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DYK nomination of Park Avenue main line

  Hello! Your submission of Park Avenue main line at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SounderBruce 09:10, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

Metro North

the current plan is to replace the P32s with dual mode sc-44s and replace the shoreliner coaches with multilevel coaches. M9s will come one day, but metro north is not planning on it being soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheesy popcorn (talkcontribs) 16:00, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

@Cheesy popcorn: That makes sense, thanks. The MTA board meeting report said the Metro-North would not order M9As until a future capital program. There still needs to be a source for your other claim about SC-44s and multilevels, though. epicgenius (talk) 16:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

no plan is set in stone, but dual mode chargers and multilevels seems most likely

OK. But that can't be put in the article because there is no definite source. epicgenius (talk) 21:35, 7 February 2019 (UTC)


A friendly question for you from a clueless outsider to the whole MTA bus situation: is the list of buses here just based off of the four MTA maps you cited there? Is there anything more conclusive? Because the MTA's station listing and the GCT website only list a small handful of buses. As well, I looked at those PDFs and I suppose I can sorta see that the buses go near Grand Central, but do all of them stop at one of the terminal's entrances, or how closeby? Do those PDFs show stops somewhere? If you are confident about those buses being relevant on the GCT article, shouldn't you list them as connections on articles like Park Avenue main line, Hudson Line, Harlem Line (all of which mention some bus connections) and maybe New Haven Line (which strangely omits bus connections)? ɱ (talk) 17:28, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

@: Yes, it's based off of the bus maps. The MTA's website only mentioned some bus lines stopping within one block of Grand Central (namely, between Madison and Third Avenues), and only the local routes. GCT's website also only lists local bus routes. However, there are plenty of express routes that stop here, and these were originally noted in the subway station's article before being pasted here.
As for Hudson, Harlem, New Haven, and Park Avenue main line bus connections, they should be in that article. But the express routes in the Bronx only drop off passengers from Manhattan, and pick up passengers to Manhattan. The connections listings wouldn't be useful in that case. epicgenius (talk) 22:11, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Okay so all of those express buses listed are based on the maps? Do they show exactly how close they drive by, or how close they stop by to the terminal? Also why doesn't the New Haven line article have any buses at all listed? ɱ (talk) 23:13, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
@: Yes, all of these express buses are shown on the bus maps. They all stop at 42nd Street and their respective avenues, which can be anywhere between 200 and 700 feet away from the actual terminal. The New Haven Line article now has bus connections. Someone removed all these connections a month ago under the guise of removing unsourced content, but which was really borderline vandalism. epicgenius (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

191st Street

Early last year, we had a discussion on my talk page about whether the article was ready to be a GA. I have fixed several of the citations and added some. I will look for more on its 2003 station renovation. What else do you think needs to be done before it is nominated? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 21:02, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Kew Gardens 613, I think you should probably check to see if there are any other major details that can be added. The history is centered around a few incidents and events, but otherwise I think it may be GA quality. epicgenius (talk) 01:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Thanks for the suggestion. I have expanded the history, and will add stuff from article clippings I made on Gardens 613 (talk) 17:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Is there anything else that I should do before nominating it? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:17, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm busy right now, but will type some comments later. epicgenius (talk) 20:18, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:19, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
@Kew Gardens 613: From the brief read-through, it looks good enough for GA. You may want to check for grammar errors, though. epicgenius (talk) 22:16, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Thanks. I fixes some errors. I finally was able to look for sources on Fulton History–the site hadn't been working all day, and found many articles that I can use as sources. I found the date for the installation of the third and fourth elevators and additional information about development around the station and the pedestrian tunnel. Once I have added all that information, I will nominate it. Thanks again for your help and for urging me to withdraw the nomination earlier this year.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 01:44, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Growth team updates #5

Welcome to the fifth newsletter for the new Growth team!  

The Growth team's objective is to work on software changes that help retain new contributors in mid-size Wikimedia projects.

New projects for discussion

We began the "Personalized first day" project with the welcome survey so that we could gather information about what newcomers are trying to accomplish. The next step is to use that information to create experiences that help the newcomers accomplish their goal – actually personalizing their first day. We asked for community thoughts in the previous newsletter, and after discussing with community members and amongst our team, we are now planning two projects as next steps: "engagement emails" and "newcomer homepage".

  • Engagement emails: this project was first discussed positively by community members here back in September 2018, and the team how has bandwidth to pursue it. The idea is that newcomers who leave the wiki don't get encouraged to return to the wiki and edit. We can engage them through emails that send them the specific information they need to be successful – such as contact from a mentor, the impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?
  • Newcomer homepage: we developed the idea for this project after analyzing the data from the welcome survey and EditorJourney datasets. We saw that many newcomers seem to be looking for a place to get started – a place that collects their past work, options for future work, and ways to learn more. We can build this place, and it can connect to the engagement emails. The content of both could be guided by what newcomers say they need during their welcome survey, and contain things like contact from a mentor, impact of their edits, or task recommendations. Please read over the project page, and comment on its discussion page with any ideas, questions, or concerns. Do you think this is a good idea? Where could we go wrong?

