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Did you happen to get any photos that would help illustrate U.S. Route 2 in Michigan. The article is at A-Class Review and headed to FAC at some point later this year. Sadly, the article, for all of its length, is woefully under-illustrated. Imzadi 1979  01:22, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

I have MANY photos taken on US2 in Michigan. I see that I took 2 of the current photos and I had photographed the other one too but didn't want to duplicate. What else would you like to see? I photographed US2 traveling east from Escanaba to St. Ignace just a few months ago. Here's a few interesting ones (at least to me) from late August 2011:
  1. Intersection with M-117 with construction barrels lining the road (US2 sign is moderately visible)
  2. Just east of there, several nice shots showing asphalt overlay with the road. The westbound lane is higher than the eastbound
  3. I hadn't know that the Cut River Bridge was historic but I have a nice shot looking down the center line
  4. Several pretty shots showing the road hugging the shore of Lake Michigan with the Lake taking almost half of the shot
  5. Several pretty shots showing the sand dunes with little Lake Michigan or dunes on both sides of the road
  6. One with lots of traffic: a group of cars coming toward the camera, one ahead, and about 4 parked on the right (people where out swimming on the beaches who are not visible))
  7. The Mystery Spot sign (probably not since it's blatant advertising)
  8. If you're looking at attractions near the road, I have a shot ready of the Father Marquette National Memorial
  9. A bunch of photos along that route of the tiny communities like Brevort
  10. Then traveling westbound: Looking north on I-75 of the sign for US2
  11. Looking west at tree-lined road
  12. Looking west at sand dunes
  13. Looking west at sand dunes on the left and Lake Michigan on the right
  14. Nice one in Brevort with the US2 sign pretty prevalent (this one for sure)
  15. A bunch of beach shots taken at the park along US2 for the northernmost point of Lake Michigan
  16. Small sign entering Schoolcraft County
  17. Then in July: An excellent shot of the co-sign of US2 and US41 looking west in Escanaba
  18. Shots of the 65 miles per hour segment north of Gladstone
  19. Split with US41 in that same area
  20. Intersection with M-183 showing lots of woods lining the road
  21. The bridge in Manistique
  22. I like File:NorwayWisconsinUS2.jpg

I'm sure there's more but I suspect this is enough. Royalbroil 12:53, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Let's see, the Cut River Bridge photo could be good for Cut River Bridge. Some of the Lake Michigan ones would be good for the RD or the "Memorial designations and tourist routes" sections. If I could get a different second photo for the "Eastern segment" section, that could allow me to shift the eastern terminus photo over to the History section. The 65-mph segment in the Gladstone area would be good for the "Post-Interstate era" subsection in the history.
Basically, I'm trying to have a photo in each of the major section/subsections of the article. I probably don't look for a photo related to the "Indian trail through early statehood" subsection because it it so short and Business route already has an infobox for "visual interest" to break up the "wall of text". Imzadi 1979  20:31, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Done. I uploaded File:US2 US41 Sign Escanaba Michigan.jpg because I really like it but I don't know where it would fit in well. Royalbroil 12:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Did you say that you had a photo of the new, plain mileposts along M-185 on Mackinac Island? Mitchazenia (talk · contribs) and I are planning on sending that article to FAC after we do some touch-ups on it. Any photos that you have would be helpful. There's already commons:Category:M-185 (Michigan highway) set up. Imzadi 1979  01:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

I uploaded File:Mile 1 Marker M-185 Mackinac Island.jpg of Mile Marker 1 and File:M-185 Downtown Mackinac Island Michigan.jpg of M-185 in downtown Mackinac Island. I have a photo of people biking on the back side of the island but I didn't upload it. I have a shot of the road as a street in the outer edges of the city with no people on it. Also, there are a LOT of historic places on the route and I think they should be listed for completeness since the article is at the highest level. I have a panning photo of a carriage on the route right in front of the Mission church. Royalbroil 02:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
I think that the historic sites should all be listed in the RD, but it's possible that we missed one or two of the minor ones. Go ahead and keep uploading photos to Commons for the category, and I'll look through and add as many as possible (without swamping the page, of course). Imzadi 1979  02:37, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh, since the article has been through ACR already, we're taking some comments on the talk page in advance of the FAC co-nom; not a big formal review but just a touch-up. Imzadi 1979  02:43, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
I added File:Mackinac Island Michigan Carriage Mission Church M-185.jpg with the carriage, File:M-185 Edge of Mackinac Island Michigan.jpg of the street with no people on it, and File:M-185 Biking near Mile Marker1.jpg. Upon further review, I think you're right that you do have all of the historic places. Royalbroil 03:04, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

