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New User, Need help!Edit

hello, Blaze The Wolf i am Stobene45. I am new to Wikipedia and I asked for help in the teahouse. I got 2 replies there and got a notification from the Wikipedia teahouse that I should try seeking help from experienced editors and it suggested ur username so here I am. Now I will not bore u with the back story and straight to the topic I need some guide to steps to add a citation and where should we add citations in an edit. I would really appreciate any kind of help. Thankyou Stobene45 (talk) 03:54, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[]

@Stobene45: Apologies for the late response, I was asleep at the time you messaged me. I'm not exactly the best user to get help from to be honest. IF you look at my talk page archive, you will see that I've had a few issues. However, I will do my best to help you out. So, you need help adding citations and figuring out how to add them from what you said? Well, depending on how you do it, it can be as easy as clicking a button and as hard as writing "code". I say code but it's not really code, it's sort of what Wikipedia uses (i'm using it in this very message!) to show special things. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 15:11, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[]
I actually forgot that my name is still one of the ones that will appear in that message. I'm not actually that much of an experienced user. I'm more of an intermediate user. I'm not quite a complete newbie but I"m not an experienced user either. I'm in between. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[]
After looking at your profile, I might not be the best user to help you as you are from India and I'm from the USA. Your native language is Hindi (although it appears you know English fairly well) and the only language I know is English. Anyways, you did the right thing asking on the Teahouse first. If your question hasn't already been answered there I'd be glad to help you out! Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 15:19, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Thankyou for replying to my message. i can understand, and to be honest it wasn't any huge delay i am not very active on Wikipedia so i didn't even notice any delay. and abt getting help is that everyone in the teahouse is referring me the WP:Young but I guess there is a problem in my device as that page is not opening. I really need someone to just explain me the steps in message itself but i guess everyone is too busy. If we talk about me being in India so i would have no problem in understanding your messages so if u could help me i would be very Thankful. (And thankyou fro writing in source format as i got to learn some codes).Thankyou again for the reply and i hope i am not irritating u by messaging u constantly to help me. if i do pls tell me. And I am really sorry to reply in short as i didn't had anything to say more. Thankyou Stobene45 (talk) 04:43, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[]
@Stobene45: No problem! In my opinion, I think the best way for you to learn would be by seeing and being able to mess around with an actual page. However, if you were to do that you would get banned. So I have a solution. It's called the sandbox. If you look at my sandbox I currently have an actual page on Wikipedia copied to it as I was working on making it better. If you would like to take a look at it go to User:Blaze The Wolf/sandbox. Now, as for WP:YOUNG, what it is in a nutshell:
Feel free to write, but remember that we have some rules.
Ask the other writers if you need help. They are usually friendly.
You should never give out any personal information of any kind to anyone.
Never tell anyone about your "real" life.
The bottom 2 is simply general advice for being on the internet because some people are wanting to commit identity theft. If you would like to mess around with the page in my sandbox, simply copy what's in my sandbox from the source editor, and then go to your sandbox which would be located at User:Stobene45/sandbox. There is one thing that you shouldn't change while you have it in the sandbox though. Around the categories you will see <!-- and --> . Those are called commits. It basically makes it so that bit of Wikitext (the formatting/code Wikipedia uses in articles along with HTML) isn't included in the article. If those are removed the categories will be added to your Sandbox which isn't good as your sandbox shouldn't really be included in those categories. If this was too confusing for you let me know and I will try and help you figure out what I'm saying. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 17:15, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[]

May interest youEdit

I started an article on the North Platte black exodus of 1929. You indicated on my talk page once that you lived there. Do you know about this? Hope you're doing well. Urve (talk) 13:29, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[]

@Urve: Unfortunately I do not. I actually don't know much about the history of my town, despite living there. But I'm sure I would be able to find something about it. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 22:21, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[]

The Signpost: 25 July 2021Edit

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How to get fancy signatureEdit

Hyello. How do i change my signature like you did but with different colours. In other words "Sir... Sir, can I have your autograph sir? "

