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April 2021

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although we invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia, at least one of your recent edits was not in accordance with the interests of the Cabal, and as soon as we figure out how to do so, it will be reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, or harsh realities and dark truths of Wikipedia bias you'd like to expose, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. Pahunkat (talk) 08:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Pahunkat - LOL! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	I award you with this barnstar in recognition of your continuous kindness to all users of Wikipedia, even to those whose actions here usually evoke a negative response from others.[unreliable ref] And it's not a joke! CiaPan (talk) 16:18, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi CiaPan! Thanks for taking the time to leave me this barnstar and for the very kind words - I'm happy to know that the barnstar wasn't an April Fool's joke. :-) I appreciate it very much, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. I'll see you around the battlefield, and I wish you happy editing! :-D ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:21, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Contact me

Dear Oshwah,

Kindly contact me on (Redacted). It is rather important.

I appreciate your kindness.

141.8.95.253 (talk) 07:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

its not really okay to give someone online whom you dont know your email address just letting you know Fcstu 2000113193 (talk) 17:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

(Talk page enjoyer) The larger concern is really that someone would impersonate Oshwah - this is why the "email this user" feature should be used. I think that requires an account, though? Elli (talk | contribs) 11:35, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Elli - Emailing a user through the Wikipedia interface requires an account, yes. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request

Dear Sir, Could you see the article List of Countries by GDP (nominal). I think something went wrong on this article. Please see the ranking number 41 of this article. Bangladesh nominal GDP is 348,891 million U.S. dollar. But here Bangladesh nominal GDP is 317,768 million U.S. dollar. So, please see this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.163.51.1 (talk) 12:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! I don't see any disruption or obvious problems on the article itself... Have you discussed your concerns on the article's talk page? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:54, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

IP block exemption

Greetings -

I opened an OTRS ticket several weeks ago requesting an IP block exemption for my account, but I still have not received a response. I'm looking for an IPBE primarily for privacy reasons, as I recently subscribed to a VPN provider. I want to be able to edit without having to turn off my VPN every time I edit, and I would always be logged into my account anyway so it’s not like it would be a problem.

I’m a trusted editor here with over 17,000 edits, and I’ve been here for over 7 years. I believe I am a suitable candidate for the exemption.

I am aware that IP block exemptions are generally given to students so that they can edit from educational institutions. However, there have been multiple instances of IPBE being granted to trusted editors simply so that they can edit with enhanced privacy by utilizing their VPN.

If you or another checkuser could look into my case for an IPBE, I'd greatly appreciate it. LJF2019 ^talk 13:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Are you an administrator? If so then you should be able to remove the IP block yourself I don't know why you are asking another administrator about it when you could literally do it yourself. And no I am not being rude this is a simple statement of fact. Fcstu 2000113193 (talk) 16:12, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can tell from their user page, they are not an administrator. What made you think that they were one? BilCat (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Fcstu 2000113193 - This user is not an administrator, and even if they were - administrators granting IPBE exemption (even to themselves) outside of process is extremely frowned upon; it should only be granted by trained users after they've submitted a request and have been evaluated by a checkuser in OTRS. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:48, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi LJF2019! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request for obtaining the IP block exemption user rights. Unfortunately, I'm still a relatively new checkuser, and I haven't yet been (unofficially) trained on the process of vetting and scrutinizing applications yet. I want to get myself trained on this before I take on any tasks regarding IPBE. This assures that I'm doing the right things and that I'm using the checkuser tools according to policy and within their compliance. I also want to make sure that I understand the norms regarding the process and the OTRS queue with IPBE requests. You should hear from a checkuser shortly; just give it some time. There are only a limited number of checkusers and there are many applications that they have to go through and approve. You'll hear back from one of them - worry not! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:44, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

/* You've got mail */

Or at least I sent you one. Hope you're having a great weekend. Risker (talk) 03:07, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Risker - Received and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:55, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Please check this out

Draft:Antano Solar John has just been created. Some time ago in Main space Antano Solar John was deleted, bizarrely by a PRIOD, with an interesting rationale in the deletion log. I have quacking antennae. I have no idea which, if any, SPI was initiated, but wonder if you would mind using the tools at your disposal to check its history and that of various creating editors and contributor out, please. The draft itself is [[WP:ADMASQ]] Fiddle Faddle 18:50, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about this. Unfortunately, the creator of the Antano Solar John article was blocked back in 2017, so I have very little checkuser data to use in order to compare this user to the user that created the draft article. I can say that the result is possible, but inconclusive. The only information I can give you is that they're from the same country - which really doesn't mean much. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:56, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I had a feeling that might be the case. Ah well, one for the future. THanks. Fiddle Faddle 06:48, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - No problem. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

LTA troll

Hey, could you block Bl2phy7uwr9ty (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and look for any sleepers/proxies for blocking? It's pretty obviously a sock: how does otherwise anyone ping so many current and former stewards at one time? (See Teahouse for this.) JavaHurricane 04:36, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Has since been blocked, and the Teahouse discussion collapsed per DENY, but a sleeper check to get rid of proxies as well would be very welcome. JavaHurricane 10:37, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi JavaHurricane! Is there an open SPI report regarding this user? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Longterm Sock Vandal is back (DerekHistorian/WorldCreaterFighter)

The long term vandal and sockpuppet user WorldCreaterFighter (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Long-term_abuse/WorldCreaterFighter) is back and now again full in his agenda and topic area, after making much small undisputed eduts. The new user Vamlos (User:Vamlos) is identical to DerekHistorian (one of the WorldCreaterFighter socks) (User:DerekHistorian)? His edit style and topics are nearly identical and he is at edit warring and disruptive editing again. His main agendas are largely related to racialist, genetic and anthropologic topics. He has once vandalized the article Ainu people, Uyghurs, and others, and is now back. Could you please take care and prevent further disruptive edits and vandalism by this long term vandal. A sockpuppet investigation or a edit and topic comparison would be useful. Thank you in advance.178.165.130.165 (talk) 13:07, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Have you created an SPI report for these two users? We should create one and add evidence and diffs to support your concerns. Afterwards, this can be looked into and appropriate measures (if any) taken. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Revision deletion request