US 2

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Ping. Imzadi 1979  01:52, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Ping again. Imzadi 1979  22:46, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Rockwood, Wisconsin

Hi-I started the Rockwood, Wisconsin article. I also started one on Shoto, Wisconsin for I noticed a photo of Shoto Creek. I like doing articles on the unincorporated communities in Wisconsin; each community is unique. Right now I am going through a case of political burnout and Wikipedia has nothing to do with it. My area just had a recall election Wisconsin Senate and now we are going to have a special election to fill a Wisconsin Assembly seat. So I am relunctant to start articles about politicians although I am willing to help improve existing articles. I hope you are well-RFD (talk) 17:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Interview with Wikimedia Foundation

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Thanks ...

... for cleaning up my mess at National Register of Historic Places listings in Brown County, Wisconsin! --sanfranman59 (talk) 17:27, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

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Jimmie Johnson's 2011 section

Hello, I have went into more detail for his 2011 season so far, but is it too much? -- Nascar1996(TalkContribs) 14:56, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks reasonable, although I'd probably skips some of the mid to lower place finishes that aren't very important to the season. Royalbroil 04:24, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Sad to see you go from April 1st

hey, I saw you removed your name from April fools "Coordinators and Members." Its sad to see you go as you have done more for April Fools than anyone else I can think of. I wish you well in all your other Wiki endeavors and hope you will still swing by the April Fools Pages now and again to add your opinions.--Found5dollar (talk) 15:08, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I haven't been involved with DYK since it was totally changed to something unrecognizable several months ago by the FA people. That section was my main involvement with April Fool's Day. The process to vet for DYK is completely different. So the decision had nothing to do with April Fools. Royalbroil 04:13, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Looking for input

Could you please chime in at Talk:Jill Billings#Removal of the section discussing her opponent's attack on her religious activities? --Orange Mike | Talk 21:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Forgotten ping

You had asked me to ping you when US 2 was at FAC. I'm sorry that I forgot that, and it's been up for a few days now at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/U.S. Route 2 in Michigan/archive1. M-185 is at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/M-185 (Michigan highway)/archive1 since I think you wanted to be notified of that as well. Imzadi 1979  03:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

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RFA thankspam

Thank you for your support at my recent successful RFA. Being now the new fellow in the fraternity of administrators, I will do my best to live up to the confidence shown in me by others, will move slowly and carefully when using the mop, will seek input from others before any action of which I might be unsure, and will try not to break anything beyond repair. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Just a reminder

The Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Fall 2011 Photo Contest closes in a few minutes. I'll just ask that you wrap up your judging tasks over the next day or 2. Thanks. Smallbones (talk) 04:27, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! Royalbroil 04:29, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

State traveler

Thanks for the barnstar, but you may have awarded it prematurely. Unfortunately, Google Maps doesn't yield the same distance in both directions. If you go from the survey marker to Ft. Robinson, it gives a distance of 577 miles; but if you go in the opposite direction, it comes up with a route that's only 552 miles long. I think User:Visitor7 beat me fair and square on this one. (If you read the description text at the Commons page, it sounds as if he really had to work to do it: the Wheeler Ridge site took some getting to.) Ammodramus (talk) 22:58, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

I found the talk page this morning before work and noticed your comment. I contemplated today and decided that BOTH of you will get the barnstar. It's too close to call! Why interpret when both of you worked very hard and earned it? Royalbroil 01:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

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Wow, I noticed and repaired within 1 hour. Royalbroil 13:19, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

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Edit warring

Thank you for your constructive comments. However, I don't think you understood the nature of the disagreement. User Beyond My Ken requested additional sources, which I provided, but he/she did not realize I was providing additional sources. There was no change-and-revert edit war. The other user is satisfied with the sources and I believe we both consider the incident to be a misunderstanding. Doremo (talk) 04:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

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2012 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

Like last year, IPs are editing this article left and right. Most of it speculation. Could we get it semi-protected like last year? (Did I ask you? I can't remember) -- Nascar1996(TalkContribs) 18:48, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

