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FYI re: a serial vandal

I have noticed that User 67.167.152.196 has been making some racist serial vandalisms, and I've asked Comcast via email to abuse@comcast.net whether that IP is dedicated to one member's account or used by several. If it belongs to one member, perhaps he should be blocked? It may be that Comcast IPs are for a whole area of members though. This user seems to ocasionally make some fairly ok edits, often to remove point of view or political correctness (such as to articles mentioning Rush Limbaugh), and then all of a sudden there is the random racist vandalism edits by him as seen in the "watermelon" and "Louis Farrakhan" article edits and others he or she has made. I ran across your name in an edit he made to the "Travels" article, which you reverted, and since you appear to be an admin, I thought I would just bring the over all edit history of this IP to your attention. I may not hear anything back from Comcast's abuse team regarding my query on whether the IP is just for one person, and I can't tell on first examination whether this is the work of one or more than one person. Just an fyi hoping you know more than I do about this sort of thing. Perhaps Comcast would be more likely to answer someone other than me. I think they have a reputation of being pretty rude about any sort of inquiry to their abuse team though from what I've heard from my own local provider's admin. Bebop 18:33, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

User:69.73.36.233

Yea, I think it is static, its knology.net broadband. I blocked them for an hour hoping they would cool off. Oh well, their mistake :) Makes me wonder if we should have a {{staticip}} tag. «»Who?¿?^meta 22:26, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

How?

As per Wikipedia policy, SlimVirgin was involving herself in Avoidant vandalism, under Wikipedia:Vandalism#Types_of_vandalism:"Removing {afd}, {copyvio} and other related tags in order to conceal or avoid entries to risk deletion."

Isn't that Wikipedia policy? I don't see how good faith can be used as an excuse for a zillion images to be tagged as fair use? It wasn't under the doubt of the images I'd included Slim's entry there, but her constant reverts (nearly crossing 3RR) to her version that removed copyvio tags I'd placed. It's made all the more dubious by her status as an admin! Pl. help Idleguy 11:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I always list them on that page as I've done in the past. But Slim virgin deleted my listing there too. The history page of Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2005 October 17 is proof that I added this and other images but she deleted them and covered her tracks. Also I understand fair use but if you look carefully at her uploaded images many are copyrighted images and multiple ones on the same subject at that! Shouldn't a couple of images be enough to do the job? I think I'll need some real mediation on this "fair use" abuse by this admin. If you pl. take the time to go through her images you'll see she's claiming fair use not only for this image for many others as well. I can accept a couple as fair use given the circumstance, but for the 100 others? and when nearly a dozen photos are on the same subject? Isn't that misusing the fair use spirit?

How can this issue be discussed openly when she blocks it from being listed anywhere? Her status as admin makes this a case all the more formidable for her, but we can't forget the truth. She is just abusing the fair use loophole to put up photos of insignficant people's mugshots. Idleguy 17:43, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, Quadell, I really appreciate your help. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 18:33, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Just doin' my job, ma'am. – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 00:27, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Impersonator!

Heya Quadell, you got an imposter, Quadel (talk · contribs)! I've blocked it. Commiserations, Talrias (t | e | c) 18:36, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, I get a lot of those. He'll probably be back. *sigh* Thanks for helping keep Wikipedia clean, though. – Quadell ^(talk) 18:39, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

blank pages at Hotlist

I have merged some of the pages at Hotlist, leaving some pages blank and hopefully making the template and project page easier to read as well as updating the counts. Can you delete those pages are empty (A5-9 B3-6, D4-7, S13-15) --Reflex Reaction 20:18, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

I have spent the last hour looking over changes User:Hemanshu has done to the Hotlists and I am concerned that he has deleted too many invalid blue links (differences in coverage, i.e. Yaka) while also deleting many redlinks for which content has not been created. They have not been moved to Suggestions for non inclusion. I have not looked over all his deletions, but a quick sampling showed that he has removed redlinks covered by Britannica and Encarta (See [1] and [2], note that Academy of Geneva [3], Acatalasia [4], Acarigua [5], Acmeist Movement [6] are listed but haven't been created).

This would be huge pain because it would invalidate the work that I did yesterday and any contributions after Hemanshu deletions. I know that he has also put alot of work into this but it is incorrect work. Because I'm not an admin and he is, I would appreciate any support that you can offer. --Reflex Reaction 15:58, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

I'm looking through the log, but it looks like Hemanshu may have moved listings from, for example, Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Hot/D3 to Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/Hot/D3/Dia-Dif. That would explain why they appear deleted. I think that may explain the confusion. – Quadell ^(talk) 16:08, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Yes, but is a wholesale deletion of over 100 entries, including some topics with comments for future article creation ("vert realated to Samkhya", "painter 1906-1951").

