciate your help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 15:31, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Category:History of computing topical overviews has been nominated for discussionEdit

Category:History of computing topical overviews, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DexDor (talk) 19:49, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
thanks ,DexDor!! I appreciate your note. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

New Council for WikiProjectsEdit

Thank you for the invitation to participate in this group. I'm fairly busy now, so I'm going to decline. Best of luck. Michael E Nolan (talk) 16:49, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 January 2020Edit

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What are the standards for inclusion in year links?Edit

Eg 1961 in poetry which has some people's names with red links. Thanks. A ping would be appreciated if you reply. Doug Weller talk 13:16, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: thanks for your note. well, as far as notability in year articles, I think, the standards for that are no different than the standards for WP:Notability in general. If you want my own feelings on that, the simplest answer is that I am absolutely an inclusionist. absolutely. that is why I like working on current year articles. if a fact is out there, let's grab it!!! snag that puppy before it goes by!!! put it in a timeline article, where the fact collerctors at Wikipedia can add it to their collection, put it under glass, and enjoy it for years to come!! <ahem> lol!! Face-smile.svg. well, that's my own personal outlook on this. so who are some of these poets who have red links? were they published? were they notable? was their work published, either in books, or else perhaps in major publications? Please feel free to let me know. if so, let's get them in!! I'd be happy to work with you on this. let me know.
by the way, it is a pleasure to hear from you on this. I am currently in the midst of a major reworking and revamping of Wikipedia:WikiProject History. but after that, I hope to move on slowly to revamping other WikiProjects over the course of time. I am mainly thinking about history-related WikiProjects, since I am the lead coordinator at WikiProject history, which i consider the umbrella group for other history-related projects. but I am willing to look at entirely different subject areas, for other WikiProjects. so we can see how that goes, over time.
actually, you came along just at the right time. would you like to help me at WikiProject History? I could really use your input. Actually, you can be my co-pilot there if you want. the position for that is wide open!! would you like to come over there? please feel free to let me know. I would welcome your input. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:08, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I must have been thinking of something else, perhaps deaths, where the criteria is inclusion in other projects. Although I'm interested in history (and definitely archaeology), I have a watchlist of almost 20,000 and am a Checkuser and Oversighter, and of course an Admin, and really don't have time to do anything else. I'm days behind in filing an SPI! Doug Weller talk 14:28, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
okay no problem, Doug Weller!! but if that's the case, feel free to stop by Wikipedia:WikiProject History if you get a chance, and to give the place a three-minute once-over, and then let me know anything that I'm doing right, wrong, or should do differently. and then after that, you can vanish like the wind!! if you want. Face-smile.svg anyway, your input is always welcome, and appreciated. Please feel free to write any time. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:32, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
I agree with the concept of inclusion, particularly in years projects. I would even go a step further, and I would like to see a revision of the policy regarding "notable deaths" because it tends to exclude non-Anglos and runs contrary to the priority of "diversity." Most contributors to English-Wikipedia are either North Americans or British, so articles about events or people tend to come from these areas. When writing about people or things that happened twenty or more years ago, it is probably best to simply add the information without creating red links. Unless you intend to write the articles yourself, they probably won't get written. Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:54, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
On another but related subject, I have also questioned the standards on inclusion or exclusion of events. Yesterday I posted on 2020 about a strong earthquake on (7.1Mw ) in the Caribbean that was felt in six countries but fortunately caused no significant damage. Someone suggested that such events should not be reported if there are not at least 1,000 deaths. I'm open to adhering to standards, but where are they published? Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:54, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
thanks for your reply @Michael E Nolan:! I appreciate your great points above. as far as notability for earthquakes, they fall in the category of natural events, not manamde disasters. therefore, as such the standard of notability depends on the intensity or magnitude of such an event, not any measure of the impact of humans or society. on that basis, that earthquake is definitely notable, and is definitely suitable for inclusion. I am glad you wrote to add your comments here. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:09, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