 Y Done I protected for 3 months as an extension of what happened in the 2011 article. By then the season will be underway and the article should be a lot more stable. Royalbroil 23:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. -- Nascar1996(TalkContribs) 00:12, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for the recent photos

But I have a favor to ask. Can you double check that a photo is appropriate to the article before adding it? I removed the photo you added to U.S. Route 131 because it was inappropriately placed in the article. The section where you added it was about the early history of that highway. In fact, the paragraph of text next to contained content about the Indian trail in the area that preceded US 131 and even a time when Mark Twain rode along the predecessor to the highway in the 19th century. A photo from 2011 showing the modern terminus doesn't fit. The section where it would fit already has a photo though, so for now, I can't find a replacement location for it.

As for the photo in U.S. Route 31, that doesn't show US 31 at all, just I-75, so it's not going to fit there either. I did leave the one from Bayview in U.S. Route 31 in Michigan alone because I'll move it into the route description at a later date when I rewrite and expand that section. However, photo captions don't get terminal punctuation unless they are a full sentence, so I struck the period. Imzadi 1979  07:00, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

I keep getting more and more upset with seeing how my time has been completely wasted on uploading these highway photos. It takes a long time to identify, crop/cleanup, identify/add categories and upload these files on my slow connection. Instead of moving them where they belong, you just remove them. I'll just upload the city photos since they'll probably survive. My time is WAY too precious to be wasting hours upon hours. Royalbroil 01:17, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
I would have moved the US 131 photo, if there was room for it in the article. As it is, there isn't. It's still linked from the Commons box . M-6 has several photos that aren't in the article, but they still add to the article indirectly. So please keep uploading them, but if the subject highway isn't in the photo, it isn't going to fit well, that's all. That, and it helps if the subject of the photo fits with the section where it's added, especially on the higher assessment levels. Imzadi 1979  01:23, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Help Needed Regarding a Speedy Deletion

It looks like an article I started has been nominated for speedy deletion. I feel this does not apply for the page, but I'm not familiar enough with the specifics. Do you have time to investigate and let me know what you think? The page is BYU Cougars future football schedules. Thanks in advance! User:Fullrabb 11 January 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 22:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC).

The article went to full deletion discussion. I have commented there why the article should be kept in my opinion. Royalbroil 03:47, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

What happens next? User:Fullrabb 11 January 2012 —Preceding undated comment added 18:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC).

It depends on the outcome of the discussion. You are able to participate in the discussion, but with it likely being kept you're probably better off being quiet. The default is to keep if there is no consensus.
Also, you haven't been signing your comments. You do that by adding four tildes which is located to the left of the 1/! key. You need to hit the shift key for it to appear. Here's what it looks like ~~~~. Royalbroil 03:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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DYK for Clifford Allison

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Cool that you had pics of Tim George, Jr. - thanks for adding them! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:02, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Blocking an IP address

Royal, there's a delinquent anonymous user who keeps spamming the 2012 Nationwide and Truck Series pages with a fake TS Motorsports team with Ricky Carmichael. I was wondering if you could block IP's,,, There are probably other IP's, but I think the NASCAR section needs some more admins after this recent attackGaeaman787 (talk) 17:32, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Since it was repeatedly happening to two articles, I semiprotected them both for 1 month. You and other experienced contributors can edit these articles but anon IPs can't. Please let me know if it gets back in a month and I can extend as needed. Royalbroil 02:11, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Royalbroil,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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J J Heller

Protection removed, your sandbox version looks fine to me. I'm not sure what you meant about the other version, which had no RS sources, was unencyclopaedic in tone, and spammy (finishing with Heller has even more to keep her busy in the future, and that’s a good thing. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:31, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

I know, I agree - this diff definitely had major cleanup issues. And it was buried in a myriad of bad attempts at getting the article started. But that particular diff did assert several points of WP:MUSICIAN which was my point. I wouldn't have expected you to look through so many diffs to find the only low-quality diff like I did. No harm, no foul. Thank you for looking it over! Royalbroil 13:23, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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Buffalo Shore Estates, Wisconsin

