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DYK for National Police Memorial (India)

 On 3 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article National Police Memorial (India), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that India's National Police Memorial has a "Wall of Valour" bearing the names of 34,844 police personnel who died in the line of duty since the country's independence in 1947? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/National Police Memorial (India). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, National Police Memorial (India)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 12:08, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Nomination of Anushriya Gulati for deletion

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Anushriya Gulati is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anushriya Gulati until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. —Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 15:37, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018

 
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Citation gadget

Try this if you haven't Wikipedia:ProveIt, a very handy and useful tool to help in auto laoding the citations. see the screenshots. Saves a few precious seconds   cheers. --DBigXray 20:55, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Will check it out. Thanks!...
Do you think the DYK reviewer for Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts can be asked if his points are sorted out? Do you think they are sorted... Or anything else left to do related the DYK in particular. (Expanding the article otherwise is different of course) Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

I request users not to mail me

I request all Wikipedia users not to mail me. I have turned off the applicable preferences but for those few who do have my mail, if any comments are needed related to Wikipedia, they can go on this talkpage. Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 07:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to Milhist!

Thank you @Peacemaker67: I was just going through your Signpost interview - "A veteran’s Wikipedia edits help him understand the brutality behind Yugoslavia’s wars" and then chanced upon the picture of you on your talk page. Good stuff!!
We have had one chance interaction before, where you commented on the Indian task force related to a query for a page I created National Police Memorial (India), which has since been a DYK too. I am editing various other articles related to Indian military history such as a page which has surprisingly not been created till now, such as the Kargil Review Committee. Also, I just recently nominated a page I created, Delhi War Cemetery, for GA  . Will be my first GA   when it passes, if it passes. Really good work with coordinating Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history and will see you around! Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 18:35, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks DTM. Enjoy your editing! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:52, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi @Peacemaker67:. I just wanted to ask your opinion in a general sort of way about something... do you suggest users to be careful when editing sensitive pages? Like currently I am editing a page called Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts, trying to edit it properly of course with good citations and all... but should I be using an anonymous account for this with say Tor or other such things to protect my identity. Currently I make no effort to protect my identity, I use my real name and I also recently put one pic of me on my page. What do you think? Is caution needed when editing Wikipedia, even if the person is making good edits backed by good sources? Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 04:58, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
I suggest being circumspect about your identity, and also ensuring that you use sources that are not likely to be considered biased, ie try to use those from outside India and Pakistan when dealing with contentious issues within those countries. I edit in contentious areas regarding the Balkans and have been subject to personal attacks on a number of occasions in the past, despite the fact that I try very hard to be neutral in my editing and non-Balkan sources as much as possible. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:04, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
@Peacemaker67: Thank you. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 05:10, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: What do you think? Should I be careful when editing Wikipedia when it comes to my identity, especially for choosing pages to edit such as Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

@KCVelaga: Hi, I wanted to ask you your opinion of the same. Since I have my real identity on my userpage, should I stop editing pages like Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts? It's a very general question really, related to identity on Wikipedia when editing sensitive topics. And of course, I am talking about not editing them at all, irrespective of using good neutral sources. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:42, 15 December 2018 (UTC) Regards.
  • This is a question similar to the question of should I put my Email on my blog. there are pros and cons of each. On the downside, you can expect SPAM and offline unwanted messages from a pissed of user/vandal whom you reverted and he got blocked. a lot of admins and users have disclosed their identity here, so you are not alone. I dont expect you will get into any sort of trouble by editing the said article above. But if you think there are people who would be interested in tracking you based on your edits, it would be a good Idea to keep your identity secret. regarding alternative account please see WP:VALIDALT, it is important to follow all the rules there or else your account will be blocked as WP:SOCK even if that was not your intention. --DBigXray 13:13, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards

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The Signpost

Please let us know when you consider your submission to be complete so that we can proofread it and format it for the magazine. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kudpung: Just a few more things to add. Am doing it just now. Will wrap it up soon from my side and then let you all know when I am done so the proofread can start. Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 18:39, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
@Kudpung: Hi. Done!!! Finally!!! 98% done... typos and all, a note here or there... ootherwise done. Bri gave it the go ahead also. ThanksDiplomatTesterMan (talk) 07:53, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Delhi War Cemetery

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Delhi War Cemetery you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FR30799386 -- FR30799386 (talk) 11:41, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

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Full citations

Hi DTM, please always make an effort to give full citations, i.e., author, title, where it appears, and publication date. I don't know how you managed to produce citations like this one:

  • "The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Punjab". www.tribuneindia.com. Retrieved 2018-12-11.

but it is not at all clear which article you are referring to.

