User talk:Bilby/Archive 11

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Whatamidoing (WMF) in topic VisualEditor News #6—2015

VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014 edit

 
 

Did you know?

Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.

The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.

VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).

Recent improvements edit

Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.

You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.

You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".

Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "*  " will make the line a bullet list; "1.  " or "# " will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.

If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.

You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.

Looking ahead edit

VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)

The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January. Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.

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Merry Christmas! edit

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :)

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Happy New Year Bilby! edit

Incorrect photo attribution edit

Hi Bilby, I don't know that it would bother you, but in this Forbes article: http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnarcher/2014/09/17/the-ps4-and-xbox-one-are-already-out-of-date-round-2/ Your photo is incorrectly credited as "(Photo credit: Wikipedia)" instead of to you, directly.126.109.230.133 (talk) 05:33, 2 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Philip Nitschke edit

Hello, are you an admin here? I'm asking for your assistance as a 3rd set of eyes on what's happening at Philip Nitschke. Editor Claudio Santoz, who seems to have a poor grasp of English, is editing in material he has interpreted from a primary source, despite the availability of a preferred secondary source. The result is an unreadable shemozzle. Perhaps he should be encouraged to edit the section of Wikipedia in his own language? Jabba the Hot (talk) 02:45, 23 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Johnmoor being discussed at COIN again edit

It would help if you could repeat what you mentioned earlier User_talk:Bilby/Archive_10#Nofel_Izz along with any new info you may have: Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Editor_Johnmoor --Ronz (talk) 23:40, 26 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Happy New Year! edit

G'day Sunshine! Trust that you and yours are well and enjoying yourselves, and All the Best for 2015!
I'm interested by BarossaV's edits, and by my reactions to them. Although I'm not totally comfortable with his slash-and-burn approach, I have to admit that there's a lot of "stuff" on the various rail pages that really does need slashing & burning. Sadly, I'm genuinely ambivalent (i.e. confused) about where "the line" is. Any thoughts / comments / advice / whatever? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/GamerGate closed edit

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

1.1)

(i) The community Gamergate general sanctions are hereby rescinded and are replaced by standard discretionary sanctions, which are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, (a) GamerGate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed.

(ii) All sanctions in force when this remedy is enacted are endorsed and will become standard discretionary sanctions governed by the standard procedure from the moment of enactment.

(iii) Notifications issued under Gamergate general sanctions become alerts for twelve months from the date of enactment of this remedy, then expire. The log of notifications will remain on the Gamergate general sanction page.

(iv) All existing and past sanctions and restrictions placed under Gamergate general sanctions will be transcribed by the arbitration clerks in the central discretionary sanctions log.

(v) Any requests for enforcement that may be open when this remedy is enacted shall proceed, but any remedy that is enacted should be enacted as a discretionary sanction.

(vi) Administrators who have enforced the Gamergate general sanctions are thanked for their work and asked to continue providing administrative assistance enforcing discretionary sanctions and at Arbitration enforcement.

1.2)

Uninvolved administrators are encouraged to monitor the articles covered by discretionary sanctions in this case to ensure compliance. To assist in this, administrators are reminded that:

(i) Accounts with a clear shared agenda may be blocked if they violate the sockpuppetry policy or other applicable policy;

(ii) Accounts whose primary purpose is disruption, violating the policy on biographies of living persons, or making personal attacks may be blocked indefinitely;

(iii) There are special provisions in place to deal with editors who violate the BLP policy;

(iv) The default position for BLPs, particularly for individuals whose noteworthiness is limited to a particular event or topic, is the presumption of privacy for personal matters;

(v) Editors who spread or further publicize existing BLP violations may be blocked;

(vi) Administrators may act on clear BLP violations with page protections, blocks, or warnings even if they have edited the article themselves or are otherwise involved;

(vii) Discretionary sanctions permit full and semi-page protections, including use of pending changes where warranted, and – once an editor has become aware of sanctions for the topic – any other appropriate remedy may be issued without further warning.

The Arbitration Committee thanks those administrators who have been helping to enforce the community general sanctions, and thanks, once again, in advance those who help enforce the remedies adopted in this case.

2.1) Any editor subject to a topic-ban in this decision is indefinitely prohibited from making any edit about, and from editing any page relating to, (a) Gamergate, (b) any gender-related dispute or controversy, (c) people associated with (a) or (b), all broadly construed. These restrictions may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

4.1) NorthBySouthBaranof (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.1) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

5.3) Ryulong (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely banned from the English Language Wikipedia. They may request reconsideration of the ban twelve months after the enactment of this remedy, and every twelve months thereafter.

6.2) TaraInDC (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

7.2) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

7.3) Tarc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee.

8.2) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

8.3) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is prohibited from making any more than one revert on any one page in any 48-hour period. This applies for all pages on the English Wikipedia, except The Devil's Advocate's own user space. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.4) Subject to the usual exceptions, The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely prohibited from editing any administrative or conduct noticeboard (including, not not limited to; AN, AN/I, AN/EW, and AE), except for threads regarding situations that he was directly involved in when they were started. This restriction may be appealed to the Committee only after 12 months have elapsed from the closing of this case.