WikiProject HistoryEdit

Hi Sm8900! I just wanted to thank you for personally reaching out to me about WikiProject history. I will be more than happy to help get the project active again. I am currently in a class at Rice University that requires us to work on a Wikipedia article and I will be expanding on my first work - History of Democracy in Mexico. I will also post on the talk page for the project soon. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do as I would very much like to help. Best, Claudia Paine22 (talk) 17:55, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Claudia Paine22. thanks so much for your reply. okay, yes, let's absolutely get started. to begin with, what are some of your areas of interest? any answer at all is totally fine. and yes, please do comment on the project talk page, whenever you wish. the sooner that we can get you over there, the sooner we can get things moving. you may be able to have more of an impact on the overall direction of Wikipedia than you might have initially thought! Face-smile.svg I bet you're glad that you happened onto this! anyway, we are very glad that we have you here. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 18:38, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
actually, based upon your answer above, I would already like to start a task force for History of Mexico, or History of Central America , and place you on it. Also, I would like to place you on the task force for Political History, which already exists. would that be okay? thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

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Hi. as you can see below, I have several templates in this section. Below are the template names for each of these. I would like the first group of two templates to be shown side by side, and the second group, ie bugle, signpost and admin newsletter to be shown on the next row, side by side. is there any way to do so? I appreciate it. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 20:55, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

See Help:Table. I would suggest to put them in one table row. Gryllida (talk) 01:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Gryllida, thanks for your reply, but I tried that. actually, that worked! thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 05:12, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Excellent. I'm glad to help.
May I ask you if you are interested in current news? If so, what topics? Gryllida (talk) 05:56, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi Gryllida. well, do you mean Wikipedia news, or world and national news? either way , the answer yes. my main focus for world news is politics and history. I have initiated a few timeline articles and other articles to keep track of current events in those areas. is that what you were asking about? please feel free to let me know. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:21, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
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There are a couple of different approaches you might take. For someone who is not familiar with coding, using the ordinary columnization templates might be better for a DIY solution. The more technical approach would involve setting up <div> directives with something like width=33% parameters (this is how userboxes and Wikipedia Adventure badges work). I'm not prepared to do this for you, so I'm going to leave the request open in case someone else happens along who is willing. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 23:51, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

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Draft: UK in political historyEdit

Wow! I really like it, especially the idea of division by PMs. The external links section also looks good. One suggested change: Instead of "Brexit" include a section on "Trade." Brexit is a thing of the past, and it deserves mention, but there are bound to be many other important trade issues in the coming decade. There's probably little to add to "Brexit" at this point. Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

@Michael E Nolan: thanks!!! glad you like it. well, now it brings up a little problem that we now have to iron out, i.e. namely and especially since you and I are the cutting-edge task force that came up with these in the first place!! Face-smile.svg basically, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have these for the UK, and nothing similar for the US; since the articles of this type have now become a success with the UK editor crew. we should try the same thing for the colonies over here on our side of the pond!! Face-smile.svg
ok, so dividing things by premiership worked great for the UK articles. everyone seems to have taken to that pretty well. the problem here is, our Chief Executive change over here much less frequently. so dividing up by Presidential Administration wouldn't really work. but I don't want to divide it up by year either; then we are simply another ordinary timeline article. so therefore, I would like to divide these articles approximately by Congressional session ; in other words, 2008 to 2010, 2010 to 2012, 2012 to 2014, etc etc. doing so will capture the real political cycle for American politics, just as premiership capture the real political cycle of the UK. by the way, yes I know the new Congress takes office in January of the new year following the election, so yes, we may reflect that in our time-based sections as well.
so anyway, how does that all sound? the drafts are getting set up now. i am still adding the section breaks for the basic structure. you can feel free to let me know any comments. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
I agree with all of this. I don't see any problem with the fact that the election is in November but Congress begins its sessions in January. I do hope you and I aren't the only editors who contribute to these pages. Michael E Nolan (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
Michael E Nolan okay, glad to hear that. that's good to know.
re your other point, that's a good point and a good question; however, no, you and I are certainly not the only editors who edit these articles. the two decade overviews that are currently in article main space, namely 2010s in political history, 2010s in United Kingdom political history, are very much active, energized, and embraced by the Wikipedia community.
My point is that we in our task force for contemporary history have basically invented and pioneered all of these. it's highly gratifying that you are adding content at the article for Draft:2020s in UK political history. I'm planning to move that to main space within the next few weeks. i am sure it will be readily accepted as well, based on the current positive response to the other decade overviews.
my point is that the decade overviews for the USA will need a little prior attention before we move them out of drafts. they certainly do not need to be fully or even largely complete before doing so. I simply meant as long as we have the basic structure set out, with a few basic content details included, we can move this out to the larger community. so that's why I wanted to check with you, on what you think of the basic article structure by section and by era. I'm glad you like it. All of your input is very helpful. i appreciate it. feel free to send any other comments, ideas, etc., if you wish. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:30, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

