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Hi Chetsford, thank you being so quick in reviewing this submitted article - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Spirited_Bodies. As there's generally a long lead time for reviews I thought I might have to wait until April. I also appreciate you clarifying some specifics.

With regards to two references where 'Vimeo' was stated as the 'publisher', I've now corrected this on the advice of a Wikipedia IRC Help member so the publisher now shows the originator of the published material - namely the BBC and Sky News - rather than the platform that hosts these extracts. The platform is being used because the content was featured within news programmes that were several hours long, and contained third-party material that could not be republished.

With regard to the Daily Mail not being regarded as a reliable source, I wholly concur and it pains me to use them, but in mitigation would say that article referenced is from The Mail on Sunday, which has had a different (less extreme) editorial policy, and the article dates from 2012, a few years before the time that the Daily Mail stated to become formally regarded as an unreliable source. Also, in this instance the journalist was personally an active participant in the event covered by the article, rather than taking a slanted editorially-loaded view from a distance.

Having made these changes so it's now clearer that there are references originating from major UK news organisations - The Telegraph, The Times, BBC radio, Sky News, London Evening Standard - and one major international organisation (the Televisa FOROtv recording), I've resubmitted the article for consideration again. If I come across more robust reference sources, I'll add those too as we go along.

Best regards, Steve.

p.s. I've not used one of these User Talk pages before, no apologies for any breach of etiquette.

charoigne (talk) 13:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

charoigne - with those changes I think the article is in fine shape. I've also reread the terms of Wikipedia's restriction on the Daily Mail and it appears to be specific to the Daily Mail and not any content hosted at Mail Online, so you're correct that the Mail on Sunday is fine. Apologies for the error on my part. If you resubmit it and then leave a note here once you've done it, I'll go over and move it to mainspace. Chetsford (talk) 21:27, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Many thanks, Chetsford, I really appreciate the time you've given this as I'm sure you have many, many articles to wade through. I've resubmitted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Spirited_Bodies so hopefully it's in fit and proper shape for another look. Very best, Steve charoigne (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
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