8.5) The Devil's Advocate (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is strongly warned that should future misconduct occur in any topic area, he may be banned from the English Wikipedia by motion of the Arbitration Committee. Further, the committee strongly suggests that The Devil's Advocate refrains from editing contentious topic areas in the future.

9) TheRedPenOfDoom (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is admonished for treating Wikipedia as if it were a battleground and advised to better conduct themselves.

10.1) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Tutelary (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Tutelary (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

12) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic bans preventing ArmyLine (talk · contribs), DungeonSiegeAddict510 (talk · contribs), and Xander756 (talk · contribs) from editing under the Gamergate general sanctions. The topic bans for these three editors are converted to indefinite restrictions per the standard topic ban.

13) The Arbitration Committee endorses the community-imposed topic ban preventing Titanium Dragon (talk · contribs) from editing under BLP enforcement. This ban is converted to an Arbitration Committee-imposed ban. Titanium Dragon is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

14.1) Loganmac (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

15) Willhesucceed (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is indefinitely restricted per the standard topic ban.

18) The Arbitration Committee urges that knowledgeable and non-conflicted users not previously involved in editing GamerGate-related articles, especially GamerGate-related biographies of living people, should carefully review them for adherence to Wikipedia policies and address any perceived or discovered deficiencies. This is not a finding that the articles are or are not satisfactory in their present form, but an urging that independent members of the community examine the matter in light of the case.

For the Arbitration Committee, Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Ratel/Ticklemeister ... edit

Since you are not only an admin but someone who has interacted with User:Ratel perhaps it would be useful and you might be interested in checking this current investigation

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This Month in Education: [January 2015] edit

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Doubt about deleted page - Thanks in advance edit

Hello Bilby, I am interested in the article Uscreen and noticed you deleted it. I just wanted to confirm with you if the deletion was entirely related to the user who created it, or if the content presents an anomaly or violation; if that is the case maybe I can edit the part that causes the issue.

The article title is Uscreen and the link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Uscreen&action=edit&redlink=1 Thanks for your help.

Regards, --Claudia wiki01 (talk) 02:20, 7 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi. The article is borderline as to whether or not it could survive a deletion discussion, but it was deleted because the user who created it was previously blocked, and was using a different account to evade their block. Under those circumstances we are required to delete the content. Unfortunately, this then creates a second problem, in that it is difficult to assume that new accounts which recreate the content are independent. - Bilby (talk) 02:55, 8 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your answer. I understand your point; I am an independent user, I have other contributions but most of them are in spanish; I do not intend to break any Wikipedia policy/rule, so I submitted my article for review, I'd rather do this than get blocked. Do you think this is a good way to proceed?

Thanks again :) Claudia wiki01 (talk) 15:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Are you aware of the disclosure requirements for paid editing? My feeling is that the article is not viable, but even if it was, you would need to fully disclose your employer and your relationship with the article subject. - Bilby (talk) 10:14, 10 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Woodson Michel edit

Why on earth was this page deleted? It had 5 independent sources; all fitting within the scope of notability. So it was created by a banned user. Your removal does more harm to the community than good. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the article. Please restore it or I will. Thanks Savvyjack23 (talk) 00:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Under WP:EVASION, we should delete articles created by banned or blocked editors if those articles are created in violation of their blocks. In this case, the editor runs a large sock farm to engage in undisclosed paid editing. This is against WP's policies and against the WMF's terms of use, hence my decision to both block the account and to delete the paid work. - Bilby (talk) 00:44, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
I should add that none of the sources were good - of the sources, only two appear to have been independent and non-trivial, and they were minor online publications publishing interviews, which therefore fall into the primary sources category. I can't see anything that would meet the notability requirements. - Bilby (talk) 00:54, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Well said; I withdraw my comment. However, it should be noted, that had I made a substantial edit (G5), I would have maintained my stance. Nevertheless, thank you for your contributions. Savvyjack23 (talk) 01:06, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

I agree with you fully about the project coming first - blindly following policy can be as bad as ignoring it. :) I did check the history, but I apologise for not informing you of what was happening - I saw that you had added a category and wikilinks, but should have followed that up. - Bilby (talk) 01:30, 11 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Wifione-paid editing amendment request edit

I've filed an amendment request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification_and_Amendment#Amendment_request:_Wifione.

I think everybody has had their say at Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Wifione/Proposed decision, so perhaps this notice is just a formality.

