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Go Se-taeEdit

Hi. Here's how to navigate Naver News Library:

  1. When you click that "Obituaries" source link, it'll pop up a window with pictures of mouse buttons. Press the "X" in the upper right to close it.
  2. Then it'll open a window with the OCR'ed text of the article. You can click the "X" in the upper right to close that too.
  3. The actual scan of the article is the blue-outlined section of the newspaper at the lower left.
  4. You can zoom in by rolling your scroll wheel up or by double-clicking, and move the newspaper by clicking and dragging.
  5. Go Se-tae's obituary is the very left-most one in that blue-outlined section, with the "116" in it. Starts with a black triangle and his name in hanja 高世泰 (Columns run vertically and go from right to left).

You can't copy & paste the text or the pictures, but at least the Printscreen key should still work. Hope that helps. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 03:11, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately I can't find any confirmation about Hong Jong-o. I.e. no further newspaper reports explicitly confirming he's alive (sounds like you found the same Yonhap article I did about Choi Yun-chil going to the 2012 Olympics, which mentioned Hong at the end [1]), but no hits on '"Hong Jong-o" obituary' either. Let me know if there's others I can help you with. Cheers, 59.149.124.29 (talk) 15:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

13 years of editing, todayEdit

  Hey, Canadian Paul. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
Chris Troutman (talk) 18:33, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
 
Hey, thanks for noticing! A nice surprise for the day. Canadian Paul 18:37, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
wow! 13 years! Happy anniversary!  
You should have learned about talkpage archive by now though.  usernamekiran(talk) 23:46, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
I'll get to it eventually, probably.   Canadian Paul 13:37, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Oldest living footballerEdit

FYI, Arthur Smith (footballer, born 1915) is not the "oldest living professional footballer" as you claim phere - he is the oldest former player whom played in the Football League, as confirmed here. It's possible that foreign players are still alive, though I agree that it is very unlikely for someone born 1909 like Zoltán Szaniszló. GiantSnowman 15:40, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Ah, my mistake, thank you for pointing that out. At some point George Haigh was declared the oldest living professional footballer, but of course he was superseded by Smith, which is where I think my wires got crossed. In any case, I'll stop using that as a justification for changing categories. Canadian Paul 15:51, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
@GiantSnowman: Just pinging to request some clarification, would it be safe to move, for example, Bob Foster (footballer), into the YOD missing category based on the articles declaring Smith/Haigh the oldest in the EFL? Just want to make sure we're both on the same page regarding the interpretation of the source, since I erred last time. Canadian Paul 14:29, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Agreed that Foster is likely deceased, so we can move into YOD category. GiantSnowman 14:44, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

AthletesEdit

Hi Paul. Hope you're well. As far as I can tell, every single person who competed in track & field at the Olympics now has an article (not counting that bizzare triathlon at the 1904 Games). Hopefully all of them are in the appropriate category for living/possibly living, esp. the people from the 1936 and 1948 Games. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:39, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

I really don't know how you have the patience for all of that, but that's utterly fantastic! I'll check it out when I have a little extra time and let you know what I find! Canadian Paul 14:16, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Got through 1928 and 1932 and started on 1936 so far. In addition the few changes I made, both Stavros Velkopoulos and Emil Hübscher are deceased, date uncertain. Canadian Paul 10:00, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
1936 done with some changes. Christos Dimitropoulos, Fritz Neuruhrer, and Toshinao Tomie are all deceased, date unknown. Canadian Paul 13:32, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
1948 complete. Anni Bruk was probably born July 27, 1924 and died October 20, 1998, according to Austrian cemetery records. Robert Hawkey and Ioannis Lambrou are deceased, date unknown. Canadian Paul 18:06, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
1952 done. Nikolay Kuchurin died June 16, 1995; it will be updated on Sports Reference eventually. Paul Faucher died April 15, 2007 according to the French Wikipedia, for whatever that is worth. Geraldo de Oliveira is deceased, date unknown.
And done. Svatopluk Sýkora is deceased, date unknown. You also have Taisto Laitinen listed twice on your page. Also, I see you've moved on to new sports, and I noticed that Isamu Sekiguchi is also deceased, for what it's worth. Canadian Paul 10:02, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Antonio AlberinoEdit

Are you sure that he just did not show up to say Hey i'm alive? How can we be sure that there are no older alive footballer than that English one born in 1915? I personally prefer to presume he could be alive, it's not like he is born in 1696, it is biologically possible to be 107, if you see what I mean. --Spafky (talk) 18:18, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia reflects its sources. If a source is considered reliable, and there is no contradictory information, then we go with what the source says. To do otherwise would be considered original research. It may be possible that he is still alive and you may personally prefer to presume what you may, but Wikipedia can only represent what actual, verifiable sources say. Otherwise the project who degenerate into arguments about our personal preferences. Canadian Paul 14:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Paulina RadziulytėEdit

Where did you get the date of death from? The social security death index just says June with no day. Listed here under Kalvaitis last name: https://sortedbyname.com/pages/k101882.html Renata (talk) 13:06, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Actually I cannot even access that link where I am, so I looked it up on a different website. Turns out I was mistaken; I thought I was looking at the SSDI record, but I was actually looking at the Massaschusetts Death Index. The SSDI record only has June, but the Massachusetts Death Index has the full date at https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZ55-8SM. You have to sign up to view it, but it is free. Canadian Paul 12:43, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Bertus BrandsenEdit

