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Delicious carbuncle

OMG OMG OMG DO IT DO IT DO IT! And, when you do begin whatever dispute resolution process with Dc and his socks (and I highly suggest Arbcom or some other advanced level since most other attempts have tried and failed), let me know so I can weigh in with my two cents.207.237.230.164 (talk) 22:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

P.S.: Delicious carb, Bali ulti, or Hulla wolf, enter rude comment here, please: 207.237.230.164 (talk) 22:53, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

• I'm sure you already recognise this Bearian but I guess it wouldn't hurt to remind you that you are far too involved in this case and clearly too emotionally invested to exercise any admin functions around Delicious Carbuncle. Cheers Spartaz ^Humbug! 05:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps that's because Bearian has seen Dc's behavior for what it is. Ans I'm sure any other Admin will recognize the same. 207.237.230.164 (talk) 15:04, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• Yes, I am probably far to personally involved to take part in any such sysop actions, and it is just as well. Bearian (talk) 16:38, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Common law marriage in Scotland?

Hi. I noticed your statement from an AFD last year: "Scotland is the birthplace of common law marriage...".

Do you have a source for that? Please see the link I provide at Talk:Scots family law. Ta. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of suitable age and discretion

Hello! Your submission of suitable age and discretion at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BelovedFreak 11:32, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thanks for The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar, it's really a great honor for me. Angelo De La Paz (talk) 17:16, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Survey on quality control policies

As part of a project funded by the European Commission (QLectives), we are collecting and analysing data to study quality control mechanisms and inclusion/deletion policies in Wikipedia. According to our records, you participated in a large number of AfD. We are currently soliciting editors with a long record of participation in AfD discussions to send us their feedback via a very informal survey.

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Thanks for your help! --DarTar (talk) 10:25, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

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Dean Willard

Under AfD again. Could you please drop by and give it your read?  kgrr ^talk 14:57, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

New sock of Islamuslim

Hi Brian! I just found out a new created account which I think it's a new sock of Islamuslim, a Muslim serial vandal. Let's take a look at Gimbo Vales and we could see the same vandalism motivations:

Fir more information: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Islamuslim/Archive

Always claiming Muslim population must be between over 1.8 to 2 billion in various articles:

• Gimbo Vales: [1][2]
• Other blocked accounts: [3],[4] (as AnandVisho), [5] (as Islamuslim)

Deleting sources which show-off the evidence of Islamic terrorism and reworded opposite contents to friendly Muslim contents.

• • Islamism ([6])
  • Islamic terrorism ([7])
  • Apostasy in Islam ([8])
  • Islam and blasphemy ([9])
  • Talk:Jihad ([10])
  • Talk:Eurabia ([11])

Never sign its name and always blanking its Talk Page

• Gimbo Vales
• AnandVisho
• AmazingAthiest
• Islamuslim

Angelo De La Paz (talk) 09:06, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. Not again. Yep -- that would appear to be our friend. Do we need to block his IP as well?--Epeefleche (talk) 09:14, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Eric Ely

I have nominated Eric Ely, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eric Ely. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Off2riorob (talk) 19:08, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you looked into Jimbo's idea of adding this to Wikinews? Stephen B Streater (talk) 17:45, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Jansenguus

Hello. Looks like this user had left a confusing message for you back on March 16th. What he meant was that you'd blocked 203.111.229.246 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (his ip address). As you can see, that particular ip has engaged in some not-so-great editing. They've just again been blocked this today.

I just happened to notice this & thought I might clear it up. Take care. Dawnseeker2000 17:37, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Nice of you to do that. Have a good day. Dawnseeker2000 16:12, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Request

Could I ask you to revisit the precise wording of your closing comments here?. I actually think they are correct and clear as they are, but Pigsonthewing [12][13][14] and MJroots [15] are using them as justification for reinserting the date of birth (misquoting you in the process), against consensus (and frankly BLP, in my view, in view of the subject's complaints), and I think your intent. Maybe adding "for the date of birth to be included" to the end", just for clarity. --Slp1 (talk) 14:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Turks in India

I reverted your recent addition to this article. You'll notice that the State Department's background note refers to Babur as "Turkish-Mongol". This does not mean that he had one ancestor from Ulan Bator and another from Ankara. Instead this is a (rather idiosyncratic/outdated) way of saying "Central Asian of some sort, probably 'Altaic'-speaking".