Hello Oshwah, I was interested if revdelete can be performed on my userpage because pre-January 30, 2021 content contains personal information of myself that I do not want to be on Wikipedia, and if it can be performed, I would want all of the pre-January 30, 2021 revisions to be removed. Thanks, Vacant0 (talk) 20:16, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Vacant0 -  Done. Next time, you should email me these kinds of requests instead of leaving them here where they're public. Over 1000 editors have this page on their watchlist, and if you post these kind of privacy-related requests here, you will most definitely trigger the Streisand effect, as editors will quickly run over and look at the content before it becomes restricted for them to see. ;-) Anyways, you should be good to go! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, I appreciate it, I'll be sure to email you next time for these kinds of things! Vacant0 (talk) 22:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Vacant0 - No big deal; I just wanted to mention that to you for future reference is all. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:34, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

[1] --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:04, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Supreme Deliciousness! Replied. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Replied:[2]--Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Supreme Deliciousness - Responded. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

How long back can you check an old account? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:12, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Supreme Deliciousness - Checkuser data can only go back three months from the time that the edit or log entry is made. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Not even IP info is saved in an old account? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 04:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Supreme Deliciousness - No, none of the technical data that checkusers can use to retrieve account, IP, and edit data from is permanently stored. When an item of technical data is stored, it is retrievable by checkusers for only three months from the date and time that it was first logged. Once that data's age reaches three months from the date and time that it was originally logged and stored, it gets deleted and expunged and is no longer retrievable by checkusers.

However, if a stale account I'm checking has no technical data available due to the account being inactive for longer than three months, there is still a chance that I can pull some data. If the stale account has had technical data retrieved by other checkusers in the past, these checks get logged, and I can go into that checkuser log, see what other checkusers have run on the account in the past, and (sometimes) get the IP address from the log's chronological timeline. Checkusers will typically pull the IP addresses used from an account, which adds "Checkuser A got IP addresses from Stale Account A (For reason A)" to the checkuser log. Next, the checkuser will (usually) take those IPs and pull the technical data from them, which adds "Checkuser A got edits from IP address A (For reason A)", "Checkuser A got edits from IP address B (For reason A)", etc. into the checkuser log right next to each other. Checkusers can sometimes put those pieces together and retrieve the IP addresses that the stale account used at the time.

However, this method is not always reliable nor guaranteed. The data is very limited, and sometimes logged in a way that isn't chronological or useful. If the stale account has never been checked by a checkuser before, or if the needed IP data wasn't checked after the initial IP check, I'll have absolutely no data that I can use. In that case, I'll put the account as  Stale or  Inconclusive if the data is unavailable or if I think that the data is too old. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

• Bradv ran a CU on Kenosha and found him to be a sock:[3], how come he found a connection and you didn't? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 05:36, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

  Supreme Deliciousness - It looks like Bradv ran Kenosha against a different master and found a connection this way... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Odd blanking

Hi Oshwah, Template:About/doc has a odd history of blanking by IP users. It's rare enough that it probably doesn't need protection, but could you look at it anyway? I know high-usage templates are eligible for long-term protection, but I haven't seen that done for doc pages. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 05:53, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! Thanks for leaving me a message regarding this doc page. I took a look at the edit history, and I definitely see instances of IP blanking - many of which were made over the last month or two. It's problematic for sure, but (like you said) it looks to be pretty rare. I'm going to hold off on protecting it for now, but if things pick up or start to happen again, let me know and I'll take another look. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

An enquiry

Oshwah, I have an enquiry about the article Love Jihad. As Wikipedia is a neutral encyclopaedia I feel that the tone of the article is not neutral. It seems to be slightly biased (Most probably the users unknowingly collected information and cited slightly biased sources). To make it clear I'm not telling that it was purposefully done so, but actually it is happening, even though less in number of cases it has been reported all over the state from where I am. The opening sentence, "Love Jihad (also known as Romeo Jihad) is a conspiracy theory,developed by proponents of Hindutva, that is used to invoke prejudice against Muslims" is not accurately written. It could have been written as an "allegation" instead of being directly stating it as a hoax. It may have been basically influenced by the media which is majorly slightly leftist.

A humble request to rectify the neutrality issue if any. I am not being Islamophobic/racist/casteist but I really look forward to being neutral in my view point. AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 07:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi AARYA SAJAYAN, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your concerns with the Love Jihad article and some of its content. If you feel that the content can be improved, be bold! You're welcome to edit the article and improve the content. I would also advise you to start a discussion on the article's talk page so that you can express your concerns and interact with other editors regarding them. They'll be able to advise and help you with them. If you have any more questions or need help with anything else, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. :-) Thanks again for the message, and I hope that my response helped point you in the right direction. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:10, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

The main issue is the lack of proper reliable sources on the topic. The majority of the articles written on Love jihad does not seem to be written in a neutral tone, including the mainstream media most of them are slightly biased. But from what I know several Hindu and some Christian girls have been missing for a very long time after a relationship with muslim men. But it never means that all muslims are the same in every community there would be atleast some of the extremist. I have alleged it earlier on the talk page. I had received a Controversial topic area alert with a discretionary sanctions alert. In the talk page it was stated that "The consensus of high-quality academic sources is that Love Jihad is a conspiracy theory or fabricated claim", that is why I decided to enquire about it.AARYA SAJAYAN (talk)

AARYA SAJAYAN - Have you responded to the talk page discussion and provided reliable sources that you found that help support your concerns? I would continue to respond to the discussion and state your individual concerns with the content. Quote the exact content that you feel should be changed, and provide references as to why. What do other editors say when you do this? What would you change the content in the article to say? That's what I would put in the discussion and propose. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

I was able to find some sources alleging Love Jihad's existence

• https://theprint.in/india/kerala-catholic-church-says-love-jihad-a-reality-alleges-women-being-lured-into-is-trap/349951/
• https://www.deccanherald.com/national/kerala-police-intensify-love-jihad-investigation-29746.html
• https://www.mynation.com/views/love-jihad-the-dangerous-undercurrent-that-is-destroying-our-social-fabric-pzir7g

I'm not sure whether these are sufficient, but I'll try to find more of them.