- Sorry about that, looks like you are right- but why move the content to a subpage only he knows about - it's not linked on the page itself. --Reflex Reaction 16:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Here

For dedicated work on Wikipedia. Molotov (talk)
21:15, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Request for Adminstrator

Quadell, I would appreciate any input you have for my Request for Administrator. Thanks so much --Reflex Reaction 21:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Henry the Navigator

An article that you've edited before (Henry the Navigator) is nominated for Biography Collaboration of the Week. If you want go there and vote. Thanks. Gameiro 20:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Test

Was just checking... :-) Ta bu shi da yu 01:16, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Bounty for ATLAS experiment

I believe the article on ATLAS experiment, which just became featured today, might count towards "articles using only free images"—I think they're all licensed under GFDL (certainly the ones I took are). So you can add that to the list. -- SCZenz 01:08, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Bounty

Thanks for leaving me a note about the bounty board; I wasn't aware of it. I'm intrigued by Pharos's challenge, but I'm wondering what counts as a biography. In the case of Mário de Andrade, which made FA today, there's one book of criticism in English (and a lot of journal articles, of course) but no standard biography. This is everything available in English, from the Library of Congress. Even if Mário doesn't count, I strongly suspect I could come up with something that does. Interesting project. Chick Bowen 01:30, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Sounds like a fantastic idea. I'll participate. Neutrality^talk 02:58, 30 October 2005 (UTC)

Iraqi Insurgency

Suggest that if it happens again you revert back and I'll protect the page. Then we ask a developer to find out what IP addresses to start blocking... or start automatically blocking every account that is used to violate WP:POINT and the 3RR. Also suggest (if you haven't already) that you make a note on WP:AN or WP:AN/I. 100 active admins fighting vandalism from one determined POV pusher vs that POV pusher = one disappointed POV-pusher. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:06, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Blocked, 3RR

You have been blocked for 24 hours for 3RR violations on Iraqi insurgency. Please leave any comments here; I'm watching this page. Ral315 (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Yep, upon review it looks like I did. What an embarrassing accident - I'm quite chagrinned. Could you do me a favor and block me intil 24 hours from the 4th reversion, rather than 24 from the time of the block? (I'd like to get back to the Missing Encyclopedic Articles work I was doing as soon as possible.) Thanks, – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 19:45, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Pssst. . . Ral315. . . Are you watching this page? – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 21:51, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

• Please, also not his sockpupeets User:Priscilla Molesworth and User:Gwyneth Molesworth abakharev 03:54, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I am, actually...I was at work. I'm unblocking you and Reddi, since it's clear that it's beyond 3RR now. I also apologize for not protecting the page so his sockpuppets couldn't do more damage; I meant to do so but had to leave unexpectedly. By the way, I appreciate your reaction to the block originally...I wish most people I block would do the same :) Ral315 (talk) 05:52, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for you vote on my RFA

Quadell, thank you very much for supporting my adminship, I just got a message few minutes ago that I'm now an admin. I really appreciate your comments and recognition of the work that I have done including noting where I have made major contributions. I'm sure your comments and vote made a difference. --Reflex Reaction 19:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks also for cleaning up after me in the Hotlist. I thought I had removed the N5 page, but it looks not. Thanks again for your vote. --Reflex Reaction 18:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Kent State shootings

I saw you had posted a bounty on the Kent State shootings article, and I thought I'd take a look at what sort of work it needs, since I used to have quite an interest in the subject. (I wrote the Mary Ann Vecchio article, about the subject of the in/famous photograph - and can still name the 4 casualties of the shooting by memory, yay for useless details!). I left some notes there, that I'd appreciate a response to, and hopefully some more ideas of what direction you'd like to still see the article head. Hopefully over the next day or two I'll actually clean out the Artistic References section and make it a mite more professional looking. Anyhow, ciao Sherurcij 05:21, 30 October 2005 (UTC) (the guy from the Mohand al-Shehri debate earlier)

Articles with free images

I got your message - and the Bounty Board is an interesting idea! My article on Felice Beato has already reached Featured Article status - so would it still work in your scheme? Pinkville 20:03, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

