User talk:I dream of horses/2019/March

Please comment on Talk:Keith Urban

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A message from Kamal234567

hi this is kamal Pruthi here can you share your contact details. so that we will talk to each other and your help with this article publishing.

Kamal234567 (talk) 06:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Kamal234567: If you had read either the templates at the top of the page, or the edit notice you see before you edit, you'll will have noticed that I link to my contact information.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:31, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, my first article "Makinde Azeez" on Wikipedia was rejected and I have understood the reasons in the mail received by you. I have however reviewed and edited the post to meet wiki standard and hopefully, it will get approved by this time.

Looking forward to seeing my article going live on Wikipedia. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mywikpage (talk • contribs) 11:23, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from Wikibenchris

Hi, Thanks for your remarks on my Świętego Floriana Street in Bydgoszcz.

How can I get back to the article/draft, since now both are linked together and I bounce from one to another without having the possibility to reach the article?

That's my point. When you say Please focus on the draft, I would be happy to get a hand on the draft to modify it...but I can't! Wikibenchris (talk) 13:18, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

@Wikibenchris: That's on purpose. Please focus on the draft.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 13:27, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Your speedy deletion of request of Aepytus (son of Cresphontes)?

You requested the speedy deletion of Aepytus (son of Cresphontes) as a copyvio of https://findwords.info/term/aepytus, when that page has instead been clearly copied from Wikipedia. Can you please explain? Paul August ☎ 05:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Paul August: It looks like we have a website that needs to be exempt from Earwigs Copyvio tool.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:28, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

You didn't look at the page you linked to above yourself? Paul August ☎ 14:32, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Paul August: I looked at it through Earwigs tool. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 17:58, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't know anything about "Earwigs tool", does it provide a look at the page itself, so you can decide if the page has been copied from Wikipedia? If it does, then in this case it would seem obvious that this page had been copied from WIkipedia. Paul August ☎ 20:52, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Paul August: I'm talking about this tool here. There's a disclaimer so this is ultimately my bad.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:30, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

OK, I see. Thanks. Paul August ☎ 13:29, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Force theory

I've added a source, a credible one at that, to the article. Let's hope it get reviewed quickly. Themane2 (talk) 05:42, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Themane2: Any reason to rush? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@I dream of horses: As far as I'm concerned, this article should have been one of the first government-related articles on this site. It's as important as social contract theory, and in fact is more accurate. Do you agree? Themane2 (talk) 05:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Themane2: Given that it wasn't reviewed as an article for over a decade, it's also one of the least read, so the draft review can wait a while.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:55, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@I dream of horses: Fair enough. I'm sure it'll be read in due time. Themane2 (talk) 05:58, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from יפתח עם חיוך about Meirav_Heiman

dear dream of horses about : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Meirav_Heiman

she is very well known artiest in Israel: https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%99%D7%A8%D7%91_%D7%94%D7%99%D7%9E%D7%9F

she have an Event now in Boston USA : https://calendar.artsboston.org/event/one-foot-planted-ayelet-carmi-meirav-heiman/ https://www.boston.com/event/one-foot-planted-ayelet-carmi-meirav-heiman-7619292

I don't know what else do you want me to add to the wiki value to make it work in English please help me

thanks yftach

יפתח עם חיוך (talk) 06:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@יפתח עם חיוך: As stated in the message sent to you, I reguested sources not affiliated with the museums Meirav Heiman works with.

If you feel more comfortable writing in another language, there are other Wikipedias. Like, for example, there's a Hebrew Wikipedia.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:23, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Nonbinary Sexuality (disambiguation)

A tag has been placed on Nonbinary Sexuality (disambiguation) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

Unnecessary disambiguation page (only one associated article)

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A message from David.m.donohue

REF: Emergent Coding

Hi I dream of horses,

Thanks for the speedy review.

I'm a little confused by your comment - This submission provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject matter - I suspect most people in the world won't ever understand the concept, but I thought those with a solid understanding of how high level programming works will readily understand.

Should say that I'm not a tech expert, I've just spent a lot of time listening to the guy explain this.

Any tips would be really appreciated.

