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Feedback oversight

Hi, Shearonink. It's been a while since you first welcomed me to Wikipedia; I don't think I've had the chance to work with you since then. Anyways, I was just wondering, I've noticed that you've requested oversight on a lot of feedback submissions lately. Clearly it's not an issue if the oversighters aren't complaining, but I'm just curious as to why? I don't know if you've read WP:FRG - do you disagree with the criteria it suggest for requesting oversight? I really don't mean to sound at all condescending or anything here; it's been my experience that a good many veteran users aren't that familiar with the perhaps-overly-complicated ins and outs of AFT5.

This whole post seems a bit... wishy-washy... mostly because I'm just trying to bring up the subject, without caring too much what I say about it off the bat. So please forgive any awkwardness here, but I'd love to chat about it, if you don't mind. — Francophonie&Androphilie^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 09:18, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have read the guidelines. I have never seen personal information revealed in any Feedback that I have on my Watchlist so, in general, I have requested Oversight when the Feedback is a combination of the following:

1)has nothing to do with the subject so contributes nothing useful to the Wikipedia Project and

2)is so foul/disgusting/pejorative that it would almost certainly offend most readers & in my opinion simply hiding it serves no purpose.

In general I hide Feedback when it:

1)has nothing to do with the subject.

And yes, you're right...if the Oversighters have an issue with my Feedback reviews, I am sure they will contact me with their concerns. In my opinion, I think the Feedback has served the unintended consequence of directing vandalism away from the articles and onto a venue most readers never see.

So....how do you know what Article Feedback I have requested Oversight on and what is your definition of 'a lot of'? Shearonink (talk) 16:03, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. Sorry, I wrote this post late at night while getting eaten alive by jungle mosquitos, so I realize now I sort of breezed over the actual Oversight-requesting side of things. Umm, well while I obviously can't see any posts you've had Oversighted, I can see ones that've been declined here, under the "Oversight declined" filter. I check in there about once a week, since Oversighters have a habit of forgetting to hide posts once they've declined Oversight, and lately I've just been noticing that a lot of the ones up there are yours. I mean, it's roughly one or two a week, so it's not like I'm accusing you of abusing the Oversight request system, but ones like this, this, this, and this strike me as run-of-the-mill vandalism; I meant "a lot of" in a relative sens. I suppose my only question for you, though, is why you think hiding them "serves no purpose"? It limits the visibility to roughly 10,000 people in the world, very few of whom will ever see the post in the first place, and all of whom are considered trusted members of the community. — Francophonie&Androphilie^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 22:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

As the Response guidelines page states:

If in doubt it is better to request Oversight and leave the decision up to the Oversighter, rather than not request it and have potentially problematic information stay live.

I will always err on the side of caution and request Oversight if I think that there is a possibility the Feedback should be oversighted, and, even though this aspect is not listed at the AF/Feedback response guidelines page, per Wikipedia:Oversight#Policy, Oversighters can remove vandalism if they think such removal is appropriate. And I'll also continue to Hide, to mark as Useful/Not Useful, to answer Feedback-questions if I can, to take Feedback into account when improving an article, and so on. By the way, thanks for your concern, glad to see your editing is going well. Shearonink (talk) 04:36, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'm notoriously liberal with the "hide" tool myself (insofar as one can be notorious in a part of the wiki only a handful of editors care about): I even led a one-man crusade to get "blatantly unconstructive" included as grounds to hide - a decision it seems you would agree with. So, anyways, I perfectly get your wish to err on the side of caution; I can one-up you in that regard, in fact, seeing as I've even reported a feedback submission to the Foundation on one occasion. The problem with sifting through feedback, IMHO, will always be that it gets so mechanical that one can lose track of why the different options exist. But, I mean, an emoticon drawing of a dick's an emoticon drawing of a dick; it wouldn't even warrant revdel if it were in an article. But it's definitely true that it's better safe than sorry, so I definitely see your point in general, even if I think it's a bit broad to extend it to a few of the submissions in question. All the best, and Merry Christmas. — Francophonie&Androphilie^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 07:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Treaty of Paris hatnotes

Hi, another editor is questioning these hatnotes at Talk:Treaty of Paris (1815)#Dab hatnote. Your input there is welcome. older ≠ wiser 12:40, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

DC happy hour on Thursday, February 28!

Please join Wikimedia DC for Happy Hour at the Capitol City Brewery at Metro Center on Thursday, February 28 at 6 p.m. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 34. Hope to see you there! Harej (talk) 02:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Articles for creation Needs You!

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from March 1st, 2013 – March 31st, 2013.