All the best,

Smallbones(smalltalk) 16:01, 15 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

Is there some reason you felt it necessary to edit my talk page? edit

While I don't especially care about the comment in question, I am curious as to why you felt it was necessary to remove it. Titanium Dragon (talk) 01:08, 19 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

My apologies - I think I was overly sensitive on your behalf. I read it as a subtle attack made in regard to the Wikipediocracy article, and overreacted on the grounds that too many people have been attacked on all sides of GG. - Bilby (talk) 04:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
It's alright; no harm, no foul. I was just wondering if something else was going on. Titanium Dragon (talk) 08:32, 22 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Precious again edit

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Thank you for reviewing in the Contributor copyright investigations/PumpkinSky! Paraphrasing (I hope not too closely): If everybody who reads this looked at one more article it could be over today. - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (18 August 2010)!

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Three years ago, you were the 31st recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 20 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Amendment request archived edit

Hi Bilby, an arbitration amendment request you were listed as a party to has been archived to the Wifione case talk page. A motion was proposed but did not gain enough support among arbitrators. For the Arbitration Committee, --L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 01:20, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Mark Kern - Better Balancing edit

Hello, I'm the one who originally put in the piece about Mark Kern and his petition, and I know you removed it because of balancing issues. I'm fairly new to this so I figured I'd seek some advice on how to better balance it. I've had people point me towards some additional sources so I was planning on reviewing it and rewriting it tonight. Is there anything in particular I should keep in mind? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpdarcia (talkcontribs) 21:28, 2 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

The problem is one of weight. A single petition doesn't exactly count for much, and shouldn't be given more weight that the rest of his career. It might warrant a sentence at this point, but that's probably as much as it is worth,unless it becomes more significant than it is at the moment. It is a common issue we hit with biographies - a single comment or action can be over presented to the point where it overshadows the rest of the biography. We need to consider each issue in terms of a person's overall biography, rather than in isolation. - Bilby (talk) 08:18, 3 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Notice of amended RfC edit

There is an RfC related to paid editing on which you commented or !voted, which was just amended. See Wikipedia_talk:Harassment#RfC:_Links_related_to_paid_editing Jytdog (talk) 21:55, 4 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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YOGA Venture edit

Hi Bilby, I just took notice of your tag about deletion. Quite frankly, I am very surprised because I follow the example of similar articles in the same category Yoga stubs: "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Yoga_stubs" . Many of these articles do not even have a single reference and are of lesser value. In my understanding, a stub article is expected to be expanded over time. My question is why would you discriminate among articles? I am looking forward to your understanding. Thank you. Patrickday357 (talk) 14:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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BLP violation? edit

Hi Bilby,

First of all, thanks for your continued civility. I appreciate your response to my questions on the whole GG thing. Now onto my current question, why are my edits to the Violet Blue page being continually redacted? I have no desire to get into any type of edit war, but it seems everything I wrote is well supported by RS. Would it be acceptable to reference the SF Weekly article without explicitly mentioning the birth name? Thanks for your help. Marcos12 (talk) 03:42, 26 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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VisualEditor News #2—2015 edit

 
Did you know?

With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:


 


Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:


 


After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.


The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.

Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.

The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.

Recent improvements edit

VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.

The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.

Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.

The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including AfrikaansAzerbaijaniBretonKyrgyzMacedonianMongolianTatar, and Welsh.

Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.

The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.

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Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).

Looking ahead edit

The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.

The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

BLP concerns edit

Special:Diff/654891783 and Special:Diff/654895980 you voiced BLP concerns while reverting my disambiguation expansions.

What is the issue at hand exactly? I studied BLP after seeing this happened and before contacting you but cannot find an answer.

CVV is sourced by Milo Yiannopoulos on Breitbart.com in an article published 1 September 2014. Zoe is not discussed "primarily in the terms of a single event" so I don't think she falls under the WP:BLP#Privacy of names restriction, if that's what people are getting at. It has been widely disseminated, and is directly involved in the article's topic. Ranze (talk) 11:03, 4 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I am not a paid editor. Kind Regards Cada mori (talk) 21:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Kati Agócs cleanup edit

I have noticed on the WP COI articles page of April 2015 that you have tagged the Kati Agócs page. I have made some changes to further improve WP:NPOV and I have removed the tag as instructed here. Thank you. Hansi667 (talk) 14:51, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to look into it. :) It is great to have it fixed. - Bilby (talk) 15:07, 22 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Nostradamus article dispute edit

Following yours to my User page, here is my latest reply, ijn case you didn't see it on said page:

Thanks for that. Yes, the external links section has been the main concern. Aquillion started by deleting the link to the only site featuring Mario Gregorio's actual facsimiles of Nostradamus's prophecies, without which the whole project falls to the ground. Then he substituted a particularly crass 'Sacred Books' site which, as I pointed out, is riddled with disinformation from beginning to end. Then he questioned my reliability or reputation as a source, until I deluged him with third party references on which he has chosen not to comment. He is still questioning Mario Gregorio's reputability, even though the facsimiles that he is trying to remove are copies of Nostradamus's own editions! And now he is picking to bits the text of what he has only just realised is a Featured Article of eight years' standing. And all that from a Wikipedant who knows next to nothing about Nostradamus, his language, his prophecies, their publishing history or subsequent attempts to interpret them -- and appears not even to have read and understood the Wikirubric which uses terms such as 'generally' and 'common sense'. Frankly, I've had it up to here, and as far as I'm concerned he can use somebody else's research. Best to you, however!
His latest, BTW, is 'Removing external links to blogspot, the yahoo group, and prophecies.it, per my reasoning in talk' -- long after all this has been settled as per the Talk page (q.v.) The man clearly doesn't understand the points at issue (let alone Nostradamus!), such as that the Yahoo group is being referred to not as an authority, but as a piece of information for any readers wiching to take advantage of such a group (and who, unlike him, are not spooked by the word 'Yahoo'!).
In short, he seems determined to pull the page apart in any way that he can, without reference to reason or common sense. In fact I am beginning to suspect that he is a secret 'Nostradamus nut', determined to remove all the factual content he can. Can you help restore some sanity, please?"

--PL (talk) 16:16, 8 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

To understand where he's coming from I'm afraid you're going to need to peruse all our correspondence on the Talk Page. But note especially where it starts (fake site included), and what he's now trying to resurrect in the article. Re his charges against the prophecies.it site, BTW, see this: I suspect he has been fooled by commercial sites pinpointing fake 'problems' and offering to sell him 'solutions' -- if indeed he's not just inventing supposed objections one after the other to try and devalue the article's factual content. --PL (talk) 10:18, 24 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

The Signpost: 22 April 2015 edit

Removal justifications edit

I'm kinda confused how the issue of our previous discussion relates to this current issue. I don't really think what I added falls within the realm of discussing GG because even though there is some mention in these articles of GG, I am not citing them to discuss that, I am citing them as evidence that CalEx is being covered in the news over expelling a booth.

Unfortunately the only reliable sources I could find about the issue incorporate that info. I avoided discussing that info based on the topic ban, but I think that should still allow me to discuss the CalEx issue in broader terms, which I think I did. How much more neutral could I have made it?

Do you think the edit was actually an inaccurate one? Did I make any false claims in it? Would you have removed this if someone else had made it? Ranze (talk) 08:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

I'm neutral about including coverage of the issue - it seems minor judging by mainstream press, but, as I am sure you are aware, it is a big deal in GamerGate due to the connection between GamerGate and the booth. Leaving out that connection doesn't mean that the event wasn't related to GG, and it falls under the scope of the topic ban. - Bilby (talk) 15:11, 26 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

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I have a feeling that the IP address that is currently attempting to change the "best known" on the Tom Baker article is the same IP who attempted it before (200.83.136.145). If it is, he has been blocked numerous times before (see the talk page of that IP, where he mentions being blocked again). The current IP (200.83.115.216) uses strikingly similar reasoning and word usage, as well as being insulting with his edit summaries (calling you "determined to be dishonest"). Lol. He actually changed it again as I was typing this. I bring this up for a few reasons. A) If it is the same person, then he is getting around his block. B) He is not going to stop. C) I know there are things that can be done about editors like this (does sockpuppetry come into play here?) but am unsure how to go about them myself. Thoughts? Vyselink (talk) 01:37, 1 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

How about following the core policies of the encyclopaedia, and thanking people who care about them instead of trying to hound them away from the project? 200.83.115.216 (talk) 03:46, 1 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Cada mori.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:44, 3 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I have some information on Cada mori, although I'll need to go over what I have to see if I've got anytghing that can help with an SPI. Unfortunately I'm travelling, though, with only very spotty internet access in cafes. I'll try and get to thsi if I can grab the access, otehrwise I'll tackle it as soon as I'm home. - Bilby (talk) 12:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Dear Bilby, I believe you protected the wrong version of Wilderness hut, you actually protected the vandals version`? Dan Koehl (talk) 07:49, 10 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

It is only protected against IP editing due to block evasion. Autoconfirmed editors can still change it. - Bilby (talk) 08:37, 10 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
If this place was about building an encyclopaedia, then the idiotic restoration of appallingly flawed material along with false accusations of vandalism would not be tolerated. Anyone so stupid as to restore ungrammatical misspelled unencyclopaedic nonsense to the encyclopaedia would quickly be shown the door. But this is Wikipedia, where the war on quality is taken very seriously. People who try to improve the encyclopaedia are to be attacked without pause, while those who have no understanding of how to write, let alone how to write in accordance with clearly defined policies, are rewarded with extra powers to attack the knowledgeable and skilled. No less than five different people think that "The fires should never left unattended" and "Often no WC exist, and general rule requires that toilet wastes should be buried" is the kind of writing that must be forced into articles. You obviously never actually looked at the shit you forced back in. Wikipedia is a laughing stock, and editors like you are the butt of all the jokes. 186.9.135.227 (talk) 01:31, 11 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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FYI, you reverted unproven -> false twice within the 1RR period. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 19:08, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