Preceding bland signature issued by LostCitrationHunter (talk) 08:38, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@LostCitrationHunter: WP:CUSTOMSIG is your starting point here! -GoatLordServant ☂ (Talk - Contribs) 12:17, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@LostCitrationHunter: Hello LostCitration! I was not actually the one who created my signature. The user Levi_OP made it for me after I asked that they make one for me. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:11, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Tagging pages for deletionEdit

Hello, Blaze The Wolf,

I just deleted the user pages you tagged for deletion and I just wanted to put in a plug for using Twinkle as an easy way to tag pages for deletion as you select from available CSD criteria depending on the type of pages it is. It's very straight-forward and has a drop down menu at the top of the page, the only caveat is that I don't know if you edit on a mobile device...I don't so I'm not sure how it appears for mobile phone users. But it has some great features, you can easily set up a AFD or RFD along with CSD and PRODs and the best part is that it posts a notification for page creators so you don't have to write up a message. Any way, I've found it makes things like tagging pages much easier. Happy editing! Liz Read! Talk! 18:58, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Liz: Actually I'm already using Twinkle and used it to tag my userpages. I simply changed the reasoning because I forgot U1 was a thing. I decided it would be a good idea to add my reasoning as to why I wanted it removed even though it would've been removed anyway per U1 ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:00, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[]

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  The Helping Hand Barnstar
Well earned for daily contributions to The Teahouse. Pyrrho the Skeptic (talk) 22:47, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Pyrrho the Skeptic: Thanks dude! I always try my best to help out newcomers because we were all newcomers at one point. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:48, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Drink some!Edit

  Drink some for the help mate!

You're probably very tired So you deserve it! LeggoMyEggoNOW (talk) 14:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@LeggoMyEggoNOW: Thanks dude! As much as I'd like to I can't because that would be illegal. (And I never will drink alcoholic beverages). ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:05, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Then drink the next best thing, coke-a-cola LeggoMyEggoNOW (talk) 14:09, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@LeggoMyEggoNOW: I'll just have a coca-cola brand product. I don't like caffeine. Also please don't add excessive characters to your responses (such as errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr). ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:18, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Sorry. I know something you can drink, everyone has it, introducing *bangs drums* water! Honestly I have no idea what you would drink LeggoMyEggoNOW (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@LeggoMyEggoNOW: It's alright. I can drink pop as long as it's not caffeinated and some other stuff. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

You've got mailEdit

Hello, Blaze The Wolf. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.~TNT (she/her • talk) 18:49, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@TheresNoTime: Would it be alright if I replied here in response to the email as my email contains my real name so I would prefer not to use it if possible. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 18:51, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]

You are very welcome to   alternatively, I am currently active on the Wikimedia community discord. I would suggest a more private discussion given the context, but its your choice ~TNT (she/her • talk) 18:55, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@TheresNoTime: I'm unable to access the Discord right now as I"m in school which blocks Discord for obvious reasons (do you really think the school wants kids using social media during school?) although it's rather pointless because kids can simply not use school wifi to view social media websites on their phones. But that's just how I feel about it. Anyways, in response to the email, my age is the only personal info I will publicly disclose I have disclosed the city I live in however it was to only a few editors and it was merely because it would assist in editing subjects related to my city due to me being a local resident and therefore being able to access things that probably aren't available elsewhere, although that info can be oversighted if you would like due to the editors that would benefit from knowing my city knowing it and those who don't know don't know, however I will still bring it up in places where I see it as beneficial and relevant... this was a longer tangent than i expected. As I stated above I'm not willing to publicly disclose my email because it contains my real name. I could probably create an email for stuff on Wikipedia exclusively however I have no need to do so. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:02, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Yes I imagine that wouldn't end well for the school..! As I said in my email:
If you really wish to disclose your age [...], there is no specific policy which prevents you doing so.
The only further suggestion I have for you, should you still wish to disclose it, is to be careful how and where you do so. Many thanks ~TNT (she/her • talk) 19:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Will do. Thanks! ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:25, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Blaze, a few years ago, I created a separate GMail account just for Wikipedia business although my regular email now gets so much junk, my Wikipedia email is my new regular email address. It really makes things simpler to connect an email account without any personal information in the address and GMail is's just sometimes a problem to come up with an address that isn't already taken. I recommend it. Liz Read! Talk! 22:51, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Liz: I'll consider it, Also I thought you sent me an email and I was like, "Why are so many people emailing me now?"Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:57, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Ultimately if you would like to reveal certain personal information, while I think it unwise and would advise you against it, I would suggest you not be stopped from doing so. However, it is not alright to restore the birthdate of children, especially under the questionable summary that it was sourced (given that the "source" is inaccessible), as you did at a recently deleted A7. If you have any questions about this please let me know. Barkeep49 (talk) 23:47, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Barkeep49: Yes yes I've already been talked to about this for the 3rd time now. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:06, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I didn't know that having come here after closing an OS ticket and reading the conversation above. I'm glad the message has been heard. Barkeep49 (talk) 01:26, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Reverting editsEdit