2021 in the United States moved to draftspaceEdit

An article you recently created, 2021 in the United States, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk) 05:29, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

Town HallEdit

I'm sure you're right that most editors have no idea about options for community communication. I imagine your interest in involving as many people as possible is most likely with if you:

  • Create a new page/talk page at the existing WikiProject Council, where members of various WikiProject can gather to offer updates, information and ideas on the latest efforts at each of their own WikiProject, such as Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Town Hall. Michael E Nolan (talk) 05:28, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
thanks Michael E Nolan. appreciate your reply. ok, if I get some support for that from others, then I may go that route. however please note that adding pages to an existing active project like WikiProject Council requires a tangible community consensus; so if I do try to make this happen, can I count you to come there, to indicate your explicit support for making this happen? Please let me know. I really appreciate it. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 05:32, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
Count me in. Michael E Nolan (talk) 05:47, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
terrific. thanks!! I'm planning to let some time go by, just to collect some input, ideas and feedback, i.e. to see what others think of this, and what their preferences may be. I will keep you posted. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 05:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
@Michael E Nolan: your feedback is extremely helpful. I will put you down as favoring a sub-page at WP:Council. that sounds fine. I am going to tabulate the answers received on a page in my own userspace. I will also copy and paste people's replies including yours. I hope that's okay; if it isn't let me know. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 12:22, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Update on new drafts for current eventsEdit

Your assumptions about my general interests are on target: decades in political history, U.S. politics, but not much interest in U.K. politics. I find myself quite busy--I recently made a page for 2020 in Nigeria. I decided it would be impossible to make a 2020 page for every country that is missing, so I made 2020 in West Africa. With every new entry, it seems there's almost always another page or two to update. I've also written several things for 2020s. Michael E Nolan (talk) 05:46, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

@Michael E Nolan:okay, that sounds terrific. that's actually a very good thing. the US decade articles may be where I may really need your help. you can feel free to take a look at them any time, or to edit them any time.
the 2010s article for UK seems to be doing fine, so I anticipate that our British colleagues will be happy to get started and to help out on the article for 2020s as well. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 05:51, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Goings-onEdit

We do have this...♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:39, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-07Edit

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note to matt 82, village pumpEdit

note to matt 82, village pump
ping|Mattg82}}, thanks so much!! I appreciate your positive words and encouraging insights.
Based on some comments above, I have decided to simplify the name for this new page somewhat. the name "Town Hall" was overly broad, and does not give a real idea of what we are trying to do. so here is the new name, below:
  • DRAFT NAME: User:Sm8900/Community forum and bulletin board for WikiProjects
    • in order to build this, I will be approaching various individual editor who are working on specific group projects, to ask them what items they might like to post.
  • One editor asked an excellent question; how is this different than Wikipedia:Community bulletin board?
    • this idea is different from the Community bulletin board because this would be an active forum, where editors from different wikiprojects exchange ideas and data; the Wikipedia:community bulletin board is mainly for concise announcements.
    • however, until we get actual activity there, any such features might remain hypothetical. so I will approach some individual editors, and see what they might like to post there.
    • even for simple updates, this page would be much more expansive; in other words, it would not just be for terse announcements, but rather a collaborative bulletin board and forum, so even simple updates would be more detailed, and more engaging
  • the reason I entitled this "Community forum and bulletin board for WikiProjects," is to make it clear that this is not just one more new WikiProject which might eventually fizzle out; so that's why I did not name this "WikiProject bulletin board," as that would be a bit misleading.
this is still just a page in my own user space. it will remain there, as a draft, until I get some more editors directly involved in this. I hope to approach a few editors who are leading current group efforts, whether at WikiProjects or elsewhere, and see what they might like to post, and hoe to make this a real resource for them.
however, if anyone here has any content or topics that they'd like to post, please feel free to come by any time. right now, we are seeking any material for inclusion that others might find helpful. so any ideas or items are welcome. feel free to visit the page any time, to provide ideas for topics or material, or any comments. thanks!!!