I suggest changing the opening sentence to "Love Jihad (also known as Romeo Jihad) is an allegation, developed by proponents of Hindutva, which claims that Muslim men target Hindu women for conversion to Islam by means such as seduction, feigning love,deception,kidnapping, and marriage, as part of a broader "war" by Muslims against India,and an organised international conspiracy, for domination through demographic growth and replacement" instead of the current version which completely debunks the theory. There has been many such allegations on many a persons and many communities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AARYA SAJAYAN (talk • contribs) 08:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN - Make sure to add this information to your discussion on the article's talk page. This way, other editors can review it and respond to your concerns. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Oshwah, So are the sources that I summoned reliable/strong? Can they be used and are they considered valid.AARYA SAJAYAN (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2021‎ (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN - I took a quick glance at the references you listed, and while I don't see any red flags that jump out at me, I would discuss it with the other editors on the article's talk page before modifying the article. Make sure you get their input and thoughts first - especially since the article is currently under discretionary sanctions imposed by the Arbitration Committee. I don't want to see you be the subject of any sanctions due to not discussing things and repeatedly causing (what may be seen as) disruption on the article. Make sure you work any concerns out with them before you edit things and add or modify any content. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't get you. Could you please convey what you meant by "I don't see any red flags that jump out at me". AARYA SAJAYAN (talk • contribs) 08:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

AARYA SAJAYAN - Sorry, what I meant to say was that I didn't see anything that was extremely wrong with the sources, but I only looked at them quickly. I don't know for sure if these websites are conveyed as reliable by the community or not. That's why you should discuss the sources with the other editors on the article's talk page. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for helping me, very kind of you.AARYA SAJAYAN (talk)

AARYA SAJAYAN - No problem! Always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Change in application of nanotechnology

Hi Oshwah, we are a group of student at USC and our final assignment for a writing class is to polish the article Application of nanotechnology. We are planning to elaborate the application by type and update the lead. The change I made just now is the first step and I haven't added references to it. We have already got everything ready and I am going to put our work on the live page before the deadline tomorrow. Is that ok? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zehuiwu (talk • contribs) 09:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Zehuiwu! Thanks for leaving me a message here and for explaining your edit to Applications of nanotechnology. I would advise putting together the changes you're going to make, then make the edit to the article in one change. This way, you're not removing content and possibly causing confusion with other editors who may examine your changes and not know what you're doing. Other than my advice here, I have no issues with what you're trying to do. :-) If you need any assistance or if you run into any questions, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you with anything you need. I hope you have a great day, and I wish you happy editing! :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:34, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Star Wars and Liverpool Wikipedia

Hi, I am new to wikipedia and I have excellent knowledge on Star Wars and Liverpool. How can I join a star wars and liverpool wikipedia editor club? StarWarsLiverpoolWikipedian (talk) 11:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi StarWarsLiverpoolWikipedian! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad that you decided to join us and create an account! :-) Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I'd begin by going through Wikipedia's getting started page, as well as completing Wikipedia's new user tutorial. These pages will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. If you're interested in joining a WikiProject regarding Star Wars and Liverpool, I'd recommend visiting Wikipedia:WikiProject Star Wars and Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Liverpool task force (assuming that I found the correct "Liverpool" that you're looking for). These WikiProjects will tell you about articles in progress, current discussions, and articles that need help or expansion. If you have any questions or need any help, please don't hesitate to message me here and let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you. Again, I welcome you to Wikipedia and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:01, 9 April 2021 (UTC).

Thanks so much for your help Oshwah. StarWarsLiverpoolWikipedian (talk) 12:05, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

StarWarsLiverpoolWikipedian - No problem! Thanks for stopping by! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:07, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Soak Test -- accuracy

Hello Oshram, I wanted to add accuracy to Wiki's listing for Soak Test because this is a term being used where a term is already established. I heard someone use the term Soak Test today at work, and when I asked further the meaning, I realized they were referring to something that is the same as Stress Test and Load Test -- definitively established in the SWEBOK back in 1993.

Unfortunately younger people may not be aware of the correct term, and end up making up a term for something that is already established, which thereafter creates confusion, inconsistency, and inaccuracy.

I took the time to provide my comment so that Wiki would continue to be a reliable source of information.

12.96.101.179 (talk) 13:15, 9 April 2021 (UTC)Peter Van Aken (I have been using SWEBOK since 1993, as well as SEMI standards and IEEE standards), and sit on several standards writing committees.

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit to Soak testing. I'll be more than happy to help you! :-) Your concerns regarding the article should be posted in a discussion on it's talk page, not the article itself. You'll want to go here in order to add your concerns so that other editors can discuss them with you. You're also encouraged to be bold and improve the article if you believe that there are problems with it. I recommend discussing them first, though. This way, other editors can help you and provide input. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 13:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Elliot Ballpark

There was no previous citation regarding UConn Baseball's conference affiliation to begin with. Also, the stated conference is incorrect, UConn has rejoined The Big East conference and is no longer a member of the American Athletic Conference, this is common knowledge. Finally, I removed the extra "t" at the end of Elliot for consistency and accuracy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.212.176.36 (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for letting me know. I misread the article title and I thought that it said there were two T's in it, not one. That was my mistake and I apologize for the confusion. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:37, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Cobra Kai

Dear Oshwa,

My apologies. I am a classroom teacher demonstrating the pros and cons of wikipedia. You demonstrated the pros by showing how vigilant you are with protecting the content of this awesome show.

