Dug Breizh

December 2019

I see that you have created two copies of the same draft under different titles. I don't know what your purpose was in doing that, but it serves no useful purpose, and can create problems, such as difficulty in keeping track of changes, and duplication of effort as an editor spends time reviewing one of the drafts when the work has already been done by someone else on the other copy. I shall therefore delete the second copy. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 22:37, 14 December 2019 (UTC)

Indeed, I wanted to change the name of the page but not arriving there, new page. In any case I have finished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dug Breizh (talk • contribs) 00:20, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

OK, I have renamed the page from "Draft:Pierre III of Brittany" to "Draft:Prince Pierre, Duke of Brittany". You won't be able to rename pages yet, but when your account has existed for a few more days and you have done just a little more editing you will be able to. For future reference here is how to do it. Renaming a page is unfortunately called "moving" it to a new title. (I say "unfortunately" because that seems to me unhelpful to new editors, who are unlikely to look for something about "moving" a page when they just want to rename it.) Near the top of any page there are some links for editing the page, viewing its history, and so on. You may see one of those links to "move" the page. If you can't see it, look for a little downward pointing triangle, and click on that to see more links, which should include "move". Either way, once you click on "move" you should see stuff for moving the page. There are two boxes labelled "New title:" The first of those shows the "namespace", which is basically what type of page it is, and which works as a drop-down list. For this page the namespace is "User talk", and for the drafts you created it is "Draft". The second box contains the particular name of the page, so for example for this page it is "Dug Breizh", and for the draft it is now "Prince Pierre, Duke of Brittany". You can edit that name, type a short explanation of your reason for moving the page in the box labelled "Reason:" and click "Move page". Note: Don't move this talk page. User talk pages should never be moved unless the user account is renamed, and if that happens the renamer who does the job will also move the user talk page, so there is never a good reason for an ordinary editor to move a user talk page. There is a lot more information about page moving at Wikipedia:Moving a page, and you may like to have a look at it. However, as with most Wikipedia information pages, guidelines, and policies, there is in my opinion far too much detail, and certainly more than you need to know now, so I don't suggest that you read every word of it and try to learn it all.

While I'm about it, I'll say a few things about using talk pages.

• Normally you should put a new section heading only if you start a new topic. In this case, with only two messages on the page, it's pretty obvious that your message headed "Response" was a reply to my message headed "December 2019", but on a talk page with numerous messages in different sections it can be hard to work out what is a response to what unless all posts on one topic are in one section. I am removing the heading you put in, so that all the messages on one topic are in one section. (This is your talk page, and if you prefer it the way it was you are free to change it back, but I don't recommend doing so.)
• When you post a response to another editor's talk page message, put a colon at the beginning of the line. That will indent your response (i.e. move it a little way to the right). If anyone then replies to your reply they can indent further by putting 2 colons, and so on. Again, there may not seem to be much point in doing that in a talk page with only two or three messages, but it is absolutely vital to do that in a long discussion where many editors post messages, some of them responses to various different messages from other editors, as otherwise it can be very difficult or even impossible to see whose message is referring to whose other message. Much the best is to get in the habit of always doing it, even when it doesn't seem necessary.
• Whenever you post a message to a talk page or any other kind of discussion page (but '''not''' an article or draft article) always finish your message with four tildes, that is to say ~~~~. That will automatically be converted to a signature, which not only shows who wrote the message, but also provides a link to your talk page, which can be very helpful to any editor who would like to contact you.

I hope some or all of those comments may be helpful to you. I hope you have a successful time as a Wikipedia editor. JBW (talk) Formerly JamesBWatson 21:40, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Prince Pierre, Duke of Brittany

Hello, Dug Breizh. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Prince Pierre".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}, {{db-draft}}, or {{db-g13}} code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:16, 16 June 2020 (UTC)