A bit more work may be typically involved in finding the author in an edited collection, but usually the table of contents is visible in Google Books, (assuming Preview is available). Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 20:16, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Opps, sorry. I had included another one like this from The Tribune and had changed it to the correct format, this one I overlooked. Will be more careful. Thanks. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 20:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: Fixed it. Thanks for the message. Are the changes I made to Kartarpur corridor ok? I'm done for now. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 20:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Looking through them. Stuff like black tape and tall grass etc. isn't wikiworthy. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 20:45, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: Lol, black tape I will fight about until we take it to the arbitration committee :D.... tall grass... hmm. The point was to make the article the article a little interesting but I see there is only an essay about Wikipedia:Interestingness and it's not a policy. And as per Wikipedia:Relevance of content, staying on point on topic is important. So yes. Tall grass is gone. But black tape... I think I really wanted to point out the issue of a credit war... so the point is of a credit war as compared to the black tape.
So if you look at the black tape issue from the point of trying to bring out a credit war going on, which can also be considered in the larger context too, as we see between India and Pakistan... does this make it more Wikipedia worthy?
And feel free to edit, remove, make concise, whatever you want with the other changes of mine which I added recently, (apart from the black tape for now :D). DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
By the "credit war", you mean the jostling for credit? The India-Pakistan jostling has larger international implications. In fact, they are far too large for you and me to comprehend right now. But the governments know precisely what they are doing. But the Badal fracas is just stupid and embarrassing. More importantly, the project has just begun. There will be lots more stuff to come. So please don't fill it up with trivia. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Also, we shouldn't link terms like Indian government, Pakistan government, prime minister, foreign minister etc. Everybody knows that countries have governments and ministers. Nobody will click on those links. See WP:OVERLINK for guidelines on what to link. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: Lol, I think if they are too large for me or you to comprehend, then I would include too large for everyone at a diplomatic and national level too... everyone is just going with the flow. "governments know precisely what they are doing"... don't give governments too much credit, especially in this case. I'm not certain that this is trivia, if coupled with the larger credit war. Let's take this to the talk page. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Will remove excessive link. Thanks DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

The border fence was set up in 1986. Does that date mean anything to you?

Here is something you would understand:

Soon after the ISI and the CIA became partners in their massive anti-Soviet covert operations in Afghanistan beginning in 1980, violence erupted in India’s Punjab state bordering Pakistan. Complex local reasons had led to the insurgency in Punjab, including attempted manipulation of state politics by the central government that had spun out of control, but Indian officials could not help but notice the fact that in 1978-1980 Pakistan had entertained unusually large numbers of Sikh pilgrims at Sikh shrines in Pakistan.[23] Most of the communal violence directed against Muslims in Punjab at the time of partition in 1947 had involved Sikhs, and the two communities felt bitterly toward each other ever since. Pakistan under Zia ul-Haq went forward and restored Sikh holy places and opened them for religious pilgrimage. The demand for an independent Sikh homeland, Khalistan, was raised by Sikh leaders from England and North America, most of whom had been among the pilgrims visiting Pakistan. Some of these pilgrims had been personally received by General Zia ul-Haq.[1]

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: "The border fence was set up in 1986. Does that date mean anything to you?" - are you referring to Bluestar in 1984 and the rise of "terrorism" in the following years, killing of an army chief.... I know about Khalistan... not in detail, but yes. Are you referring to these? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:43, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
I see how you are connecting this to the credit war I am talking about.... and why you think the credit war is irrelevant.... well ok... I will let it go. I was even thinking of an entire section for it, separately. Nevermind. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Close, Operation Black Thunder--DBigXray 21:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks DBigXray. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 21:55, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't think Black Thunder has much to do with it. But after Bluestar and the elimination of Bhindranwale, the movement was about to die, and the ISI took direct control of it. Sirrs knows about it.[2]
Haqqani knows about it too:

The Khalistan insurgency did not lose momentum until 1989, when the Indians fenced off part of the Punjab border with Pakistan and Pakistan’s civilian government headed by Benazir Bhutto agreed to joint patrols of the border by Indian and Pakistani troops. Sporadic violence continued until the insurgency died out in the mid-1990s. Peace in Indian Punjab did not, however, mean peace between India and Pakistan.

-- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:03, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Kautilya3 if so, then clearly the fencing year was 1989, was your initial, comment with 1986 a typo ? if not then please explain this puzzle. --DBigXray 22:13, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
1986 is what our article says. I have no idea and it doesn't matter. What matters is the indication that the leaky Kartarpur passage was used by the ISI for infiltration. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 22:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, i just checked the article. it is sourced to Express. and yes, India had to plug this leaky border with punjab and not just Kartarpur. Black Thunder happened in 1986, so its a close match, But I am not sure when the work of fencing started as it would obviously have taken substantial time to do that. but in any case, I agree it doesnt matter. --DBigXray 22:30, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: Thanks for helping me understanding how you are looking at this... and how I should be looking at this... hence the importance of the "security concerns" section on the page which you added. I know I may have added too much detail/irrelevant stuff here and there, if you spot any more remove it. I know this is just the beginning of the corridor and a lot more will come, I just wanted to make sure the article is sorted to present day at least. Today I am saturated with this Kartarpur Corridor and will stay away from it for sometime, want to move onto a page I am starting at this very moment Protocol on Visits to Religious Shrines 1974. Also will go back to Kargil Review Committee which I am on my working on in my sandbox and complete that too. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 22:58, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Check out this thread--DBigXray 14:12, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, very confusing! I've tried following up in my own way. My first interaction with this user was on 28th Dec at Talk:Rape_during_the_Kashmir_conflict#Please_notice_the_discretionary_sanctions_on_this_article. Yet to be wrapped up. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
I also left a comment on the talkpage related to Kashmiri Sikhs and help needed in creating such an article if possible. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:08, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
hmm be careful, that user is known to harass others, User:Kautilya3 and myself have been targeted recently. --DBigXray 19:23, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