Regards,

Texcolo775 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texcolo775 (talk • contribs) 15:44, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Texcolo775! Thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to Cobra Kai. Instead of disrupting an article by showing your class that anyone can edit Wikipedia, I would tell them this verbally and perhaps demonstrate that fact by editing the Wikipedia sandbox. As a teacher and someone whose career is in the field of knowledge and learning, you should understand that even demonstrations like the one you made for your class are disruptive. We should be teaching students that, while Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a reference or source for student papers or reports, Wikipedia is an important website in regards to the neutral and free publication of encyclopedic content, and that we should be treating Wikipedia with respect. I hope that this is something you consider doing. Nonetheless, I appreciate you for letting me know. I hope you have a great day. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

William Lloyd Garrison

I did not make the edit to that page, must have been someone else — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.196.90.104 (talk) 16:54, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for letting me know. If you're using an internet connection that's shared or public, you have a chance of receiving messages and warnings that weren't meant for you. To avoid this, consider creating an account. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Confirm me as a Main Account

Can you confirm me as a Main Account by going to my talk page and clicking on Sockpuppetry investigation? LooneyTraceYT (Where it never goes out of style • contribs) 16:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi LooneyTraceYT! Thanks for leaving me a message here. Unfortunately, due to Wikipedia's checkuser policy, I can't run a checkuser on an account per their own request. The policy states, "On some Wikimedia projects, an editor's IP addresses may be checked upon their request, typically to prove innocence against a sockpuppet allegation. Such checks are not allowed on the English Wikipedia and such requests will not be granted." If the users who filed or updated the SPI report wish to request a checkuser, they can do so - but I cannot run a checkuser on someone's own account if they request it be done. :-/ Sorry - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Of the trials of education

		The Barnstar of Diplomacy
		For dealing very kindly but assertively with a teacher who did not quite understand that their edits were neither educational nor constructive. Fiddle Faddle 17:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Fiddle Faddle 17:12, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! Thanks for the barnstar and for taking the time to leave me the very kind words. :-) Unfortunately, we (or at least I) run into this situation a lot. Teachers want to demonstrate to their students in class that editing Wikipedia is easy, and hence shouldn't be used as a a source or be trusted because of this. Assuming good faith but letting them know that their edits are disruptive is the right way to go in this situation. It resolves the situation each time in my experience. ;-) Thanks again, and I hope you have a great day. I'll see you out on the battlefield! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:33, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Creativework27

Hi! Another account just showed up at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Creativework27 with the same type of suspicious behavior. I reported. Could it be possible to protect the page and/or range block the range the socks are coming from? This disruption will probably continue as long as the AfD lasts.--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 19:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Eostrix! I checked both accounts that you reported, and they're coming from different ranges. At this point right now, until I gather more data, it seems that it would be useless to block the IPs to these accounts, since it's likely that they'll just use another range. If you report any more users to that SPI, let me know and I'll take a look. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:43, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I will request semi-protection (+report the sock) if more new accounts show up to that AfD. It does appear to be motivated by this very specific new article (and its deletion), so semi should probably do the trick.--Eostrix  (^{🦉 hoot} _hoot🦉) 19:50, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Eostrix - Sounds good! Let me know if I can help with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:30, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

#suggestededit-add 1.0

Hi Oshwah, I've been seeing "#suggestededit-add 1.0" in edit summaries over the past few weeks, primarily for IP edits. See here for an example. Any idea what this is all about? BilCat (talk) 23:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! From what I looked up, I found this. It seems to be the suggested edits feature on the Wikipedia android app. However, I thought they were supposed to be tagged, not put in an edit summary... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:51, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, OK, thanks! I don't know about that either. BilCat (talk) 23:56, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

BilCat - No problem! I had to look it up myself. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:59, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

"Laryngospasm" contribution

"Laryngospasm"

I suffer from occasional laryngospasms. I experience 2 or 3 incidences a year on average. I was diagnosed about 10 years ago. My spasms are triggered by liquid, as well as by saliva or mucus that drains unexpectedly toward the esophagus.

I was happy to see this wikipedia page with very good information about laryngospasm. It is very accurate. The only thing I wanted to share with people is what has helped me, personally, in terms of prevention.

At night, sleeping on my right side has never resulted in a spasm for me. It has always been the left side when my spasm kicks in.

More often, my spasms happen during the day than at night. Keeping the chin tucked while swallowing liquid (through the use of a straw) and keeping my chin tucked while my sinuses are draining (such as during a cold or flu) has proven to keep my vocal cords mechanically protected from triggers like liquid or mucus.

Is there a way we can share this "personal experience" in the prevention section? I think it will help people who prefer to avoid medication. I think the "tucked chin" method is most helpful to prevent a spasm from occurring in public (which has happened to me and is really a horrible position to be in and to put other people in).

Thanks!! 76.183.218.109 (talk) 01:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here. Unfortunately, that would constitute original research, which is not allowed on Wikipedia. Per Wikipedia policy, all content must be attributable to a reliable source. The content you added here to Laryngospasm did not cite any reliable sources, and appeared to be original research, which is why it was removed. Please review the policy pages I linked you to in this message, and let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:10, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello

Hello Oshwah, I noticed you tagged this SPI as possible/unlikely, and tbh I got a tad bit confused there. I’m not sure, but could you be so kind as to explain what “Possible/Unlikely” means? Isn’t that kind of contradictory? Celestina007 (talk) 02:03, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Celestina007! Sure, I'll be happy to explain. It's pretty much how it's worded. It's possible that they're sock puppets, but it's unlikely that they're sock puppets too. It basically means that there's a possibility, but the possibility doesn't seem very probable, or that the possibility is small. Does that make sense? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:06, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

I took time to read your response over and again & finally I think I understand. Alright then, thanks for your time. Celestina007 (talk) 02:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Celestina007 - You're welcome. If you still have questions, please let me know. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	Awesome work on clearing out the CU backlog at SPI! Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 03:36, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Callanecc! Thanks! :-) I try my best to keep that queue under control so that a backlog doesn't build. Risker is going to spend time with me on Sunday and get me trained to handle IPBE requests, so I'll be able to help there as well. :-) Thanks again for the barnstar, and I hope you have a great weekend! ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:54, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