Awards will be given out for all reviewers participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 2000 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

Delivered by User:EdwardsBot on behalf of Wikiproject Articles for Creation at 14:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to a discussion: Wikipedia and legislative data

Hi Shearonink, since you are interested in meetups in DC, I'd like to invite you to attend the Cato Institute's "Wikipedia and Legislative Data" events on March 14. (There's also an all day workshop on March 15; let me know if you are interested, we may be able to add more people.)

There will be an introduction to Wikipedia and open edit-a-thon in the afternoon, and a Sunshine Week Reception in the evening. I hope you can make it!

• Please sign up here
• Announcement on Cato's blog
• Background from Cato sponsor Jim Harper's perspective
• Background from Wikipedian Pete Forsyth's perspective

Hope to see you there! -Pete (talk) 19:27, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, March 9!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Guapo's at Tenleytown-AU on Saturday, March 9 at 5 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 35. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 14:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

A simple thanks

Thank you for review the changes I made. I believe that the general interpretation, or how it is worded, is what guided me in making the change. It was my understanding that the slaves were give to the Washington family by Maratha's family; thus, being a dowry. I am not 100% on this on this interpretation, and because of this I'll just "take your word" on the matter; however, I do hope that your revision is on par! Thanks again, Oklahoma3477 (talk) 07:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem, glad to find an editor who is keeping an eye on such a high-profile article. It's just that the slaves were not part of any type of a "bride's dowry", they were a legal/dower inheritance from Martha Washington's first husband. The words look quite similar but they have different meanings. Shearonink (talk) 07:37, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment

Hey Shearonink; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. Shearonink (talk) 21:36, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

User:Excirial/AFCBuddy

Just got a Bot notice about the March AFC Backlog Elimination Drive. I was going to sign up for the AFCBuddy, but noticed something weird about the linkage... the links all go to the January 2013 drive instead of March, so it looks like the Buddy is out of date. I see that another person has signed up today for the March drive and put January 2013 into their signup... Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 15:36, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems that the previous backlog drive page was simply copied and updated so that it could be used for the March backlog (Actually, the default signup link still asked users to create a January backlog subpage). The AFCBuddy page had the same issue - since i only learned about the backlog drive when the bot send me a message i hadn't changed the signup page to accommodate sign-ups for the new drive. Either way, that issue should be fixed now. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 18:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in, but will the buddy be run at some point? cause i'm starting to worry my tally will be 0 :P FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:19, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the Buddy is supposed to do, but as I've been doing my AfC Reviews, I've been manually transferring the Review-links to my Backlog Drive page myself. So far as I can tell from looking at the editing history on the other participants' Drive pages, everyone else with numbered entries on their Drive pages is doing the same. Shearonink (talk) 22:44, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

bugger, then it's back to square one? how on earth am i supposed to count the hundreds of reviews thus far? i just hope it's run sooner or later. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:58, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the offer of the Teahouse, but I don't think I'm going to bother helping with Wikipedia anymore. I feel overwhelmed by the regulations. And given my lack of access to a decent academic library, I don't have the resources necessary to adequately "prove" anything. The other part that makes this very difficult is that a whole lot of knowledge with hypnotists is passed down orally, so wikipedia's reliance on written documentation makes things difficult. Scwalsh (talk) 20:53, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Thank you for your input about the article on Peter Tiboris. I've been hoping to receive constructive criticism and finally have suggestions that may help me better the article. Tomorrow I will revise the intro and, if you don't mind, run it by you. Again, thanks. Dzeidman (talk) 22:45, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

You are invited to a Women in the Arts Meetup & Edit-a-thon on Friday, March 29

In honor of Women's History Month, the Smithsonian and the National Museum of Women in the Arts are teaming up to organize a Women in the Arts Meetup & Edit-a-thon on Friday, March 29, 2013 from 10:00am - 5:00pm. The event is focused on encouraging women editors while improving Wikipedia entries about women artists and art world figures. This event is free of charge, but participation is limited to 20 volunteers, so RSVP today! Sarasays (talk) 23:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for tightening up my article on Marc Geiger. I'm a former publicist -- I have to watch the adjectives. JSFarman (talk) 21:40, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Heh, no problem. I am in the middle of a Review on it too. Shearonink (talk) 21:41, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations, it's an article Marc Geiger. Shearonink (talk) 21:44, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I just saw it! I've got goosebumps. Literally! THANK YOU! JSFarman (talk) 21:52, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

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Ohlson 38

Sorry, I give up and will not continue to submit an article on the matter.