Regards,

David.m.donohue (talk) 06:34, 4 March 2019 (UTC)david.m.donohue

@David.m.donohue: Who is the "the guy" you've been listening to, and how did he get a self-described tech non-expert to understand something that would go over the head of anyone without a "solid understanding of how high level programming works"?  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:40, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@David.m.donohue: To clarify what I meant, I was wondering if you could use This Guy as a role model to make the draft a bit simpler.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks - the "guy" is Noel Lovisa, the one who had and has developed the idea - he and I went to school together last century and we periodically use each other as sounding boards - he works in computers and is very analytical, I work/ed in government and politics so tend to be more conceptual and humanist. Over a couple of years he gently explained this concept to me and when I "got it" I thought wow, this could be groundbreaking. I'll have another run at this, if that's ok.

David

@David.m.donohue: Yeah, go ahead. You might want to at least skim through our no original research policies, since you learned it from a friend. Best case scenario, you're aware of one more policy and can find suitable sources for your draft that prove that your friend is not the only person looking into this. I'm probably being overly cautious.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:00, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Draft:AcademyOcean has issues with tonality -- Tvlasenko (talk)

Thank you for such a speedy review.

Can you, please, point me to the parts of the article you found were not in the correct tone?

I read the Wikipedia:Writing better articles but couldn't think of the edits I need to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvlasenko (talk • contribs) 08:33, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@Tvlasenko: After looking over it, it seems that that primary/user-generated sources are a bigger concern. My apologies. More revelant essays/policies include what we look for in a reliable source, our official policy on it, and our notability policy.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from DavidBlaze

Hello I dream of horses ! what are the best ways to get references for a band page? DavidBlaze (talk) 23:12, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

@DavidBlaze: Magazine and newspaper articles that have been fact-checked (not interviews) and aren't press releases.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:10, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Moran Mor Athanasius Yohan Metropolitan

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There ain't any Copyvio

Dear Friend, Please look at [1] and help to xplain to Rossguill that there ain't any Copyvio because the text can be used freely via the OTRS decision. Thank you for everything.Borgatya (talk) 12:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC) Borgatya (talk) 12:17, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

@Borgatya: Rossguill gets it now.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:58, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

AfC

The lack of internal links is of course a reason for declining a blp like Draft:Lorena Aguilar Revelo, but at least as I interpret it, I think that the incorrect formatting of such links is not a reason--refs just have to be there, not be formatted properly. Such things can be fixed in article space. (Tho I do decline if it's so bad it cannot be easily interpreted). DGG ( talk ) 04:30, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@DGG: Oh. Of course. I'll consider that for the future.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:59, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from Hitomishirirana

What do you consider a reliable source? For 60 year old company, its website is the most reliable source, I guess. If it would have been an american MNC, you would not have even bothered to review the page as it evident from the existence of many MNC pages which looks to me like advertising billboards! So, please pin point which information you are not able to verify on the page i created for Kagla Vaportech Corporation Hitomishirirana (talk) 02:26, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Hitomishirirana: A reliable and independent source would automatically exclude a website that is affiliated with the company you're writing about, though it does make sense to have the website at the end of the article. The official policy about reliable sources is here, and a summary of the policy is here. Basically, you'll need sources that are noted for second checking the information contained within it.

If you see an article that looks like a billboard, please fix it as it probably fell through the cracks. Thanks in advance.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 05:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Jacob Anders sources

I dream of horses there are multiple websites referencing Jacob Anders and his policy positions. I have added more Hotbagoftots (talk) 07:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

request for DOB

Why do you need this? Nothing to do with Mickey's work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missmadameclaude (talk • contribs) 05:56, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@Missmadameclaude: I've worked on a lot of articles over the years, so you'll need to link to the one you're talking about per my edit notice ("You will need to link to whichever page you need help with.") -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 09:00, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from Uvberot

Hi, thank you for your comment on the Draft for Great Learning. I've removed the word industry-relevant from the article. Please do let me know if anything else needs to be done. Uvberot (talk) 09:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:Article titles

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hi

hi, how are you doing? can you please check my second article. I took your suggestions and added reliable sources to improve this one. Thanks Animunie marie (talk) 08:38, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

@Animunie marie: It's better to have someone else review your draft most of the time. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:56, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Nebulas

Hello there! I wrote some hours ago an article about Nebulas, a blockchain-based platform. I didn't realized until recently that Nebulas would be better as a redirection than an article about something that most people wouldn't be looking for. I copypasted the contents of my original article to Nebulas (blockchain platform), and added an entry to the related disambiguation page.