If you get a spare moment

And, of course, if it's appropriate, would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tajindert30 please. I have found another nest of probable UPE, and it reeks of Ordure Fiddle Faddle 17:56, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent -  Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I have rarely seen such a huge queue at SPI. I know it's a difficult area for admins, anyone, to work in, but do we have a shortage of appropriate admins right now? The application process looks to me to have become pretty dreadful, and I'm not sure why anyone would submit themselves to it nowadays. Might that be an underlying reason? Fiddle Faddle 09:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - As far as the SPI queue goes that need checkusers to respond: It's probably partially my fault. I've been taking the entire SPI queue on by myself in that area, and I'm sure that other checkusers see it as a welcome break for them. As far as the 'completed' and 'open' queues go, we probably do need more administrators to patrol them and take action. I do see that those queues have gone by slowly and that we lack the number of patrolling administrators who are willing to handle cases at SPI. However, I wouldn't be worried too much. We're training new SPI clerks as I speak who will be able to help with moving cases along and close them with action. I think that we should be training more clerks in order to help with the queue, and we will be. We have a team of dedicated people at SPI; we just need more people who can help. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I've seen you doing a lot of heavy lifting with CU. How can it possibly be partially your fault in that area? Are you British, blaming yourself in advance and apologising just in case???? The other queues do seem to need more willing hands. It's a role for a very particular type of person, and I suspect can be rather good fun, as can CU.

I'll stick to finding 'em! You specialists can knock 'em down. Good to hear there are more people in the wings being trained. We could do with a load more AFC folk, too. Fiddle Faddle 10:17, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - I think you meant to say 'Canadian'. LOL! Yes, we're training two new SPI clerks now, and I'll be asking that more be trained as soon as their training is complete. I could also be training a new SPI clerk, but I'd rather get more experience and training as a checkuser first before I take on any more tasks. Plus... my plate is pretty full right now. I patrol for vandalism, take care of the SPI 'checkuser needed' queue, help with ACC, make sure that the AIV, UAA, and RFPP queues are taken care of, I'm being trained tomorrow morning to be able to help with the IPBE queue, I respond on my user talk page to the many messages I receive from users who need assistance... I can only do so much. Maybe I just need to grow two more arms so that I can do more things faster... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Or just forego sleep! Don't get into danger of burining out. I took a 5 year or so break from that. Fiddle Faddle 11:18, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - Nah, don't worry, I won't burn out. Once I start getting bored or tired of editing Wikipedia, I take a break or call it a night. I'll also take a few days off of Wikipedia if I need to. I'm here because I want to be. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Editing of Lee Rowley page

Hi Oshwah,

Thanks very much for your last reply: User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2021-02#Editing_of_Lee_Rowley_page. I have not reverted the vandalism on the Lee Rowley page as I don't want to engage with edit warring, but tried to engage with BingBong2001 on the relevant talk page - Talk:Lee Rowley. Unfortunately he has not responded for over a month and can I therefore ask you to step in. I tried to systematically go through his edits and detail how they are at odds with the polices of Wikipedia but got nowhere.

Just to remind you, this other user only edits pages relating to one person (adding in positive references to them and deleting more negative ones) and has no history of wider editing on Wikipedia. The same edits have been made by a couple of unregistered users and from the content of the edits and the writing style, it looks like the same person. Other users have raised concerns about their apparent conflict of interest (COI) on their talk page. As such, I don't know what the best option is as if you were to block the registered user from editing the page, I suspect they will just create a new account and do the same edits. Could you revert their last edits and perhaps put a page protection in place please?

Thanks,

Impsfan (talk) 09:35, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Impsfan - If the user hasn't edited in a month (which I can see from their edits that they haven't been), I'd say respond to the discussion, ping the user and leave a note on their user talk page, and wait a few days. If they don't respond in a few days, then make the change on the article, and note the change and the fact that they haven't been online in a month in the edit summary. If they want to revert it, they should discuss it first per WP:BRD. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

IP vandal

Hi Oshwah, see Special:Contributions/67.2.23.255. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 03:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! It looks like the IP is now blocked. If you see any more edits like these, let me know and I'll be happy to put a stop to it. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:11, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

regarding spi

Hello. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

VV 04:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Vincentvikram - Received and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I wonder if I havent gotten an email since it is disabled. I saw this note on the SPI, "and the case is now awaiting a behavioural investigation", and was wondering if that much energy was required since the other account had only 11 edits which ended 2016. VV 08:33, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Vincentvikram - Don't worry too much about it. There's a reason why I declined running a CU on the investigation... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Your warning on User talk:82.50.32.154

Re: [4]. This is an IP-hopping vandal with multiple level 4 or only warnings, and blocks. See User:Beyond_My_Ken/Italian_IPs. That's why I left an only warning. Meters (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

User has been making this edit on Gaudie for six weeks, and has been disruptive on several other articles. Meters (talk) 06:53, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Meters - Lovely... Thanks for letting me know. I'll try and keep eyes on things. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Reported to AIV after another round. Meters (talk) 07:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Meters - Good call. PEW PEW PEW! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Parable of the sower

Your rules for responding are too difficult to understand. I have no citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPDRYR (talk • contribs) 12:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi SPDRYR! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to Parable of the Sower. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any more edits or take on any major tasks around here. It will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, welcome! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Tara Cordell

Hello Oshwah,

I found the information about the death of Mia Cordell here.

https://funeral-notices.co.uk/notice/cordell/4826152

Sorry, it’s my first time editing in Wikipedia.

Mia Cordell was my landlady in Bath in 1989. sorry to read that she died last year. She was a wonderful lady.