Here was your comment, please see my additoons in Italics: Even though there are a number of references for this draft, in my opinion the notability of this particular boat design has not been proven. If the creator of this draft is interested in these boats then perhaps an article about the designer might be do-able...after all, it is the *person* who is in the Encyclopedia of Yacht Designers. Comment: This comment lacks relevance. a) The information on Einar Ohlson is scarce to say the least, otherwise I would have quoted more. I would love to write an article in the the designer. I am in contact with the family with no benefit as they are not able to share more. The reference to the Encyclepedia does not make any sense as I was the contributor. b) Whether the reviewer sees the relevance of this boat seems to spring from his personal opinion rather than expertise.

Sections of this entry appear to be possible copyright violations of content from the Ohlson38 website: Ohlson 38 Production and Ohlson 38 History. If you are the copyright owner of this content and you want to donate it to Wikipedia, you will have to read Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries. I am the owner of the website but with all intents and purposes I cannot find the document to fill in. No reviewer before has identified this as an issue so the review process seems to show a lack of constancy.

Sorry, this is a deeply frustrating exercise! I have published more than 10 scientific papers via peer review process and I have never experienced a process like this. I repeatedly get different reviewers who do not even have the courtesy to respond to questions nor seem to value what has been addressed before. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohlson38 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia can sometimes be an exercise in frustration because it is the encyclopedia anyone can edit, so any single one of us can have a different answer than another editor as we all can possibly have different levels of experience and different understandings of policies and guidelines. Anyone who takes the time to Review AfC submissions is a volunteer as are all the other editors you will come into contact with on the project - people who edit Wikipedia live in many different timezones and many different countries, they have lives that sometimes interfere with responding to messages or concerns. All that being said, on to your comments:

• Articles must be supported by multiple, independent reliable sources. I was trying to help you out here, saying that if you cannot find sufficient content to support an article on the boat, perhaps you could find content to support an article on its designer. The sailboat data references are data *only*, nothing about what makes this particular boat or its designer notable. Why this boat? Why not his other designs? Why not the designer himself? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, it relies on what has been published elsewhere in reliable sources. If there are not enough sources to support an article about the designer, then there's not much to be done. Wikipedia requires sources to protect the subject, to protect its readers, to protect the information...because Wikipedia relies on the concept of verifiability. If anyone can write anything and they don't have to have enough sources, then Wikipedia would not be an encyclopedia, it would be a simple blog.
• So, the content that I mentioned is from the Ohlson38 website, I am sorry other Reviewers did not catch it. Wikipedia takes others' right to their own work very seriously and requires written permission to re-use cut&paste content from other sources. If you still wanted to work on this draft and use the content from the Ohlson38 website, again, this is what you should do:

1. Go to Consent form for content to be re-used on Wikipedia and look it over.
2. Copy the following text and fill out the form as follows:

I (YOUR NAME) hereby assert that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the content at the following website address: http://PUT ADDRESS HERE.

Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike License 3.0, and the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of these licenses are held at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License and http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GNU_Free_Documentation_License.

I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws.

I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me.

I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

SIGN HERE: DATE, NAME OF THE COPYRIGHT HOLDER

Send the above filled-out text/form to: permissions-commons|wikimedia.org

And, yes, Wikipedia is a completely different kind of animal than writing articles for a peer-reviewed journal or perhaps writing an essay. I hope this helps. And, please remember, even if in your opinion it doesn't?... I did just take about a half-hour to type it up and try to help you. Shearonink (talk) 16:35, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I sent the declaration requested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ohlson38 (talk • contribs) 10:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Vidal101 submissions climate data

Sorry for any confusion but the weatherboxes were not for submisson - its just a little testing I was doing and/or just to pass time. Once again sorry for any confusions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vidal101 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Happy Easter!!!

Happy Easter!

So a print encyclopedia, a strawberry shortcake, and a sycamore walk into a bar - wait, have you heard this one? (talk) 00:13, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Wulfing cache

Last year when I had this article up for DYK? you left a note at my talk asking "where are the plates now and are they on display anywhere?" I recently spoke to someone who I believe works at the Saint Louis Art Museum, who informed me that the plates are going on display this spring and will be on display there for a year. It is the only time all 8 plates have been displayed at once. I'm going to try and make it there myself sometime this summer. Here are some related articles I created in the last week or so: Mound 34 (home of the copper workshop) and Mound 72 (which I currently have as a proposed DYK?) Cheers! Heiro 22:52, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary

Hi, just to let you know that the "FRINGE" issue has cropped up again on the talk page and I restarted Reported haunting of Alcatraz after it was deleted by the same editor.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 11:49, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

AfC

Hello there! Would it be possible for some of my AfC reviews to be examined by you? User Ryan Vesey raised some concerns and I would like to receive third-party opinions on this. Please highlight any errors in my talk page. Thank you for your trouble! Regards, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 23:04, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Was afk for a bit but will take a look & review over the next few days & leave feedback on your talkpage. Shearonink (talk) 05:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks! FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 10:30, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia Meetup NYC this Sunday April 14

Hi Shearonink! You're invited to our next meeting for Wikipedia Meetup NYC on Sunday April 14 -this weekend- at Symposium Greek Restaurant @ 544 W 113th St (in the back room), on the Upper West Side in the Columbia University area.

Please sign up, and add your ideas to the agenda for Sunday. Thanks!

Delivered on behalf of User:Pharos, 18:09, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, April 13!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, April 13 at 5:30 PM All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 36. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 19:10, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

List of professional cyclists who died during a race

Hello, Shearonink,

A Mexican cyclist, Radamés Treviño (Monterrey, Nuevo León, Mexico 12/07/1942-Mexico City, 04/21/1970) died after embedding himself against a car driven the wrong way.

He won two Silver Medals and one Bronze Medal during the 5th Pan American Games held at Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, from July 23 to August 6, 1967.

He is mentioned at:

http://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1968/CYC/mens-individual-pursuit-4000-metres.html (In English).

In Spanish language:

http://www.labicicleta.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1604 (penultimate paragraph of gray-shaded area).

http://www.deia.com/2009/10/08/deportes/ciclismo/el-ciclista-mas-llorado-de-mexico

Cordially,

Alejandro Ochoa G., Guadalajara, Mexico.
189.162.239.154 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.162.239.154 (talk) 15:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the post, got the sourced information added to the article. Shearonink (talk) 20:38, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetups on April 19 and 20

Wikimedia DC invites you to join us for two exciting events this weekend:

On the evening of Friday, April 19, we're hosting our first-ever WikiSalon at our K Street office. The WikiSalon will be a twice-monthly informal meetup and collaborative editing event to help build the community of Wikimedia enthusiasts here in DC; please join us for its inaugural session. Light refreshments will be provided.

On Saturday, April 20, we've partnered with the George Washington University to host the All Things GW Edit-a-Thon at the Teamsters Labor History Research Center. Please join us for behind-the-scenes tours of the University Archives and help edit articles about GWU history.

We look forward to seeing you at one or both of these events! Kirill ^[talk] 20:14, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

An Barnstar for You!

	The AFC Backlog Buster Barnstar
	Congratulations, Shearonink! You're receiving The AFC and Teamwork Barnstars because you reviewed 182 articles during the recent AFC Backlog elimination drive! Thank you for you contributions to Wikipedia at-large and helping to keep the backlog down. We hope you continue reviewing submissions and stay in touch at the talk page. Thank you and keep up the good work! Mdann52 (talk) 12:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

AFT5 re-enabled

Hey Shearonink :). Just a note that the Article Feedback Tool, Version 5 has now been re-enabled. Let us know on the talkpage if you spot any bugs. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 01:02, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Took your name in vain

If I've misrepresented you at my !vote at WP:Requests for adminship/BDD, please correct me. (Thank u.) Ihardlythinkso (talk) 02:28, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, May 11!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, May 11 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

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Holiday cheer

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I am sorry

Please, give me a chance! I assure you! I have changed! I seen the error of my ways! I will change! Truly I will change!— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.172.0 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 28 January 2013(UTC)

Yes I promise to use my edits for verifiable sources instead of making up some...— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.172.0 (talk • contribs) 17:40, 28 January 2013(UTC)

DC WikiSalon on May 24

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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 18:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Webinar / edit-a-thon at the National Library of Medicine (NLM)

Join us at the NLM next week, either in person or online, to learn about NLM resources, hear some great speakers, and do some editing!

organized by Wiki Project Med

On Tuesday, 28 May there will be a community Wikipedia meeting at the United States National Library of Medicine in Bethesda, Maryland - with a second on Thursday, 30 May for those who can't make it on Tuesday. You can participate either in-person, or via an online webinar. If you attend in person, USB sticks (but not external drives) are ok to use.

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May 2013

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DC WikiSalon on June 6

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We look forward to seeing you there! Kirill ^[talk] 12:01, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Have time on Saturday?