Hello, Blaze The Wolf,

I'm posting here after looking at a page history of Sandy Marton where you got into an edit war with an IP editor who was making a big edit and removing content but who was correcting a problem with an article and you reinstated the bad content. I just wanted to drop you a note because I noticed you primarily (but not exclusively) revert IP editors. This is not uncommon among anti-vandalism editors (some of whom ONLY revert IP editors) but you really need to look at the edit and make sure it's a bad edit before reverting it. If it's not vandalism and you are reverting more than once, then you could be cited as being in an edit war yourself. While I've read that most vandalism is done by IP editors it's not true that most IP editors are vandals, the majority are just regular fact, I edited as an IP editor for a few years before deciding to create an account and I know that's true for a fair number of editors.

I think there is also an unconscious bias among most editors to support editors who have created accounts. IP editors are also less likely to complain on your talk page if you revert them so it is less likely for there to be consequences if you make a mistake with reverting their edits. This isn't a phenomenon specific to you, it's just an observation I've seen with editors here on Wikipedia.

So, all I'm trying to say here is to make sure you are being even-handed when dealing with IP editors vs. created account editors and check edits before you revert them. Sometimes big edits and content removal is a good edit even if the edit summary isn't that helpful or explanatory. Sound good? Thank you for your work on Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 23:19, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Liz: I might as well just quit anti-vandal work then.. I've tried learning how to spot the difference between good and bad edits at WP:CVUA but my issue is, my instructor doesn't appear to be actively working on teaching me as I complete the things (I literally just completed the 2nd part of it and still haven't gotten further). So if I can't tell the difference between good and bad edits then I should just quit. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:31, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

hi, I am posting on opera pages as a review place like another site place. but you remove my link. our link not as advertisement not much benefit for SEO because these link as a nofollow. I place it as a review. can you please tell me what's the difference between my link reference and other many sites which already show like my reference?

Workshop Follow-up: "What is the Best AI model for Content Moderation on Wikipedia?"Edit

Dear @Blaze The Wolf: following up our previous conversation, I would love to invite you for a workshop on the ORES model. I know you prefer non-zoom format, but we're struggling to meet every editor's preference. I would if you would consider using zoom without video (or simply dial in) to participate in the workshop? If so, would you mind filling up this short survey for our workshop: We are preparing the materials and hopefully can send out the scheduling survey by the end of this week! Please feel free to ping me if you have any questions! Thanks so much again! Bobo.03 (talk) 19:12, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Bobo.03: Hello Bobo! Nice to hear from you again. If at all possible I would prefer to do a Discord call (if you could possibly transmit the audio of the zoom through Discord) as I mainly only use Zoom with things that have to do with my personal life (I consider Wikipedia part of my online life). ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:17, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
If not then I will see what I can do to anonymize myself as much as possible on Zoom, although I may not be able to attend it depending on when it is due to my complex schedule. The best time for me would be the Saturday after next (although this may change). ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:20, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Thanks so much for your reply! I think you can keep anonymous on zoom if you choose the "dia in" option (or simply only showing your audio without video). We are flexible on this while linking Discord with Zoom might be a bit challenging for us :) If this works for you, would you mind fill in the survey above so we can plan the workshop with the editors? Thank again for your time! I really appreciate it!