Bounty on RSOF

Thanks for putting the bounty on improving Religious Society of Friends. It has been my desire to see it become a feature article. It think it is pretty close. Any suggestions? I will do whatever I can to make it so? Logophile 06:40, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thanks! It's surprisingly addictive, linking up these biography titles to the articles we already have - I get the pleasure of feeling like I've made vast amounts of progress, without ever having to write anything more mentally taxing than the odd disambiguation page... :-) Shimgray | talk | 01:56, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey thanks for that, digital metalwork just what I always wanted. MeltBanana 02:03, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Quadell, if you have a chance would you mind taking a look at this: WP:AN/3RR#User:FuelWagon. Thanks. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:16, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I know, it's beyond ridiculous at this point. Thanks for taking a look. Jayjg ^(talk) 03:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your supportive comments. By the way, I don't know if you vote on RfAs, but if you do, there's an extremely interesting one at WP:RFA#Ramallite. Jayjg ^(talk) 19:00, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Re: Iraqi insurgency

Yarg! Thanks for the revert. I was doing bot-assisted disambiguation and page move work; clearing up some of the WP:RM backlog, and I didn't think. Rob Church ^Talk 20:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

SlimVirgin

You have stated that " there's nothing wrong with what SlimVirgin is doing." while she clearly threaten to block someone with who she was in conflict with (me). Such block is against Wikipedia policy. This means that you have made an edit that you should know is misleading. If this was by mistake please correct it on the relevent talk page. Thank You. Zeq 21:14, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

The threat to block is at the bottom of this edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zeq#RfA

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AZeq&diff=27332917&oldid=27332393

This is in violation of this policy:

Wikipedia:Blocking_policy#When_blocking_may_not_be_used

signed Zeq 21:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

You should read about wieselspeak. "likely to be blocked" is a threat that was done in the middle of dispute. The point youare missing is that was not "disruptive" i.e. I did not change other people comments or made misleading edits. I am a budhist and as such I would never do such a thing. That would be "wrong speech" Zeq 21:38, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Indeed

Once again, I have reason to thank you. And yes, fudge and hot baths sound like a good alternative to wikiconflict. (But how do you know I'm a nice girl? ;-) ) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 21:55, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Pri Wiktionary

Saluto s-ro Quadell, me vidis ke vu parolas Ido ed anke esas administranto / netigisto/netigero hike. Quale vu pensas pri la frontispico di Wiktionary? Nia Wikivortaro esabas plu kam 10,000 en mayo e nun esas la quaresma granda, ma mem ke ni ne aparas en la frontispico on ne povas trovar Ido en la sercho-areo sinistre. Me skribis multafoye pri to en altra loki ma til nun obtenis nula respondo.

Hi - I noticed that you have Ido on your page, but I'll write in English as well: I was wondering what you thought of smaller wiktionaries than Ido (the 4th-largest) appearing on the search bar on the front but not us. We've had over 10,000 since May and now over 25,000, and even thought I've written a number of times on the subject I have yet to receive a reply. Is there any specific policy regarding that or are the languages on the search bar just selected at random? Regards, Mithridates 00:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Bounties

Hi Quadell -- I am a little concerned about your "bounty" proposal (I applaud you for being bold, of course.) Can we perhaps discuss it at the project talk page here [7]? And can I also ask you to perhaps not add the "bounty" template to articles for the time being? This is rather controversial for me. Thank you -- yours, Sdedeo 10:57, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Selfsuck.jpg

You poped off the orphaned notice, but the image actually *is* orphaned. It is not the image linked from autofellatio and has not been for a long time. A more free image, Image:Autofellatio_2.jpg is used now. I've stuck the orphan tag back on. If you run across any that are not orphaned please throw on the notorphan|where template. No need to hunt for them, however, because as soon as the tagging run is complete I'll go mark as non-orphans any images that are not. --Gmaxwell 05:46, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks. – Quadell ^{(talk) (bounties)} 12:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

Bounty board

Hi. We've had some interesting discussion about the Bounty Board page. I hope I'm not reading too far between the lines, but it sounds like your major concern is that my somewhat riskier/more controversial interests will damage the comparatively new Bounty Board by association.

I really believe that there's a lot of room for a wide variety of bounties on Wikipedia, and that Wikipedia:Bounty Board is the best place to organize them. But I understand that some people will probably object to my scheme, and I don't have the time or stamina right now for a protracted fight. And your bounties are a good idea, regardless of whether Wikipedia adopts my somewhat riskier/more expansive vision; I want to see them succeed. So, I'll offer a compromise:

• I'll leave the personal-pay article bounties and all development bounties off of the page until at least January 1, to give the system some time to become established.
• We can use clearly delineated sections of the Wikipedia:Bounty Board page for different types of bounties; this should help keep criticism of the other types of bounties from affecting the current types. Once the page becomes too large, we can probably break different types of bounties onto different subpages.
• Development bounties can be put on a separate page from the beginning, with perhaps a link from Wikipedia:Bounty Board. I realize that those are going to be the most controversial.