Hi CP, can I ask what your thoughts are on this? Both of Bertus_Brandsen's EN and NL Wiki pages would have you believe he's a centenarian, but this link suggests he has died in Amsterdam sometimes in the 2000s or 2010s. Though it's vagueness makes me wonder if the webmaster is assuming he died sometime subsequent to when he was last known to be alive. Do you think safe to mark as deceased? Cheers --Jkaharper (talk) 15:42, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Could really go either way. I think it's safe to mark him as deceased because a reliable source is making that claim and it is not up to us to question the reliability of particular pieces of information that it presents unless that information is contradicted elsewhere. You may find later that another reliable source claims that he is alive and that you get reverted, but that is how it goes. Canadian Paul 12:45, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
Reinforces my instinct. Have edited page. Thanks CP. --Jkaharper (talk) 16:21, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Joan BarryEdit

Find a Grave is a reliable source, so please don't revert my edit. It's highly unlikely that Joan Barry is still alive and if she was, she'd be well over ninety years old. She died on October the 1st, 2007. 60.240.8.249 (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

As was explicitly linked when you were reverted, Find-a-Grave is "almost never" a reliable source and I see no reason to make an exception here, especially, as I pointed out, that this is a perfect case of it being a circular reference to original research on Wikipedia. Regardless of how "likely" it is that she is still alive, Wikipedia's policies on the biographies of living people are clear that a person should be considered living (or possibly living if over the age of 90) unless there is verifiable evidence in reliable sources that they are deceased. Since Find-a-Grave is not reliable, it cannot be used here. We must make absolutely certain that anything printed in biographical articles is true and verifiable, because we know that these biographies can have real and potentially serious effects on actual individuals. Canadian Paul 20:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Olympics pageEdit

Hi,

I noticed that your page User:Canadian Paul/Olympics used to be a comprehensive list with country, year, etc but now is just a bunch of links and the history is gone. What happened to the page? Did it get deleted by accident?

Regards 172.56.30.83 (talk) 21:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

The original purpose of the page was to list a group of individuals who were notable enough to have Wikipedia pages, but potentially obscure enough that WP:BLP-type vandalism might go undetected for long periods of time. It was (in theory) easier to check "related changes" than to add every page to my watchlist. I wanted to make it a bit interesting as well, hence all the extra details, but it sort of spiraled out of control and started edging dangerously close to violating WP:WEBHOST and WP:UPNOT, if not crossing the line. So I transferred the list to a personal web page, to preserve the hard work, and then replaced it with just a list of (most of) the names, so I could retain the original purpose of monitoring the names (which, thorough "related changes", is now MUCH easier without all the extraneous information). I have no plans to delete the "possibly living" page, since there isn't as much extra information there, and it would take more time to reduce it to "just names" then it would be worth at this point. Canadian Paul 11:15, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Cite sports-referenceEdit

Hi Canadian Paul, I see that you reverted my edit with the edit summary "This template is for use in external links only, as it does not provide sufficient information for an inline citation and diminishes the quality of the citation" By that, you refer to my use of Template:Cite sports-reference. Your rationale is incorrect, as this template is specifically designed for inline citations (note the "cite" bit in its name) and it'a Template:Sports-reference that is designed for use with external links. The difference between what the template produces and your use of a cite web template is that you show some of the "MADmen" who have compiled the Sports Reference database. Whilst the four have led the work, as it says in the footnote on the linked page, there were many more authors who have made substantial contributions. To me it's questionable whether a database should have authors listed. If it should have authors listed, why not integrate them into the template? That said, there is a discussion about this particular aspect on the talk page of cite sports-reference where an editor argues this shouldn't be done. In summary, the underlying rationale for your revert appears to be based on a mis-understanding on your part, and if it ought to be done "your way", I would say that those changes should be implemented via amending the template if you could establish consensus for doing so. Thoughts? Schwede66 17:25, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