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hi. I need your help. could you please dratft a notice for WP:The great UK Destubathon that you are leading? I am looking for editor events and group projects that I could post to post at my new community forum, if that's okay. could you please let me know if that sounds okay to you? I really appreciate it. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) testing welcome messages


okay, but may I also point out, our category systems happens to include these categories, as well: .

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Also, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name using four tildes (~~~~); that will automatically produce your username and the date. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Sm8900 (talk) 16:56, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Sm8900, good luck, and have fun. Sm8900 (talk) 16:57, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

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Welcome aboard matey!Edit

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Ahoy! Welcome aboard the SS Wikipedia, it do be yer captain speaking! You are hereby commissioned into CaptainEek's crew as a deckhand. If ye be crafty and good at catching sources, it won't be long before you graduate with a captainship of yer own.

But in all seriousness, you asked for adoption, and I can provide. This will be a bit unusual, as you have around longer than I, and made more edits, but I will help in any way I can. My adoptions are generally free form, and serve as me providing advice and watching over my adoptees. You are always welcome at my talk page, and I will endeavor to reply as quick as possible. If you have a certain project, area, or problem you'd like help with, I can tailor a course of training for you. Smooth sailing, CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 02:00, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

that's terrific. that sounds great!! aye aye, Cap'n!!! all hands will muster to the foredeck at eight bells, to make a clean sweep fore and aft, set the maindeck to rights, the hoist sail and aweigh anchor, as it's off to the bounding main!!! avast me hearties!!!! 'tis to glory we steer!!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 03:05, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

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ThanksEdit

Just a quick note to say 'thank you' for taking on board the suggestion to pare down all your user sub-pages. It's really appreciated - and you went a lot further than I expected. Remember, if you ever feel you've made a mistake in deleting something, an administrator will be able to restore most types of content for you on request. (I actually think I ought to do the same with all my own subpages, now!) No need to reply back, especially as a quick 'thank' against an editor's contribution can often be a quick way to acknowledge something without creating more back and forth messaging. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 18:05, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

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phew!! thank you, Andrybak. it is nice to hear an actual invitation to participate around here. you have no idea how much I needed that. your timing is impeccable!! I appreciate your message, and all that you do here for the encyclopedia. thanks so much. see you!! Face-smile.svg --Sm8900 (talk) 21:39, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Because you tryEdit

Double Rainbow in Susice.jpg Keep up the enthusiasm!
Thanks for caring about making Wikipedia better. Schazjmd (talk) 01:53, 20 February 2020 (UTC)


