User talk:Coren/Archives/2009/May

AV Vegas being defined then deleted.

Please allow AV Vegas to be defind as it were. I manage the company and no part of the definition was copywritten as I am the av vegas website author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Happy Customer (talk • contribs) 03:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

WT:RFAR

You've probably seen this, but, in case you haven't, Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration#Roles_of_drafting_arbitrators discusses you. [[Sam Korn]] ^(smoddy) 12:05, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Advanced Market Research Group

Dear Sir,

I have added an article Advanced Market Research Group, i am the original owner of the the text and the webpage http://www.amrgindia.com, i am happy to allow reuse to the text without conditions under GFDL. Hence i would request you to kindly allow the article stay in the entire form,

Thanking you,

Your truly, owner www.amrgindia.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunnalamrg (talk • contribs) 11:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC) Kunnalamrg (talk) 11:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Brian Olsen Page

Good afternoon - I am writing to say that as the Creative Technical Advisor at Art in Action, I participated in the writing of Brian Olsen's bio and have permission to reuse the information from [http://brianolsenart.com our Art in Action Website]. Here is our copyright information from our web site.

Copyright 1999-2009 - All Rights Reserved - Brian Olsen - Art in Action

I thought I referenced correctly - but am willing to adjust the information in any way that I need to.

````joerider —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joerider (talk • contribs) 21:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your assistance —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joerider (talk • contribs) 21:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

I am attempting to reload the page - with new citations and references. Perhaps I have done it more accurately this time. Please let me know. Again, thank you. 13:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)joeRider —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.215.242 (talk)

Allston Street (MBTA station)

Hi, your bot, CorenSearchBot left me a template regarding Allston Street (MBTA station). I used a standard format for creating subway station Articles which may be where the confusion is coming from. This article is extreamly simmilar to Griggs Street/Long Avenue (MBTA station) (another article which I created) but it is not a word for word copy. I do not believe I did anything wrong but if I did please let me know.--Found5dollar (talk) 23:49, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

About the article Public Health Music

Hi!

I'm the author of the article [1] and i admit that the text is taken from our website. I permit the use of the text on the wikipedia article under the GFDL license.

To verify my claim please mail me at my wikipedia email.

jens(at)publichealthmusic.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenslinell (talk • contribs) 11:00, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The J&S case

Hi Coren,

I hope this isn't inappropriate. I fear some of the evidence may have gone ignored by those who have already voted, so I urge you to read the evidence discussion page and perhaps also a couple of the talk pages from the relevant period before you vote. Apologies if you have done so already. MeteorMaker (talk) 22:55, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

with regards removal of MMKcollege page on blogger

with regards removal of MMKcollege page on blogger mmkplacements.com is also maintained by the college and they have there main website which is mmkcollege.in and a blog which is mmkcollege.co.cc ( which i am maintaining )

please release the MMk college webpage again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eumakant (talk • contribs) 09:35, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Leyly Matine-Daftary

We are the authors of the article and we understand that the text is taken from our website www.xerxesfinearts.com. We own the copyright of the website, so this should not be a problem. We will add reference as well.

Thank you for your attention. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xerxes London (talk • contribs) 07:40, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

QI (G series)

I recently got a message about the creation of QI (G series) and worries about copyright. I actually took the material from QI (F series) and this is used as the basis of all the QI series. If anything, I believe that the article claiming the copyright problems took the material from Wikipedia. ISD (talk) 19:19, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Modern Ghana and your Comments

Modern Ghana

I have full permission to use File:Modern Ghana.Hasanuzzaman Shemul.jpg or others any information from Modern Ghana for wikipedia article Modern Ghana.

From:"editor" <editor@modernghana.com>

To:hatashe9009@yahoo.com

Saturday, May 9, 2009 2:49 AM

Dear Hasanuzzaman Talukdar SHEMUL,

Thanks so much for creating a profiile in Wikipedia for modernghana.com we are very happy for that help. I have just made changes to the owners we are only two bright and me , i would have been happy if you could manage it for us and ask for any information which could help you complete it, i would be happy to feed you with it

Roger

General Manager.

Hasanuzzaman T Shemul (talk) 14:18, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Inna Heifetz

I am the author of the article and owner of the website in question (Sonora Productions). I own the copyright of the website and its contents, so the same text appearing in the Wikipedia page is not a problem. Please, let me know what I should do to avoid this problem in the future.

Inna Innagliksberg (talk) 00:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

The Hole