There was a discussion on this topic in the past between myself and another editor, which required a WP:3O that sided with the idea that a detailed citation should not be replaced with a citation that contains less information. It may be an old and small consensus, but it is the best one we have got right now. Furthermore, we need not use a template simply because it is there for our convenience. I don't see much value in taking away information about the citation when we indeed know that it will disappear in the near future. I suppose we could start a new discussion about it somewhere, but where? As you pointed out, the discussion on that template talk page is pretty stale and, moreover, SR will be shutting down eventually, so it seems as if the whole discussion would soon be moot in any case. So I don't see any misunderstanding on my part, rather the necessity of shorthanding essentially this discussion into an edit summary while making vague reference to the language in the template that could, I admit, be confusing. So I apologize for the mis-communcation.
Regarding whether the database should have the authors listed, I would ask, why shouldn't it, when a lot of hard work has gone into compiling the database and its contents are protected by copyright and it helps us better identify the source that the material came from? Again, it could be integrated into the template (although I lack both the skills and interest to do so), but why bother when the site has an upcoming expiry date? It is not about doing it "my way" (one would think that, as we are both experienced editors, there could be a little more assumption of good faith than that here), but about what has been done in the past based on an (albeit very weak) consensus has been.
Finally, while we're chatting, could you please also be carefully about not using the "birth date and age" template in the infoboxes of possibly living people? Since we don't know whether or not they are alive, we can't verify that they are the ages claimed by the template and since most of them are likely deceased, it doesn't make much sense to list them as being a certain age. Canadian Paul 17:52, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
@Schwede66: Like this. Pinging you because I realize that I should have done that in my earlier message. Canadian Paul 21:05, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi again, thanks for your considered response. I hope I can address all the issues raised by you:
  • If you feel that the author information is useful, and others agree (and I see that you had User:Darkfrog24 concur with you), then we should seek a bit more input and if we do get consensus, it's very simple to amend the template (I'd be happy to do the work).
  • Do you want to draft a note to that effect? I suggest that the template talk page is the appropriate location. We can then inform others through a notice to a few WikiProjects (e.g. Olympics, Sports, etc).
  • The fact that SR will shut down is irrelevant as the content will, at the very least, still be accessible via various archive services.
  • When I used the term "misunderstanding", I was referring to you saying that "this template is for use in external links only". That is most definitely not the case; it is a citation template for inline referencing.
  • My used the phrase "your way" did not in any way imply bad faith. If it came across like that, please accept my apologies. I still can't see why it implies bad faith, but little subtleties are sometimes lost on me as English isn't my first language.
  • I accept your point that removing authors that you manually added is not to be done.
  • I accept your point that adding an age calculation to people in their 90s is probably not a good idea (unless we have some more recent references about them). Bringing up that point is timely, as I'm working my was backwards through the history of the European Rowing Championships and I'm currently working on the late 1940s and early 1950s (i.e. people born in the 1920s or 1930s). Schwede66 00:51, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Hi Schwede66. I'll address the SR template issue when I have a little more time (busy week this week), but I did want to throw in a quick response to acknowledge that I received the message in case you see me spot editing a thing or two and think I'm ignoring it. As for the birth date and age template, Category:Possibly living people is used only for those who would be 90 years or older and have had no update within the last 10 years or so (I'm paraphrasing a bit from the category plus relating my experience in using it, as I frequent it often), which is to say that anyone born in the 1930s should be fine to use the BDA template. Canadian Paul 19:16, 17 March 2018 (UTC)
Have had a big week myself, including travel over the last three days. But now it's weekend here and I've got time to work with you on progressing this. And thanks for amending the Hansjakob Keller article. Schwede66 18:02, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I've drafted a note. I've tried to keep it concise, in the hopes that people can review the previous discussions, but it might be too concise, so I definitely think there's room for improvement here:

"I wanted to raise the issue, and form a consensus, regarding the idea of adding author information to this template. This stems from two discussions, one back in 2016 and a second more recently, where editors replaced a more detailed citation with the template, which I reverted in both cases because I felt that it provided less information than the full citation I had provided and thus lowered the quality of the citation. In the first case, I had a third opinion agree with me, and the second case has led to this discussion, which means that there is yet to be a strong consensus on the issue.

@Schwede66: has suggested (and I concur) that a proposal should be raised here to add author information on the template, which would address my objection to using the template instead of a regular citation. The question is what author information to include: Justin Kubatko is often raised as a contributor, but he is involved in running the site, not contributing the data, so he’s responsible for presentation rather than content. My suggestion (and what I have been doing when I use a regular template) is to list the group leaders noted at the bottom of each page (Hilary Evans, Arild Gjerde, Jeroen Heijmans, and Bill Mallon – the latter of whom is the founder). Unlike some of the other information in the contributors and sources section, this information is still up to date (full disclosure: I’m one of the contributors to the data), and is unlikely to change, so it would make for a stable template. Therefore, I am posting this here to garner a consensus on the issue of including author information in the template, and what the nature of that information should be."

Let me know how you think it should be modified. Canadian Paul 08:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

That's good. I guess for clarification, a final sentence could be added that summarises the proposal, maybe like so: "In summary, I propose that the parameters last1, first1 through last4, first4 be added to the template, including author-link4 for Mallon." Schwede66 17:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
Good idea. Posted (as you probably guess from the ping). Do you want to post a notice on WP:Olympics and perhaps elsewhere? Canadian Paul 14:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Implemented as discussed. Thanks! Schwede66 19:19, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
By the way, if Ove Nielsen was still alive in 2008, he could probably go into the "living people" category, although 10 years is about the border on that. Not sure what to think. (Also, I'm not stalking you specifically - just changes to the possibly living people category). Canadian Paul 14:40, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
Regarding Ove Nielsen, I'm pretty sure he's still alive. He seems to be well-known in Lillehammer and there's nothing in the local media about him having died. That said, I have reached the free search limit on the Gudbrandsdølen Dagningen site. Maybe you could have a look whether there's something more recent about him on their website. And even if you were stalking me, another set of eyes would be good as my process of creating rowing articles is semi-automated (mail-merge) and things do go wrong (e.g. the word "born" got dropped the other day for some strange reason, and I didn't spot it myself). Schwede66 21:03, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

───────Angelo Polledri has a reference for birth date and birth place, death date and weight; none of that is shown in his SR entry. You might want to pass the reference on to your colleagues. Schwede66 20:14, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I'll send it in to them (when it appears on SR, of course, is another matter entirely...)! Canadian Paul 08:58, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

──────────── Egbert Reinsfeld is mis-spelled on Sports Reference; he's listed as Reimsfeld on the database. Schwede66 23:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I'll look into it.

