User talk:Innisfree987/Archive 5

2020

November

November

Thank you for a good and timely review for Children's Crusade! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

What do you think of freeing this page from old bot messages? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, thank you so much for the kind words, and the nudge. Had been meaning too, is a bit of a hassle on mobile but I’ll stop stalling! Innisfree987 (talk) 16:43, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

And what a truly beautiful photograph. You have no idea how much I needed to see that today! Gratefully, Innisfree987 (talk) 16:45, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

thank you, - look further for bright memories --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:19, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

I still have yesterday's good top story to offer, - and a little below is my vision for 2020. - Did you know the ultimate guide to arbitration? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:44, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh it looks so good Gerda Arendt! And so many pieces of interest and beauty! Always learning—thank you. Innisfree987 (talk) 22:10, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Today's DYK: to be sung "happily" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, thank you! I sent happy wishes right back to you! Innisfree987 (talk) 23:14, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK nomination of First Lady Michelle Obama (painting)

Hello! Your submission of First Lady Michelle Obama (painting) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! David Eppstein (talk) 07:54, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Michelle Smith (fashion)

On 18 November 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Michelle Smith (fashion), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the unveiling of Michelle Obama’s official portrait surprised Michelle Smith with the news that a gown from her collection had been chosen for the sitting? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Michelle Smith (fashion). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Michelle Smith (fashion)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:03, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

GA review of Priscilla Jana

Hello, an editor has 5x expanded this article which you recently created and there is now a GA review open at Talk:Priscilla Jana/GA1. I ballsed up the ping so I thought I'd drop you a line here in case you want to be involved. Mujinga (talk) 15:14, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Image at Priscilla Jana

Hi there. I am following up here to see if you can help me with the fair use path for getting an alternate image. Given that my email on Wikipedia is the same one that I use for my off-Wiki activities, I dont think I might be able to send an email to SAHO website. Greatly appreciate all assistance. Ktin (talk) 23:38, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, sure thing and I was just about to leave you a note thanking you for all your work on a difficult subject. The encyclopedia is much better for it.
So one sticky bit is for fair use we need to get this image removed first—can’t make a fair use claim if there’s a legitimately licensed image available. I tried to look for another one just now, including looking at videos because if a video is CC licensed, we could use a screen grab. No luck tho. So the best way to proceed, if you agree, is I’ll nominate this for deletion, because I do believe we don’t have the right permissions, and then we’ll pick another image to upload at low-res just to identify her, which are the fair use criteria. How does that sound/does it all make sense? I know image rights can be confusing. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

Just as an FYI, you might consider making a dedicated email for your Wikipedia account (it’s free with Gmail or similar providers) because I see you have email enabled on your userpage. If anyone writes you that way, it will go to your personal email and if you reply, it will show the other user your address. So if you have privacy concerns, a dedicated email is a good idea. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:02, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, Thanks for this one. I understand and makes sense. I am somewhat confused re: next steps on this one. Tagging KittenKlub who had helped with the original image that we had spotted at SAHO.

KittenKlub, for some additional context we were working that article for WP:GA and are brainstorming on what's the best approach for the image.Some more details can be seen here Talk:Priscilla_Jana. Ktin (talk) 01:24, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this caught my eye because I am trying to sort out a similar case where a collection is CC-licensed but the photographer appears unknown and therefore cannot have assented to the license. The SAHO themselves say, “Please note that these externally created materials on the site are protected by South African copyright law and may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, displayed, or otherwise published in any format, without the prior written permission of the copyright owner. We always try to supply owner details and obtain permission from these owners, but in some cases we have not been able to trace some rights owners.” Jana appears to be such a case as her page indicates no information on the photographer. So I’m afraid for WP purposes we don’t have the necessary permissions for this one. Does that sound right to you KittenKlub? But not all is lost: we could try for a fair use claim on this or another image of Jana instead, since she is deceased. Innisfree987 (talk) 01:40, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, Thanks much. @KittenKlub: let know of your thoughts. I will definitely defer to you both on this one. Thanks much folks. I think the article is shaping well. Just need the image :) Ktin (talk) 05:38, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Innisfree987: Lets get this done. I will remove the current image reference from the article and then you can go ahead with the next steps. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 23:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, great. I’ll start the deletion process at the Commons and if you want to look around for images of Jana you like—essentially any could be fair use but one from the SA gov would be ideal as it might already be free. Or we could use this one for the same reason. Innisfree987 (talk) 23:34, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, found two images here and here. Alternately, we can go with the SAH one (the current one) Ktin (talk) 23:41, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, so fast! Thanks! There’s also this one, which I think might be free because SABC News is government-owned, but also if you don’t feel good about any, we could go with a different image altogether—it should be ok with “minimal” usage (using it just once on one entry to identify her). What’s your preference? I think the one in yellow may be actually too low-res (sad, it’s a nice pic), but I’m open to all the others! Innisfree987 (talk) 00:06, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, Thanks so much. My preference, in order, is the DIRCO one (red), followed by SABC (grayscale), followed by the yellow one. Agree on the low res. Feel free to pic any that stands the best chance of acceptance. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 00:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, the red shouldn’t be a problem! I’ll upload it. Just to make sure you’re aware, any image we do this way can only be used in the entry, not for the DYK, because of restrictions on “fair use”. Innisfree987 (talk) 00:45, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, makes sense. The point being it can exist on the article, but, can not go as a thumbnail onto the homepage, correct? Ktin (talk) 00:47, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, exactly. And, it’s all ready. If you don’t mind, maybe have a look through the explanation I gave (“Media data and Non-free use rationale”) and then you’ll be all set the next time you need an image! Innisfree987 (talk) 01:03, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, Thanks so much. Had a look. Makes sense. I will go ahead and use it in the article. Let me know if we should pause for some reason. Ktin (talk) 01:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, all set for my part! As you can tell, copyright is a fairly complex matter so there’s always a small chance someone reviewing the file might disagree with my assessment, but we can cross that bridge if we come to it. For now it’s all good. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 01:37, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, sounds like a plan. Thanks. Will be good to get all of this completed before the week starts tomorrow. Ktin (talk) 01:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, just for interest’s sake: a bit of sleuthing rewarded! Here’s the original image and indeed, not CC licensed. Fantastic picture though. Innisfree987 (talk) 04:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, ah! But, definitely a very powerful image! I feel good about the way the article has shaped up. With the week starting tomorrow, I know cycles will be in short supply, but, we should hopefully be able to get this past the line this week. Ktin (talk) 04:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