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@Dreamy Jazz: Thank you! And a very Merry Christmas and Happy New year to you too!! DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:38, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2018

Your GA nomination of Delhi War Cemetery

The article Delhi War Cemetery you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Delhi War Cemetery for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FR30799386 -- FR30799386 (talk) 17:21, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

FR30799386 thanks. Have submitted for CE review as per your recommendation and have made changes as per the GA review. Will update the other ones soon. Regards DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:45, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
BTW, your signpost article was a extremely good read. Keep contributing. — fr+ 07:18, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the comment!! :) I have written one more article for The Signpost, a total of two now. (The Signpost got 380,000+ views in 2018; sounds reasonable enough, right?) I look forward to contributing more. Thanks again. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:35, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments at the Teahouse related to COI, followup

@Cullen328: @David notMD: I did not reply or acknowledge the replies that you all wrote for my question at the Teahouse related to Conflict of Interest. The section is now archived, so I wasn't sure if it was appropriate to reply on an archived section or not.
I have created a new COI section on my userpage. I will detail and phrase the COI section better as time passes. I also need to sort out COI for an article I created in 2013 People for Animals Uttarakhand. I only volunteered there in 2013.... At that time I was very new to Wikipedia and didn't even think about the COI aspect. I will clean up the page myself. Is that ok if I clean up the page myself, so I don't waste the time of other editors?
I also created Waste Warriors where I volunteered for a few hours on a couple of days in 2013. But I think there is no COI for this, does someone need to confirm this? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:34, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Just a side comment. According to the People for Animals website, People for Animals Uttarakhand doesn't function any longer. I had updated this in the infobox "The organisation is currently not functional". DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:42, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I suggest that in addition to the COI section on your own User page, you consider adding a COI declaration on the Talk pages of the articles you have created, have done or are doing major editing at, if you have been/are a volunteer for those organizations. If you were a founder or were/are an official at an organization (president, treasurer, etc.) then I suggest the more removed path to editing, i.e., suggesting edits at Talk so that a non-affiliated editor can decide to incorporate or not. David notMD (talk) 12:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@David notMD: Thanks for the reply. I will add "COI declaration on the Talk pages of the articles" accordingly. Thank you. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:02, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Recommend you include People for Animals. David notMD (talk) 13:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@David notMD: Thanks. I will be adding COI on People for Animals, People for Animals Uttarakhand and Gauri Maulekhi (a person who is associated with People for Animals). Also Waste Warriors and Jodie Underhill (a person who is associated with Waste Warriors).
Sadly I haven't founded any organization :D :D. So no problems in that aspect. But yes, "the more removed path to editing, i.e., suggesting edits at Talk so that a non-affiliated editor can decide to incorporate or not". Thanks for writing this. I don't think such a situation will arise, but if it does then I will take this way forward. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:10, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher), DTM if you do not mind some more 'unsolicited advice ;D, I will add some more. Yes as David suggested, please follow. Since you have already added content, May be you can go ahead and clean it up to make it neutral to the best of your ability and then place a Template:Request edit on the talk page, for others to review and change something if needed. In future, it is best to simply use Template:Request edit along with the content you would like to edit/update along with source and add it on the talk page, if it is worth adding, someone will certainly do it for you. Cheers. --DBigXray 14:52, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the unsolicited advice :D Will take it into consideration. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:29, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Meghalaya mining disaster. Thanks! Snowycats (talk) 07:12, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

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DYK for Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts

 On 29 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after its defeat in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1971, Pakistan formulated a military doctrine designed to "Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

The DYK progress was not possible without your immense help in improving the article. It is only fair if the credits for this DYK is shared with you. cheers. --DBigXray 10:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
You are welcome, our second DYK is already in pipeline. I hope we will have many more DYKs and GA collaborations in the upcoming new year. --DBigXray 11:30, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
DBigXray, one day at a time, one day at a time. :) As for GA's, i'm still waiting for my first for such a long time :D... DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:18, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes, no hurries. Surprising as it may sound, Even I have not gone for GA reviews despite gnoming for many years. So even I am waiting for my first. --DBigXray 13:54, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Well, then I beat you to it :D I have already submitted one article for a GA review.... though it is on hold just now. Yes there are no hurries and this isn't a competition. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 14:07, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
you added extra indent. Good luck on your GA reviews. Its not that I dont value GA reviews, I highly appreciate, but I consider factual accuracy and article layout to be of more importance than GA tag ( which I doubt readers other than some wikipedia editors even care about) As you know WP India articles need a lot of work to improve the factual accuracy so I never really focussed on GA reviews. Jokes aside, this is a competition I would never mind to be beaten at, since the real winners and beneficiaries are the readers. cheers. --DBigXray 19:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Lets focus on Crowd control in Jammu and Kashmir and improve it before it gets reviewed and comes on the main page--DBigXray 19:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