As I'm not very active in this Wikipedia (I mostly do edits on the Spanish one), can I ask you for additional advice on the article? It was tagged as non-relevant, but I already added several references to it. What I'm trying to avoid is a quick deletion or another maintenance template. I'll be very grateful if you can take a quick look at it and give me some feedback if I did miss something.

Thanks!

--Canopus⁴⁹ - Replies here 02:24, 10 March 2019 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by ProgramadorCCCP (talk • contribs)

@ProgramadorCCCP: There's a certain point that you can just go ahead and remove the {{notability}} tag, and I think you've gotten to that point.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 02:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC) (Corrected ping at 02:28, 10 March 2019 (UTC))

Milde-Biese-Aland

Hi, the page Draft talk:Milde-Biese-Aland still had a redir to the main article space. I've replaced this by some explanations. You are welcome to share your thoughts there! (I've also wrote at User_talk:Polyamorph#Milde-Biese-Aland.) --Cyfal (talk) 11:37, 10 March 2019 (UTC)

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Re Draft:Horiyasu

Dear I dream of horses,

Thank you for taking the time to review my draft. It is my first time creating on Wikipedia and my complete lack of information on my first submission was terrible. I apologize. I have put together a more comprehensive Draft:Horiyasu although I am still unsure about my reference formatting. I would appreciate your feedback on it.

I am looking forward to your review of my re submission and I appreciate your advice and expertise.

Martenpharez (talk) 07:00, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

@Martenpharez: I tend to like to have other people review resubmitted drafts.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:51, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Cathy McMorris Rodgers

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Hello

Hi. Android Q is my first Wikipedia article I've ever made. Did you delete it? Can you bring it back later? You should make some it's to edit yourself too. I'm new to Wikipedia so I'm still learning and everything. Have a nice day! Thanos2556 (talk) 14:35, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Thanos2556: I moved it to draftspace. If you hadn't removed the talk page message that told you about me doing that, you'd still have the link in an easily accessible location.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 06:44, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Chronic prostatitis/chronic pelvic pain syndrome

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Autopatrolled nomination

Greetings User:I dream of horses. First, I would like to thank you for your nomination to be reviewed to become autopatrolled. Second, I would like to know how a negative finding can be appealed. One reviewer made one very poorly founded negative comment, and that was that. There must be a way to be reconsidered.

Their complaint, a gross over-generalization with a distinctly snarky twist, was: "Not done. Tends to create articles without categories – which is fine, but obviously benefits from the attention of NPPers who can either categorise them or tag them as {{uncategorised}}"

If they had taken the time to do so they would have seen that I have been fastidious in adding categories ever since I grasped that was an expectation of creating new articles. A brief history: I started creating content articles in earnest in 2015, with 19 that year (and numerous non-content). I created none in 2016, one in 2017, and ten in 2018. So far in 2019 I have created an even 20, 16 of them in the first two months alone before backing off during the review process, for a total of 88 to date.

Somewhere along the line in early 2019 (I just looked it up: January 19) I received a ping that someone had added a notice that a new article I had created was "uncategorized". Honestly, I thought it was a mistake, as I was not aware that editors added categories, I thought they were added by administrators or some group effort like a WikiProject for them, or by BOTs, as cruise around the Wikiverse doing all kinds of automated tasks. I figured there was some algorithm that sought out key words for tools like HotCat and then added appropriate categories to pages.

I'm just a good faith editor, well versed in writing and editing, with over 40,000 edits since 2008. I've just created pages that look and act like other pages; I don't get memos, nor anyone else, saying "These are the requirements for creating an article," or have my articles rejected because they are poorly formed. (I have only had three permanently deleted, and none since 2015, one that I made a typo in creating and two attempts at disambiguation that took other paths.) Instead, they all get successfully reviewed.

After a second ping (I just looked it up too, February 16) about adding categories I started to get the idea that maybe I could add them (not that I was supposed or required to; I still thought that there were patrols of BOTs or folks who enjoyed doing it, who evidently were included in the snarky swipe quoted above). All 12 articles I've created since grasping that I could, not simply that I should or must, have been categorized.