I made sure that it wasn't the same as "Out of My Bones" first before i created the article. I did a recheck. It shouldn't be the same. Ryanbstevens (talk) 22:53, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Naheere Article

Your bot reported copyright issues. I'll fix it. Sorry:)SchnitzelMannGreek. 01:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to set up a page about my career

Hi - I've been trying to post an article about my career - Im a singer, and I have written the text on my website, so I used this text but it was automatically taken off - I'm trying to ask when will it be left on - I don't really have the time to be searching and reading many articles on Wiki and every page has another page then another page to read.

How do I go about posting an article without it being taken off

Thank you

Niamh Parsons 11th May 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by NiamhP (talk • contribs) 17:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Please see WP:BIO, WP:COI, and WP:NOT.  Frank  |  talk  19:03, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot on Wikipedia in Portuguese

Hello, Coren! I suggested here for "import" your bot to the Wikipedia in Portuguese and the reaction of the local community can see that your bot will be welcome. You can bring him here? We await your response here. Thank you! HyperBroad (talk) 16:52, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Arbitration poke

The case Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Aitias/Proposed decision has a remedy that is hung at 7-7-1 with your vote the only one outstanding. Perhaps you may wish to take a position so that the matter will be closed. Stifle (talk) 11:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Quoting (and editing) text under free license

Hi, while writing an article about a software, PyBlosxom, I got caught by Coren bot. The problem is that the text I imported the software description from the software's README file, which is released under BSD license. I am not sure if it's legal under Wikipedia's policy (I assume it should). I did tried to add <ref> but it doesn't seem to help. FranklinPiat (talk) 16:24, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Just wanted to point out in case you'd missed it that I've already left you a note about this matter both at your talk page and at the talk page of the article itself. I've written for feedback on the compatibility of the licenses. --Moonriddengirl <sup>(talk)</sup> 16:27, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

List of King County Metro bus routes

The source where this article was taken from (http://seattletransitwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_Metro_Bus_Routes) is GFDL licensed, see bottom of page for copyright notice. Oranviri (talk) 23:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Anuschka Handbags

I modified this article and re-wrote much of the text and itentified resources. However, the page got deleted since i forgot to leave a "talk" note here. I hope I have successfuly complied with the requirements this time. KrazyShopper (talk) 19:57, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Applied Research - a case of splitting

Applied research and Applied Research, yes, the contents and meaning thereof is the same except that 'R' of Research is capital in the second case. I think an automatic internal redirection can serve the purpose better. Ib40 (talk) 23:39, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: DARRIN MAHARAJ the material that is under question was written by me and infact was copied to that empire website without my permission - there is absolutely no reason to delete or edit the material on the page because I am the author. - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobayashiii (talk • contribs) 22:00, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Applied Research

That is fair enough. Redirection to Applied research is correct. ThanksIb40 (talk) 17:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Everything okay?

You've been inactive since the start of May. Is everything okay? If you're watching here, check in and let us know you're all right. ;-) Regards, AGK 14:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

I am. Real life issues forced me to switch focus for a bit, but I should return to full activity during the weekend. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 22:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Good. — Rlevse • Talk • 22:15, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, we were getting worried. Good to hear you'll be back soon. :-) --MZMcBride (talk) 23:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Excellent; glad to hear it. AGK 10:32, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

For those of you who did not know: my brief absence was caused by things going right in my real life. I had lost my previous employment due to economic compressions, and had to focus away from Wikipedia while I was reshuffling my schedule and habits around a new job. Thank you all for your concern. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 14:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Peter Hocken

Made changes accordingly! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lastenglishking (talk • contribs) 15:01, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Mobility Advice Line

I have just submited an article about Mobility Advice Line. My name is Brynn Tudor and I am the Managing Director of the charity. I have submitted the article from our main website which I created. The submited article does not break any copyright laws or break any other law due to myself being the Managing Director of Mobility Advice Line (Registered Charity 1114973).

Any questions please email me or telephone me:

brynn@mobility-advice.org.uk 0121 246 9150

Many thanks

Brynn Tudor Kingtibby (talk) 09:09, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Please read the guide to requesting and formalizing permission to use copyrighted works on Wikipedia. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 14:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Voting