Speaking of GA's, I intend to nominate United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 for GA soon after I get back from my vacation in the New Year. Please give it a proof-read and let me know of any issues you see. Cheers, Kautilya3 (talk) 20:03, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

@Kautilya3: UNSC Res 47 is developed a lot! Will go through it soon!
@DBigXray: Yes, factual accuracy and other criteria are very important as compard to getting a GA tag. But the GA tag I think is aimed to cover these points. FA review too. But yes, I can understand what you are trying to say. An article should be good with or without a GA or FA review or tag. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 14:49, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
For some really good articles and even better images on the Commons. Keep up the good work; keep writing, keep inspiring. Cheers, -- Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
@Rsrikanth05: Thank you so much!!! :) I was going through your userpage too for the first time, some really good contributions and lots of edits....which you don't bother about now :D :D DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:21, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Vanity got the better of me in the initial days. :) --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
@Rsrikanth05: I don't think it is only vanity. For new users, having stuff on their Userpages helps let others users know who they are interacting with in a quicker way. Like I think you noticed my pictures on Commons just because it was mentioned on my userpage right? So having stuff on the userpage also has a practical usage. It only becomes a problem when users start focusing on edit count more, and less on the quality of those edits. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 14:45, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

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Adding extra indents

Hi DTM, I see you frequently skipping 2 indents instead of 1, while you reply. Any special reason ? lets follow WP:INDENT and add 1 extra indent for one reply and not 2. it makes the thread look bad and we run out of indents very soon. Small thing but needs to be taken care of. Editing someone else's indents is not appreciated so why do it in the first place. --DBigXray 19:16, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Opps. Whose indent did I edit??? Totally by mistake, I'm not even sure why or when that happened. And yes, will stop adding two or more indents, I was just doing that for clarity. (Will keep it to 1 and use more only in special extra-judicial cases. (jk)) DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:22, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
No no, You didnt edit anyones indent but regularly add extra indent to your own comment. And to fix that someone will have to edit your indent which should not be done. I haven't done it. Just try adding only 1 and appreciate the smooth curve the thread creates.   --DBigXray 19:25, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:27, 30 December 2018 (UTC)

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Your Post for DYK

You just posted and pinged me on Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics instead of Talk Vikram Sood. Please move to Talk Sood, if it wasn't intentional. Normally WT:IN should only be used if you need wider feedback from the Users, for this case Talk Wikram sood should be sufficient. --DBigXray 12:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

But then I did want wider feedback? I mentioned that. I also needed help understanding if the 5x criteria is just related to the number of bytes as I asked. So I should just tag someone on the talk page you think? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: Or should I just nominate the DYKs myself and get over with it? :D DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:14, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
I also wasn't sure if you would be interested again since I'm pinging you a lot and don't want to bother anyone too much. So that's why it wasn't directly on the talk page. Sort of confused I guess. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:17, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
regarding the question of whether it is fit for DYK or not (5x criteria) Wikipedia talk:Did you know would appear to be a better place since they have the DYK experts over there. yes, I am interested, that should be the ready assumption for me unless I explicitly say no. I would encourage you to remove your post from WT:IN since it may be considered spamming/ WP:CANVASing. If you want more feedback u can use Template:Please See--DBigXray 12:20, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: Hmm, this can't fall into WP:CANVASing right?... since no one "benefits" really from posting it on the noticeboard. This is like messaging people to vote in the arbitration committee elections, but not telling them who to vote for. It is only like asking for opinions, but not asking directly related to what opinion is sought. You still think I should shift it? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:25, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
DYK nominations do need votes and review. yes, please shift from India talk to Sood Talk. Please only ask the question about 5x on Talk:DYK. Imagine the mess on Talk:India if every Indian wikipedian starts posting there for DYKs. oh and BTW, I forgot to mention that WT:IN automatically gets notified if you nominate an article on WP:INDIA for DYK or GA/ FA etc. --DBigXray 12:30, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
I deleted the content at India talk page. Added it to Sood. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:15, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: Hey, I was also rushing this Sood DYK i think because I will be on a Wikipedia break from tomorrow for sometime. Not too long I hope. It was really fun interacting. All the best with everything on Wikipedia DBX!! :D DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:35, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Hmm this DYK is stuck for the exact reasons that KT3 had prophesied. It is clear to me that he has cast his badluck charm on this dYK  . what is your opinion on starting a book article. I think we should wait for some more time, let more book reviews and criticisms get published and then start a book article. for now just the author's article should do for the DYK. if and when the book article is created, we can possibly use ALT2 or 3 as well. User_talk:Yoninah#Second_opinion_request suggested double hook, but i can;t think of a reasonable double hook. the postal service DYK is clearly more interesting than any of these boring political BS. thoughts ? --DBigXray 17:43, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Delhi War Cemetery

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Delhi War Cemetery has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the rest of the GAN.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 14:01, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Thank you for the copy edit! Thanks. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 00:03, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Note

over Template:Did you know nominations/Crowd control in Jammu and Kashmir. Thanks, WBGconverse 14:20, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@ I have left comments at Talk:Delhi War Cemetery/GA1<< FR 12:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