So, how may a sweeping over-generalization that took absolutely no context into account be corrected and a second review conducted? Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 14:37, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Wikiuser100: There's no official appeal process. However, you can "appeal" by creating new articles with categories in them, and renominating yourself in six months.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:33, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for checking your Talk page, User:I dream of horses. I can understand your needing a break here. Best I could make it out you were batting around 0% for autopatrolled nominations for those already on the list when I was and added to it through like Wednesday.

This whole thing is asinine. Somebody who doesn't remotely do due diligence vetoes a legitimate nomination with a cursory wave, completely failing to recognize universal compliance with category addition once I had been made aware that it evidently was my responsibility and not a BOTs or helpful pixies at whatever NPP is. There is no appeal process. And now the best case is waiting six months and nominating myself? It's no wonder that tip-top folks bail here...they are endlessly pushed to it.

Good luck, wherever you wander on the Internet. At some 380,000 edits you surely have more patience for nonsense than me. It's nipping at me on all sides. Time for an extended break, or permanent. Shame, as I have just been the most productive here I have ever been. Thanks again for trying to make everybody's lives a little simpler here. Obviously others don't share that goal. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 22:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

@Wikiuser100: Whenever you see a {{bonked}} template on my userspace, I'm bored with Wikipedia, not stressed out by it. After al, all of the work I do on Wikipedia is repetitive to an extent.

For what it's worth, having to prove you'll continue to add categories to articles is reasonable, in my opinion. I nominated you prematurely, for which I apologize. Perhaps six months is overly-cautious, but if you continue to add categories to articles in that time frame, you getting autopatrolled is substantially higher than if you only waited, for example, a month.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@I dream of horses:. Bored? OK. Not so here. Exasperated and insulted. What kind of Alice in Wonderland Star Chamber court is this? Somebody is held responsible for something they have no idea whatsoever they are responsible for, then when they comply some lazy administrator ignores the compliance and states they are in non-compliance, upon which there is no appeal, requiring them to prove their submission by continuing to comply for another six months or, what, year, to be worthy of the same kind of treatment? There's alot of words I can use for that, but I won't here. Who needs this nonsense? I don't. Thanks for trying, but this is among the worst and most arbitrary treatments I have ever had at Wikipedia, and I have had lots of it, from administrators alongside the rabble. For doing what? Minding my business and being a productive, conscientious editor. Yours, Wikiuser100 (talk) 08:28, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

draft:Victor Kord

Okay so I saw you moved back the draft and I added sources - I also responded to the conflict of interest message so I believe the article is ready to move to article status? Thanks Nudgol (talk) 18:25, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

@Nudgol: If you think its' ready, you should submit by adding {{subst:submit}} at the top. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:46, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from Valiyaparambil

Hello, Appreciate if you can review my article which was declined last month. Hope i made all the necessary changes. (@I dream of horses:) Valiyaparambil (talk) 07:39, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

My page was declined. Kindly review

Hello,

Please review my first post on wikipedia, which was rejected by you last month.

Regards, Valiyaparambil — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valiyaparambil (talk • contribs) 07:41, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Valiyaparambil: No. It's best that you have someone else do it with a fresh set of eyes.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:1976 Tangshan earthquake

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Following up regarding Totonac Quiahuiztlan page

Hello. Thank you for the feedback on improving my submission. I am following up because I wanted to make sure that the corrected version had been received and wanted to know if there is anything more I need to do. Please let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avidhistoryresearcher (talk • contribs) 12:49, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

@Avidhistoryresearcher: There's certainly some improvement in the quality of the sources. We'll see what the next reviewer says.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 04:31, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

FR30799386's User Scripts

Dear all. Recently, FR30799386 (talk) was blocked for sock puppetry. Among their projects were a number of user scripts that they left behind. I (DannyS712) have copied the scripts, and have taken over maintaining them. You currently import one or more of FR30799386's scripts, and I thought that you might want to import a maintained version. Links to each script are provided below.