I still do think that the Bounty Board page is the best way to allow people to offer money for services, and that people are going to be interested in a lot of different types of bounties besides the currently-existing one. But I don't want to break the system before it has a chance to get started. Does this sound like a reasonable solution? -- Creidieki 02:48, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Fair use for Image:Protest.jpg

First of all, I'm glad to see Image:Protest.jpg go back up somewhere on Wikipedia. I was sad to remove it from Protest, but as a non-GFDL image, it was the fall guy in response to a criticism that all the photos were "of young, white, english speaking folks protesting on international issues." So I swapped it out with a photo from the Million Worker March, showing a protest where a significant amount of the participants are non-white, and demonstrating on a domestic issue.

Anyways, though, don't forget to add a fair-use rationale to the article as a remark tag, and on the image page. I'd hate to see this somewhat-shocking image ultimately get deleted. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:13, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Ramallite adminship

Thanks for the note - I fully expected it to be from a user complaining about my decision, so it was great to see! Warofdreams talk 18:00, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar for you!

Quadell, for your continued hard work at wikipedia, I award you this barnstar. I doesn't seem right that I'm awarding you with this since you have been around so much longer, but be bold right? --Reflex Reaction (talk)• 22:54, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

I Reflex Reaction, award this barnstar to Quadell for your excellent work at WP:MEA, finding and use of pictures, and general all around niceness!

Thank you

I just wanted to thank you for your support of my RfA which finally passed! I also appreciate your responses to some of the goings-on during the debate and your standing up to some on my behalf. Thanks much! Ramallite ^(talk) 04:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Emergency department

I wonder if you could consider supporting this article at Wikipedia:Article Improvement Drive. Its an important place, where we all go by ambulance if we are very ill, and, I think, worthy of a comprehensive article.--File Éireann 20:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Magic

" ... it might somehow magically blossom into a featured article without me having to work at it." LOL!! You know, it's funny, Quadell, but I was about to look around for someone else who might do that instead of me. ;-D

I agree wholeheartedly. I wince every time I see that page, but I'm somewhat daunted by the prospect of trying to improve it. I therefore started another page, Sandstorm report, which was the name of the Price Waterhouse report making the initial fraud allegations and revealing details of the terrorist accounts held in London. I plan to try to get hold of a copy of the report (I don't know whether it's online; I believe it's public domain in the U.S. and a big secret in the UK), and write about what it said, as well as the reponse to its submission to the Bank of England, and the leaking of parts of it to the British press. That feels more manageable to me than trying to tackle the whole BCCI thing. If I ever do get round to doing this (note the "if"), then perhaps we could decide whether it's better as a standalone page, or whether it would be better merged back into BCCI. Does that sound like a plan? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:23, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

I've left a barnstar on your user page, Quadell, but feel free to move it (and the commentary) anywhere you want. And thank you again for all your help and encouragement. Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 02:48, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Ma'ariv

Thanks for the note. I looked at the disambig page, and it seems reasonable for now. There's not a lot in the Jewish services article about the Ma'ariv service, and I'm not sure the material about it would ever be long enough to warrant its own article. If the stuff about the Ma'ariv service ever gets too big for the Jewish prayer service article, it can be moved into its own article at that point. Regarding jguk, we are very different; jguk is the editor who really likes cricket and really dislikes BCE/CE notation. Jayjg ^(talk) 17:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

It was less confusing when he used his previous userid. Jayjg ^(talk) 18:09, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Owen Morgan Edwards

Thanks - nice to know it's appreciated. I'll try to do a bit on some of his contemporaries in a while. Rhion 08:43, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

Hotlist

Do you know what year of Encarta was used for the hotlist, and also how both the Encarta and Britannica 2004 lists were acquired? Would you happen to have these original lists, so that I could get their new ones and see what articles they've added? — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-13 14:19

1851 Encyclopedia Americana

Since our earliest source of what is considered "encyclopedic" is currently 1911EB, my next project will be to compile a missing articles list using the indexes of the 1851 Encyclopedia Americana. This site (to which you should have access) provides the images and a really poor OCR of the pages. I have a program called Abbyy Finereader which is supposed to be the best OCR software out there, and indeed it only seems to make 5-10 typos per page. There are 13 volumes, and I have completed the first one. So, if you are interested, I would like someone to help me proofread these OCR'd pages against the source images, in order to produce a nearly-typo-free list of articles, all of which is part of my plan to make Wikipedia less present-centric. Let me know and I can send you a volume to work on. It should only take about an hour if you're working nonstop. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-14 01:56