──── Here's another one for you. I think that in the 1920 coxed pair, the Belgian team is made up of three rowers. The official Olympic record is of no help as the team members aren't listed by name. The Belgian Rowing Association (Federation Royale Belge D'aviron) reckons that the Van Den Bossche brothers were the rowers and René Van Damme was the cox; SR lists Guillaume Visser as cox (or more precisely, as the third team member). Visser, according to the Rowing at the 1912 Summer Olympics – Men's coxed four article, was one of the rowers prior to WWI. Given how many European Championships medals Visser brought home it seems difficult to imagine that the Belgian Rowing Association denied him the 1920 honours. What do you reckon? Schwede66 22:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I'll forward this one/look into it as well, thanks! Might be a bit before there's a proper response, however, as the IOC site with the SR data just launched and so everyone is busy with that, working out the bugs, and so on and son. Canadian Paul 15:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

────────── And another one. Malcolm Shaw died in 2014. Middle name, death date, and death location are all referenced in the article. The death notice says that he was 68; that puts his birth year published by Sports Reference out by two years. The death notice belongs to this individual as there's also an obituary from his home rowing club that came out in July 2014. Schwede66 18:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again! I'll add it the queue and let you know once we can get to it! Canadian Paul 17:31, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

─────────────── And another one. The French article for Jules Georges has his year of death (1983), his place of burial (Cimetière de Robermont), and lists that Robert George (rower) is his son. Schwede66 03:26, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

I suspect that Jean Cipollina is the correct spelling for the Italian rower; SR has him as Cipolina. The Italian surname does usually have a double 'l', and both FISA (not that that means anything) and the official Olympic report concur that it should be Cipollina. Schwede66 19:51, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
The Jack Godwin article has a few details that could be added to the database (year of birth, place of birth, middle name). Schwede66 06:46, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

@Schwede66: Regarding Egbert Reinsfeld, one of my colleagues sent me scans of his birth and death certificates; it's definitely Reimsfeld. Regarding Visser/Van Damme and Georges, we're still looking into those ones. Finally, you are correct about Shaw and Cipollina; they will updated the next time the database is updated (by either SR or the IOC). Thanks again for all the contributions! Canadian Paul 20:18, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

Ilse Geisler was married to Mr Vorsprach (as per Volker Kluge's book of GDR sports personalities); SR has him as Vorspach. Schwede66 08:25, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Hey Canadian Paul, let me add something related to Sports-Reference here as well. In September, I curated Sports-Reference profile links in Wikidata by looking them up on the SR athletes index. Besides lots of outdated residual profiles which did not get deleted during one of the past updates, I think I have spotted two duplicated persons in the latest version of the database:

  1. kh/viktoriya-khristova-1 and wr/victoria-wright-1 seem to be about Victoria Wright
  2. sh/nimrod-shapira-1 and ba/nimrod-shapira-bar-or-1 seem to be about Nimrod Shapira Bar-Or

Can you please have a look whether something needs to be merged on SR side? Besides these two cases, I have not found any other (suspected) true duplicates. Wikidata has links to around 86% of all SR/olympics profiles meanwhile. —MisterSynergy (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

@Schwede66: and @MisterSynergy:, thanks for these; I will look into all of them and let you know. I can say that Shapira has already been merged and will be corrected in the next database update. Canadian Paul 18:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Here's another one for you. Bettine Jahn is listed as Bettina Gärtz. Firstly, her given name is mis-spelled. Secondly, given that she was already married when she became world champion her common name is her married name. At least I have the impression that SR goes with common name rather than the name at the last Olympic Games that they competed at. Schwede66 18:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll look into this one too! Canadian Paul 20:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
The maiden name for Silvia Fröhlich is missing: Arndt. Spotted her competing under that name in 1978 in Karapiro; FISA lists her as Fröhlich-Arndt but Volker Kluge doesn't show her maiden name in the second edition of his book Das große Lexikon der DDR-Sportler. Schwede66 18:37, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up! That's an easy fix for the next update. Canadian Paul 18:18, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Olympic centenarianEdit

Hi Paul. For info, I spotted a recent change on my watchlist to the article for Bill Brown (racewalker), with a source saying he was 100+ when he died. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:10, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Yup. He died August 25, 1980 at the age of 101 years, 262 days. It'll be updated on SR sooner or later (probably later). Cheers. Canadian Paul 19:58, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Catherine PymEdit

Hi Paul. Just incase you missed this, Catherine Pym died on 28 March. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that. How unfortunate. Canadian Paul 10:33, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