The Vox Kashmir

I added archived versions of the two references to the article The Vox Kashmir as well as an archive of the Vox Kashmir itself. You may want to revisit Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Vox Kashmir. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 05:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) welcome back Eastmain, glad to see you back in action at AfD. This is again a bad AfD vote from you, Eastmain you may want to revisit WP:ORGCRITE, passing mentions and trivial coverage don't count while deciding notability of company. even WP:NWEB is not met here. --DBigXray 06:00, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Delhi War Cemetery

The article Delhi War Cemetery you nominated as a good article has failed  ; see Talk:Delhi War Cemetery for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of FR30799386 -- FR30799386 (talk) 14:01, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 31 January 2019

University of Farmington scam

Hi. I suggest you nominate it for WP:DYK? Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:19, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@MSGJ: Yes, I had also considered the same after withdrawing it from ITN. I do have six more days to nominate it, that's why I hadn't done it immediately. Anyone else can nominate it too... But thanks for the message and I will be sure to nominate it soon if no one else does :) DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@MSGJ: The angel of the north!!!!!! I've been there as a kid more than once... :D... vague memories but good memories....DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
University of Farmington merged into University of Farmington scam. I am still not sure about "scam," but there is now less likelihood of confusion with University of Farmington Maine. David notMD (talk) 21:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Vikram Sood

Hello, I have noted some concerns at Template:Did you know nominations/Vikram Sood. Please comment at that template. Thank you. Flibirigit (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

@Flibirigit: Hello. Yes I did expand the article but I am not part of the nomination of this DYK. I would like to stay away from this particular DYK. Is that alright? I have no problem though if others continue the nomination process... that's how it works right? Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:27, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@Flibirigit:, the nomination was by DBigXray. I wanted to try and be a part of this DYK, but I am staying away due to my own reasons, simple reasons like fatigue, which I have nearly got over but still needs a bit of time. Expanding the article took a lot of effort :D DBigXray will surely reply and take it forward as he sees best, since he did nominate it. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:31, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
If you do not want to follow up on the nomination that is fine. Would you mind posting your comment on the nomination page instead of here? Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 19:32, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Done, regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 19:43, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
  • I am following up on this. --DBigXray 15:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
If you wish to follow up, please comment at the nomination page instead of an individual talk page. It will not go forward without comments on its page. Flibirigit (talk) 14:15, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
Flibirigit Sorry for the late reply, I was busy elsewhere. I would post my comment on the DYK page but before I do that, I would like to understand your opinion on some of these points that I am thinking about related to DYK length eligibility criteria.
  • The article version before the expansion had 730 characters (of readable prose) in Bio section. and 106 in Publications. (using this tool)
  • The article as it stands right now has 4949 characters over all. (almost 7x expansion overall) (1744 characters (2.5x expansion) in Bio plus 3203 characters in Publications)
  • So the assertion by Flibirigit that The five-time expansion of the article to qualify for DYK, is solely based on the book, rather than the person is not accurate.
  • As User:Yoninah also suggested the article as it stands is eligible for DYK. So I believe based on this we should just move ahead with what we have since it is eligible.
  • regarding the suggestion of separate article for the book, possibly when we have more critical reviews from reliable publishers in media, then we can start a fresh book article. currently the coverage has very less critical component and mostly deals with book excerpts as is expected for a newly released book on a topic of epionage that catches public attention.
  • I also seriously gave thoughts to writing double hook but could not think of a good one that can include both. The current hook looks good and interesting to me, so if you can change your mind and agree to pass it we should go ahead with this. --DBigXray 09:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
I repeat my previous comment: If you wish to follow up, please comment at the nomination page instead of an individual talk page. It will not go forward without comments on its page. Flibirigit (talk) 15:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
alright, I have copied the same to the DYK page. regards. --DBigXray 21:55, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Don't sweat the Gallery fracas

 
Mini barnstar (2nd or subsequent award): keep up the good work

You're doing a great job as a Signpost contributor. I hope you don't have any regrets over your contributions. Remember, it was me who approved the Gallery for publication – no blame should fall your way, even if there's some slight controversy there. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I have closed the MfD as Keep+withdrawn. DTM, may I suggest you to also seek feedback from your sworn enemies like me who are hell bent on deleting and merging your articles. I will probably give you a faster quicker release from the misery of slow and painful torture by more friendlier critics.[sarcasm] Now stop being a sulking kid and get on with your work. We have DYKs to save.
Bri, The first thing that came to my mind on seeing the gallery was the same thought that has led to the controversy, perhaps the article body could have clarified this in some way. The pics are beautiful, no doubt but as they say diversity is the keyword these days. cheers. --DBigXray 05:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Bri, thank you for the comment. I will continue to try and give good contributions to The Signpost. (thanks for the mini barnstar :D too) DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, yes, as a sworn enemy lol :D, the best is for me to get back to work. Thanks for the comment. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:20, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, I have thanked JohnBod for his comment, and as you have pointed out, requested the newsroom to add a line explaining your point "perhaps the article body could have clarified this in some way".... with addition of the blurb, "A tour of some of the world's greatest memorials courtesy the Prime Minister of India" or anything suitable. Thank you for the good advice once again DBX. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 20:40, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
For your contribution to the signpost. It was high quality and thank you for supporting our local newsletter. It's always great to see the vast amount of content we have here from different angles. Thanks for your work Tom (LT) (talk) 04:34, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Tom (LT), thank you. I will try and contribute some more good ones hopefully. Would love to see an article from you too :) :D. Thank you again. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:54, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Writer's Barnstar
A token of appreciation for your immense contributions to the encyclopedia particularly in the India - Pakistan topic area  << FR (mobileUndo) 04:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
FR, thank you. Will try and continue to do so patiently. And although the Delhi War Cemetery review could not be completed just now, thank you for taking time to consider it and raise some wonderful points. Maybe in the future I will be able to develop it more and try again. Thanks and Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:53, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Atrocious refnames