Hi Coren. Do you want to be listed as active on all cases you haven't voted on yet or just the ones that haven't entered voting yet? [[Sam Korn]] <sup>(smoddy)</sup> 17:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and good to see you back :-) [[Sam Korn]] <sup>(smoddy)</sup> 17:51, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to be voting on all open cases today and tomorrow as I catch up with the evidence. You can put me as active on everything that's open, thanks. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 17:54, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, does this include Ryulong, which has a motion to close? [[Sam Korn]] <sup>(smoddy)</sup> 18:24, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, give me a minute to take a quick look to see if my vote would be critical on any proposal. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 18:40, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

No, don't bother— there is no reason to delay closing this case now. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 18:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry, I messed up. Lucas Duke (talk) 23:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Shrawley & Castlemoreton

Hi, there is no intended duplication. I have created over 30 new stubs within the Villages in Worcestershire category. Until I or somebody gets round to expanding them, they all have essentially the same basic information: infobox, CP template, and opening paragraph. Only the the name of the locality changes. --Kudpung (talk) 09:19, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

G'day Coren

A gigantic boob, the Grand Teton

Hope you're well - I just noticed the arbcom statement about sam, and dropped a note into the talk page about it - I mentioned you by name, I'm afraid, and sort of once again mentioned that I thought you were behaving like a gigantic boob in opposing a sensible, albeit not-really-getting-the-job-done-as-quickly-and-easily-as-you-could type statement. I'm sure you'll take solace from the fact that although this is indeed my heartfelt opinion, I also quite like the phrase 'gigantic boob' and don't need much encouragement to use it :-) cheers, Privatemusings (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Your obsession with lactating glands is well known, really.  :-) I'm sorry if my refusal to start burning crosses and hang a noose doesn't satisfy your thirst for blood, but I will never act "decisively" just for the sake of doing something.

I act according to what I feel is just, to the best of my abilities— never according to what I think people want to see. I'm certain we'd get cheers from the peanut gallery if we tarred and feathered Sam — if only because of schadenfreude — but that wouldn't make it any more fair. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 13:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure you lactate, Coren - and I'll refrain from making a childish pun on 'sucking'. Anywhoo.. I probably should note that I posted this note before your statement was public, but either ways, I'm surprised to see you compare your colleagues' actions to 'burning crosses and hang a noose' - that strikes me as unhelpful and hyperbolic - the actions of a boob. Privatemusings (talk) 00:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah, yes, hyperbole indeed. I would have expected you to recognize the rhetorical technique, given that you are one of its most fervent users. At any rate, and contrary to popular perception, the committee does not unfailingly speak in a single voice — accusations of cabalism notwithstanding — and I disagreed with the committee's choice of word in that statement feeling that it was unduly harsh. There is something to be said about the good of the committee, but I felt that in this case we were distancing ourselves too much from a former colleague despite his recently discovered failings. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 02:13, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

are we wiki-sparring, Coren? I sort of feel like we are, except you're all squishy.. you know.. like a boob ;-) - I don't really consider myself one given to hyperbole, but perhaps you could give me an example of what you mean - otherwise I'm afraid to me that sort of comes across as 'no you are' (a tried and tested riposte, to be sure!) - I'm certainly not criticising you for speaking your mind (more power to you!), I'm criticising your failure to support a sensible step forward, and also what you then said. You felt the statement was 'unduly harsh' - and you also described your actions as a "refusal to start burning crosses and hang a noose" - your inability to maintain a sense of balance, and your ability to vaguely obfuscate, conflate and confuse courtesy and responsibility are what, in my view, give you a boobish hue. Privatemusings (talk) 02:39, 25 May 2009 (UTC)it's to your credit, of course, that you're prepared to chat about this, though perhaps we've covered enough ground now... last word to you if you'd like it.... :-)

It may not be your reason for choosing to act that way, but perhaps you won't mind if I mention that that was what I (for one) wanted to see. At least, not knowing much about the situation, I find your statement calm, balanced and forward-looking. We don't punish, right? ☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:18, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

It's probably worth nothing noting that I also don't go out of my way to avoid doing things some may agree with. I think it'd be difficult to have any position that everyone would agree with, or disagree with. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 16:27, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