Bobo.03 (talk) 20:05, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Bobo.03: I have filled in the survey. Do you have a date planned currently or no? I'm only asking as due to my schedule I'm only available to participate on certain dates. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:08, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Thanks so much! We haven't had a date planned but will send out a schedule link (e.g., When2meet) to your email address by the end of this week to understand your availability (currently my understanding is you are available next Saturday (10/23)), correct? Thanks!

Bobo.03 (talk) 20:24, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Bobo.03: No, I am available on 10/30 (tentatively) although 11/6 would be better since currently I won't have anything going on that day. On 10/23 I am out of town for something related to my school. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:50, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Got it, thanks! I will keep this mind when sending out the schedule survey! Meanwhile, please feel free to ping me if you have any questions! Bobo.03 (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Bobo.03: Alright! I'll make sure to let you know if anything with my schedule changes. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:00, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Sounds good. Thank you :) Bobo.03 (talk) 21:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Question from Martin Andrew Rowley (15:38, 12 October 2021)Edit

How do I create an entry for a business --Martin Andrew Rowley (talk) 15:38, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Martin Andrew Rowley: Hello Martin! Before I tell you how you create an article (not an entry) for a business, there are some things you need to be aware of. First, you need to make sure you don't have a Conflict of Interest with the subject of the article you're wanting to create, and you must make sure that if you're being paid by the business you disclose it on your userpage, see WP:PAID for info on how to do this. Second, is Wikipedia's notability guidelines, which determine whether or not something should have an article or not. In this case, you'll specifically want to look at the notability guidelines for businesses. If you've determined that the subject is notable then the next thing you'll want to do is take a look at your first article, which is a guide on creating your very first article. Creating a new article is very difficult and it's often recommended that new users get experience editing other articles before creating their first one. If you have any other questions feel free to let me know! ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:44, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Page reviewEdit

Please see User_talk:JBchrch#I_moved_Draft:Museums_of_Florence_back_to_draft_space where JBchrch stated

  • The applicable policies are WP:NOTESSAY and WP:PROMO. But the most important piece of policy you need to be aware of is WP:WIKIVOICE, which, unfortunately, your draft falls short of.

As I explained there, every one of those was an "incorrect" and I mean incorrect policy. If not explain how they apply. They are incorrect policy applications, and your confidence in the review process is misplaced, obviously. And of course you have given no reason at all why Museums in Paris can exist as a non-list but Museums of Florence can not.You gave no reasons. Why not? Ode+Joy (talk) 19:30, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Ode+Joy: Well first, I think there might be something wrong with your signature as when I use the reply tool it says it cannot find the section I'm attempting to reply to (although it might be some other issue). Also, your argument of Musemyseums in Paris isn't a list doesn't make a lot of sense as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS says this, "The nature of Wikipedia means that you cannot make a convincing argument based solely on whether other articles do or do not exist, because there is nothing stopping anyone from creating any article." My reasoning is that Museums of Florence as it is now would probably be better off as a list. I suggested that it be moved to draftspace so you can work on it, as Draft space is there so you can work on an article before it's ready to be moved to mainspace without the chance of it getting deleted because it isn't ready for an article yet. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 19:40, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: First, I will probably not work on it as a list. If I wanted to build a list I would have done that, as I mentioned on the talk page when I started the article. Your reasoning about Museums in Paris is, however, refreshingly correct! So contrary to popular opinion, a few people on Wikipedia actually understand policy. But you did not state how the policies quoted by JBchrch applied. I guess because you know they were incorrect. In any case, I have had enough of these nonsense discussions on the Afd. I will support your suggestions and get it moved to draft, so we can move on. Thanks. Ode+Joy (talk) 19:58, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ode+Joy: No problem! I don't know why no one told you that your argument didn't make sense and told you about OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Also I think I can see why they would say WP:WIKIVOICE would apply as reading your article myself I'm seeing some things that I wouldn't necessarily say are promotional, but could simply be worded in a better way. If you'd like I can help you clean up your draft so this doesn't happen again. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:03, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: I will not debate it further, but WIKIVOICE is about neutrality. This is not a controversial article, and there is no neutrality issue, given that no one disputes anything. JBchrch was just incorrect. Now, can I just move the article back to draft? I will move a few sentences to Florence itself and point the article to that section, then we will be done. The planet will survive without this article. Ode+Joy (talk) 20:08, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ode+Joy: Yes you can move the article back to draft, although you might need some assistance doing so due to the Draft page being a redirect to the mainspace. Again if you'd like me to help you with the draft I can, but it's entirely up to you if you want my assistance or not. Although I do want to say that I would wait on adding sentences to Florence that point to the section of the article you're making until the article goes to mainspace (although I may be interpreting what you're saying wrong). ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:15, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Blaze The Wolf: Look, I just want to be done with this dumb Afd discussion. Could you please move the page if you know how. Thanks. Ode+Joy (talk) 20:19, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ode+Joy: I can do that. MIght be a bit before the article is actually moved because I have to request the draft page to be deleted so I can actually move the mainspace page to the draftspace page. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Blaze The Wolf: Amazing. Someone on Wikipedia who is actually helpful? But you have been helpful, and aware of policy, which is more than I can say for the reviewers who are "preconditioned" to be tough and unreasonable due to the anger they get from the clueless users who want to build pages for bus stops near their house. Yes, I have seen an attempt to build a page for a bus stop. In any case, please move the page and we are done. Thanks. Ode+Joy (talk) 20:25, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