How can you work with Atrocious refnames such as ( ref name=":1" ) and so on ? Please type the name of the publication or part of the title in the refname which can make it easier for humans to work with.--DBigXray 13:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I think they are automatically generated by the visual editor. Does the visual editor have a way to give names to refs? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:29, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Kautilya3, no; but fortunately, it's a part of the CWL19. So, we can expect it to be live within a year or so:-) WBGconverse 16:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
DBX, just curious, where did I overlook this - "( ref name=":1" )". Irrespective of the visual editor or source editor, I am trying to ensure I work on my references better and overlooked this. I also archive pages now and add the archived version too myself as a normal routine on some pages. Thanks for the follow-up Kautilya3 and WBG. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:33, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I found it here, if you don't recall using these, then probably these refs are added by the bots during refill or citation bot --DBigXray 17:36, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes. On the page I do notice the (ref name=":1", ref name=":0") now. I created this page in the visual editor and this happened automatically when I was using one citation in multiple places, copy pasting the "[1]" to another location as needed. I didn't realise this was an issue for others. I checked on another page I have created. Same case. Are you suggesting I switch from the visual editor to the source editor to sort these out with better names in all cases? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
ok, I dont use visual editor. I guess you should use what you are most comfortable with. In my case the source editor does not frighten me and I find it more comfortable to have the power to see things as how they are actually on the page. U can try the source editor and then click the Pen shaped icon "SYNTAX HIGHLIGHTING" so that it is easier to read. then follow the steps at User:DBigXray/ref to add a ref with ref names. (Visual editor was added to allow more users who are not familiar with markup and HTML tags to be able to contribute, so it has less features, (as WBG noted above)--DBigXray 04:43, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK

I think this DYK is a clear victim of stalling tactics and BATTLE behavior (which is kind of expected knowing the topic area), lets just wait for a reviewer to review and comment, I don't see any genuine concerns here, just a couple of folks who want to crap on the DYK page for cheap thrills. so lets just be patient. --DBigXray 16:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

DBigXray, yes. I just felt I needed to state one comment calmly on both the rename section and the DYK. I will wait it out now until another reviewer come. No rush. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:30, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Did You Know that your recent comments calling for consensus on the article title has been misrepresented at the wP:ANI to state that there is no consensus for the current title which is why you have proposed new titles ? --DBigXray 10:26, 9 February 2019 (UTC)

Related to a new AFC draft... Media in Jammu and Kashmir

I would request anyone interested to glance over Media in Jammu and Kashmir, currently an AFC draft and submission. The page covers topics such:

It is based on articles such as such as Media of Syria, Media in New York City and Media coverage of North Korea etc. Should the page stay at its current location, or change to Media of Jammu and Kashmir? ("of" or "in"?) Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:25, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

A lot of pages can even be considered for merging into this such as Rising Kashmir, Radio Sharda, The Vox Kashmir (currently AFD) and Ocean of Tears etc etc... DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:00, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Vox has been deleted, there is absolutely no need to merge or redirect non notable websites so as to provide PROMO. lets stick to the ones with significant coverage only. This draft doesn't even mention DD Koshur. The coverage by Public channels is completely lacking and the article is suffering from recentism. The criticism section is already unduly large. Once it comes to the main page, more and more criticism content will be added so as to convert it to an WP:ATTACKPAGE. --DBigXray 11:34, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Peacebuilding in Jammu and Kashmir

 On 4 February 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Peacebuilding in Jammu and Kashmir, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that cases against 9,700 Kashmiri youth in India were withdrawn by the government as part of its "healing touch" policy for peacebuilding in Jammu and Kashmir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Peacebuilding in Jammu and Kashmir. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Peacebuilding in Jammu and Kashmir), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 4 February 2019 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019

 
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pelting

Do you know about Sangbaaz association. [1] --DBigXray 07:46, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

I have heard of a couple though more in an informal social media sort of way. I am yet to watch the video. Thanks. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:31, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Zoom to t=433 seconds. not sure why the link is not working. Please consider to create that page if you feel it is notable. --DBigXray 06:36, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, it is interesting how they (WION) have coupled "Sangbaaz Association" together with Hibul and Lashkar. Epic in a way. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
indeed which is why I shared it. 😋😀. If not a seperate article it needs a section at stone pelting article. --DBigXray 08:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, well, I did create a small section already on the page - Stone_pelting_in_Kashmir#Sangbaaz_Association_posters. I am yet to expand it with more information about the Association itself rather than just one incident related to their posters. And as you wrote, maybe even an even an article. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 February 2019

Has a nuclear power ever surrendered without using their nuclear weapons?