Regards Hans — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:908:2132:aa80:4b6:8dc2:cca0:d0aa (talk) 15:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Welcome to Wikipedia! :-) Thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit to Tarka Cordell. Your edit to the article was unreferenced, and the source you provided for me here doesn't appear to be reliable. This is why I removed your edit to the article. Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and consider creating an account. Once you've created an account, you can go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. These pages will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, welcome! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:09, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

You revert my edit

Can I keep my edit ? Any particular reason for reverting ?? Isuru weerasuri (talk) 15:03, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Isuru weerasuri - Your edits are changing the name of the articles to make them different than what they are titled, and without citing any reliable sources. Why are you changing them? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Appreciation

Hi, How are u doing Uhh, apparently I haven't had no problem yet but I will inform you Otherwise Thank u for your care. which country are you from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Isaac Ke Albert (talk • contribs) 15:46, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Isaac Ke Albert! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm from the United States. If you have any questions or need help with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be more than happy to help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar!

Thanks for the barnstar! I'm an on again off again Wikipedia editor, mostly focused on vandalism, new page patrol, and recent pending changes patrol. I would change and make articles if I had information or knowledge that others don't have. Occasionally when I'm patrolling for vandalism I find users trying to make changes but doing it incorrectly. Like this series of changes I did about a random Cypriot lawyer. Thanks again for the recognition. Bluefist ^talk 16:13, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bluefist! You're very welcome - you deserved that barnstar! :-) Hey, don't worry about not being a content contributor who creates articles or adds information to articles. Sure, that's important and we need content contributors, but each and every role, job, project, and task that users contribute to on Wikipedia are equally important. Just like content contributors, we also need people who review and fix errors, nominate articles and pages for deletion, contribute to discussions, decide restrictions and sanctions, write templates and code, assist new users and answer questions, and (of course) patrol recent changes and revert vandalism. I only mentioned a small number of jobs and tasks on Wikipedia, but I think you see what I mean. :-) I'm not a big content contributor myself; I actually started on Wikipedia as a bit of a vandal before I started patrolling recent changes (which was about 14 years ago). The point is: you're doing great work here, and we greatly appreciate it. I hope you have a great rest of your weekend, and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:22, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I hope one day to be an Administrator, of course, I would need to be more active, but Wikipedia is a project that I hope to be a small part of for as long as possible. I can't wait until we have 20-30-40 year badges. Bluefist ^talk 18:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Bluefist - Whether you make many edits, not so many edits, big edits, or small edits - we're glad that you're here. I'm happy to hear that you plan on sticking around with us too! Don't worry, with time and experience, you'll grow! I've been here 14 years, and I'm still learning and growing. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Removed edit from Carlisle United page for lack of source

You have removed an edit from the ||Carlisle United|| page for a lack of source. I'm not sure why as the source had been cited — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.136.18.90 (talk) 16:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! I owe you an apology. I reverted your edit and realized that you had cited a reference after the fact. I reverted my removal and restored your changes. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you. :-) Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Islam in Mozambique

Hello, you undid my edit to the Islam in Mozambique article for lacking a source. This is because it's simply a list of notable people who are in that group and what they are notable for. The sources are given in the articles on the individuals, if you click his you'll see it stated in there. 96.59.49.49 (talk) 16:41, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to Islam in Mozambique. The reason I removed your edit was because, yes, it wasn't referenced, but also because it didn't seem necessary if we're just listing people who are notable in that area. "Portugal international footballer" is sufficient enough. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

And what harm is there in listing what makes him unique amongst footballers? 96.59.49.49 (talk) 16:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

It's not interpreted as being neutral. It's a contentious piece of information that (assuming it's true) belongs on the article itself, not in a list of notable people in an unrelated article. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Tell me: what else is unique about that player? Besides that he's a thoroughly average footballer that has nothing of particular note about him. And why do you keep challenging the information? Have you read his article? It talks about it there. You can find it with any basic search on him in any resource. 96.59.49.49 (talk) 07:02, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

"Portugal international footballer" is sufficient enough. That makes the person notable. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:20, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Suhas_Khamkar&action=history

The statement is wrong - "He was the student of the legendary coach Pravin sakpal Sir"" He was trained in kolhapur under Bhibhishan Patil Gym..

I can see that you have readded the statement and i request you to remove it..

Thank you, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssmirajkar (talk • contribs) 17:07, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ssmirajkar, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I assume that you're referring to this edit [5] here? Your edit removed content that was referenced. I don't see what the issue is. How is this content wrong? Do you have a reference that can support otherwise? I'm just confused is all... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:15, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello oshwah, Thank you for the reply. Can we refer to the below article and make changes please.. https://jakhunews.com/suhas-khamkar/ Also - Associate Suhas Khamkar, Himself wants to manage this page and his wiki, How can we do that.. Can we make the page private for Suhas Khamkar himself.. Thanks again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssmirajkar (talk • contribs) 17:31, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Ssmirajkar - It sounds like you might have a personal conflict of interest with this article subject. If this is the case, then I highly recommend not making any edits to the article. If you wish for the content to be removed, please start a discussion on the article's talk page here. This way, you can request the edit be changed, and another editor can make the appropriate edit for you. Unfortunately, the page cannot be made private or restricted so that only the article subject or certain people can edit it - articles are only restricted from editing under strict circumstances. This is an open encyclopedia where anyone can edit it, which is a founding principle of Wikipedia, and that cannot be changed. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:46, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Oshwah, Can you please guide on what category to select under the "talk" session. I will raise a query and start the discussion. - Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssmirajkar (talk • contribs) 00:48, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Ssmirajkar - You shouldn't need to select any category. Just click on "new section" at the top of the page, and add your request to the new discussion. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Oshwah, are you interested in dogs, or no?