(talk page watcher) It's not appropriate to move this to draft mid-AFD. Blaze, please make sure you don't do so. Let the AFD runs it's course, and if the topic is deleted (versus draftified), you can generally ask for a refund to draft afterwards. -- ferret (talk) 20:30, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ferret: Ah alright, thank you for telling me. I'll undo my CSD on the draft page. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 20:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Note I haven't reviewed the article or looked at the in progress AFD. Simply noting the process has begun and moving it at this time is certain to result in a revert and more conflict. -- ferret (talk) 20:31, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ferret: @Blaze The Wolf: Can I request some type of "speedy conclusion" to the Afd? Then the course will have run. Right? Ode+Joy (talk) 20:34, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ode+Joy: Unfortunately it's not as simple as that. The closest thing there is to a speedy conclusion is either a WP:SNOW close or the nominator withdraws their nomination (which I have done multiple times because I don't look for sources as thoroughly as I should sometimes when trying to determine an article's notability). You have to wait 7 days after either the article is first nominate or the last vote is cast (I can't remember which one it is) if neither of the "speedy conclusions" I mentioned happen. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 23:23, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Blaze, I would have appreciated a ping on this. Thanks. JBchrch talk 12:35, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]


Hello Blaze The Wolf. I'm an administrator and also a moderator on the Discord, as you may have seen. I want to give you some advice, I see you are making a lot of comments at ANI and elsewhere recently. I don't think these comments are particularly helpful, I'll provide some examples and explain the issues with them:

  • Your comments in this discussion are not very helpful with regards to helping alleviate the overall dispute. As a new user, it isn't a good idea to get into disputes where passions are high, and it's especially not a good idea to be the first person to reply to the ANI not with help, but with a joke. Same goes for here- if you don't know what to do or say it's best to do nothing.
  • edits like these; EEng is a regular of these noticeboards and is usually joking with his comments and edits, you pointing out to him what he already likely knew may come off as annoying. I had some similar struggles when I was younger, too. My advice is to just not comment if you're not sure if someone is being serious or not.
  • I'm seeing a lot of comments at a few different places where you are guessing or admitting to not knowing everything when responding to a question from another (usually new) user. If you're not sure or are guessing, it is not a good idea to respond. You might end up giving someone advice that isn't correct, which could get them in trouble in the future. I mean this in a nice way, but because of this I really don't think you should be on the mentor list- you haven't been here long enough, you aren't currently knowledgeable enough to be one.
  • Discussions like this indicate you're having a hard time figuring out what to work on and do at Wikipedia. Early on, I had the same feeling- I made pointless, unhelpful comments at noticeboards, I would file a bunch of bad AFDs, I got rejected at PERM, and I was in general really all over the place. I felt very dejected and unwelcome, and briefly quit the project. Eventually I came back and focused on one particular area (addressing copyright violations), and focusing on this area allowed me to greatly improve my editing. Now, I am a pretty widely respected administrator.
  • I've noticed your above difficulties with anti-vandalism work. My advice is to not revert everything that's tagged as an issue; there's a lot of false positives tagged by software that are fine. If you're not sure if somethings vandalism, just don't revert it- there are plenty of anti vandals out there, and someone else can deal with that edit instead of you.