• Actually, it appears that they are missing volume 4 of the set. We can still stick with that, since this encyclopedia is relatively small and won't take as long. However, we could instead move on to a more ambitious project, involving going through the ~1400 pages of Cyclopaedia, or Universal Dictionary of Arts and Sciences, and typing out the titles for each entry. We could get it done in a month at a rate of about 25 pages a day, which would mean about half an hour a day of work. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-14 02:48

Islam and Slavery

Is: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Islam and Slavery Would you care to vote? Thx.--The Brain 10:48, 14 November 2005 (UTC)

Historic Photo Rationale

How did you get the template from like this: {{HistoricPhotoRationale}} - where you added it to Image:18-inside-malvo.jpg? Adnghiem501 02:31, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Numbers for hotlist

Quadell,

You may want to double check your numbers for the hotlist. I've changed the number for H several times to the correct number (~2700) only to have it change back. Five pages of 500 + one page 200 = 2700, not 2200. BTW you kept beating me to the punch on the M list. I compiled the pages with excess of 500 with the intent to prune, but you where there before me. I will be working on the hotlist occasionally but will be focused on new lists for the time being. Your hard work is really appreciated. Reflex Reaction 16:11, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

Matthew Fox

Would you object if I changed the categorization of Matthew Fox from "Roman Catholic priest" to "Former Catholics", a category I believe should exist and which I plan to create? WikiSceptic 13:10, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Image:Gustavstresemann.jpg

You tagged Image:Gustavstresemann.jpg as PD-Germany in February. Recently, it's been tagged as {{no source}}. Perhaps you want to defend the PD claim? Cheers, dbenbenn | talk 14:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Copyrights...

Saw you changing your list (on Germany). You also might want to change the Canada entry, see {{PD-Canada}}. BTW, what do you think about Image:Albert Einstein by Yousuf Karsh.jpg? Lupo 15:04, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

I didn't find it... the Library and Archives Canada told me so when I asked why the copyright on the Einstein image had "expired". On Einstein: also see User talk:Michael Snow (who didn't reply, but all the links to discussions on the Commons are there). Lupo 15:21, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

If you're interested, see User:Lupo/Public domain. I'd appreciate any comments and/or help you can give. Its talk page may be the place for the "wider discussion" on the Karsh images... Lupo 09:49, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia

I'm currently compiling a new Hotlist, which includes Yale's unpublished Milton Encyclopedia, the Encylopedia Americana, and the Oxford World Encyclopedia. I hear that you are good with perl, and I would also like to include the Grolier Multimedia Encyclopedia, except their index is much harder to get. One way to do it is to to go through all the URLs of the form http://gme-ada.grolier.com/cgi-bin/article?assetid=0000040-0 , doing all the 7 digit IDs from 0000040 to about 0350000. The trailing -0 means nothing but is necessary for the URL to work. If you could write a script that would go through all these URLs, copying the pages' contents and appending them to a file, I could then work with that content to extract the index (simply by grabbing all the lines that occur after the line that starts with "Help". If you need a login for Grolier, try http://www.bugmenot.com — BRIAN0918 • 2005-11-16 17:13

RfC on bounty board?

Have you considered getting an RfC on the bounty board to gauge the community's opinion on whether editors should be paid? I'm thinking of starting one, as it is a gray area. Borisblue 18:18, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Bounty Board response

Quadell,

I was disappointed to not receive a response to my earlier Talk page message to you regarding the bounty board. I still think that the Wikipedia:Bounty Board page is at a very general pagename, and should serve to organize all of the bounties that people want to offer. I've added a few editor-pay bounties, but I've placed them on a separate section of the page. If you think that the different types of bounties should be placed on separate pages, you're welcome to break them off, but with the current number of bounties that seems silly to me. I'll be happy to talk with you further about all of this.

-- Creidieki 18:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikivacation

Good luck with the job search, Quadell, and I hope you find your way back here very soon. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 00:10, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Same here, good luck with the job search. Jayjg ^(talk) 20:46, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

• Hope you find a new job soon! When you have time again for the Wikipedia, check out Wikipedia:Public domain: it's live now. Lupo 09:18, 22 November 2005 (UTC)