• User:DannyS712/communicator
• User:DannyS712/copyvio-check
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If you have any questions, please reach out and talk to me. --DannyS712 (talk) 03:57, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ministry of Transport

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A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	i need some help with my talk page Wolfiegurl101 (talk) 09:55, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@Wolfiegurl101: Specifically what with? -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:09, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

A message from Melinalowks

Melinalowks (talk) 18:52, 22 March 2019 (UTC) Howdy, I've made several edits to the new page "Carlos Felipe de Habsburgo-Lorena y Arenburg". Wonder if you could check it, and tell me if it needs anything before it's published, and could get a bit of help.

Thanks, Melina :)

@Melinalowks: Please link to the draft per the edit notice above. Thanks.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:11, 24 March 2019 (UTC) (fixed ping at 01:13, 24 March 2019 (UTC)~)

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Hello. I am not going to edit war on this - or anything else - but you should note that 1. the article is supported by a very strong and reliable source and notability is clearly established 2. people complain about articles being drafted and clogging the AfC process 3. when you are reverted (as you were) you are supposed to follow BRD 4. our general goal here is to create an encyclopedia. Thanks and regards, Biwom (talk) 03:24, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

1. I disagree about the sourcing, hence the drafting.
2. Complaining aside, there is a strong consensus about drafting avoiding newer editors getting bitten, who will often leave the project if their article gets deleted or cleanup tagged. The retaining of new editors should be prioritized over the feelings of experienced editors.
3. My bad.
4. Right, and drafting poorly/unsourced articles helps with building an encyclopedia.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 03:29, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello. Can you check WP:DRAFTIFY though? What I read there includes:

• "an unreviewed page may be moved to draft if ... there is no assertion that the page belongs in mainspace, such as a clear statement to that effect in the edit history, or on the talk page, or a revert of a previous draftification."
• "Other editors (including the author of the page) have a right to object to moving the page, and to have the matter discussed at WP:AfD. If an editor raises an objection, move the page back to mainspace and list at AfD."

So I believe you should do just that. Thanks and regards, Biwom (talk) 03:46, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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Damaging move of Miniatures game page

move Draft:Miniatures game back to Miniatures game. Your displacement of it to Draft space was unwarranted and unwelcome. Feel free to revert it back to the version prior to my recent edits (back to a redirect) if you like, but moving this and ruining Special:Whatlinkshere/Miniatures game is unacceptable. -- Netoholic @ 08:13, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

@Netoholic: No, and here's why:

• If I feel an article is undersourced, it's justifiable and warranted to move it to draftspace.
• Redlinks are okay, making Special:Whatlinkshere/Miniatures game near impossible to ruin.
  • If an article has an excessive amount of linkage, whether red or blue, that's an issue with that specific article, not with the Special:Whatlinkshere page,
• If you feel that strongly about having it in mainspace, you can {{sofixit}} and move it back yourself. I know now better than to re-revert that. -- I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 01:11, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

The main problem is that it was clearly marked as {{Under construction}} for only a couple of hours. It has about 15 years of page history, so moving it to Draft: is absolutely inappropriate in this case. Moreover, you didn't follow the guidelines under WP:DRAFTIFY - specifically that you did not notify editors that you moved it there and you've failed to move it back per "If an editor raises an objection, move the page back to mainspace and list at AfD".

Move it back. -- Netoholic @ 01:36, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

@Netoholic: Please explain why you can't move it back yourself.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 12:21, 27 March 2019 (UTC) (fixed ping at 12:22, 27 March 2019 (UTC))

First, because you have page mover and can do it without leaving a redirect. Second, it was your error and I think its important for you to correct it. I'm already tackling the re-write, that's my role. You moved it incorrectly, so fixing it is your role. -- Netoholic @ 19:50, 27 March 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @Netoholic: your tone comes off as very rude and demanding. I'm sure you don't intend it that way, but it doesn't enamour yourself to the users you're asking to assist you: It's quite impolite to demand somebody make use of a userright they have been granted that you do not possess. Additionally; there's no harm in an article sitting in draftspace for a while, especially when it's in the state Draft:Miniatures_game is. Improve the article and move it back into mainspace when you feel it's ready for generalised consumption (which that draft definitely is not, right now). -- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 09:42, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Alfie: - 'I dream of horses' used their page mover ability to Draftify this page, so its hardly improper to expect them to use it moving it back. The "state" of the page would not be an issue if they hadn't moved the page improperly in the first place while it was marked for being under a major rewrite. -- Netoholic @ 09:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Well, as it is, the article probably wouldn't pass an AfC review, so I don't expect it to get moved back to mainspace any time soon. -- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 09:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Alfie: - It doesn't have to to pass AFC. Its not really a draft. Its a 15-year old page. -- Netoholic @ 09:59, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I disagree - the 15-year-old article was merged into Miniature wargaming, where the useful content now lives. You're effectively writing a new article. On that note, how and why is the article Draft:Miniatures game distinct from Miniature wargaming? -- a. ^{get in the spam hole | get nosey} 10:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

