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Its good to have someone else knowledgeable and contributing about masters athletics, particularly from across the pond. Some things to learn about wikipedia (you are already picking up on these), be prepared to defend your work. Learn the wikipedia standards and techniques, learn the language contained within to show how your work fits under those guidelines. Its the kind of language I used in the defense we will have to start building if the masters athletics clauses are going to be attacked. Use the talk and backchannels when necessary. The best way to defend your work is to use sources. The more scrutiny your articles come under, the better your sourcing needs to be. The extreme example I have was Bruce Jenner, an athlete I used to compete against. When I wrote in the initial little article about a retired athlete who turned his celebrity into a being TV star (despite his acting ability), it was not that complex. Even though he was already appearing on the Kardashian's TV show and was famous, I was able to write what I knew about the inside story of his athletic history and supplement the confirmation with some simple google with little challenge. As he began to transition into Caitlin, the interest in the article exploded. OK, more than 10 million people read the article, but on the backside of wikipedia, every word in every section was being nit-picked. As of today, I still need to revisit the article and clean up the crap other people have mis-spoken in their zeal. But my point was, in order to defend the content, I had to dig deep into sources. By that point in time, everything was new, contemporary and rewritten, useless social media dominated results, obliterating google's usefulness in delivering accurate historical information. So I had to learn how to filter out the junk from the results, word filters, time filters, using better search terms, quotation marks to get specific phrases, use names from the past. You see a ton of sources in that article out of necessity to fend off the constant attacks. When you get to Masters athletics, you will get fewer attacks and most attacks come from people who don't have a clue what they are talking about. Be prepared to defend, be prepared to fight. I hate to use an American warlike analogy but hit them back with guns blazing. If an article is attacked, load it up with sources that support your claims. Obviously that means you should know what you are talking about and when a point is questioned, find someone who has published a similar point. When it gets detailed, there is a fine line between copyright violation (where you cannot use other people's words directly) and that match in your rewrite of the same concept. Learn your good sources and how to use them. Some good sources I have come from masterstrack.com, mastershistory.org, mastersathletics.net But don't limit yourself to a few sources, almost every successful athlete has local coverage of their rise to success and their previous successes. Cross referencing to historical Open division accomplishments certainly backs many masters articles. This is how you play the game in the wiki world. Maybe you will never get 10 million readers but you have save information for posterity and further development. I've collected a lot of information that has cluttered my brain. I feel comfortable now that I have successfully downloaded a lot of that to wikipedia, where other people can use it for the greater good. Trackinfo (talk) 18:39, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Thanks, good to have some words to help me along my way. I am currently trying to improve all the articles I have written to avoid attacks and criticism so I'll just keep on working! JDWFC (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Nice article but it lacked categories. I added the categories: Hong Kong at the Paralympics; 1984 in Hong Kong sport; and Nations at the 1984 Summer Paralympics. Could you categorise your other articles please? I find HotCat makes the job easier. Once you've resolved that, and created a few more articles without issue you should be a shoo-in at WP:RFP/A which would reduce the burden at WP:NPP. Regards, for (;;) (talk) 11:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the help, I will recap over my articles ASAP. JDWFC (talk) 11:24, 14 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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Let me start by saying I despise tags. I wrote a section on my user page about them and how I feel they deface the look of the page they are placed on by their prominence and they hurt the credibility of wikipedia because the average reader does not know what they are talking about and simply concludes there is something wrong with the information we report. My primary complaint at the time was based around the tagging for bare url formatting of sources, something I don't think is a problem in the first place. Other users think our source layout needs to be the much more complex format. That is a different argument. In the case of AthAbbr, a series of articles I started a few years ago, I am in agreement that something needs to be done. However I still dislike the tag as it just calls for someone else to do the work. My goal is to have a template collapsable generic description of Athletics abbreviations that we can place on all articles using such abbreviations. I tried to build one and failed miserably with the technical formatting. I asked for help and receiving none, I believe it was deleted or is lost, long forgotten, deep in history. Once created, we could drop this onto all articles you are tagging (in the same number of keystrokes) and we would be done with it. It would be particularly useful if we could create it before the Olympics or even sooner because there will be a lot of traffic on very soon to be created articles. So in short, our effort would be better to create a standardized, collapsed Athletics Abbreviations info box like a map "legend" or possibly to put a simple wikilink to the Athletics abbreviations article on each page, rather than to tag and subsequently have someone do a lot of individual legwork to fix one article at a time. Trackinfo (talk) 17:37, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

I understand what you're saying about tags, and I do think they are the height of laziness, but in this case I did intend myself to go through and replace everything myself, I just wanted a list of pages to clear and work towards and so this was my first few steps towards that. I do not like tags but in this case I felt like it was a necessary evil to get what I wanted to do done. JDWFC (talk) 20:48, 16 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Have at it. Trackinfo (talk) 15:17, 21 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

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