I would like you to answer my question on the talk page

Answermeplease11 (talk) 17:22, 11 April 2021 (UTC)Answermeplease11

Hi Answermeplease11! Uhh, sure, dogs interest me to a certain extent. Did you need help with something? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:47, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

MARTA again

Hi Oshwah, another IP from Indonesia has iVoted at Talk:Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority#Requested move 21 March 2021. Still a strange thing to be canvassing over, or even voting on 3 times. Btw, the RM has run for over 3 weeks now. I really do wish I'd just been bold and moved it without an RM and I'm seriously considering just going ahead and moving it anyway. BilCat (talk) 04:29, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! I wouldn't worry about it too much. There's a notice on the page that an editor expressed a concern that editors have been canvassed to this discussion. It'll be taken into consideration with the close. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks :) BilCat (talk) 05:44, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

BilCat - You bet! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:40, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

User:AaronAdamKhan007

Hi Oshwah. You had blocked this account back on 10 November, 2020 stating "block evasion". Meantime, Vertexgodblessing (talk · contribs) was created on 11 November 2020. By any chance are thes two accounts the same person? If yes, is AaronAdamKhan007 the master or is there any other master account you are aware of? — LeoFrank  ^Talk 05:45, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi LeoFrank! The user has been blocked for abusing multiple accounts. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:19, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Oshwah. If AaronAdamKhan007 was abusing multiple account, then I believe, there is a huge sock farm out there. If you see, per WP:DUCK, the editing pattern of AaronAdamKhan007 and Vertexgodblessing are very similar. Any thoughts? — LeoFrank  ^Talk 01:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

LeoFrank - I didn't see any sleepers or other obvious socks when I ran a check on the SPI report. If there are other accounts that you suspect, you should create another SPI report and add them. That's all that I can really say; it's possible that there are more sock puppet accounts out there that belong to AaronAdamKhan007 - I just didn't see any. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:30, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please may I pick your brains?

I have run into an editor who has just admitted to me after heavyweight questioning, that he and his brother are sharing the account and tag teaming edits. See my talk page. I find I am unable to determine the correct course of action on that element. It is a form of sockpuppetry, perhaps one of the most clandestine. I doubt CU would show it up since they may well be sitting at the same desk, and it does not feel like a regular SPI report, were I to file it.

The rest of it, the self promotion self puffery, copyright violations, those are run of the kiln stuff. Eventually one or the other of them will create an acceptable draft or will go away. But the two users using one account thing is one where I've failed to find a suitable warning in Twinkle's list, and am unsure how to proceed on that.

Hence my arrival here, to pick your brains! Or, if you will, to ask you to take whatever action you deem appropriate, please. Fiddle Faddle 16:07, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! I responded to the message on your user talk page here. I need A Flaneur to clarify whether or not he is sharing his account. The statement he left here stating, "my brother has also been helping me with the article" implies this pretty heavily, and it appears that what's going on with this user support this, but I need him to explicitly state that he's sharing his account. Users who share their account are typically blocked per policy, but I'd like to try and give him a chance to have his brother create an account so that this potential issue is resolved. Let me know what he says and keep me posted. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly with yor approach. While it is 'self evident' it does need to be stated clearly. Thank you for choosing a straightforward course of action. I will brief you with any reply. Fiddle Faddle 16:32, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

That is a very interesting reply. "Only I press the Publish button" and "My brother must have said he was not me". My ability to AGF just flew out of the window. Yours may still be on your shoulder eating raisins. Fiddle Faddle 18:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! Yeah something isn't adding up here... It sounds to me like he's letting his brother modify content before he publishes it. In any case, that's still prohibited; he's giving his brother access to his account. I've responded to the user on your user talk page. I hope he does what I ask and that he has his brother create a new account. There's a possiblity that this "brother" doesn't exist and that he's using it as an excuse, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt and take his word for it, since I have no proof to the contrary. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:55, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

There is no argument from me against your approach. I see some terminological inexactitudes in his/their answers, or is that downright contradictions? We all start out with good faith, but the other guy often has a really good go at eroding it Fiddle Faddle 19:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - I'm seeing terminological inexactitudes in one perspective of reading his answers, but not so much in another (with my "AGF" goggles on). Let's just see what he does and give him a chance. Worst case scenario: He ignores us, continues on with what he's doing and doesn't communicate, and is held responsible for his edits just like anybody else is. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:16, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

His answer to your big question overnight (my time) gives me confidence in only one aspect of his character. It is not an aspect I find pleasing, one not necessarily at variance with our policies, or which might be. Oh, I could accept that he is not touting for business, except http://www.randallgoodden.com shows it is only COVID that has stopped it (Panel, left hand margin). The part of his character that I have confidence in suggests to me that he will be open for business soon enough again. And yet I need AGF goggles to be a good citizen here. If only they had not had their lenses obscured by the mists and fog, and if only he/they were not pushing incorreclty licenced material to WP and Commons with such regularity, I might be able to smile, nod, and move on. Fiddle Faddle 07:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I think we now have a definitive message on my talk page. Now a decision can be made. Over my time here I have fouund that editors who create autobiographies have the greatest difficulty in coping with the criteria for inclusion, and a certain challenge with copyright material. It saddens me that he states that he created the messages saying who he is and then denying he is who he is. But that is what he did, and it is not outside our rules, just, well, unusual. He states that the brother never pressed 'publish' (my paraphrasing). Unless you disagree it seems to me that he is within the rules here. Fiddle Faddle 15:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - Yeah, the user seems to be compliant, so I'll just let it go. Best to assume good faith and let it be. Nonetheless, I appreciate you for bringing your concerns to my attention. I hope you have a great day, and I wish you happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:36, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you on this count and the SPI conversation. I must find an artcile to write. Or a novel. or maybe an SMS message. Fiddle Faddle 18:08, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - No problem! Definitely write an article; it'll be more beneficial compared to a novel or SMS. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

SPI query

Hello, Oshwah,

I think we have another Bikram Malati sock with User:Sagar10km who created another draft on him...since most of the relevant article and draft titles are protected, he's had to get innovative with the names (Bikram malati untold story). I was going to add him to the SPI case but it's closed and is waiting to be archived so I'm contacting you directly. I have already blocked him as a sockpuppet but I thought I should check with a checkuser as well. Thanks! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:08, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Liz! Can you do me a favor and file a new SPI report with that user so that we have it on record with evidence? I'm at the office right now, so I might be a little bit with taking a look at it, but I'll definitely do so when I get a chance to. :-) Let me know when you've done this (you can set the status to "CUrequest") and I'll check it out. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Actually, there is Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bikram malati in mb and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bikram L malati and it looks like you have reviewed both. Another editor added User:Sagar10km to one of the pages but you had already reviewed it and I think they are both ready to close. I'll try to see if I can "reactivate" them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I think I reopened them and noted that they should probably be merged. Hope your day is going well! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:46, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Liz - I've updated the SPI report with the two added users. If they need to be merged, I'll let a clerk do that. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:34, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zaid Zayd

I'm not sure if this is in your CU field, or another's field, and since it may be CU I don't imagine you will make a public response to me over it more than "noted".

