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ForbiddenRocky (talk) 22:10, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Making Diff Links Pretty

You can use Special:Diff if you want to make your diffs pretty. For example, [[Special:Diff/645645952|revert]] will turn into -> revert. — Strongjam (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

thanks ForbiddenRocky (talk) 20:38, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I use an easier way. Take your link and do this. [https://en.wikipedia.org Text to Display Here] which will show as Text to Display Here. This works on all links. Note: You must use single brackets "[ ]" and a space is required after the link (no pipes "|"). Happy editing! EoRdE6^{(Come Talk to Me!)} 04:24, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Hydra

And though one head be struck down, until we lift the beast off the earth, ever more heads shall spring forth.

Linking to Categories

If you want to link to a category, without adding the page to the category you can add a : in front of the wiki-link. Like so:

* [[:Category:2014 controversies]]
* [[:Category:2015 controversies]]

Gives you:

• Category:2014 controversies
• Category:2015 controversies

— Strongjam (talk) 18:58, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Does 1RR apply to the talk page?

I was passing through and noticed a question you asked.

In the section Think Progress and Epistemic Closure on Talk:Gamergate controversy you asked the question "Does 1RR apply to the talk page?" the answer that user:Thargor Orlando received from User:HJ Mitchell (now archived) gave a specific answer to a specific question, but that specific answer does not explain the general policy on refactoring talk pages.

In practice there is a prohibition on editing other users text on all article talk pages if the editor who's text is altered objects. It can be found under WP:Refactoring and the section Others' comments] in the guideline WP:TALK.

It you refactor someone else's comments and those edits are reverted you must not reinsert the refactoring. As there is no talk page about a talk page where you can explain why you made you edit and seek consensus for it, the assumption is that there is no consensus and that you should leave other peoples comments alone (the last thing we as editors need is edit warring over the content of talk pages). So if you think that a revert of an edit you make to someone else's talk page contribution violates a Wikipedia policy or guidelines (such as the bullet point "removing prohibited material" in WP:TPOC) take it to WP:ANI and ask an uninvolved administrator to reinstate the change.

-- PBS (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

{ping|PBS} Thanks. What about the templates at the top? ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:58, 11 March 2015 (UTC) @PBS: (Shoot me now. You'd think I'd know how to use ping by now) reping. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:59, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't understand what you mean. -- PBS (talk) 20:05, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

{ping|PBS}} There was editing of the templates at the top of the talk page. It was about a Think Progress link that I think MarkBernstein added.ForbiddenRocky (talk) 20:10, 11 March 2015 (UTC) @PBS: because I fail at ping. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 20:11, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Just one more "{" to go. Same rules apply, someone adds a template, someone else reverts, it gets reverted. Someone changes the content of a template it gets reverted. Both the revert and the change are refactoring. So the emphasis is on the person who wishes to refactor others edits to get a consensus for the refactoring (see for example Talk:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant/Archive 14#Talk page too long) -- BTW in reading that section you need to know that Technophant is now indefinitely blocked. -- PBS (talk) 09:33, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 13:23, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Admin Qs

@Gamaliel and Masem: (I think you are admins...)

1. Where do I ask these questions normally?
2. How do you tell who is an admin?
3. There's a 1RR violation on everyone's favorite page. I'm hoping it will resolve itself. But if I report it, does it go to AN/I or AE or the 3RR notice board? (and now I can't find the links for them)
4. Is User:MarkBernstein tbanned or not? I was under the impression he wasn't. I checked the enforcement log. Anyhow, his AN/I thing got closed with a notice saying things were rolled back. One of AE things saying he was tbanned.

ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:47, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I can answer one (yaa me.)

1. WP:3RRN will take 1RR violation requests. However I think this one might be too stale for them. They normal only act during an edit war to be preventive.

— Strongjam (talk) 17:54, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

You can ask general questions on admin'ing that are not critical at WP:AN (WP:ANI is when more immediate action is needed). Special:UserRights should tell you if a user is admin or not, if they don't publicly mention it on their page. --MASEM (t) 18:07, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

@Masem: Thanks, but when I click that link, I get "Permission error". ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay, wasn't sure if that was a limited use tool or not. I don't actually know how to otherwise easily figure that out - admin users are encouraged to make that point clear on their user page (like on mine there's the broom-wikiglobe icon at the top), but I don't see another easy way to figure this out. --MASEM (t) 18:22, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Special:ListUsers is what us regular users can use. For example, here's a link confirming Masem's status as an admin. — Strongjam (talk) 18:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:38, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

@Masem: Added sentence about WP:AN to my user page. did you want attribution? ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:57, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

@Masem, Strongjam, and Gamaliel: UGH.. The template on the GGC says to take the 1RR to AE. That seems so harsh. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 19:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I've seen 1RR vios for GG handled in 3RRN so I wouldn't worry about the exact wording. I'll mention it to Harry though. In this case I think things will work themselves out without admin intervention though. — Strongjam (talk) 19:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

I was hoping for a resolution without too much sturm und drang. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 19:24, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Notifications

To notify someone of the gamergate discretionary sanctions, the procedure is to add a new section to the talk page without doing anything else (don't add any other text at the same time). Use a section heading such as "Gamergate notification" and put the following as the comment:

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The full story is at Template:Ds/alert. Johnuniq (talk) 00:43, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Didn't know. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 00:47, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

GGC meta-discussion sanction info

• original decision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive173#TheRedPenOfDoom.2C_third_filing
• discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive272#Removal.2FModification_of_restrictions_on_editing_on_Talk:Gamergate_controversy
• discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zad68/Archive_2015_May#ARBGG_DS_page_restriction
• discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Zad68/Archive_2015_May#Page_level_restrictions
• discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)/Archive_49#500_edit_requirement_for_editing_Gamergate_controversy_and_Talk:Gamergate_controversy
• an appeal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive174#Arbitration_enforcement_action_appeal_by_Handpolk

GGC and SL

This is the song that never ends

It just goes on and on my friend

Some people started singing it not knowing what it was,

And they'll continue singing it forever just because . . .

ForbiddenRocky (talk) 05:15, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

wikification

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MOS:ENGVAR, and ... how about some articles?

Hi ForbiddenRocky,

Apologies for the interruption, just thought that I should mention that the change here is inside a direct quote from a(n Australian) source. We usually repeat quotes verbatim, rather than trying to match MOS:ENGVAR, so it might be better rolled back.

And while I'm here, I've been meaning to ask if you, or Dumuzid, would like to collaborate on creating some articles on some prominent Women in Video Games. I worked together with Strongjam and DHeyward on the "Bonnie Ross" article, and found it a rewarding experience; and have been meaning to go back and work on some articles for the other women mentioned in this source.

There is, of course, no requirement, but please let me know if you're interested. - Ryk72 ^'c.s.n.s.' 08:38, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Ryk72: Oops. I would actually like that, but between now and next March things looks crazy for me. Sorry. If I get free, I'll let you know. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 10:32, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Stop, please

Stop reverting me, please. Anyone - not just you - who edits little but GG-related articles is going to be inherently biassed. That they try to stifle discussion just exemplifies that fact. Please feel free to contribute to Wikipedia in a wider role. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 18:18, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

@Sitush: you are in violation of the meta conversation warning at the top of the talk page. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:21, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

@Sitush: please restore the hat ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:22, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I've no idea what you are talking about but will go look now. It doesn't alter the fact that you are quite clearly not here to improve the encyclopaedia but rather to push a very narrow agenda. Sooner or later, you'll go the same way as the rest. And good riddance it will be. - Sitush (talk) 18:31, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

@Sitush: there's an AE sanction mentioned at the top of the talk page that says meta topics are supposed to be moved to the meta-page. Please restore the hat. Move the conversation there. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 18:33, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't see what is "meta" about what I said, nor why it needs to be moved. However, I am about to read the relevant stuff. Hopefully, you'll be banished for good before I've finished doing so but, alas, I doubt it. - Sitush (talk) 18:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Or I guess you could move it if you are convinced that you are correct. The whole thing is just a mess of laws and it is people like you who are abusing them. - Sitush (talk) 18:38, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

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Censorship

If you censor me one more time at Talk:Gamergate controversy when I am discussing the relationship between thrashing out a solution and the conceptual problem that underlies the article, I swear I will find some way to have you blocked from editing it at all. Enough is enough. - Sitush (talk) 06:42, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Controversial Reddit communities

Afternoon, I would appreciate your input to an RFC introduced by an SPA relating to the inclusion of SRS in the "Controversial Reddit communities". SPA has canvassed to overturn 3 years of consensus on a 4 day vote. Koncorde (talk) 15:08, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

@Koncorde: I don't have the bandwidth to poke through that RfC. The most I could say is go with RS. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 01:27, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

No problem. IP doesn't understand reliable sources, and had canvassed for support (likely astro-turfing too) after raising non-neutral RFC. It was just getting to the point of full on edit warring that I was trying to avoid. He's now having the same issue on Political Correctness trying to push constructive edits there. Koncorde (talk) 06:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

IP did not canvass for support. IP contacted one editor for comments, while Koncorde canvassed no less than half a dozen editors in an effort to influence the RFC. There was zero edit warring, except perhaps on the part of Koncorde. The title of the article is "Controversial Reddit Communities" I suggested a non-controversial addition, provided sources (one of which called SRS quote "the most controversial subreddit") and discussed in talk. As a result I've been insulted, harassed, and accused of being a sock. Sorry to post on your page, Rocky, but I wanted you to at least have some perspective. 2602:301:772D:62D0:E8E7:7B7B:3A2A:959B (talk) 05:53, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

User:2602:301:772D:62D0:E8E7:7B7B:3A2A:959B, you're not helping your cause stalking Koncorde. From what I'm seeing, but without out doing serious investigation, dropping the stick may be wise on your part. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 06:59, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

OK. Good advice. 2602:301:772D:62D0:181A:1494:FA9D:30DD (talk) 07:02, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Question

I have a question: What did you mean when you said "I remind that moving discussions not about editing GGC to the meta page was an Arbitration Enforcement "? Thank you for your kind attention. Chrisrus (talk) 16:57, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Please read the headers at the top of the GGC talk page. The information is there. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:16, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

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