I'm sorry for the last-minute notice, but on Saturday, June 8, from 3 to 6 PM, Wikimedia DC and the Cato Institute are hosting a Legislative Data Meetup. We will discuss the work done so far by WikiProject U.S. Federal Government Legislative Data to put data from Congress onto Wikipedia, as well as what more needs to be done. If you have ideas you'd like to contribute, or if you're just curious and feel like meeting up with other Wikipedians, you are welcome to come! Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

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DC meetup & dinner on Saturday, June 15!

Please join Wikimedia DC for a social meetup and dinner at Vapiano (near Farragut North/Farragut West) on Saturday, June 15 at 5:30 PM. All Wikipedia/Wikimedia and free knowledge/culture enthusiasts, regardless of editing experience, are welcome to attend! All ages welcome!

For more information and to sign up, please see the meetup page. Hope to see you there! Kirill ^[talk] 20:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject AFC needs your help... again

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject AFC is holding a one month long Backlog Elimination Drive!
The goal of this drive is to eliminate the backlog of unreviewed articles. The drive is running from July 1st, 2013 – July 31st, 2013.

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There is a backlog of over 1000 articles, so start reviewing articles! Visit the drive's page and help out!

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June 2013

Re: Reverting me; Ha! I have to admit to a brief moment of outrage. Don't worry about it, I'm sure I've done worse myself. Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC)

Oscar Terán

What you've done with the article! You just can't do that! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.23.5.189 (talk) 22:40, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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Death cycling list

First of all, nice work on putting the stuff into the table itself, that is just a pain in the butt doing that stuff. About the color, if every single row is blue I don't see a point in the color at all. And also there's a WP thing about color and the site being used by color blind people that rules out excessive color use (I ran into the same problem you did - coloring the table - with one as well and an editor pointed it out). Images on the right is just what I've noticed in almost every featured list... You could put them on the left if you really want - but I think when viewing on the mobile version the images would show before the table does - which is very aggravating for the user. I hope this helps. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 04:16, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words - this article was so sad when I first saw it about three years ago with no sourcing and so many unsubstantiated claims. I decided these people who died participating in the sport deserved better than what they had previously gotten. Though I had never heard that before, the color background issue makes sense (heh, but then I suppose why does WP have background color at all? one of those WP:MYSTERIES...) About the decades change...I think that the previous version helped to break up the list (which has a tendency to turn into a "wall o'text" otherwise) and also puts the cyclists in their time by placing them in the decade that they died in. An added benefit is that by doing so can give the reader pause...why were there so many deaths in the 1900s & in the 1910s? Why so few in the '40s and then again so many in the 2000s?...and maybe interest them in further research on their own. Separating the deaths into decades makes sense to me but I am interested in hearing why you removed the sectioning. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 04:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

About the decades, the riders are still listed in chronological order so the are still with their decade. The combined/new table allows the user to sort through all the tables to find commonalities he/she might be looking for by using the sorting option for just the one table, compared to the 12 + tables for the decades. As for the reader questioning the deaths, they still can with the large, combined table, and you could always modify the lead and talk about why the deaths have fluctuated over the years "with newer regulations as the years went by and world conflicts that halted the sport of cycling, and just bad luck." Or something like that, because the deaths nowadays are usually just by chance since the sport is so heavily regualted. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 14:46, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I find the decadeless form to be somewhat confusing. Looking at the entire article on the page, the text now visually overwhelms the individual entries and the people get lost within the words and the mono-table. I guess my train of thought was that people would come to the article, maybe not remembering exactly when someone died and not quite remembering the spelling and be able to look within the decades to find their information. The decade-sections were also a legacy from the article's previous form, so I decided to just work with it as presented.

I noticed that you added specific dates for some of the deaths...but so far as I know, especially the early 20th century deaths, the actual date was not present in the cited source material (many of them were found in the original German by Nicola54 and are from Sport-Album der Rad-Welt). If you could add your references for those dates that would be great.

I am going to play around with moving some of the pics to a gallery and maybe deleting some...they look crowded over on the right and one is impinging on some text. (Btw love all those flags you added!) Shearonink (talk) 15:33, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I got the dates from the German version of the list which had them all sourced, but I didn't think to move the refs over. What you could do for the images is add another "col" to the table titled image and add the images to the table itself for the rider in question? If you see what I'm saying? (Like in this featured list) Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 15:42, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Heh, Tables are not really my thing but yeah, that sounds very do-able.