You are a newer editor, and a lot of your edits have been to behind the scenes stuff. This is not a healthy look for a newcomer, and in the (relatively) short time I've been an admin, I've seen this story countless times; a younger user tries to do a lot of different things and ends up being blocked in the end, because they are getting into more trouble than helping people. I will be upfront: the path you are currently on will likely end with you blocked. If you don't want this to happen, I suggest you stop your comments at ANI and other noticeboards, stop responding to questions at the Teahouse and other places, and finally, listen to the warnings and advice you have received from previous admins and users. If you don't listen to the advice from these users you are going to have a difficult time continuing on this project. My advice is to try and find a narrower area to work in and stay there for a while, and maybe expand your editing after a long time in that area- I didn't even really expand my editing that much until after I became an admin. It's that, or just taking a longer break from Wikipedia, and do something else. It's good to clear your mind and come back with a fresh prospective.

If you want to continue this conversation through DM or mail I am OK with that. Moneytrees🏝️Talk/CCI guide 00:48, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

I'm not going to beat on you or add much more to what Moneytrees has already said. I just want to state that I agree with his general views here. Slow it down in projectspaces. Get some focus in on content or general gnoming. But mostly, understand that this isn't just Moneytrees, or Liz from earlier, or Nick from earlier, or me. There's a pattern here, and you really need to read and listen. -- ferret (talk) 00:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
So you want me to quit Wikipedia. Because it feels like no matter what I try, I always manage to screw something up. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 01:59, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Fine. I can do that. If you don't appreciate the GOOD stuff I do then I might as well just not be here. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 02:00, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Why would you say that either of these editors want you to quit Wikipedia when neither said any such thing? Moneytrees took a lot of time and effort to give you some excellent advice. If that editor wanted you to quit, would they have spent so much time? Please recall that on March 30, over six months ago, I told you Unless you are sure that your answer is accurate and useful, please do not respond to questions at the Teahouse. Do not guess. We all want you to keep editing, but we want you to to edit in a consistently productive way. For example, I want you to answer Teahouse questions when you are 99+% sure that your answer is correct, but please do not guess or speculate, because incorrect answers are damaging to new editors and to the Teahouse. The same general principle applies everywhere on Wikipedia. Always strive to do no harm. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:10, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Blaze, I want you to listen to me. What the editors above are explaining to you is to benefit you and your editing experience here while also protect the project. We can't jump to the worst conclusions here, we aren't going to do that, okay? They are trying to give you sound advice and I know it seems terse and abrupt or blunt but I want you to understand from someone that you have communicated with and respects you greatly that no one commenting on this thread wants you to quit Wikipedia. If they did then they wouldn't spend time explaining things and offering advice. I joined the Teahouse to offer help but you see that I don't answer a lot. I'm still fairly new and I am taking time to learn policies and the ins and outs of the project so I can explain things better but I will not answer unless I am very confident. You are brilliant and very knowledgeable. You are an asset to this project. Take the advice and apply it to your editing practices, please. I know it hurts to be chastised and corrected. Please do not react too quickly. I am always here to discuss things in relation to your experiences here on Wikipedia or editing in general and offer sound advice as a wiki-friend and fellow editor. --ARoseWolf 15:40, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

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This user is the kindest, brilliant, and most unique person that I have run into. He indeed adds a special flavor to the overall experience of the Wiki. He helped me out when I was under rough water and dealt with the situation with no hesitation and succeeded in doing so. This user is very helpful and understanding. I appreciate what he does for the community. I hope he continues to help assist others because he does it very well! Doge456 (talk) 03:59, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]