(Note Much Ado About Nothing#Noting). Well, it might be possible to find a position everyone would disagree with. ☺Coppertwig (talk) 16:31, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Bleh. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 16:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

(←) In my very humble opinion, your statement demonstrates that you've turned out to be an commendably considerate and prudent arbitrator. Markedly well done. — Aitias // discussion 17:00, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Macedonia 2

Hello Coren. A few words regarding your support for proposed remedies against me, in the Macedonia 2 case.

First of all, the SPA accusation is untrue. Rlevse wrote "SQRT5P1D2 is a Macedonia-focused single-purposed account", that "has been almost entirely been focused on editing a handful of Macedonia-related articles". As showed here, the vast majority of my article edits are not Macedonia-related. You can verify that yourself.

As for "meatpuppetry", you wrote that I brought "nationalistic supporters in order to subvert and destroy the editorial process", which is also not true. I'm not aware if you read all the facts. Anyway, one neutral public message, isn't "canvassing". Not to mention that in the same message, I condemn nationalism (I requested "no sarissas, the referee will show you a red card"; that means "be rational and leave nationalism outside of the field", as sarissas were weapons that ancient Macedonians took pride in). I also wrote that ChrisO's actions were not made "according to the regulations on neutrality and naming by using credible sources, such as academic ones". I condemned nationalism and asked for conformance to the regulations on neutrality, thus the accusations are unjustifiable.

In addition, as you can read in my response to Horologium, Wikipedia is not isolated from the rest of the Internet. Various blogs and forums reported about ChrisO's actions. Many added their nationalistic overtones, like "Macedonia is ours" and asked for support. Even TV stations reported about it! Is ChrisO the one to blame? Nobody is responsible for what others do and I certainly have nothing to do with what others may did.

If you have the time and want to examine the facts more closely, please do. Should you have any questions, please leave me a message. SQRT5P1D2 (talk) 16:05, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: York Toros

I am part of the York Toros organization and decided to create a York Toros page on Wiki... The organization has deep roots in to hockey in Toronto dating back to the WHA... Feel free to contact me if you have further concerns regarding the York Toros arcticle. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spattni (talk • contribs) 02:35, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Re: Mykayhlo Luchnik and Gergely Boros

1) FYI. Mykhaylo Luchnik and Mykola Zaichenkov are two different people, but won medals in the same events because they are teammates. This is common in canoe sprint events. The two references I have listed prove it. Chris (talk) 22:56, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

2) FYI. Gergely Boros and Gergely Gyertyános are two different people, but won medals in the same events because they are teammates. This is common in canoe sprint events. The two references I have listed prove it. Chris (talk) 20:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

About Lost in Blue (game)

There is a BAND called Lost in Blue, they've been around at least 5 years longer than the video game. Since "Lost in Blue" goes straight to the game, I made "Lost in Blue (game)" and copied all the info from the original site to there.

After that, I changed the "Lost in Blue" site to a redirect with links to the band and the game, but all these random bots or people deleted my entries and reverted everything back to the way it was, even though I didn't do anything wrong! Wikipedia is confusing enough for me as it is, how many people/robots do I have to ask/explain this to??1999blacklist666 (talk) 20:58, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi Coren, just thought I'd let you know I'm going to help this guy out. dottydotdot (talk) 21:41, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Renaming the articles

Hi,

I now edited the Tour section of Deep Purple, added full infos about Purple's 2 tours... I wanted to rename Rapture of the Deep Tour and name it Rapture of the Deep World Tour, as well as I wanted to rename In Rock Tour --->> In Rock World Tour. I didn't know how to rename the articles, thus I created new article In Rock World Tour, and copied/pasted content from In Rock Tour...

Why to rename??? Deep Purple has done tens of tours for 40 years of their career. some of them were particular tours (e.g Deep Purple European Tour, or Deep Purple Mexican Tour 1994 (which included only 3 shows and came up as the warm-up tour for the new guitarist Steve Morse).... this was what I wanted to say about particular/special tours. BUT everytime Deep Purple releases a new album, they go on a WORLD TOUR. e.g In Rock World Tour, Rapture of the Deep World Tour. This is why I wanted to rename those articles, please delete the previous articles called just Rapture of the Deep Tour... As you know, there's a difference between ordinary/special/particular tour and world tour...

Thanks for understanding :) btw, you can view the article AC/DC's Black Ice World Tour, it's called WORLD TOUR as well.

Kikonishvili (talk) 21:56, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Your note

Hi Coren, thanks for your note. If you could ask a bureaucrat to do it, that would be fine by me. SlimVirgin <sup>talk|contribs</sup> 10:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Done. — Rlevse • Talk • 11:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

SB