I was going through the Wikipedia page " Mutual assured destruction / Nuclear Deterrence " and found that the page does not answer this question well - Has a nuclear power ever surrendered before using their nuclear weapons? What circumstances will cause this?

Can someone please help direct me to reading material for this question so that the Wikipedia page can also be updated. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

"Has a nuclear power ever surrendered before using their nuclear weapons?" Depends on what you mean by surrender. If by surrender you mean the capitulation of leadership like Japan and Germany in World War2 then No. that is yet to happen. If you mean surrender as in accept defeat and pull out there are examples like Afghanistan (USSR), Vietnam(US) and now Afghanistan (US). What circumstances will cause this? MAD is the driving force for such actions.--DBigXray 10:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for University of Farmington

 On 1 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article University of Farmington, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the University of Farmington (logo pictured) was a fake university set up by the United States Department of Homeland Security as a part of an undercover operation to expose immigration fraud? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/University of Farmington. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, University of Farmington), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

  • DBigXray, it is interesting how this DYK hook got 12,624 views in 12 hours at the rate of 1,052 per hour and that it was the sixth most viewed DYK of Feb 2019. Thanks for following up with this article and WBG who followed up with the review. Also, I am glad that the wine glasses are empty in the picture (as far as I can make out) :D. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 12:42, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Indeed. Our most successful DYK thus far, which obviously calls for a celebration. The empty glass is a tactical choice, since you haven't disclosed it yet, you may fill it up with whatever your favourite poison is. --DBigXray 13:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Overreaction

Dude you are way ovrreacting on this DYK Nom. The reviewer has expressed concerns. We should be looking at how to resolve the concerns and not to go and AfD it. I feel that the problems can be fixed and the DYK can proceed. but first AfD has to be withdrawn. Please provide your confirmation to withdraw the AfD nom. --DBigXray 05:43, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry. But the AFD nomination is serious. If the result of the AFD is KEEP... the article can stay of course and the DYK can proceed. I will stay away from this article for another month since I seem to be over-reacting on it and can't take the time to give proper detailed replies as I have done in certain difficult pages before. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 06:03, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
it is sad that you feel that way. There are two ways to deal with this problem, constructive way and theatrical way. If you have a lack of time, I can still take it forward. You have afded it without giving me a chance to try the constructive way. Kindly withdraw the AfD nom and let me take it forward. --DBigXray 08:48, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray, kindly carry on with the article as you see fit. The AFD has been closed. As I wrote, I will stay away from the article for at least a month, maybe more since I am not able to contribute in a constructive way with this particular article for the time being. I should have written this before the "overreaction" rather than after, but anyway, now I have. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:17, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

DTM on another Wiki Break

‹The template Vacation is being considered for merging.› ‹The template Holiday is being considered for merging.› 

DYK nomination of The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace

  Hello! Your submission of The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan, I have added the infobox. Dont want to step on your shoes but if you add me as a co - nom in the DYK then I can take it forward while you are away. --DBigXray 11:28, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
I tried looking for the place to add you as a co-nom in the original DYK nom page, but I can't seem to find the code where I need to add the name. Do I just write a comment? You can either direct me to how I should add you or you could do it yourself. I have no problem with anyone else, you, taking it forward while I am away from Wikipedia again for sometime and will be editing much less. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
DBigXray I added you. Done. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:45, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
You will need to add
* {{DYKmake|The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace|DBigXray|subpage=The Spy Chronicles: RAW, ISI and the Illusion of Peace}}
At the DYK Nom Page below a similar template with your name to complete this correctly. You can do it whenever u get time. regards.--DBigXray 13:29, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Added the temp with this edit hopefully at the correct location. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 17:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
yes, it is done. I learnt 2 weeks back that DYK NOM pages do not need to be moved, even if the page is moved. And If it is moved, all the links need to be corrected like this. A DYK regular taught me this after I moved a DYK NOM page (Sood's book) and now I am teaching this to you :D --DBigXray 17:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

info-box image for National war memorial, New Delhi, India

Which one do you think will be best for the info-box ?


Eatcha (talk) 10:16, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Eatcha, thanks for taking out the time to write this. But when I had removed the image you had added to the infobox of National War Memorial (India) and written in the edit summary to discuss on the talk page I meant the talk page of Talk:National War Memorial (India) so that other editors who watch the page could also be part of the discussion if they wanted.
I am shifting this section you added here to the talk page of Talk:National War Memorial (India) and will continue there. Regards.DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:01, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019

 
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A barnstar for you!

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Presented to you for writing high-quality articles. Thank you for your contributions.  samee  converse  20:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

DYK for The Spy Chronicles

 On 14 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Spy Chronicles, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that despite being a co-author of The Spy Chronicles, Asad Durrani was not allowed to attend the launch of the book? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Spy Chronicles. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Spy Chronicles), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 12:01, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your note, I will look at the article more carefully. I have seen many of your contributions and I would like to acknowledge my appreciation. I have a lot of interest in the history of Kashmir ( e.g. Buddhism in Kashmir), Uttarakhand and the nearby region, and am planning to create a couple of a few articles in next year or so. I work slowly. I look forward to seeing more of your contributions.Malaiya (talk) 01:35, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Full protection...

