Marianna251

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Dennis Nilsen

Nilsen was of course Scottish by birth, but his crimes were committed in London. Therefore, wouldn't a description of British be more appropriate? Many articles on offenders of this nature in America describe the offender as American rather than Texan etc.Kieronoldham (talk) 23:40, 21 December 2019 (UTC)

@Kieronoldham: Thanks for the message! There is a distinct difference between the parts of the United Kingdom and states in the USA, however. Describing a Texan as an American has a better analogy with describing a Glaswegian (someone from Glasgow) as Scottish. If you call a Texan an American, you're not likely to get thumped in the face the way that you might if you told the wrong Scottish person that they're British.

UK nationalities are very complicated even to someone born and raised in them, like I was. The key difference is to remember that England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland were all independent countries and have only relatively recently formed a union. Texas was never its own country; Scotland was, up until only a few hundred years ago. When it comes to people from the UK, it's best to reflect either the way they describe themselves or the way the sources describe them. The sources on Nilsen almost all describe him as Scottish. Hope that helps. Marianna251TALK 20:33, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Ooh, just found the Wiki page WP:UKNATIONALS - it gives an overview of just how complicated UK nationality is and has been historically. See also the UK government's list of ethnic categories. Marianna251TALK 20:40, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Marianna251. Argh. Was sat on the fence and could see merit in either description being the better one. I know most of the sources describe him as Scottish (I largely populated the article). Off-topic to a degree, but I have Scottish in-laws and have visited Scotland frequently in my lifetime. For the most part, they have a better sense of nationalism than most English people. I learned quickly not to talk loudly on buses and trains due to the glares I sometimes received - especially at Inverkeithing .--Kieronoldham (talk) 21:52, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Excuse me I am beginning to get extremely frustrated at you just thinking it’s ok to constantly throw your comments about on my talk page and I think you should stop like, now? Or I will be reporting you. That’s your only warning. Got it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamdaniel981 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@Liamdaniel981: If you continue to do a bad job of editing, you'll get warned. Issuing nonsense threats to fellow editors will get you blocked. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I don’t think anyone asked for your opinion. Fancy minding you own business? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamdaniel981 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

(by talk reader) I never identified myself! I'm a talk page stalker; I deal with editors like you when I'm bored. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:40, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

@Liamdaniel981: Three things: first, when leaving a comment on another user's talk page, please make a new section at the bottom of the talk page. I had trouble finding your comment because it was added into an old discussion. I've now moved this thread to a new section. Second, please sign your talk page comments with ~~~~. Third, you made a personal attack on an editor (who happened to be me) in this edit, calling me "thick" and a "spacker". Personal attacks are not tolerated on Wikipedia. I left a relatively mild warning on your talk page because the edit is fairly old now (I didn't notice it sooner because I'm only semi-active), but if you had attacked another editor, they might have reported you immediately.

I have also corrected a mistake you re-inserted on Ian Blackford, again, but in the spirit of compromise I've left your unsourced change in. I've tagged it with "citation needed". Please be aware that any editor can come along and remove unsourced claims on the grounds that they are not verifiable.

I am far from the first or only person to leave messages on your talk page. Please start paying attention. Sources are not optional, and if you keep making unsourced changes, other editors - myself included but by no means only - will keep reverting them. If you're frustrated with that, I suggest that you read the messages you've been given, read the linked policies, and try to understand why there's a problem so that you can avoid similar problems in future. Attacking other editors will not change anything, but is much more likely to get you blocked than me leaving legitimate warnings on your talk page. Marianna251TALK 07:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

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