Hi-The Town of Packwaukee released a comprehensive plan for the town in 2005 and the document refered to Buffalo Shore Estates as one of the unincorporated areas in the town. I am not sure how to link the document to the Buffalo Shore Estates article. A private firm prepared the plan for the town. Buffalo Shore Estates was the name used in the town's comprehensive plan. I am feeling better. Thanks-RFD (talk) 14:39, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The Wisconsin Historical Society-Dictionary of Wisconsin History also refer to Buffalo Shore Esates. The society got the information from the GNIS. The name of Buffalo Shore Estates is in the comprehensive plan of the Town of Packwaukee. I still not sure how to link the document to the article. I am concern about copyright concerns. Thanks-RFD (talk) 16:00, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
If the document was prepared by a professional firm, then the town is able to legally post it on their website. They paid for it! It's considered "work for hire". Royalbroil 17:36, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
I added a citation about the comprehensive plan to the article-Buffalo Shore Estates was mentioned 3 times including a new road the town is planning to connect Buffalo Shore Estates with. Also the town just put up a website that is being developed. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 17:44, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
The Town of Packwaukee is looking at the possibility of becoming a village. I keep telling people reading the legal notices in the newspaper can be interesting especially if you know what you are looking for. The same can be said about legal documents. Thanks as always-RFD (talk) 17:51, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Very interesting. I assume you mean the CDP is looking to become a village. I drove through it (photos to follow - no time now) and it's quite small to be a village. Royalbroil 17:55, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
The whole town would be incorporated. This happen in Bristol, Wisconsin in Kenosha County. Part of the town became a village and then annexed most of the town except for a small section that was annexed by the village of Pleasant Prairie also in Kenosha County. Also there is talk about Marshfield, Wisconsin and surrounding area becoming Wisconsin's 73rd county. However, nothing has been going on with that one. Thank you-RFD (talk) 18:21, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Bay Darnell

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Brockway, Wisconsin

I started the article about the unincorporated community in the town of Brockway, Wisconsin. The article still needs info box and the photo you took. Thanks-RFD (talk) 11:25, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

My bad.

Yes, you are totally right. My bad, and I'm deeply sorry about that. :( However, I can't stand anymore the way he edit stuff on Wikipedia. Always adding fake or innacurate info (since 2006!), editing stuff he doesn't know about, etc etc. It's really sad... --Hydao (talk) 03:41, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Now it's not about the writing skills... And no, he's not doing the "best" he can at all. Creating 5-6-7 articles within 2-3 hours, full of errors, fake info, and other stuff is not doing the best, in my opinion. It is being useless, dumb, pathetic and obsessive. It's quite obvious that he's a no-lifer with some sort of disorder, probably needs to fulfill some sort of emptiness by creating/editing articles in that crappy way... I feel kinda sorry for saying something "horrible" like that but well... ok, it's none of my business if he has no life or whatever, and actually, yes, he can create/edit 1000000000 articles a day, but at least he could do it the right way... I think there is a limit for "lameness" and he has already exceeded that limit for a long... long time, that's why he got blocked several times I think. I know that he edits stuff about NASCAR, but I'm not into it, so I never looked at those articles, which is normal, right? If I am not into a subject, if I don't know sh*t about it, I simply don't "mess" with it. I can give you hundreads and hundreads of examples about his extremely irresponsible and totally non-sense edits... and I really mean it. Sadly, he's extremely LAME, that's all, and I got tired. I don't respect him as a Wikipedia editor, he will not be missed. If he wants to write and invent crap, he can create his own blog and write crap in there, not Wikipedia, thanks. --Hydao (talk) 05:20, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

photos Auroraville, Wisconsin

Hi-Do you have any photos about Auroraville, Wisconsin in Waushara County? Auroraville is in the town of Aurora, Waushara County, Wisconsin and there is a photo of the town in the article. One of the editors redirected the Auroraville article and I change the redirect into an article. Also Auroraville is on one of the main highways. Thanks-RFD (talk) 11:43, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

No I don't. BaronLarf took that photo. I recently drove about 10 miles south of the area but I haven't driven that section of Hwy 21 in a long time. Royalbroil 15:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Steinthal, Wisconsin

Hi-I had to revert an editor's changes to the Steinthal, Wisconsin article. The editor added info and a photo about some lodge in Steinthal. I had questions about it; commercial advertising and possible copyright concerns. I did add a GNIS citation to the article. Would you please take a look? Thank you-RFD (talk) 22:08, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you - it don't belong. It may be a person with good faith editing that just doesn't understand how it reads like an advertisement. Royalbroil 23:00, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

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Quick question and a big thank you!