....I just read your question at the Teahouse; to start off, although I suppose you have read it, have a look at our protection policy. Full protection is essentially limited to articles which experience edit-warring. Articles about recent events like terrorist attacks usally get high traffic, but rarely see real vandalism. Also, fully protecting said articles would curtail the possibilities of the community to keep the article actuial and factual: IPs and non-admin editors do about 99,9% of the edits in general, so keeping them out would not do the article any good, and it also goes very much against our 5 pillars. Cheers and happy editing. Lectonar (talk) 12:53, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Lectonar, I had commented generally at the teahouse as well as the talk page after I removed words from the lead such as - "white supremacist" and "neo nazi". (I don't have concerns with those words themselves, but the sources backing the inclusion and that too in the lead without much in the main body and the edits seeming like the stance was being pushed without discussing it on the talk page and there was more than one person etc etc) The words were put back very fast. That was my only edit on the actual article. For sometime all the related words were removed again by others... until "right-wing terror" popped up back in the lead now followed by "white supremacist" again. I just had hesitations attaching these words so fast... especially just because of one video at the time even if they were in secondary sources but I guess there are more sources now so that justifies it and in these two hours a lot have happened. But enough editors are on this now so I will just see where the lead ends up finally....
Anyway... I am turning my gaze back to other articles which need attention too, no shortage of them!
Yes, I have been through Wikipedia:Protection policy, but will see it again. The table makes things very clear. The five rules are really good. I have seen this. But they are sometimes really confusing in theory and seem to work only in practice :D not in theory. You need editing experience to understand which I am getting the hang of... but when you read - Wikipedia has no firm rules... Wikipedia:Ignore all rules... then someone comes up with another policy WP:CONSENSUS or (anyone can use) and when you actually try to use all the policies for making a decision, you sort of start going round in circles with different policies clashing against one another.. which I guess is the point... the balance... In practice this works, mainly because of the experience of the editors in how to apply the pillars to their everyday editing. Maybe there is a word that the five pillars page could include somewhere - WP:PATIENCE. Patience in Wikipedia's ability to adapt, patience with letting process take due course etc, patience even if mistakes are made. This is me just speaking my mind. Don't take this particular aspect of changing the five pillars page too seriously :D I appreciate the comments. Whenever people teach me things on Wikipedia this I take very seriously since that in turn affects my own behaviour here and how I deal with articles and other editors. Thanks DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 13:34, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
Just three more links for you: assume good faith and assume the assumption of good faith. And of course this. Keep up the good work. Lectonar (talk) 13:57, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Crowd control

May I please request you to focus on getting the DYK up and running first before you jump into other issues. lets first complete the several suggestions put forward by the reviewer before getting into the nitpicking whether a security official's quote is needed or not. Just setting priorities on first things first. regards. --DBigXray 15:46, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

DBigXray :D ok. I was trying to get back into the article slowly. "the several suggestions put forward by the reviewer" are on my mind, very much on my mind. They need to be done one by one, line by line. I am aware. This does not mean general issues can't be fixed at the same time. This quote covers three whole lines and is a very very strong quote which has also been on my mind a lot. Anyway, I guess the issues in the DYK nom are a priority, but not too difficult to sort out. Just needs direct action. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:51, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: I have started addressing the DYK points raised in a new section on the page. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:33, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Talkback

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DYK for Vikram Sood

 On 17 March 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Vikram Sood, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in India, a postal officer became a spymaster? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Vikram Sood. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Vikram Sood), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 01:52, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Chameli Devi Jain Award for Outstanding Women Mediapersons

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Media in Jammu and Kashmir has been accepted

Media in Jammu and Kashmir, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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DYK for Shah Faesal

 On 20 April 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Shah Faesal, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Shah Faesal, the first Kashmiri to top the Indian civil services exam, has become a politician? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Shah Faesal. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Shah Faesal), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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DYK for The Unending Game

 On 2 May 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article The Unending Game, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in his book The Unending Game, Indian spymaster Vikram Sood explains that the real world of espionage is less like a James Bond movie and more like a George Smiley novel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/The Unending Game. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, The Unending Game), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)


Wikibreak

Appears that you are on a wikibreak, I will be taking forward any ongoing Noms that you have, so that it can proceed as originally intended. --DBigXray 12:23, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

@DBigXray:I've been busy. Sorry that I haven't been able to follow-up. I also intend to shift to much lighter topics once I get time and stay away from JK for some more time. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 14:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
Welcome back. Hope the wikibreak was fruitful. Glad to hear back from you. No worries on lack of follow up. The DYKs were taken care of. --DBigXray 09:35, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Chameli Devi Jain Award for Outstanding Women Mediapersons

Hi, I have nominated this list for FLC after several edits with you as a co-nominator. I hope you don't mind. Cheers! Yashthepunisher (talk) 10:17, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Good work on improving the article. The FLC seems to be going well. Thanks!DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 08:54, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

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