No reason to preserve an impetuous remarkEdit

I realize you probably won't be able to understand this, but let me repeat myself. Exhausted at the end of the 1960 Olympic marathon, Arthur Keily, who had a long and extraordinary career as a marathon runner, made an impetuous remark that an inept reporter was stupid enough to include in a story. It was simply sour grapes, possibly momentary. There was nothing notable about that remark, it was not well founded, and Keily may have regretted it immediately, but your zeal to preserve it is very unfortunate. It diminishes the man, in the unfathomable absence of any reason to do so. In my opinion, your intransigence doesn't speak well to your own judgment. Aside from that, I appreciate that you authored the article in the first place because he certainly deserved to be remembered for his ability and efforts. I just hope that Keily didn't read it before he died at almost 95 years old, two years ago. I hope that you aren't similarly remembered for something ignorant and inconsequential you may have said in your lifetime. Activist (talk) 19:36, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

We've already discussed this at great length and you are not adding anything new to the conversation. I am, therefore, not going to rehash the same arguments. If you want to get what you want out of this, use reliable sources to cite material that supports your perspective. Invoke Wikipedia policy when making arguments. Establish consensus. Do not engage in personal attacks. These are the fundamentals of Wikipedia and the suggestions I have given to help you make the changes you want, yet you continue to ignore them and choose to try and push forward your own point of view instead. Refusing to follow Wikipedia's processes and procedures just to get your own way is, as I said in my edit summary, disruptive editing that will be brought to WP:ANI. Canadian Paul 19:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

SR database tweaksEdit

Given that you have a connection with Sports Reference, I wonder whether you could initiate some changes to their database:

I'm sure I'll come across other things that can also be mended. If this is the right way to initiate improvements, I'll let you know about it. If it's not the right way to do this, please suggest what can be done instead. Schwede66 19:47, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

I can definitely pass on changes and they should be corrected quickly in the underlying database. Unfortunately, SR takes a very long time to update their website based on that database (last update was in October or November 2017), so it may take a while for the changes to actually appear, but they will get there eventually. I'll message them about Lister and, as for the duplicates, if they are duplicates in the underlying database, then that's an easy fix. If they are SR-only duplicates, however, I'm not sure what can be done, since SR generally doesn't clean out their outdated pages (I presume that these duplicates get created when the underlying database changes the name of a competitor; instead of migrating the old page, SR just creates a new one and deletes all links to the old ones, but does not actually delete the old page itself). Canadian Paul 12:33, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
That is interesting background indeed and it explains why there are duplicate entries for some people. MisterSynergy, let me draw your attention to this as this violates the single value constraint (D:Q19474404) for Sports Reference IDs (D:Property:P1447). Based on the older entries not being updated, it should be possible to distinguish the older from the newer entries and if so, Wikidata could identify the deprecated entry. That would be rather handy for editors of Olympic articles across all Wikipedia languages. Schwede66 19:32, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Oops, and I admit I completely forgot to ask about Leister. I'll get on that. Canadian Paul 21:11, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for ping. Most of these issues were indeed somehow known to me, although I didn’t see an explanation as detailed as the one by Canadian Paul. SportsReference has great detail about Olympic participants, but the technique of the website is … rather crappy unfortunately.
As far as I know, it is not always easy to identify the most recent version of the duplicated profiles. Even if one can do so, deprecation would not be the correct consequence as the identifiers are still technically valid. If one prefers the most recent identifier with ranks, one would solve lots of usability issues (only one value will be delivered to data users), but the constraint violation will not be gone. Interestingly we are discussing a new “single best-rank value” constraint type these days, in contrast to the current “single (non-deprecated) value” we have today; this would help here a lot…
Anyways, regarding SportsReference.com there was this announcement in 2016 (?) that they will move their data from sports-reference.com to the IOC. Canadian Paul, do you happen to know whether this plan is still valid? —MisterSynergy (talk) 21:19, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@MisterSynergy: Yes, the data is still planned to be moved to the IOC, but the integration has been slow. It will happen eventually, but I couldn't even give you an estimate of when. Probably not soon though, and I think there's possibly (?) another SR update in the works. Last one was in October/November. Canadian Paul 21:24, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
@Schwede66: Regarding Karl Leister, one of the individuals behind the SR data did some in-depth research with some of the organizations involved with the regatta and the clubs that participated. He confirmed that SR is correct and the IOC is wrong: not only did Leister not participate in the event, but there is no evidence that he even traveled to Stockholm. Obviously this is too OR for Wikipedia, but it does explain why he is not on SR and won't be added. Canadian Paul 13:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Interesting! Thanks for asking your colleagues. Schwede66 17:34, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

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Jaroslav VítekEdit

Hi Paul. When you have a moment, please can you take a look at Talk:Jaroslav Vítek - there's some questions about him possibly being confused with another Czech athlete at the 1936 Summer Olympics. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:28, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Replied. Canadian Paul 08:31, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Earl ValiquetteEdit

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DYK for LlamatronEdit

 On 6 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Llamatron, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for £5, Amiga users who registered Llamatron would receive a poster, a newsletter, and another game from the company? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Llamatron. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Llamatron), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Reminder about GAN review for Mario's PicrossEdit

Hello,

Just wanted an update on whether you could continue the GA nomination review for the article Mario's Picross. It's been seven days since your last reply. Thanks! ~ P*h3i (📨) 06:06, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

A cookie for you!Edit

  Thank you very much for your GA nomination review for Mario's Picross! ~ P*h3i (📨) 13:16, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Mervyn LeeEdit