well, I'll be. it's a miracle!! thanks, Schazjmd!!! it sure is nice to be appreciated. you made me smile, for once.I sure needed that, right now!!! thanks!!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:18, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
+1, your efforts are appreciated (and not just recently but also for the last 14 years). I think the problem boiled down to trying to do too many things at once (multiple new initiatives instead of just focusing on one), but it seems like you have that all sorted now and I hope this experience doesn’t discourage you from continuing to volunteer here. Levivich (lulz) 02:23, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
wow, thanks Levivich. that is very nice of you to say. I really appreciate it. it is nice to see someone give me some positive vibes here. I really needed that. I really appreciate your note. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Sm8900, I second Levivich and Schazjmd's comments. I thought the WikiProject town hall was an interesting idea, but perhaps should've been incubated in your userspace at first. I'm stopping by for the same reason as Levivich and after noticing that you requested deletion of User:Sm8900/Wikipedia service award thumbnails/Master Editor Level Four after the recent MfD I closed closed as userfy to your userspace. I guess it didn't need walking anymore? ;-) Doug Mehus T·C 22:41, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
Dmehus thanks so much! that means a lot to me. thanks. believe me, I appreciate the positive sentiment and the encouragement of messages like yours. that sounds fine. I will keep that in mind. re the Master Editor Level Four, I guess it was better off in the wild!! lol!!! Face-smile.svg --Sm8900 (talk) 00:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020Edit

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Proposal at the Village Pump to streamline the welcome templateEdit

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Proposal to streamline the welcome template. This may be of interest to you as a member of the Wikipedia Help Project. Sdkb (talk) 04:57, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

March Madness 2020Edit

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The Signpost: 1 March 2020Edit

Draft:2020s in United States in political historyEdit

I believe I have added some things to this article, but I'll take a look and see what else can be added. I'm rather busy right now, so I don't have a lot of time, but I will take a look. By the way, I think you cite the same article twice. And yes, probably in a week or so the 2020s article could probably be published. Michael E Nolan (talk) 15:55, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

okay, that sounds fine. I appreciate your reply, @Michael E Nolan:. no rush of course, whatever you wish to do is totally fine. I appreciate your help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Michael Hirsh foreign policyEdit

Here´s the citation you requested. [1] I have added it. Michael E Nolan (talk) 00:09, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

thanks! --Sm8900 (talk) 23:04, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Why the Liberal International Order Will Endure Into the Next Decade By Michael Hirsh, Foreign Policy, 27 Dec 2019, retrieved 2 March 2020

Tech News: 2020-10Edit

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TOCEdit

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thanks, Moxy! wow, talk about a wealth of information. this is very helpful. thanks!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 02:38, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

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Thank You :)Edit

Thank you Sm8900 for stopping by, leaving a positive comment, and dropping off that handy welcome box. All the best. History DMZ (talk) 01:26, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

@History DMZ:, no problem!! glad to help and to be in touch. feel free to drop by any time. thanks. see you!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:57, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

2020 in SyriaEdit

Hi. With respect to your creation of 2020 in Syria, could you take a look at Talk:Timeline_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War#Proposed_merge_with_2011_in_Syria,_2012_in_Syria,_2013_in_Syria,_2014_in_Syria,_and_2015_in_Syria?

Would you be willing to:

1-Merge the “Events” section of "2020 in Syria" into Timeline of the Syrian Civil War (January–April 2020) and replace it with the sentence “For events related to the Civil War, see Timeline of the Syrian Civil War (January–April 2020)”?

2-Create 2019 in Syria (which is missing) along the lines of 2018 in Syria? Thanks. Tradediatalk 23:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Tradedia:. the first item #1 sounds fine. re item #2, I don't really have much that I would need to0 add to a timeline for 2019 right now. if anyone wishes to create it, I could visit it to see if i want to add data there. is that okay? I'm glad you came by to comment. please feel free to write back. thanks for your helpful info. cheers! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:59, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
Ok, i did item #2 and will let you do item #1 ;) Tradediatalk 03:48, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-11Edit

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The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020Edit

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"Conceptual species roles"Edit

Hi, I see you're populating this (new) category. Only thing is, what is it? A thing like a Keystone species is clearly a people-centric category, something that we consider important. But Predation/Predator? That's one end of an unquestionably real relationship, predators eat prey, basta. If you're prey, predators are about the realest thing imaginable. So, why "conceptual"? And I see that the category has Keystone species and Umbrella species as twin "main articles" - this isn't right. There should be just one main article embodying the definition of the category, but (having brought Keystone species to Good Article), they plainly don't, either of 'em.