I regarded it as a BLP concern, based on previous discussions. - Bilby (talk) 21:34, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Bilby. Can you explain how this user you blocked was linked to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kickingback77? I can't see them mentioned there, but this edit copied content from User:Trident13/Rajagopalan and I suspect that I've found more socks of Trident13 here: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nmwalsh. Cheers SmartSE (talk) 19:59, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

Albsrosed was an account created to post the Bal Rajagopalan article as a result of a job ad on Elance. The ad was placed on September 9, 2014, and marked as complete on September 13, which made it clear that the article creation was by the same person who was hired to write it, who was also the person in charge of the other accounts that were blocked in the SPI. The same Elance client hired Trident13 to create an article for them in January 2014, which is where the crossover occurs. In the ad they stated that they had the text ready, so I assume they provided the same or very similar text to Albsrosed.
Your thoughts about NWalsh and Trident13 are really interesting. It is possible, although there is about a month when Nmwalsh was accepting jobs and Trident13 was unblocked. - Bilby (talk) 22:07, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Ah ok. That makes sense. I agree that it's not clear cut with Trident13 but there are certainly enough suspicions. The more I've looked at Nmwalsh the clearer it is that they're NOT HERE so it's a bit academic and it seems impossible to tell meats from socks when it comes to elance. Btw - is there any kind of off-wiki list for keeping track of editors advertising on freelancing sites? SmartSE (talk) 23:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'm not aware of any public listing of jobs, as that would raise outing concerns. I'm aware that there are a few editors who keep track of job ads, as I do, but nothing that can be made public. There has been a couple of attempts to maintain lists on-wiki, but other than the outing problem we run into an issue where some paid editors use descriptions on Elance and elsewhere that they've taken from other people on wiki, so it has been difficult to conclusively connect an on-wiki account to someone on Elance without identifying the jobs and working backwards. - Bilby (talk) 01:15, 18 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I should have explained myself better... I was wondering whether you or others had a way of keeping tabs on paid editors privately to avoid the outing problems. Seeming as I (and presumably others) don't have a religious opposition to PE (only crappy promotional editing) it would be helpful to know who is suspected of advertising on elance to speed up the detection of promotional content and avoid duplicated investigations. For example, I noticed that Worthywords' contribs looked dodgy about a year ago, but ended up not doing anything resulting in a worse mess to clear up. Obviously we'd have to still judge content rather than editors and as you point out they can be devious bastards, but if we could share suspicions privately, we'd be more likely to spot patterns. SmartSE (talk) 18:05, 18 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Sorry for the confusion. Yes, I keep records, and have been open about that in the past. I also don't have a religious opposition to paid editing. My view is that we can;t stop it, so we need to try and go for transparency, per the terms of use. Accordingly, if paid editors meet the disclosure requirement and don't do anything against policy, I note them but don't get involved. If they engage in undisclosed paid editing I inform them of the Terms of Use, and if they repeatedly break policy (socks, spam, vote stacking, etc) I try to build up a case based on on-wiki editing. If banned or blocked editors continue to take jobs then I try to act. In an ideal WP the paid editors who work within policy and are open will dominate over those who break policy, but that's not currently the case.
So to get back to your question, I have records going back about five years. The old database which I no longer use got stupidly large, so these days I keep a simpler list, which is limited to about 20-30 paid editors, and perhaps 1000 to 2000 jobs. - Bilby (talk) 20:29, 19 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
That's astonishing to me that there are that many jobs out there to edit Wikipedia. Liz Read! Talk! 00:46, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Generally each job site will see between 1 and 6 WP jobs per day, across the four main sites. Some days there's a bit more, and occasionally work drops back. This adds up to a lot of jobs over a year, although only about half seem to end up going ahead. The number of editors taking them is proportionally small, with about 6-7 active WP editors taking jobs per site, some of whom are the same on each of the four. - Bilby (talk) 05:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Wow that is quite an undertaking. And yes I agree that in an ideal world paid editors would write neutrally and only about notable subjects, but that's not going to happen any time soon! It would be good if interested editors could share information. User:Doc_James mentioned something similar here today. Do any others think it would be useful to share resources? (User:Pharaoh of the Wizards, User:Brianhe, User:Duffbeerforme, User:Logical Cowboy ?) SmartSE (talk) 18:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I've shared notes with LogicalCowboy when something came up, and help out anywhere I. I tend to be cautious, as I don't want to be involved in outing, although most people active in this area know to be careful. - Bilby (talk) 05:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'd be interested in sharing notes. My data is nowhere as comprehensive as Bilby's as I've just recently started pursuing integrity problems seriously. I'm very concerned about the institutionalization of means and ways to corrupt Wikipedia, specifically Morning277's ongoing attacks, but anybody else who's proudly making a career of it. I've recently come to suspect some users of building credentials to participate in his "ring" as Wikipedia administrators, and would welcome a chance to discuss my thoughts with others. — Brianhe (talk) 19:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I haven't noticed many en.WP admins involved in paid editing, but I agree that it is a risk. I have noticed two WMF employees, (one of whom was identified), and admins and bureaucrats on other wikis taking en.WP jobs. - Bilby (talk) 05:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
I keep a private list of some paid sock armies. Worthywords discloses that she is a paid editor but many others do not. I have had a fair bit of success getting Fiverr and Elance to take down accounts involved with paid editing.
Many paid editors use one Wikipedia account per job and thus closing down their accounts on other sites has a greater effect than closing down their socks. I am hoping to get the WMF to direct some resources to the issue of undisclosed paid editing if I am elected to the board of trustees. Use co-ordinating more is definitely a good idea. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:23, 21 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Closing down the off-wiki accounts isn't a bad idea, as it prevents them from building up a reputation. However, it also makes them harder to track, as there is a risk that they'll open up a new account and continue to take jobs. If they do they need to be re-identified, which can be tricky. I've never been sure which was the best approach - identify, tag, and watch, or see about having the account. Possibly the latter, but all we can do is harm minimization either way. - Bilby (talk) 05:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