Hi CP, thoughts on the last section on here? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mervyn_Lee I was going to mark him deceased but would take a second opinion first. This site (http://australianpolitics.com/parliament/house/living-former-house-members-1949-1972) says he's alive but appears to be quite amateur so I'm torn. Thanks --Jkaharper (talk) 17:49, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

That's almost certainly him in the obituary but, with the conflicting information, it's probably best just to move him to the "possibly living people" category for now, unless consensus recommends otherwise. As you likely know already, his obituary is of almost no help at all. Canadian Paul 17:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Star GooseEdit

 On 15 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Star Goose, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the shoot 'em up video game Star Goose was originally envisioned as a first-person racing game? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Star Goose. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Star Goose), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:01, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

And on to the next...Edit

Hi Paul. For info, all the Olympian basketball players from the 1936 and 1948 games now have articles. Again, I've done my best with the living/possibly living cats. Full list of the pages I've added is here. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:10, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Great job! I've already noticed a few names that should be in living rather than possibly living, but I'll go through them a bit more thoroughly when I have more time. Canadian Paul 11:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Haven't had a chance to go through them yet but, before I forget, I noticed that per this message, Fouad Abdel Meguid El-Kheir and Abdel Rahman Hafez Ismail are deceased. Canadian Paul 08:29, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Alright, I went through the list:
  1. Jindřich Kinský died April 8, 2008 according to the Czech Wikipedia, but there's no source.
  2. Robert Guillin probably died February 15, 1926, but I can't confirm that this obituary is his: [2]
  3. Nejat Diyarbakırlı died July 14, 2017. Should be in the next Sports Reference update.
  4. Salah El-Dine Nessim possibly died January 20, 2007, but I can't prove that the individual in the obituary is the basketball player: [3]
  5. Satoshi Matsui died August 1, 1995 according to Japanese Wikipedia, but the source is offline. Probably reliable though.
  6. Louis Van De Goor, Émile Laermans, Gustave Vereecken, Pierre Van Basselaere, Raymond Gérard, René Demanck, and Edward Risk Allah are all deceased, date unknown.

Canadian Paul 14:19, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Cloud KingdomsEdit

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Age templatesEdit

Hi Paul, What do you think of this? Isn't it inappropriate to use years and days for someone who is not known for their age? I'm hesitant to revert this myself as this user has a long history of edit-warring whenever I tidy up after him. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 04:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

I know we had a discussion somewhere about when and where it was appropriate to use that template, so the user may actually be abiding by the consensus... when I have a bit more time, I'll take a look and see if I can find where it was discussed (there's a lot of different talk pages it could be on). That said, if the current consensus allows that kind of thing, it might be time to establish a new consensus, and I would support limiting its use to just pages where the day count is actually of encyclopedic value, which I don't find to be the case here (he reached 110, what difference does it make how long he lived after that if he didn't set any longevity records?). Canadian Paul 09:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Cloud KingdomsEdit

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CopyviosEdit

Hi Paul. Following on from this, I found that most of the text in Howard Wing's article was taken straight from SR. I've removed it and tagged the talkpage, per the instructions. I've not done this CCI work before, so if I've missed something, or done something incorrect, please let me know. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 09:04, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Looks like you've done it properly. I normally just delete the offending revisions, but in this case I'll leave them there for easier review since there's an active investigation. I blocked that user a while ago for copyvios and started a request for a formal review, but nothing ever came of it and the block expired, so if he hasn't done it since, then the only thing left to do is let the investigation take its course. Glad to see that someone finally got on it though... Canadian Paul 18:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

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The Hills Have EyesEdit

I can see that you are very interested in horror films and I was wondering if you would like to review an article I nominated for GA: Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes. Thanks for your consideration!MagicatthemovieS (talk) 17:09, 5 October 2018 (UTC)MagicatthemovieS

John NusunginyaEdit

Here's another one for the PLP category (I might nominate it at DYK as well) -- any chance you can do some looking to see if he may be alive or not? I can't find anything through my usual means. Connormah (talk) 22:35, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I couldn't find any definitive proof, but public records seem to indicate that he is still alive. Those aren't 100% accurate, but in the absence of other evidence, it's probably a safe assumption that he is still alive. Canadian Paul 18:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
That's also what I found and was leaning towards; thanks. Do you think we should keep him in the PLP category, though? Connormah (talk) 19:49, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
I'd probably put them in living people, if for no other reason than it offers more protection. If you have to err on one side, better to assume they are living and be wrong I would think. Canadian Paul 19:50, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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I did not know that this was a thing, but thank you! Cheers! Canadian Paul 18:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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Nejat DiyarbakırlıEdit

Hi Paul. Hope you're well. Interesting one for the article on Nejat Diyarbakırlı, an Olympic basektball player for Turkey in 1952. The article has two sources, one from Sports Ref, the other from Basketball Ref, but they both have a different DOB! My assumption is that the two sites are under the same hierarchy. Just thought I'd drop you a note. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 11:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: 1928 is correct: here is an extensive biography of him in Turkish, but the DOB is on the front page. The data provided by the different sports within "Sports Reference.com" actually comes from different sources, hence the discrepancy, but 1928 is definitely correct. He's also deceased, so I should probably update that too when I have a little more time. Canadian Paul 18:02, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Paul - appreciate you looking into this. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 18:47, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