The last time I saw the German list it was not all that well-sourced...I wonder if there's some possible circular sourcing going on here...maybe they are using the Eng-WP refs to cite their statements...and then the Eng-WP would turn around and use the German-WP article's refs...I've seen that happen before on other articles. With referencing on this article, I remember having to delete some names because no references could be found...that was a sad day, but not unexpected after all my research...it became pretty clear to me that so much of cycling's history was ephemeral and has been lost.

Btw, do you really like the decadeless form better? I just have such a hard time with it... Shearonink (talk) 15:55, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

From the looks of it, the German one is sourcing a newspaper of sorts... So I don't think they're sourcing the English wikipedia. And yes I do, its much smoother and simpler. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 17:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I think your changes & tweaks all make sense to me but the layout change one - the removal of the decades makes it harder for me to find the individual cyclists and also makes it harder to read the individual blurbs when I do find them on the page. Shearonink (talk) 18:05, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Reading the blurbs for each one is the exact same as it would be if it were in the decade tables before. I don't understand what you're saying about the finding of riders, they are in the same order as before - except for some which have been put in chronological order - but in a bigger table. If its an individual person you're looking for there you can use CTRL + F and type the name in to locate him or if you want just scroll down until you find the decade he was from by looking at the death date column. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 18:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes the content is the same as before but now you look at the whole page and all the cyclists blur together visually...it's one looooooong mass of text (plus, in order to edit the article, an editor has to load the majority of the content...and loading/lag-time/hangups can be an issue for many). Shearonink (talk) 18:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Have run into an edit conflict with the images, I was moving them the same time that you are moving them. The problem with having an individual box for an image is that there are no CC-BY-SA images for many of these cyclists...believe me, I searched. If they are out there, they are incredibly difficult to find and/or access. I was trying to put in a gallery to see if that helped the bunching issue on the right, this is along the lines of what I was trying to do. Shearonink (talk) 19:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I see you've found some more images...that's great! I guess I just didn't look hard enough for some of them... Shearonink (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

CC-BY-SA? Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 19:19, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Freely-available for re-use as in Wikipedia:Text of Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License and in CC-BY-SA. Many pics have copyright notices I found online had copyright notices and were not available within WP pages. I might not have checked Commons or WP images as closely as you obviously have. Shearonink (talk) 19:26, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I gotchu now. If you want, you could upload images from the internet - by googling the riders in question - of the cyclists taken before 1943 and add them to the wikipedia commons since the european copyright is up 70 years after the image was taken and published. I did that for a photo of Luigi Ganna ([File:1234883933LuigiGanna-Milaan-1909.jpg here.]). Just a suggestion, you don't have to if you don't want to. Disc Wheel (Talk + Tontributions) 19:36, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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toblerone page

Toblerone

I have been trying several times to edit this page but all ways i am shot down, but this time i have a very reliable source from this web site i am told it is not good enough i do not under stand why the web site is here http://www.mondelezinternational.com/ph/en/brands/confectionery/toblerone.aspx I hope this site is a reliable site because it talks of dates that are different from the Toblerone page.How through the decades, Toblerone expanded its product line and underwent mergers with other food companies. Most noteworthy of these was the merger in 1990 with Philip Morris Companies Inc. It talks about merging not acquired the toblerone product and this date of 1990 how it sold it to kraft this site says it merged in 1990 then went on to do this. The latter acquired the then Jacobs Suchard AG which made Toblerone, and in 1991 created Jacobs Suchard International as a unit of its Kraft General Foods business. This is all i am trying to add why can this not be added.my email add is mtobler@yahoo.com.thank you.(Miketobler (talk) 19:34, 13 December 2013 (UTC))

Out with the old...

For 2014: Wishing you a Healthy, Happy and Fulfilling NEW YEAR! Shir-El too 07:51, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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I didn't remove anything from those pages. I just tweaked the musical artist format? WIth tobey macguire, nothing was removed either. I just changed the "children" segment to "2" rather than naming both his children- this just makes it look neater. The same case with Alec Balwin. Just trying to make it all look neater. Must you continue to reverse my changes?? :I Miss.Indecisive (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not disagree with the other editors as has been posted on your talkpage here and here. I see that you are a fairly-new editor. It is a good thing to remember that Wikipedia is always a work in progress, it's the encyclopedia anyone can edit. It is important to remember, then, to discuss changes & issues as they occur, to discuss the edits themselves (not the editors), to establish an editorial consensus about the encyclopedia's contents (all of which should occur on article's talk pages) and to maintain civility in any posted comments. Also, since you seem to have a specific interest in the usage of Infoboxes in Biographies of living persons, I would suggest you look over WikiProject Biography and Guidelines. It also appears that you have changed some of the Infoboxes from Infobox (job/work) to Infobox person. Please take a look at all the Infobox Templates that have been created for use in Wikipedia biographical articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Infoboxes and Category:People infobox templates.