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re: GGC talk page: Does "normal means" include reporting them to AE, 3RR, or other Admin forums? Because there have been a number of 10/4 users ban or blocked for sock puppets, 1RR, etc. I know they are supposed to be recorded somewhere, but I never figured it out. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:20, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply

EncyclopediaBob, August* (can find this one righ tnow), Marcos12 (block), Galestar (TBan) ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
Plus the constant 10/4s that post about the lede (same thing over and over and over). Check the archive. Also, the flyby edits that get reverted because of not talking to the group of editors. ForbiddenRocky (talk) 17:43, 20 May 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Would you be able to add any sources to any of the draft pages at User:BOZ/Draft pages? I am trying to get them improved enough to move back into article space. BOZ (talk) 04:14, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Shall do. One more day of marking assignments, and then I get something resembling a life back. And I'd love to help. :) - Bilby (talk) 05:49, 14 July 2015 (UTC)Reply
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Hello,

I noticed that you rejected my edits on The Fine Young Capitalists page due to the unreliability of my sources. With that in mind, what were the exact criteria that rendered my sources unreliable? I'm aware of the standard requirements for citing reliable research, but seeing as this article sites news sources like the Daily Dot, my knowledge is essentially rendered inapplicable. What were my sources missing?

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Oobooglunk (talk) 17:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

The stronger the statement you make about someone, the more important the source - in this case, the accusation is quite strong, so we would need a similarly strong source to support it. The source you employed, One Angry Gamer, is a blog and not sufficiently reliable to support such a strong claim. - 23:51, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Although I have never heard such a claim and was under the impression that all sources should be (more or less) equally reliable, I respect your criteria and would be happy to offer more reliable sources.

Zoe Quinn: http://apgnation.com/articles/2014/09/09/6977/truth-gaming-interview-fine-young-capitalists

Aerox's profile, where he describes himself as an "occasional writer at Destructoid": http://bioischanged.com/Aerox47

As I am unable to view my edit on the page, I am unsure if I had made any other claims that needed more reliable sources. If there's anything I'm missing, you can let me know and I'd be happy to support my claims.

Lastly, I was curious why you deleted my edit outright instead of placing an "Unreliable Sources" template and why the Daily Dot source is considered, by your definition, reliable.

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The reliability of any given source varies based on what it is being used to support. When we make claims about living people - especially negative claims that could cause them harm - the quality of the sources needs to be much higher than those we might use for comparatively trivial issues. Accordingly, we can't say that The Daily Dot is invariably reliable, as it depends on what it is used for.
In this case I had to remove the content, as you made negative claims about living people, and they can't be left in the article if they are not adequately sourced. In regard to the interview, we can regard that as a reliable source for the opinions of Matthew Rappard in regard to Quinn, but not for factual statements about Quinn. Especially given that Quinn's account differed from Rappard's. - Bilby (talk) 00:25, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

What exactly is the negativity that I should tone down? Any particular facts that I mentioned in my edit? Oobooglunk (talk) 02:28, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

At the time, the specific concerns were related to naming an individual as being responsible for doxing one the TFYC members, leading to death threats. In relation to your lastest addition, it was reverted by someone else, but I subsequently removed it on the grounds that you made claims that did not line up with the material in the source. At any rate, it looks like Ryk72 has started a discussion regarding this on the [Talk:The_Fine_Young_Capitalists|talk page]], which would be the best place for it, although you will need to be cautious about your wording due to the risks on making claims that could harm some of the people involved. - Bilby (talk) 06:21, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

Hi Bilby, just a quick "Cheers, mate" for the RD2. I think there's a potential for some inclusion, if properly & clearly phrased as opinion, but felt the phrasing inserted was non-compliant. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 06:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)Reply

VisualEditor News #5—2015 edit

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Click the pencil icon to open the editor for a page. Inside that, use the gear menu in the upper right corner to "Switch to visual editing".