Hi Royalbroil! Thank you for your help and approving my article! I have one quick question with regards to images. I totally understand why the picture was deleted as what you told me about copyright and in hindsight it does makes sense, so my question is can the person who took the picture upload to it into wikipedia and put it on the article himself as an edit on the article that I created? Thanks once again! :)

Sydirasky (talk) 15:08, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


It was good to get a recent e-mail, and even better when I saw who had signed it. Bigturtle (talk) 01:14, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

  • We haven't met, but I've seen your admin/editing work many times. Bigturtle (talk) 03:12, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Gale College

Hi-an excellent job on the Gale College article-thanks-RFD (talk) 12:39, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! It was fun to research and do another one. It's been a while since I did one that's a deeper subject like this one. It's hard to find information on an older topic. Royalbroil 23:49, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

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Nothing important, just wanted to post a quick thank-you for reviewing and approving my Nine Lashes article.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 02:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad that it was intended to be reviewed as there was a hidden comment about not removing that review label. You did a nice job with the article and there are no major issues that I could see. Seemed like an interesting band so checked them out - reminds me of Red (that's excellent!). Royalbroil 03:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Oh, that hidden comment is on every unreviewed page. I think its only intended for the page creator rather than a reviewer. Anyway, glad you like the band and thanks again.--Invisiboy42293 (talk) 05:36, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

More speculation

Lately, several different IP users have added speculation about a team named TS Motorsports. I haven't been able to find anything about the team so should we protect it like the two other series? -- Nascar1996(TalkContribs) 10:41, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Which article? Royalbroil 02:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
2012 NASCAR Sprint Cup Series... I'm very surprised I didn't put that information in my comment above. -- Nascar1996(TalkContribs) 03:43, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
No problem. I see the vandalism resumed after the protection expired. I semiprotected it for 1 year - by then the season will be over and it likely shouldn't be a big target anymore. Royalbroil 04:27, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you sure you want to do that, Dave?

Regarding the AfD of Tia Norfleet - no question she fails the sports notability standards, but it seems pretty clear to me she meets the general one... - The Bushranger One ping only 03:20, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Please review the other AFD precedent that I cited. You're an admin so check out the deleted article. I looked over her online yesterday and saw no reason to expand the article when she clearly fails the sports notability standard. I'm going to request a do-over on Jared if she is proven to be notable. Royalbroil 03:23, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The sports notability standard does not trump the WP:GNG - she's notable per the WP:GNG, and that's what matters here, regardless of her WP:NSPORT/WP:NMOTORSPORT standing or the other stuff. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
As for Siefert, as an IMCA National champion, I'd argue he's notable enough. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:26, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
The sports notability standard trumped GNG in the other case. Please comment on the AFD. I welcome your comments. Then smack me with a trout if it helps! Royalbroil 03:29, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Seems somebody else needs the trout if they thought WP:NSPORT>WP:GNG! We'll settle with a minnow for you. ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 03:32, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
A minnow is the right size. See this thread in my archive. It clearly was nominated because of the supposed "non-professional" nature of the driver. Royalbroil 03:38, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
  Facepalm Guess we'd better delete Olympic gold-medalists too then! ;) - The Bushranger One ping only 04:41, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Upham House - Wood County NRHP

Hi, Royal. I undid your change, moving the Frank Upham House photo back to the Upham House Historic District. The Frank Upham House is different from the Governor William Upham House, a.k.a. the Upham Mansion. I'd like to put up a photo of the William Upham House, but a man there (well-meaning, no doubt) told me not to. So I'll leave that for someone else.