Re [2]. I'm puzzled as to how you can say "there is no suggestion that he has not acted as an arbitrator with diligence and neutrality during his tenure". I think it is entirely obvious that his votes during Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Geogre-William_M._Connolley were not neutral, and indeed invalid. I invite your further comment William M. Connolley (talk) 19:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually, an (admittedly cursory) inspection shows that he's voted both slightly in a direction consistent with his previous identity's spats and slightly in directions opposite them depending on the case. Given than none of his votes have been pivotal in any of the decisions, and that they are not egregiously biased, I'm willing to extend to him the same presumption that I hope everyone gives to all arbitrators: that we are all doing our best to be objective, neutral and fair.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have recused, but I also don't think he has displayed any significant bias nor campaigned "behind the scenes" to affect decisions any more than you would expect from each of us.

The short of it: I think he has simply honestly and sincerely attempted to turn over a leaf, but ended up doing it the wrong way. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 21:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

I am unable to agree with you. Indeed your response, in my opinion, calls into severe doubt your suitability as an arbitrator. You should be able to immeadiately see and clearly state that arbitration in a case with someone against whom you have started an RFC is obviously unacceptable, especially when you are doing so with that connection hidden. Your response, inevitably, strengthens the view that arbcomm is a club that will be gentle on its own William M. Connolley (talk) 21:30, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Err, it is obviously unacceptable. I'm not entirely certain why you seem to be under the impression that I've stated otherwise at any time. Or have you not noticed that, as a direct consequence, Sam no longer has a seat on the committee? — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 02:07, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

oh dear... it's lines like this 'I think he has simply honestly and sincerely attempted to turn over a leaf, but ended up doing it the wrong way.' that I believe william refers to as a 'response [which] , in my opinion, calls into severe doubt your suitability as an arbitrator'. I think the response is entirely consistent with my diagnosis of gigantic boob-dom (see a couple of threads up) - now whether or not that makes you unsuitable, or a good fit, for the arbcom rather depends on one's perspective.... Privatemusings (talk) 02:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I agree. Cool Hand Luke 18:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand how there is no suggestion that he has not acted as an arbitrator with diligence and neutrality during his tenure is compatible with it being obvious that he shouldn't have participated in certain cases William M. Connolley (talk) 11:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps an (imperfect) analogy would explain better. Say you have a surgeon who, while otherwise very skilled and with an excellent track record, was found to have the bad habit of sneaking his lunch in the OR. It's dangerous, he shouldn't have done that, whether somebody got hurt as a direct consequence or not. Obviously, that was unacceptable and he's going to be canned over this — but that does not suddenly "undo" the things he did right or what skills he might have as a surgeon; he doesn't retroactively becomes incompetent. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 12:00, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

(Perhaps a better way of describing our surgeon here would be "There is no indication he did not sincerely and honestly have his patient's health at heart despite having shown poor judgment in the matter"). — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 12:05, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Your analogy is badly incomplete. A better one would be: you are going for a life-threatening procedure, with an unknown death rate, such that the surgeon will not be blamed should you die. Unbeknownst to you, the surgeon has a violent dislike of you. If you did know, would you do your best to chose a different surgeon? Your wriggling here is becoming undignified. I think you should simply admit your error William M. Connolley (talk) 18:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

You're ascribing malice where I see only bad judgment. You are welcome to disagree and call my reasoning an "error", but your qualifications of wriggling imply that I'm attempting to step away from a position I no longer hold, which is not the case. If you truly believe that disagreeing with your evaluation of the situation makes me unsuitable as an arbitrator, that is also your prerogative — and you'll be able to express it next time I stand for election.

But if you are expecting me to trample over my ethics by withdrawing a statement I believe correct or by making one that goes against my principles in order to please you (or, for that matter, anyone else) then you will be disappointed. For that matter, I'm not much for the common "let's not commit to anything so nobody gets offended" method either. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 18:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Good Design Award

Hi, I edited the pageGood_Design_Award so that it complies with guidelines of Wiki. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junswiki (talk • contribs) 21:23, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

CorenSearchot Source

Hi Coren,

The URL link to the CorenSearchBot source code doesn't work anymore :

http://fisheye.ts.wikimedia.org/browse/marc/searchbot/trunk/csb3.pl?r=2

I'm wondering about making a freely publicly available version of the bot, to allow the public to check for copyright violations of their own work, can you provide the perl source code (or let me know where it can be found) ? Could you email it to chrismac at maxnet.co.nz

Thanks Chris