GA nomination of Priscilla Jana

Just realized that the original nomination meant that Mujinga's post only landed on my talk page. I want to take this moment to place on record your vital contributions toward getting Priscilla Jana to WP:GA.

This user helped promote Priscilla Jana to good article status.

Thanks much, and, I look forward to many more collaborations!Ktin (talk) 00:18, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, thank you so much—this gesture means a lot to me! I definitely consider my role secondary to the lion’s share of the work you did but I’m very very happy to have been able to contribute! Indeed, to many future collaborations! Innisfree987 (talk) 01:03, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for First Lady Michelle Obama (painting)

On 7 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article First Lady Michelle Obama (painting), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in painting First Lady Michelle Obama, Amy Sherald was inspired by the way the quilters of Gee's Bend make clothing and fabric scraps into geometric works of art? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/First Lady Michelle Obama (painting). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, First Lady Michelle Obama (painting)), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Sarah Wilkerson Freeman

On 9 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sarah Wilkerson Freeman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that American historian Sarah Wilkerson Freeman curated a photo exhibit depicting the fluidity of race, gender, and sexuality in New Orleans during the McCarthy era? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sarah Wilkerson Freeman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sarah Wilkerson Freeman), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Faith Smith

Please see note on your DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 15:46, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted

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DYK nomination of Claudia Chamorro Barrios

Hello! Your submission of Claudia Chamorro Barrios at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 22:46, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Sean Cole

On 14 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sean Cole, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that This American Life producer and Boston native Sean Cole spoke with an affected British accent from age 14 to 16? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sean Cole. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sean Cole), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

—valereee (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Briallen Hopper

On 17 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Briallen Hopper, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that essayist Briallen Hopper got her start writing sermons? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Briallen Hopper. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Briallen Hopper), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des​ 00:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

December

Precious

Four years!

- 250 years Beethoven, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, thank you for this ever thoughtful gesture, which makes me feel so welcomed here—and for the 250 years of Beethoven note! What a fascinating trove you put together! Grateful. Innisfree987 (talk) 08:04, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Claudia Chamorro Barrios

On 19 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Claudia Chamorro Barrios, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Claudia Chamorro Barrios married on the birthday of her assassinated father? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claudia Chamorro Barrios. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Claudia Chamorro Barrios), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Black Futures

On 20 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Black Futures, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Black Futures, a 544-page collection of Black art and writing, was originally going to be a zine? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Black Futures. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Black Futures), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:03, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Kimberly Ritchie

Thanks for that correction. I searched under her full name, rather than Kim B. Ritchie. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 16:46, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Oh thanks for the note Onel5969, preciate it. And I got lucky on that one myself—only found it while trying to fix a deadlink on the page. Glad we found it eventually! Innisfree987 (talk) 16:56, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Innisfree987, absolutely. And thanks for removing the copyvio tag, as you were absolutely correct that it was simply the list of publications. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 17:03, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Agitu Ideo Gudeta YouTube photo

Hi Innisfree987, could you help with a screengrab from [1]? The woman in the middle is Agitu Ideo Gudeta. This was the only public domain/creative commons source I could find. TJMSmith (talk) 17:47, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

TJMSmith, with pleasure! I see they just have the two wide angles so it will be a photo of her among others but I think it should definitely add something to the entry until a real photo can be acquired. Will update you when I have something I like (or short of that, ha, something that seems like the best that can be done with the available material!) Innisfree987 (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! TJMSmith (talk) 18:08, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

I didn't realize someone else was working on it User_talk:Yoninah#Possible_DYK:_Agitu_Ideo_Gudeta. I had posted on Yoninah's page to work on a DYK for the article. I apologize if I created double work. TJMSmith (talk) 19:00, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

TJMSmith, no problem and actually I apologize, I went straight to the video before catching the part of the entry about her recent death—how awful, I’m sorry the tone of my reply was so light-hearted. Thank you for covering this difficult material. Innisfree987 (talk) 19:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)