The Frank Upham house is one of the oldest and classiest in the district and Frank was connected to lumbering, so it seems a good representative. Jeff the quiet (talk) 16:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for undoing my error! I was planning to travel to Marshfield Motor Speedway today and take some photos around town. I had been assessing what needed to be photographed. It turns out that they don't have a race scheduled tonight so I hope to go later this season. Hopefully I'll have time to grab some photographs then. I see your work a lot and you are doing a great job! Royalbroil 19:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


Wow, thanks for the barnstar - I didn't think anyone really noticed the DYK facts (aside from the one fact that mentioned Coldplay), but I'm glad someone enjoys them. It means a lot to me, thanks. :) Toa Nidhiki05 01:50, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd be willing to help on something, certainly, although I have quite a few projects and unanswered GA nominations currently. I don't own The Story, but it'd be an interesting topic due to the all-star lineup; there should be plenty of reviews and articles on it, although finding out sales statistics may be a bit difficult. Toa Nidhiki05 17:37, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


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Hi, Royalbroil. I am not able to view part of your signature with my settings. I have been asked to inform you to change your signature. Please see here. Axl ¤ [Talk] 09:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The request is inappropriate and has no grounding in policy. Feel free to ignore it. Sven Manguard Wha? 20:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
You changed your background so that it's black then you're complaining to everyone who has black in their signature? Why should I have to change because you're picking an unusual preference? I think you need to rethink why you've changed your preference if it's not going to work. Black is a rather common color, is it not? Besides, you'd still be able to see my signature as "broil" which is enough. Royalbroil 04:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for !voting

  at my successful RFA
Thank you, Royalbroil, for !voting at my successful RFA; I am humbled that you put your trust in me. I grant you this flower, which, if tended to properly, will grow to be the fruit of Wikipedia's labours. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:51, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Tim Schendel

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‎Possible Queue 6 late substitution or addition

You an administrator who is listed at WP:DYK as willing to help, so I wanted to call your attention to a particularly timely hook for the next queue Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know#Possible_Queue_6_late_substitution_or_addition. You may want to make a late addition or substitution since the Tony Awards are tonight.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:09, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hey, it's interesting to consider the progress of development of Wikipedia coverage of NRHP historic sites in Wisconsin. Here is a July 6, 2008 version of List of RHPs in WI. I put in a bunch of work "table-izing" to get it to this August 4, 2008 version and more to bring it to this version of 17 February 2010 (plus all the split out list-articles for Waupaca County, etc., etc.). You made many edits before and during and since adding a lot of pics and detail; my work was on the structure. Maybe you didn't really notice it much, but I thought I did a great job during that process with recording and then addressing many "research issues" that took into account details added by you and others previous to the table-izing process, rather than obliterating that info. And I have done most of the work setting up NRHP disambiguation pages nation-wide, which enabled many semi-automated edits properly disambiguating the names for Wisconsin NRHPs. I dunno, I think we shouldn't completely forget about all the past work, which laid the groundwork for more editors to contribute into a great framework. Everything I did was towards being friendly, towards making it easy for many new and experienced editors to collaborate and absorb new energy and create new understanding of our heritage. I do wonder though, what happened; I would have thought there would be a lot more activity since, and am sorry to see so few articles in Wisconsin developed. I hope you are friendly to new editors who show up and want to try to contribute. There's nothing I hate more than seeing bullying of new editors, or experienced editors for that matter, for whatever they didn't do, when in fact they are contributing, making positive improvements that add up in a big way eventually. It's awfully easy to criticize and to kill off any developing community and momentum. I do recall some real friendship, limited of course by the nature of the internet and all that, and hope we could continue that. But anyhow, keep up the good work. Cheers. --doncram 18:52, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

You're right, I don't have much time for Wikipedia anymore and I'm not involved with DYK. I'm lucky to have enough time to process and upload the images that I take.
Your work on the structure was very valuable and critically important! On the other side of the coin, it's painful when existing images get ignored by people who know the system well (this is not the first time that I had this conversation with someone). A lot of time is spent on images considering travel, editing, uploading on a slow connection, and classifying just to see them not get used and a bunch of unnecessary photo requests for images that exist. Sorry that I was too coarse! Royalbroil 00:26, 16 July 2012 (UTC)


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Issue at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places#use of upload-assisting pic in NRHP lists

Could you comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National_Register of Historic Places#use of upload-assisting pic in NRHP lists?

This is regarding a key part of the upcoming WLM-US photo contest. Smallbones (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hi-please check your e-mail and if you have time please response via e-mail. Thanks-RFD (talk) 15:43, 26 August 2012 (UTC)


Stop editing my stuff.