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Hey there. If you have rollback, could you please take another look at the Alexander Calder article. I think I missed one of the vandal's edits. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 16:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

I just went in and deleted the vandalism, thanks for spotting it, I missed it too. People seem drawn to vandalizing that article...I have no idea why. Shearonink (talk) 16:52, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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I'm just curious...why is it that several musical artists such as Jessica Simpson and Katy Perry have infobox person formats (blended with infobox musical artist) whilst others such as Kelly Clarkson, Britney Spears and Avril Lavigne do not? I just think it would so much more efficient to incorporate both aspects.. and include segments of their personal life- which is one reason they have a page in the first place, so people can learn more about them. However, if doing so is going against some sort of infobox code, I completely understand. Yet it seems to have been breached and accepted with regards to Jessica Simpson, Katy Perry and several others. Cheers :)

Miss.Indecisive (talk) 13:12, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

I think it's just the way the individual articles have been edited in the past and the accepted style within each article and also the accepted style within the various projects. If you think Infobox person is perhaps superior or if you think that a new hybrid of Infobox/musical artist needs to be designed, then that is something to be discussed either on the individual talk pages for the artists' articles or alternatively, if you wish to seek a broader editorial consensus, maybe take a look at the following noticeboards/talk pages/etc. I have picked Wikipedia pages & projects that are active and have had posts within the past few months.

• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musicians
• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Music...This page is simply a directory to all the various Wikipedia WikiProjects that are concerned with music & culture and can be overwhelming at first glance, it is simply provided here for you to see how many different WikiProjects there are.

If you wish to perhaps post and gather fellow editors' thoughts on how Infoboxes should be implemented in musicians' articles, I think perhaps a good place to start would be any of the following:

• Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Infoboxes
• Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)
• Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)

Hope this helps, Shearonink (talk) 23:01, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for all the help!! Truly appreciate it :) Miss.Indecisive (talk) 12:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

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DC Meetups in March

Happy March!

Though we have a massive snowstorm coming up, spring is just around the corner! Personally, I am looking forward to warmer weather.

Wikimedia DC is looking forward to a spring full of cool and exciting activities. In March, we have coming up:

• Evening WikiSalon on Wednesday, March 12 from 7 PM – 9 PM. Meet up with Wikipedians for coffee at the Cove co-working space in Dupont Circle! If you cannot make it in the evening, join us at our...
• March Meetup on Sunday, March 23 from 3 PM – 6 PM. Our monthly weekend meetup, same place as last month. Meet really cool and interesting people!
• Women in the Arts 2014 meetup and edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 30 from 10 AM – 5 PM. Our second annual Women in the Arts edit-a-thon, held at the National Museum of Women in the Arts. Free lunch will be served!

We hope to see you at our upcoming events! If you have any questions, feel free to ask on my talk page.

— Harej (talk) 05:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

More redirects

I nominated a couple more of Mr. Guye's evil redirects. (Ambiguity intended.) Just thought you might want to know. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 18:48, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

It's not Redirects for Deletion, whatever Twinkle or any tool says, it is redirects for discussion. Si Trew (talk) 13:04, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

RfD

howdo,

You've been bringing a lot of redirects to WP:RFD on morality topics and never contributed to any of the discussions, it might be helpful if you did so. RfD is Redirects for Discussion, not Redirects for Deletion. Si Trew (talk) 13:03, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

I thought nominating these various redirects for discussion and making my thoughts clear on the matter in my nomination was discussion enough? I usually never deal with RfD but came across multiple redirects that I thought were dubious, (the subject matter being extraneous so far as I am concerned). I am willing to be dissuaded on any of the various RfDs. I did post some further thoughts to the discussion on March 3 List of euphemisms. So far none of the other discussions have changed my mind...am I supposed to post that "none of this has changed my mind"? Shearonink (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

That's handy, but you've been bringing a lot, and it is redirects for discussion not deletion and you never seem to bung in any more discussion when they are being discussed. I checked out and found a lot of references for various ones you've brought there, and I can see why you bring them there and they need discussing, but not all will be deleted, some will be retargeted or even (I did this a couple of days ago, not on the evil/morality one) a new article stub will be created, so I do not think it is enough just to throw it in to RfD and then leave other editors to do your homework. There is now another editor bunging in a load on the morality/evil issues and I am sure this is just coincidence but it starts to look like WP:SOCKPUPPET. I am not saying for a minute it is, I am saying if you just throw it in and don't then respond in the discussion, it could look like that. Yes, perfectly why can't you add your comment after others have made theirs? Make it firmer, by all means "I see what you say but I still think...." Si Trew (talk) 22:33, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