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Thanks! And only two days before my actual birthday! Canadian Paul 19:16, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

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100 years oldEdit

Hi Paul. Following this thread at the Cricket Project, the article for Abdul Jabbar shows that if he's still alive, he turned 100 a few days ago. If you are able to find any info, it would be appreciated. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:32, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll take a look into it and let you know. Canadian Paul 17:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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Gheorghe SencoviciEdit

Hi Paul, I just came across the death date of Gheorghe Sencovici here. Since the Olympedia web site cannot be currently reached, it would be great if you could confirm to me whether the date was already known there before. Thanks and regards --RonaldH (talk) 22:40, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi. I think you have the answer already but, just to confirm, we did not have this before! Canadian Paul 05:20, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Right, Bill provided me with me a working URL in the meantime. Thanks for the feedback anyway! --RonaldH (talk) 22:07, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

What is the link for the people who are dead on certain Wikipedia?Edit

Since I did find one on the shortest bios just now. Brahim Chibout, listed as living here, but dead on the French one! On another note I also found someone there that I moved to possibly living who was born in 1923-Lasse Oka Wgolf (talk) 01:53, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Okay thanks for updating that, I found quite a bit of ones that might be living from the teens/20s that are listed as living or possibly. Now while this person is born in the 1930s, this was odd. I was looking up unsourced BLP's, and found this actress Ann Baker who was oddly updated 2 years ago as being dead with no source at all. So I just removed this (its odd as she is still listed under the cat living people, and nobody noticed it till now!) and I noticed she is listed as dead on another wiki. (Problem with some wikis though is I notice they have DOB's from random places that might not be accurate) Wgolf (talk) 05:20, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

I put up the tag on Viacheslav Lavrov, which was not put onto the page for that. Wgolf (talk) 22:21, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Actually it was not me who made those edits (I have not been on in a week), but I am glad this got resolved. Canadian Paul 04:26, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

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Your userpageEdit

Hi Canadian Paul! I was just reading your userpage and must admit that I cannot figure out for the life of me what this says. I know that 7 is 'T' and that l337 is leet, but what about the rest? Never seen brackets etc used in it before haha.

7]-[!$ |_|$312 (/~\|\| 123/~\[> /~\|\|[> \/\/12!73 1337 /~\7 /~\ |\|3/~\12-|\|/~\7!\/3 |_3\/3|_.

--TheSandDoctor Talk 15:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

"This User Can Read and Write 1337 at a near-native level." For the most part, each letter is formed by a combination of punctuation i.e.

  • /~\ = a
  • |\| = n
  • [> = d

As I've never seen these elsewhere, I presume this was intended to be tongue-in-cheek, but perhaps I simply haven't visited dark enough corners of the internet... Canadian Paul 21:25, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for the response, that is very.....abstract. But hey, I learned something today. Thanks for saving me from having to learn anything else!     --TheSandDoctor Talk 07:20, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Copyedit requestEdit

Hey there. I noticed your name being part of the Horror WikiProject and I was wondering if you can help with copyediting an article I have nominated at FAC. It was recommended that Soultaker (film) should get another copyedit to help with its plot and production sections and having read your other articles from the video game project I thought it would be a good overlap. GamerPro64 14:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi @GamePro64:, I would be happy to help out, but I should warn you that I have never done a proper FA-level copyedit, and the last time I tried I got angry messages pointing to obscure policies I had never heard of. So while I am happy to give it a look and share some feedback, I should warn you ahead of time that it might not be very helpful. But, let me know! Canadian Paul 23:02, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

please just email me directlyEdit

I have no idea how to 'talk' on Wiki. Can you just email me your question? Thanks. Tom Schmeh iowabasedtraveler at yahoo dot com

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Sumiko Mizukubo actress who apparently lived from 1916 to 2019Edit

Okay I apparently edited this article a while back and it appeared on my watch list Sumiko Mizukubo, it says she died in 2019, which someone put a source for, but I'm not sure if she lived that long or not. (If she did she should be added to the corrected pages). Wgolf (talk) 22:55, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

I removed the ref-saw it was a Tumblr post which that isn't a reliable source anyway. Well you can add her to your possibly living table at least! Wgolf (talk) 22:57, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll look into it. Canadian Paul 17:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Found another one from 1915 which says they are living still Albert Karubuy. Though I'm iffy as there is no proof and don't know if they just said they were living. Wgolf (talk) 18:08, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
@Wgolf and Canadian Paul: Hi! The creator of Albert Karubuy here. I'm not sure he's alive, how to say that he's died even though we don't know the date?--Jeromi Mikhael (talk) 11:58, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Wgolf and Jeromi Mikhael: If there is a reliable source that lists him as deceased, then it can be added (even if it's just something that refers to "the late Albert Karubuy" without an actual date). Otherwise, he can just be moved into Category:Possibly living people, since he is probably deceased, but could still be alive. Canadian Paul 21:14, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

GA review requestEdit

Hi! I saw you listed at Wikipedia:Good article nominations/List of reviewers and was wondering if you might be able to do a GA review of Made in Canada? I'm hoping to have it on a DYK for 1 July, so I'm afraid I'm in a little bit of a time crunch. – Reidgreg (talk) 12:57, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: I can't look at it today, but if you can wait a few more days (they'll usually expedite a timed DYK) I can take care of it then if no one else has grabbed it. Canadian Paul 21:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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Question on Kalle AnttilaEdit