Please study Wikipedia:Non-free content so you can understand why we need to undo what you're doing. Royalbroil 03:12, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

2013 Sprint Cup page lock request

Could you put a lock on the 2013 Cup Series page, a unregistered contributor made alot of unverified (and ridiculous) edits to the Cup drivers lineup as well as the schedule. I'm fixing it right now, so I just wanted to make that request.Gaeaman787 (talk) 15:08, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. It already has a history of unverified and problematic editing so I semi protected it. I set a lengthy term like other years' articles needed. Royalbroil 04:28, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

OTRS question reply

  Done, Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 17:37, 13 September 2012 (UTC)


Hi Royalbroil-I sent you an e-mail. Please respond with e-mail. Thank you-RFD (talk) 13:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


Hi Royalbroil-I sent another e-mail in response. Please answer with e-mail-thanks-RFD (talk) 13:37, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
I responded to both of your emails (in a timely fashion). Royalbroil 00:30, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

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Juddville, Wisconsin

Hi-User Coal town guy asked me if I had any communities in mind for the people who run the GNIS database to do more research and I suggested Juddville, Wisconsin. You took photos of Juddville; however, GNIS just has Juddville as a cemetery and not as a community. I wanted to let you know I mentioned you at Coal town guy's talk page concerning the Juddville, Wisconsin article and the photos you took. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 18:11, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey friend

Hey, what's up?! I don't know why, but just for kicks I just logged back in (I'd forgotten my password, lol), and found a million automated messages on my talk page, and discovered that I don't have the tools anymore. I also saw something from you in the history from last December. And I thought, "I wonder if that dude Royalbroil still edits". Can't believe you're still on this site actively! Everything feels like forever ago.

Hope all is well in life buddy! :)

Much love,

JamieS93 21:40, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad to hear that you are doing good like I am! It's been a long time. I'm not very active anymore but I do get some things done, mainly adding photographs. I've been watching your talk page and I gave back a few answers. I wish that you would unsubscribe from some of those automated messages like Suggestbot. It's very good to hear from you! Royalbroil 02:31, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Photographer's Barnstar

Thanks for the Barnstar! I've actually kinda slacked off this year, on capturing all those historic Milwaukee sites. I was just thinking I need to get out there and clean up those last few places.

I see you've got a couple of these already, but I'll one more. I especially appreciate all the ones you've uploaded for Wisconsin.

  The Photographer's Barnstar
For the sheer number of photos you've uploaded. It must be thousands! -Freekee (talk) 18:21, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't actually get out of Milwaukee and Ozaukee much. Fortunately, there are a lot of places of interest in Milwaukee. Funny, I was just in Ashland in August. I was there after sunset, though, so no pics. Every time I go on a trip, when I'm in a new town I think, "oh, I should have checked if WP needs any pictures!" I did take a few pictures in Minocqua, though, and that article has none. I should fix some up and get them uploaded.
Note that there is also a National Register of Historic Places listings in Milwaukee County, Wisconsin. Unfortunately, that's one is under 90% complete if you count the delisted sites. I'll let you know if I improve it. We split the city out of the county, since the list was getting long. At the time, it took forever for my computer just to load the page. -Freekee (talk) 21:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Sounds like a good plan to just shoot, but I usually concentrate on more artistic shots, than illustrative. In August, my wife and I drove from Grafton to Thunder Bay, and back by a different route. It probably would have added another day onto our trip if I had shot every town along the way. ;-) I'll upload my shots of Minocqua, and you can decide how to arrange them along with yours. -Freekee (talk) 03:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Nice picture of the New Fane church. I notice that the horizon is slightly out of level. Obviously, you can't see the horizon, but the way you check is to look at the vertical lines. Find a vertical line in the center of the photo. It has to be in the middle, because vertical line converge due to perspective. If there aren't any in the middle, you have to kinda guess. In this case, there isn't much perspective distortion. You can see that the windows and the sides of the steeple are all going pretty much the same direction. I'd say this needs about one degree counterclockwise adjustment. Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with it. I just looked at the GI criteria, and I'd say it meets everything else. If you don't have the editing capability to do this, I'd be happy to do it for you.
No need to be defensive about illustrative versus artistic shots - that's what WP needs. Your photo, for example, shows both the church and its immediate environment very well. If I'd shot it, I would have used a different perspective to emphasize the fall colors, or maybe shot it from the cemetery side, or adjusted the colors to bring out the ivy on the walls. And then found it not a good candidate to even upload here. :-) -Freekee (talk) 16:36, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

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