The editing button will remember which editing environment you used last time, and give you the same one next time. The desktop site will be switching to a system similar to this one in the coming months.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs, added new features, and made some small design changes. They post weekly status reports on mediawiki.org. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages like Japanese and Arabic, making it easier to edit on mobile devices, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements edit

Educational features: The first time you use the visual editor, it now draws your attention to the Link and ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽ tools. When you click on the tools, it explains why you should use them. (T108620) Alongside this, the welcome message for new users has been simplified to make editing more welcoming. (T112354) More in-software educational features are planned.

Links:  It is now easier to understand when you are adding text to a link and when you are typing plain text next to it. (T74108T91285) The editor now fully supports ISBN, PMID or RFC numbers. (T109498, T110347, T63558)  These "magic links" use a custom link editing tool.

Uploads:  Registered editors can now upload images and other media to Commons while editing. Click the new tab in the "Insert Images and media" tool. You will be guided through the process without having to leave your edit. At the end, the image will be inserted. This tool is limited to one file at a time, owned by the user, and licensed under Commons's standard license. For more complex situations, the tool links to more advanced upload tools. You can also drag the image into the editor. This will be available in the wikitext editor later.

Mobile:  Previously, the visual editor was available on the mobile Wikipedia site only on tablets. Now, editors can use the visual editor on any size of device. (T85630)  Edit conflicts were previously broken on the mobile website. Edit conflicts can now be resolved in both wikitext and visual editors. (T111894) Sometimes templates and similar items could not be deleted on the mobile website. Selecting them caused the on-screen keyboard to hide with some browsers. Now there is a new "Delete" button, so that these things can be removed if the keyboard hides. (T62110) You can also edit table cells in mobile now.

Rich editing tools:  You can now add and edit sheet music in the visual editor. (T112925)  There are separate tabs for advanced options, such as MIDI and Ogg audio files. (T114227 and T113354)  When editing formulæ and other blocks, errors are shown as you edit. It is also possible to edit some types of graphs; adding new ones, and support for new types, will be coming.

On the English Wikipedia, the visual editor is now automatically available to anyone who creates an account. The preference switch was moved to the normal location, under Special:Preferences.

Future changes edit

You will soon be able to switch from the wikitext to the visual editor after you start editing. (T49779) Previously, you could only switch from the visual editor to the wikitext editor. Bi-directional switching will make possible a single edit tab. (T102398) This project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, similar to the system already used on the mobile website. The "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time.

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This is regarding the page Antano Solar Following is the log: 07:42, 29 October 2015 Bilby (talk | contribs) deleted page Antano Solar (G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban) 13:53, 14 June 2015 Ireneshih (talk | contribs) marked Antano Solar as reviewed 13:53, 14 June 2015 Ireneshih (talk | contribs) marked revision 666903759 of page Antano Solar patrolled

Can you please elaborate who is the blocked or banner user who created this page? As that seems to be the reason for the sudden deletion of this page.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar345 (talkcontribs) 18:52, 3 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