--Chris-nz (talk) 00:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, some time ago the public subversion repository was shuffled around and I haven't kept track because of my ArbCom duties. I'm planning on doing a cleanup of the code and put it on a website under my control over the weekend so that anyone who wants it can grab it. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 00:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good, where will the website be, or where will u post the information once ready ? Could be tricky to find otherwise ? ta --Chris-nz (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll update the bot's user page, and drop you a note. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 01:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

checkuser?

Hi Coren.

Can you take a look at these for me?

• Special:DeletedContributions/Uhnkkk
• Special:DeletedContributions/Squirepantz
• Special:DeletedContributions/Scanteel
• Special:DeletedContributions/Wicketts

Thanks!

J.delanoy<sup>gabs</sup><sub>adds</sub> 15:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, is this still relevant? I don't do checkusers from work since I have less control over the network's security. — Coren <sup>(talk)</sup> 21:34, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Scorched earth

http://academickids.com/encyclopedia/index.php/Scorched_earth is a mirror site. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Rejecting "Locus of dispute" as written

In the "Tang Dynasty" ArbCom case, the "locus of dispute" factfinding should be rejected as written.

A new, better locus of dispute should be adduced.

I write to encourage you to consider this when you vote, because the first and last sentences are fundamentally flawed.

NO to 1st sentence. The case originated when Teeninvestor rejected any and all inquiry relating to WP:V, WP:Burden and WP:RSUE, alleging vandalism and disruptive editing instead. This persistent confrontational strategy is endorsed and encouraged by those voting in support Newyorkbrad's locus of dispute. These votes effectively disregard Tenmei's locus, Teeninvestor's locus and, most importantly, Teeninvestor's restatment at Summarizing "more or less the entire dispute". This obfuscation marginalizes even the attempt to pursue a strategy of collaborative editing; and for this very practical reason, I could not disagree more with this sentence

NO to 3rd sentence. In the specific context of this case, it is procedurally unsound to adopt the expanded scope proposed by Teeninvestor and Caspian blue. One of the few areas of agreement acknowledged the initially limited focus of our case when it was opened. I could not disagree more with this sentence.

In support, I highlight a crucial fulcrum or pivot between "A" and "B" below:

• A. Tenmei's analysis here and here paraphrases Coren's measured language here:

"We appear to confront a small scale replica of what has occurred in other, wider disputes ... informed by a four-prong examination at each and every point of this escalating drama:

• 1. "What is the quality of the sources used by both sides in the dispute?
• 2. "What is the consensus of scholars in the field; and does the source reflect that consensus?
• 3. "Are the sources actually supporting the assertions for which they are cited?
• 4. "Are unsourced assertions being used?

"As others will know better than me, these four points are, unsurprisingly, at the center of most protracted disputes and are all violations of our core content policies, e.g., verifiability, no original research and neutrality."

• B. Teeninvestor's rejection is entire here and here:

"This guy is out of control, man." [emphasis added]

In this instance, Tenmei's paraphrase of Coren's moderating analysis was posted on the talk pages of all arguably interested participants at Talk:Inner Asia during the Tang Dynasty. The "out of control" accusatory phrasing was repeated in diffs on the talk pages of PericlesofAthens and Arilang1234. This suggests a deliberate strategy rather than a merely transient outburst.

In these pivotal diffs, Teeninvestor cannot feign to have misunderstood my writing. These are plainly Coren's paraphrased words; and yet, this modest effort to frame collaborative editing issues was immediately converted into a contrived hostile encounter. This destructive pattern is reflected ad nauseam on the evidence and workshop pages. Despite the cumulative attacks, the edit history confirms my participation focused on issues, but this outcome tells me clearly that I was wrong to take the high road.

In voting to support this awkward "spin", ArbCom's counter-intuitive judgment effectively affirms that the contributions of Teeninvestor and Caspian blue were above reproach and I was not.

This alchemy is difficult to digest. ArbCom rewards what is bad and denigrates what is good. --Tenmei (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Szalonna (bacon)

Hi. I got a bot tag re Szalonna (bacon) and Szalonna. FYI, I was in the midst of splitting the content of Szalonna, which now is a disambiguation page. --Una Smith (talk) 01:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Corensearchbot re BCGNIS material

Historical quotes in BCGNIS are not copyright and are in the public domain. In the case of Jarvis Pass, passages quoted were from American Alpine Journal and a bulletin of Natural Resources Canada, and duly cited (NRC materials are also in the public domain). Please "advise" your bot that quotations from BCGNIS are not in its turf, they are all public domain and, again, typically include citations themselves.Skookum1 (talk) 03:08, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Chhina clan

I have seperated Chhina clan from the geographical area of the same name. The existing article started off by describing the area the geographical area, and then refers to the clan. I have created a seperate article for the clan, to prevent the confussion.

--WALTHAM2 (talk) 18:05, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Guido

If you get a chance, take a look at this. Cool Hand Luke 22:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)