I filed the AfD precisely because I disagree that the "Turks in India" lemma should contain content about Central Asian conquerors --- we already have a perfectly good article and properly named about that topic: Mughal Empire. And the other topic that might go at this lemma, "Turkish citizen expatriates in India" (NOT the same thing as the guys who conquered India), appears to fail WP:N

I am perfectly happy to see the article kept if you find actual sources about Turkish citizens people in India. Even if it is just tabloid stuff Turkish medical tourism or Turkish beachgoers in Goa. But I don't accept this revisionist attempt to conflate Turkish citizens with Persian-speaking Central Asian conquerors. Otherwise we might as well next make an article about "Germanics in India" to tell us that a few Dutch expatriates live in Mumbai and also the British Empire was run by Germanic speakers and ruled the whole country, or "Sino-Tibetans in India" to conflate the Chinese of Kolkata, the exiles at Dharamsala, and the Newari speakers in Sikkim. cab (talk) 05:43, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

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A new editor writes

I'm new to editing Wikipedia, and you were the signer on two recent reversions made to contributions of mine.

I signed up to contribute to Wikipedia, after seeing this article and then educating myself on Wikipedia's policy of neutrality.

John Q. Public, who hasn't a stake, in any fashion (unless you count humanism), feels the use of the terms fringe and conspiracy are contradictory to Wikipedia's published policies, and I subsequently, edited them out. If the consenus of the editors (regardless of their stance on the actual content of the article) is that the use of the word conspiracy is not controversial at least and therefore meets requirements for being thoroughly examined and removed, then previous talk pages regarding this article need to be examined.

By the way, I do hope, and please help me to correct myself, I put this in the correct place. Wikipedia's use of talk pages differs from my view of them, and seems to be based on tribal knowledge. I encourage and ask that if I've set this wrongly, from a technical standpoint, I be pointed out the place and manner in which replies to reversions, etc. should be handled.

Regards, Erelas RyAlcar (talk) 20:09, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Starting a new section with the new section button makes it clearer that you are starting a new discussion. Stephen B Streater (talk) 20:40, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, that does indeed look and appear so much better. Erelas RyAlcar (talk) 22:36, 14 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erelas RyAlcar (talk • contribs) 22:24, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

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Notability

How is an article declare notable? I don't want a reference, I want a straight answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Welshdave86 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

东方红

• 东方红 formerly had DIFFERENT content from 'The East is Red'. to the best of my memory:
  • Contents of 东方红
    • Dong Fang Hong (a space program)
    • The East is Red (song)
    • The East is Red (film), from the Cultural Revolution.
  • Contents of The East is Red
    • The East is Red (song)
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  • for the two reasons and evidence given above, 东方红 is not a mere duplicate and should have stayed.

Deleting an article after discussion from two or three users sets a bad precedent. Learn more Chinese before creating randomly flagging articles for deletion. 华钢琴49 (TALK) 01:06, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Suitable age and discretion

On April 18, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Suitable age and discretion, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For finding sockpuppetry as noted at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Welshdave86/Archive, and for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grant Avalon with a delete. I was just trying to be nice to a newbie, and got punk'd. Bearian (talk) 16:21, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Really a shame, as i was also hoping that there would be something salvageable for that user (That's why i left the SSP case open for two days). However seeing the consistent use of very-likely sockpuppets, an IRC discussion i had with him, the edits made by that IP user, the AFC article and the fact he admitted that all 3 accounts were on the same WIFI meant i ended up with some of these. Hopefully the next user is a better one though - its more satisfying to help a user then to block a sockpuppet in my opinion. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 16:43, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

KWW

Hi Bearian - Just FYI, I have indented your double vote here.  7  23:19, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

O.K., my error. I fixed it on the AfD page. Bearian (talk) 23:46, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion nomination of Eric Ely

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Rylands v Fletcher

A group of Aussie and lolbrit editors are trying to get Rylands v Fletcher to FA; the draft we're working on is at User:Ironholds/draft. We're sorely lacking an American perspective on the case - interested? Ironholds (talk) 10:17, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back?