The article was created by a sock of the indefinitely blocked editor, User:Highstakes00. Along with the creation by a blocked editor, it was also created without acknowledging the relationship to the client, creating a problem with Wikipedia's Terms of Use, which require disclosure of commercial arrangements when editing for payment. Unfortunately, there has been an ongoing problem with some people misrepresenting themselves as editors in good standing to clients, creating a situation where they charge clients for work without (presumably) informing the clients that any work they perform is subject to removal if spotted. This may not be the case here - the editor concerned may well have explained the situation to the client - but it creates a difficult scenario for the project. - Bilby (talk) 08:31, 4 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the response. I had no idea or even know who is Highstakes00. I understand from you that it was a sock of HighStakes00. Can you please share who created the article? I was in contact with a person who informed me that she is a professional writer who can write an article that meets the guidelines of wikipedia by doing research on the web about the subject. My request is to get access to the content, since it was well written, I would like to place a request in the creation of article. And also if there was anything that was in violation of wiki terms I want to understand it fully so that I can help as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar345 (talkcontribs) 08:38, 6 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
resuming that you represent the client, I assumed that you would be able to recreate the page from the original copy provided to the contractor? Or is that not an option any more? - Bilby (talk) 06:19, 7 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I do not represent the client to any sock. My only professional contract was to get Indu Khanna to write a copy that would be acceptable to Wikipedia. And instead of delivering it to me first, she got it published as well. The page is the only reference of the copy. And at that time I didn't see a need to duplicate that writing and to take backup. And now that the page is deleted I do not have a way to get access to the original copy. And that is why I am requesting you. And also, I am still curious to know as posted in my last two messages, who is the editor who wrote the article, who according to you is a sock of Highstakes00. From the log I notice, Ireneshih had reviewed the page. I do not see who created it, was it the same person? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar345 (talkcontribs) 18:34, 7 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I'm a bit confused. I thought you were representing Antano Solar? Is that not the case? At any rate, the creator of the article was User:Mattitie. - Bilby (talk) 02:27, 9 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I am Antano Solar! And that is why I going to request for someone else in the community to create the article. And in order to do that I would like to make use of the research already done in terms of the secondary references available on the web. And hence, I am requesting you to grant me access to the contents of the deleted page, in any way that is convenient and acceptable to you. And thank you for the input on the banned sock who originally created the page. I can only wonder why would a banned sock do that unless he or she was commercially engaged. And why would the person I hired for drafting the contents of the article hire a sock to create the article instead of just requesting someone in the community? Anyways, appreciate your help in both providing me the source of the original page as well as keeping wiki clean! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar345 (talkcontribs) 11:25, 10 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I was informed the there was an advertisement on Upwork calling for a Wikipedia editor to create this page. The freelancer was provided with the text to use, although not the references, and I gathered the person posting the job claimed to be you. Accordingly, I assumed that you still had access to the original text that was provided.
I'll have a look at the article and get back to you on it. So long as there are no major issues it shouldn't be a problem, although I admit I'm a bit uncomfortable given the circumstances. As a recall, it might need a substantial rewrite, and may not meet Wikipedia's sourcing requirements. The editor concerned both created the article and then used another sock to approve it, so it has skipped the normal processes. If recreated, you will to put it through the Articles for Creation process in order to make sure that it will be kept. - Bilby (talk) 07:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Absolutely! I assure you, it will ONLY be put through the Articles for Creation process. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.174.59.62 (talk) 17:14, 14 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
I have moved it to User:Solar345/Antano Solar. - Bilby (talk) 04:36, 18 November 2015 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! :) I am submitting it for review by creating it as a draft here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Ready_for_submission — Preceding unsigned comment added by Solar345 (talkcontribs) 17:05, 18 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Hello Dear Bilby, please help to start this article. Thank you very much. Best regards, Helen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.154.136 (talk) 02:31, 22 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

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VisualEditor News #6—2015 edit

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A new, simpler system for editing will offer a single Edit button. Once the page has opened, you can switch back and forth between visual and wikitext editing.

 
If you prefer having separate edit buttons, then you can set that option in your preferences, either in a pop-up dialog the next time you open the visual editor, or by going to Special:Preferences and choosing the setting that you want:
 

The current plan is for the default setting to have the Edit button open the editing environment you used most recently.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has fixed many bugs and expanded the mathematics formula tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. Their current priorities are improving support for languages such as Japanese and Arabic, and providing rich-media tools for formulæ, charts, galleries and uploading.

Recent improvements edit

You can switch from the wikitext editor to the visual editor after you start editing.

The LaTeX mathematics formula editor has been significantly expanded. (T118616) You can see the formula as you change the LaTeX code. You can click buttons to insert the correct LaTeX code for many symbols.

Future changes edit

The single edit tab project will combine the "Edit" and "Edit source" tabs into a single "Edit" tab, like the system already used on the mobile website. (T102398) Initially, the "Edit" tab will open whichever editing environment you used last time. Your last editing choice will be stored as a cookie for logged-out users and as an account preference for logged-in editors. Logged-in editors will be able to set a default editor in the Editing tab of Special:Preferences in the drop-down menu about "Editing mode:".

The visual editor will be offered to all editors at the following Wikipedias in early 2016: Amharic, Buginese, Min Dong, Cree, Manx, Hakka, Armenian, Georgian, Pontic, Serbo-Croatian, Tigrinya, Mingrelian, Zhuang, and Min Nan. (T116523) Please post your comments and the language(s) that you tested at the feedback thread on mediawiki.org. The developers would like to know how well it works. Please tell them what kind of computer, web browser, and keyboard you are using.

In 2016, the feedback pages for the visual editor on many Wikipedias will be redirected to mediawiki.org. (T92661)

Testing opportunities edit

  • Please try the new system for the single edit tab on test2.wikipedia.org. You can edit while logged out to see how it works for logged-out editors, or you can create a separate account to be able to set your account's preferences. Please share your thoughts about the single edit tab system at the feedback topic on mediawiki.org or sign up for formal user research (type "single edit tab" in the question about other areas you're interested in). The new system has not been finalized, and your feedback can affect the outcome. The team particularly wants your thoughts about the options in Special:Preferences. The current choices in Special:Preferences are:
    • Remember my last editor,
    • Always give me the visual editor if possible, 
    • Always give me the source editor, and 
    • Show me both editor tabs.  (This is the current state for people using the visual editor. None of these options will be visible if you have disabled the visual editor in your preferences at that wiki.)
  • Can you read and type in Korean or Japanese? Language engineer David Chan needs people who know which tools people use to type in some languages. If you speak Japanese or Korean, you can help him test support for these languages. Please see the instructions at mw:VisualEditor/IME Testing#What to test if you can help, and report it on Phabricator (Korean - Japanese) or on Wikipedia (Korean - Japanese).

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