Hi CP, maybe you could take a look into an issue with Kalle Anttila, a Finnish wrestler and twice Olympic champion, if and when you have time. User:DorothyIan made unsourced changes of death date/place along with a story of his emigration to Canada, which I reverted. This happened twice, first time on 9 June, and second time on 23 June, note that the details of the change are different. Next, this editor has started a discussion on my talk page; the question is whether the Wikipedian Kalle Anttila is the same person as their great-grandfather, who they explained emigrated from Finland to Sudbury in Canada, but still competed in wrestling for Finland. Oceanh (talk) 23:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@Oceanh: Since you have already replied mentioning that they must have reliable, verifiable sources to back up their edits, you can also tell that person to send me an email through Wikipedia with evidence of their claims and I can help forward to WP:OTRS, who will review it and make the changes if appropriate. Canadian Paul 21:17, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Jean Yun & John NicksEdit

Hello CP,

John Nicks runs the now disband Santa Monica Figure Skating club in the 70's. Jean Yun skated in Santa Monica Figure Skating Club and was he's student. John Nicks took Jean Yun to the Olympic, World, & Grand Prix. It is published in the USFigureskating Magazine "SKATING" in the Feburary 2018 issue p26 Titled "Unbroken" written by David Lemieux. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dn54168 (talkcontribs) 04:55, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Do you have any evidence that Yun is notable per WP:NSKATE? If so, then they can be re-added to that page with evidence of their notability. For example, if Yun really competed at the Olympics, then that would be notable enough, but I do not see any evidence of that. Otherwise, I presume that Nicks had many students, not all of whom can be mentioned on Nicks' page. Since this is an encyclopedia, we can only include references to notable individuals, per our policies on the biographies of living people. Canadian Paul 16:48, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
That’ll be her: d:Q16173236 Schwede66 17:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
Thanks @Schwede66: I definitely missed that! @DN54168: I do not have an objection to re-adding her then, and I see that you are working on an article for her as well, so that is excellent! Canadian Paul 17:31, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
I've moved the article into mainspace: Jean Yun Schwede66 20:34, 12 July 2019 (UTC)

Seydi DinçtürkEdit

Hi Paul - hope you're well. For info, the death info for Seydi Dinçtürk has been updated to say that he died today, but you had a source of his death in 2013. Maybe he did a Reggie Perrin! Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 16:45, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Alas, I lack the class to catch the reference, but I can at least confirm that the 2013 source was incorrect. There was a Facebook posting showing him alive (with a picture) in 2015, so the new obituary seems correct. Although the source came out yesterday, so there's no way that he died on the seventh. I'll change that now; hope all is well with you too! Canadian Paul 19:48, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
Great work as always - thanks. On an Olympic-related note, the WP article for Ferenc Szűts possibly has two pages on Sports Ref: one, two. I've just started work on the missing gymnasts, and I spotted this one. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:43, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, unfortunately Sports Reference does not delete old versions of the athlete pages from their site (just the links to them), so there are a lot of doubles out there. The problem is not on the data end, so unfortunately we can't do anything about it. Canadian Paul 03:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

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Ski jumpingEdit

Hi Paul. Moving on to the next Olympic sport, I'm now working on ski jumpers. I found the info about this guy very interesting. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 17:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

@Lugnuts: Great minds and such... I find him to be one of the most interesting Olympians. So much so that I wrote, not one, but two blog posts about him. Still haven't solved the mystery (though I am in contact with a relative), but from the second post, I can at least confirm that he did not die until much later than believed previously. Canadian Paul 19:29, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
The second blog was a great read - thanks for posting it. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:53, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
Fascinating! Schwede66 02:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

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Georg BaumannEdit

Hi Paul. Heads up on an interesting recent edit to Georg Baumann's biography, which suggests he did not die in WWI, but possibly in the 1930s in China. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 15:34, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for this! I passed it on to the group and it seems that the February 1934 DOD is correct. Still waiting for 100% confirmation, but it looks like the sources are accurate. Canadian Paul 12:32, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

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AustraliaEdit

Hi Paul. Working my way through hockey players, and for the 1956 Summer Olympics, I've found sources about the following Australian players now being deceased:

The sources can be found in each article. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:03, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks @Lugnuts:! I did know about these, but now I don't have to update them! Here is a source for Mecklem's full DOB: https://www.heavenaddress.com/obituaries/funeral-notice/Donald-William-MECKLEM/1820650/. Keep up the good work! Canadian Paul 21:01, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Brilliant - I've updated his bio. And thanks for your ongoing research in this area - it's always appreciated. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:14, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi Paul. Moving over to Egypt, you might be interested in this post on their 1906 article. Thanks. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 19:59, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
Hmmm... I don't really see any proposed edits there, so I guess there's no action to be taken. Canadian Paul 17:12, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years agoEdit

Awesome
 
Ten years!

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Nice to see on my talk page, thanks! Canadian Paul 17:11, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

AfroCine: Join the Months of African Cinema this October!Edit

Greetings!

After a successful first iteration of the “Months of African Cinema” last year, we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000.

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