So, what we need is an unambiguous definition of what this category is about, in text on its Commons page; and a single article which is all about the subject. If there isn't one, the suspicion must be that the concept is ill-founded, i.e. that the category covers some ill-assorted bedfellows. Or what? Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

hm, okay, those questions make sense. firstly, I'm very glad to meet you, Chiswick Chap. you raise some very good and valid questions. and it is always good to meet a fellow Wikipedian who is devoted to the project in a meaningful way. so, thanks, welcome, and cheers!!
in regards to your excellent questions, you are correct; "umbrella species," on the one hand is obviously a conceptual role, being defined solely on a relational basis, ie upon the relation and impact of the species upon its environment, habitat, and neighboring species,
while "predator" is not a relational definition at all; it exists based upon the actual behavior of the species itself, on an empirical basis, not based upon some overall impact that that species has on its environment, or any long-term trends, patterns or effects that would become evident only over the long term; rather it is based purely upon the simply empircal behavior of the species itself, in regards to its own biological survival, not to any larger trends or factors.
however, I would submit to you, that "predator" in fact could be encompassed as being under the categorical umbrella of "conceptual species role" as well. my reason for this is simple. the categorization by zoologists of an animal as a "predator" is not based upon any taxonomic or zoological classifications whatsoever; in other words, since the label "predator" clearly includes multiple species and genuses. from cellular organisms, to largfe mamamls, to reptiles, birds, etc etc, it too is a conceptual species role.
  • I agree with you that there are actually two types of "conceptual roles" within the umbrella of "conceptual species roles" overall;
    • one type of conceptual role, eg: "umbrella species" pertains to the animal's overall impact upon its environment, and only animals that actually have a significant impact; the majority of species would not be deemed to have any such overall impact, and only some species would ever be grouped under any such label.
    • while the other type of conceptual role eg: "predator" is based solely on the animal's own behavior, i.e. its own essential characteristics and behavior, and not any such larger impact at all.
  • However, again, i would submit that both types of conceptual roles fall under this category's umbrella; mainly because they are both "conceptual" labels, i.e. arbitrary labels which do not correspond with any actual taxonomic categories.
does that sounds reasonable? sorry if my answer got a bit repetitious or recursive in places. I'm very pleased to be able to have this dialogue with you, and to think this through. my own answer above was partially simply my own discursive way to think through the important points that you have raised above.
please do feel free to write back to let me know your thoughts on the points above. I am totally open to your comments and thoughts on this. I will be glad to propose some refinements, improvements, or elucidations to be made on the page of the category, based on any suggestions, questions, or comments that you may express.
It's great to hear from you. thanks for your note. Cheers!!! --Sm8900 (talk) 16:24, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the considered and detailed reply. However I see we're being overtaken by events, as Fram has brought this to CfD, see the next thread below. We'd better speak over there, but of course you can use any of your own thoughts, as briefly as possible, in that discussion. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:29, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
@Chiswick Chap:, okay, thanks so much for your reply. I'd be very interested to discuss this further with you. by the way, please help me out, was there anything I omitted to do, or that i did improperly, in how I created this category? If so, then I apologize. I have set up categories in the past, and simply populated them to get them off the ground. I was never informed that following this set of initial steps as a process was disruptive. if it was, then I apologize. could you please let me know if there are any steps that i should have done differently, or handled differently? I'd be very glad to hear any feedback or input that you might like to offer. I appreciate your help. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 17:20, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
If you're asking about the minutiae of Wikiprocedure, then I'm probably not the best person as I steer clear of such things as far as possible. On the practical side, the first thing in creating a category is to consider if it will be robust, i.e. will it be easy to use, obvious in meaning, clearly defined, unambiguous, and if need be readily defensible on talk page or (in the last analysis) at CfD. The best categories are those that everyone in a field is familiar with - nobody will dispute "Protein" or "Gene". All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:30, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

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Category:Politics overviews by decade has been nominated for mergingEdit

Category:Politics overviews by decade, which you created, has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 27 March 2020 (UTC)