"the 15-year-old article was merged into Miniature wargaming" - So indeed this page has pre-merge page history which must be preserved because attribution of edits is a requirement. Another strong reason why this sloppy DRAFTIFY needs to be corrected. -- Netoholic @ 10:21, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Netoholic: I hope you realize that your tonality is one reason why I'm so reluctant to "correct my error". I don't want to reinforce your behavior. There's no reason to use my page mover right, as it wouldn't fit into the redirect surpression criteria. If I did violate this criteria, I could lose my page mover right.

Also, I agree with Alfie that the useful content exists elsewhere, and that, in spirit, you're writing a new article. The only reason I'm not accusing you of going against consensus is that it could very well be outdated consensus.

The problem with attribution can eventually be corrected with a history merge, so that's not an urgent problem. Note that I will most likely revert the article back into a redirect if you move it back into mainspace.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 14:54, 28 March 2019 (UTC) (Fixed ping at 14:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC))

Perhaps you should lose it anyway, since I've looked at some of your other DRAFTIFY actions using page mover and found several others that go against procedure. In this case, moving it without a redirect would leave people guessing where the attribution is. I told you in the very first post here I don't care if you revert it to a redirect, as long as you put the page back on Mainspace. If your next action in this regard is to keep justifying inaction by complaining about my "attitude" instead of following the requirement of WP:DRAFTIFY to put the pack back immediately if an editor opposes... then the next post I make will be to WP:AN/I listing the page moves of pages with signficant history that you've been wrongly putting to Draft:. -- Netoholic @ 19:28, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Netoholic: Go ahead and post to AN/I. Best case scenario (for me, anyways), nothing really happens. Another possibility is I get told to stop draftifying articles with a significant history. Worst case scenario, I lose a userright that I'm not emotionally attached to.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 22:49, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

I have a better idea. I'll give you some WP:ROPE and check back to see if you get hung up again. I suggest being less of a script kiddy and instead be a bit more diligent. Check to ensure each article is not one with a significant history before you hit that button. And if someone complains, then forget about being faux-insulted by their "tone" and follow your other WP:DRAFTIFY responsibility to move it right back where it was. -- Netoholic @ 00:58, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

@Netoholic: I really don't appreciate being called a "script kiddie". Please don't call me names like that. Also, the fact you accused me of being "faux insulted" when the insult I felt was genuine is deeply upsetting to me.

I'm confused as to why you think this is a better option when you clearly want a higher scrutiny on my edits. After all, it's not shameful to ask for help. I'd also be more comfortable continuing this conversation in front of objective third parties, anyway.

One advantage of escalating this to AN/I (or perhaps another board is more appropriate?) will only increase the number of people looking at my edit history, offering differing perspectives and experiences. If consensus forms that I need a WP:ROPE, there will be multiple people "holding" said "rope", lessening the burden on you. If there's a consensus that I need to give up my page mover right, well, then I just have to give it up, because there's multiple people agreeing, not just one. There's always a risk of a so-called "boomerang" effect. Then again, if you have "clean hands", this risk is microscopically close to 0%.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 07:37, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

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Hi I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never heard of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Hughes nor can I recvall any edit I have made to his page. Perhaps you could tell me what I am supposed to have done! 78.144.89.120 (talk) 22:36, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

You probably changed IP addresses somehow. So, fair enough, you didn't do anything; someone else who had the IP address previously did. If I were you, I'd register an account if I were to make any further edits.  I dream of horses (My talk page) (My edits) @ 19:21, 31 March 2019 (UTC)