When did I ever say that RfD was "deletion" instead of "discussion"? I think I've been perfectly nice to you and have also reached out to the editor who created these redirects. But now you're insinuating that my editing could somehow give the impression that I'm a sockpuppet? Or you're hinting that other editors might perhaps think some other editor is my sock? Shearonink (talk) 03:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

As far as "List of Euphemisms" is concerned, you might want to consider I was one of the contributors to that discussion as well, and inn fact changed my opinion because of the discussion, but I try to do my homework. Si Trew (talk) 22:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Nice attitude to have about another editor...denigrating my work - by saying I "leave other editors to do (my) homework" (plus stating you "try to do (your) homework" - which implies again that I somehow don't do mine) and accusing me of being involved in sockpuppetry.

Look, I only RFD'ed these various redirects because they didn't make sense to me and there were so many of them. I'm pretty sure that in doing so I was following Wikipedia guidelines. Editors have different opinions about what's valid for redirects, I'm willing to see what other people have to say on the matter. If my mind is changed I will say so. If my mind is not changed, I don't see the value in repeating myself.

I think it would be best if you don't post on my talk page for a while. Shearonink (talk) 03:30, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

An exciting month of wiki events!

Hello there,

I am pleased to say that April will be a very exciting month for Wikipedia in Washington, DC. We have a lot of different events coming up, so you will have a lot to choose from.

First, a reminder that our second annual Women in the Arts Edit-a-Thon will take place on Sunday, March 30 at the National Museum of Women in the Arts.

Coming up in April, we have our first-ever Open Government WikiHack with the Sunlight Foundation on April 5–6! We are working together to use open government data to improve the Wikimedia projects, and we would love your help. All are welcome, regardless of coding or editing experience. We will also be having a happy hour the day before, with refreshments courtesy of the Sunlight Foundation.

On Friday, April 11 we are having our first edit-a-thon ever with the Library of Congress. The Africa Collection Edit-a-Thon will focus on the Library's African and Middle East Reading Room. It'll be early in the morning, but it's especially worth it if you're interested in improving Wikipedia's coverage of African topics.

The following day, we are having our second annual Wiki Loves Capitol Hill training. We will discuss policy issues relevant to Wikimedia and plan for our day of outreach to Congressional staffers that will take place during the following week.

There are other meetups in the works, so be sure to check our meetup page with the latest. I hope to see you at some of these events!

All the best,
James Hare

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Isn't a TV episode good as a first rate source?

Hi I tried adding information to the page for Gilligan's Island. However, my information was taken out because it did not have a third party source. However, I cited the TV show episode to support my claim. My claim is that Gilligan's first name could be Robin because Gilligan was hypnotized and called Robin in the episode Ring Around Gilligan. You can view the episode for free here: http://www.tubeplus.me/player/954573/Gilligan's_Island/season_3/episode_9/Ring_Around_Gilligan/%22 Isn't the direct TV episode good enough as a first rate source because it is a direct content source? To verify my claim, readers just need to watch the episode. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jvincentsong2 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Ugh

I think I must be the only one who find the typography change quite jarring, it makes everything MUCH harder for me to read. The spacing is all off now on all the pages (articles, talkpages, userpages, Watchlist, etc). Edit Histories are also more difficult.... I think it's that the spacing is all the same so the different lines visually all blend together on the page. GACK. Shearonink (talk) 15:05, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6

Please join Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon on December 6, 2013! Everyone gather at Queens Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach for borough articles on the history and the communities. Drop-ins welcome 10am-7pm!--Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

AFC Backlog Drive

Saturday: NYC Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon

Please join Wikipedia "Art and Feminism Editathon" @ Eyebeam on Saturday February 1, 2014, an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Wikipedia articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists! There are also regional events that day in Brooklyn, Westchester County, and the Hudson Valley. --Pharos (talk)

Check out the progess :)

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

You are invited to join upcoming Wikipedia "Editathons", where both experienced and new Wikipedia editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March: Saturday March 1: Harlem History Editathon (RSVP), focusing on Harlem history, landmarks and biographies Saturday March 8: NYU Law Editathon (RSVP), focusing on innovation law and intellectual property (with social dinner afterward) I hope to see you there! Pharos (talk)

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Booth's racist line

I just realized. Someone deleted the "N" word from Booth's citizenship line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.135.101 (talk) 21:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)