Initial reports on newcomer activity

We have published initial reports on each of the team's first two projects. These reports give the basic numbers from each project, and there are many more questions we will continue to answer in future reports. We're excited about these initial findings. They have already helped us define and design parts of our future projects.

  • Welcome survey: the initial report on welcome survey responses is available here. Some of the main findings:
    • Most users respond to the survey, giving it high response rates of 67% and 62% in Czech and Korean Wikipedias, respectively.
    • The survey does not cause newcomers to be less likely to edit.
    • The most common reason for creating an account in Korean Wikipedia is to read articles—not for editing—with 29% of Korean users giving that responses.
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    • Large numbers of users view help or policy pages on their first day: 42% in Czech and 28% in Korean.
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Help panel deployment

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  • About 5% of Czech users ask questions, and about 1% of Korean users ask questions.

We think that the 20% open rate and 50% click rate are strong numbers, showing that a lot of people are looking for help, and many want to help themselves by looking at help pages. The somewhat lower numbers of asking questions (especially in Korean Wikipedia) has caused us to consider new features to allow people to help themselves. We're going to be adding a search bar to the help panel next, which will allow users to type a search that only looks for pages in the Help and Wikipedia namespaces.

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What is the way to built a good help page? What blocks you when writing an help page? Your replies will help to create better help contents to newcomers, that would be used on Help panel.

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AirTrain JFK TFA

Hi, this is to let you know that the above article will appear as Today's Featured Article on March 9, 2019. The blurb to be used can be found here. You are free to edit the blurb, and may want to watchlist that page, as well as WP:ERRORS in case there are queries about it on the day it runs, as well as the previous day. If you have questions or concerns, feel free to post on my talk. Thanks for building quality content!--Wehwalt (talk) 14:35, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

renaming category

How did you get all the pages in the category Dutch place names in New York State to reclassify themselves in New York (state)? Did you have to change them one by one?

Sorry to give you extra work. deisenbe (talk) 13:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Deisenbe, No worries. I used a script called Cat-a-lot, which is an automated script originally used on Commons. epicgenius (talk) 13:26, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Category:Classical place names in New York State also needs to be corrected. deisenbe (talk) 13:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Deisenbe, I have done that just now. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. epicgenius (talk) 16:13, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for 190th Street (IND Eighth Avenue Line)

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for IND Sixth Avenue Line

 On 22 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article IND Sixth Avenue Line, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during construction of New York City's Sixth Avenue subway line in the 1930s, workers had to build around various utilities and tunnels, including an existing railroad tunnel and an elevated line? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/IND Sixth Avenue Line. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, IND Sixth Avenue Line), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Park Avenue main line

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

User:Kew Gardens 613/List of closed New York City Subway entrances

Do you have any suggestions in terms of this list I and Mtattrain have been working on? Any new idea for sources? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 16:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

@Kew Gardens 613: I think there may be a few more closed entrances on the Nassau Street Line. For example, the Bowery (BMT Nassau Street Line) article says there may have been another entrance from Bowery to the median of Delancey Street. I can't provide any sources, but I'll look for them later. epicgenius (talk) 17:27, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
> I inputted that, it was a removed entrance. The Joseph Korman article shows a picture and plans of it. Mtattrain (talk) 19:17, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


Sometimes a more chronological view of a topic is helpful, especially if it just covers the basics. I just created Draft:Timeline of Grand Central Terminal based on the FL Timeline of Briarcliff Manor, which you're invited to add to! I might really want to keep it to the main essentials: construction, renovation, additions, other major changes. Lmk what you think, ɱ (talk) 19:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Bakerloo line extension 2014 plan RDT

Protect R Train Article (Again)

Yup. There’s some dude who keeps changing the top picture on the R train page again. Please help. I’m getting sick and tired of this constant change of photos and I wish there was a way to ban these guys.

Davidng913 (talk) 02:30, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Davidng913, I just requested protection of the article. epicgenius (talk) 03:13, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Epicgenius Thanks so much. Davidng913 (talk) 04:24, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Feb 27 WikiWednesday Salon + Mar 2 MoMA Art+Feminism and beyond

February 27, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan
(note this month we will be meeting in Midtown Manhattan, not at Babycastles)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Wikimedia New York City Team 08:59, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Saturday March 2: MoMA Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon

Art+Feminism’s sixth-annual MoMA Wikipedia Edit-a-thon will take place at the Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Education and Research Building, The Museum of Modern Art, New York, 4 West 54 Street, on Saturday, March 2, 2019 from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. People of all gender identities and expressions are encouraged to attend.

And on Sunday this weekend:

Stay tuned for other Art+Feminism and related edit-a-thons throughout the month!

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Template:Did you know nominations/Queens Botanical Garden

Epicgenius, it's been over three weeks since you said you'd be doing the QPQ for this DYK nomination. Just a quick reminder that it needs to be done soon. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:44, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, Thanks for the reminder. I will do it soon. epicgenius (talk) 19:01, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
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