To whomever you are! Bearian (talk) 22:27, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, but I'm not sure I understand your meaning. To my knowledge, I never left. --causa sui (talk) 22:29, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, you changed your user name in any case. Bearian (talk) 22:35, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Do I know you? It must have slipped my mind. --causa sui (talk) 22:36, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

MUNDP

I have improved the sources of Model United Nations Development Programme. Can you check if it is okay and won't be deleted ? Offspring31 (talk) 22:57, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

tb

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Are you still unwilling

to take action against DC? I mean, you've seen his work over and over and as an administrator, you should take SOME responsibility with what you see. It's very easy to say "I'm too involved" and turn the cheek...but why? 38.96.206.111 (talk) 04:50, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

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Semi protect Tavi Gevinson's page again please?

In January you put a semi-protect on Tavi Gevinson's page, which helped protect the page from vandalism. It recently expired, and the vandals have returned. While she recently celebrated her 14th birthday, she is still certainly a minor and it would be great if you could extend the protection on her page.

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Edit request

{{editprotected}} Replace {{User:iBen/Guestbook/Barnstar}} with {| style="border: 1px solid {{{border|gray}}}; background-color: {{{color|#FF7E00}}};" |rowspan="2" valign="top" | [[File:Autograph Award.JPG|100px]] |rowspan="2" | |style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: bottom; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Autograph Book Barnstar''' |- |This user signed [[User:iBen|iBen's]] [[User:iBen/Guestbook|guestbook]] and won a barnstar for it. |}. The barnstar was deleted per CSD U1. I was able to get the code to replace the redlink. ~NerdyScienceDude (✉ message • changes) 23:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Let's let Bearian do it himself, shall we? • ɔ ʃ → 00:22, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

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Chris Bellamy and AfD

My knowledge of the USA and its coastal areas isn't great but looking at the links you provided, I'm seeing there a Chris Bellamy fisherman/musician in Carolina/Florida who has recorded various CDs but may not be the Chris Bellamy of the WP article who is in Virginia? Of course, the lack of refs in the article make it hard to verify or not. AllyD (talk) 22:14, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

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Iceland–Mexico relations

Please express an opinion at Iceland–Mexico relations. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:39, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Objects from space

You're welcome. You did all the work in making it an article. Mandsford 20:50, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks for jumping in and rescuing Objects visible from space. I keep forgetting that as the "victim of its own success" Wikipedia has dropped its earlier practice of tolerating stubs and now requires a higher level of completion to ensure viability.

The problem for me is that I often recognize that an article should exist but have difficulty recruiting other (more talented or more energetic) writers to help me get the article to that minimum level. Thanks for the rescue. --Uncle Ed (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Courtesy note

You are receiving this note because of your participation in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations, which is now being revisited at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Iceland–Mexico relations (2nd nomination). –xeno^talk 17:36, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks

• Thanks, Bearian. Ed Poor, of course, is one of the founding fathers, I've only been here for three years, but watched Wikipedia evolve, and, surprisingly, it seems like we've each had some influence in the directions that it's taken. I'd seen your profile-- I'm a middle-aged attorney myself, which might explain my hanging around the AfD Forum so much. Some articles are well done and need to be defended against unreasonable charges, and many can be upgraded with some sourcing; if nothing else, we should suggest places where the contribution can be relocated. elsewhere. I know the old saw that "AfD is not for cleanup", but I think the fourm is where improvement it's most likely to happen, and where people are more likely to learn how to do it. Most importantly, the author should be offered the first shot at it. My belief is that having one's work judged by one's peers might be humbling, but having it rewritten by one well-meaning soul is a lot more insulting. As usual, I've gone on too long, but good talking with you. Mandsford 23:56, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Norway – Sudan relations

You are out of line with your comments. Frankly, I expect a lot more out of you, particularly given my extended explanation on that AfD and your admin bit. Your off the hip reply is insulting, to say the least. Not only has a frequent contributor to these AFDs had an enormous ANI started about canvassing, there's been a flood of keep votes that came after the bilateral relations categorization, yours included. I'm not interested in debating notability or even bilateral relations articles as a broad category here (an issue that has a much broader context, that I've taken the time to actually explain). My issue is with your cursory reasoning and your patronizing tone. I'm not an off-the-cuff editor and I spent more than enough time dealing with this AfD. I've been thorough, and I thought I explained myself. Your comments are inappropriate, no matter what sympathies you have towards bilateral relations articles. Shadowjams (talk) 07:42, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your support at my RfA

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with 99 supports, 9 opposes, and 2 neutrals. Your support was much appreciated.

Regards -- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri) (talk) 19:03, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Horasis (2nd nomination)

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