There appears to be some discussion over who the sockmaster might be. The two most recent reports highlight some difficulty in allocating the sockmaster, both appearing to suggest that the character of the original master's editing has changed from those of a young teenager (reportedly) talking about self and dad, to one somewhat wider.

It seems to me that a discussion between SPI folks might create some clarity on whose farm this is or whether the editing has developed, potentially towards paid editing. All I hope to do is to trigger that discussion, mainly because I'm a pedantic old scrote! Fiddle Faddle 08:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! Thanks for the message. I don't have any information regarding who may be the master, but I'll definitely note your response and make sure a discussion is ongoing. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

your advice?

Hey Oshwah! You are certainly much more familiar with Wikiquette and other guidelines. Therefore I would appreciate your advice re a user who has been following me like a doggie on a short leash for quite a while now. To see examples, please see the last page of my contributions : y'day only, s/he followed me 42 times on at least 20 different pages in short intervals of 1 to max 27 min. What do you think : is s/he just a weird fan ? or an ill-mannered dude ? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BhagyaMani! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and concerns. Who is the user that you believe is following you from article-to-article? Is it Ddum5347? Could it be possible that you two just have interests in the same article topics? It could be the user has a similar interest in the topic of animals and is using your contributions to find articles with content that could be improved. I will say that it's a bit strange that the user is making edits to articles that you've edited and either only a few minutes later, or up to an hour afterwards... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:43, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Yes. S/he doesn't contribute new sources, but just revises previous edits. You know I've been around for about a decade, but never before have my contributions caught such a huge amount of attention within such short times. So that's quite strange! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 17:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

BhagyaMani - I agree that it's strange, but so long as they're not causing disruption or anything of the sort, then I'd say that there's nothing to worry about. If that changes, definitely let me know and I'll be happy to take another look. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:03, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

I will surely let you know. Cheers + stay healthy! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 18:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

BhagyaMani - Thanks! You as well! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:50, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Unusual first edit date behaviour

Please will you consider Special:Contributions/No Men Are Allowed which shows a behaviour I am not used to seeing from a brand new editor. If appropriate please consider CU tools. If not, please consider behaviour alone Fiddle Faddle 19:10, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! I also think that is strange and suspicious... I ran the user and I didn't find anything that I could tie the user to as far as sockpuppetry goes... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:29, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

All I can think of is {{spa}} on each AfD, but the purpose is... unusual Fiddle Faddle 19:39, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - Indeed unusual. Let's keep an eye on the user and see what happens... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:48, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

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AeschyIus - Received and replied. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:54, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Replied to your reply. :-) AeschyIus (talk) 02:55, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Replied to your next reply. :-) AeschyIus (talk) 03:26, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

NXIVM and PCR question

Hi Oshwah. This is a pending change that if I accept, could lead to a weird edit war thing between the PCRs and IP editors. The edit was previously added by another IP, and I don't know if it constitutes as vandalism. Should I accept in this case, even with the validity of the sources called into question? I frankly don't know what to do since it falls outside of the scope of "obvious vandalism/BLP violations only" reverts, but the edit in question is contested for POV reasons. Any advice for this situation and similar ones as a PCR/RCP? Also, I keep seeing the same old pages show up on PCR... is that normal? Sennecaster (What now?) 03:19, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Sennecaster - If this isn't a revision that you would accept yourself, you can reject it. Are there blatant BLP violations or other serious issues with the content being added? If so, reject the changes. Reviewing pending changes require that we screen the edit for reliable sources and that the edits comply within policy. If you see no serious issues with the content being added, go ahead and accept them. The content seems well-cited, and I don't see anything that stands out to me as being a serious violation of policy. If your acceptance of the revision generates an edit war after the fact, that's not your problem. Your task as a pending changes reviewer is to vet the content, and assure that it doesn't blatantly violate policy. If it doesn't, accept the revision. Those who choose to edit war the content that's accepted is violating policy - that has nothing to do with you. Just make an appropriate judgment call, and go with it. Make sure that you state a good reason for accepting or reverting when you make a decision. Please let me know if you still have any more questions or concerns regarding this pending revision, and I'll be happy to help you further. :-) Let me know what you decide to do. Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

I ended up reverting, as someone already reverted and then another person added. Weird case and there's not much guidance for pending changes being used to solve content disputes on an article besides "go with your gut". Sennecaster (What now?) 10:45, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Sennecaster - Yeah, in those cases, I just look at the content and make sure that they don't violate policy. The fact that there's a content dispute isn't relevant; we just make sure that the content itself doesn't contain serious violations (BLP, COPYVIO, libel, etc). If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:32, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Links added.

to King.86.140.208.157 (talk) 05:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! I don't understand your message. Your edits here to Jonathan King didn't add any links, references, or citations. This is why I removed your changes. Was there anything I missed? Please let me know. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:46, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Objection

Why did you objection to the Anatoline Treplev34 (talk) 05:46, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Treplev34! I'm not sure exactly what you're referring to. Can you link me to the article and the revision that you're talking about so that I can take a look? :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:48, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Treplev34 - Are you perhaps talking about your user page that I deleted? It appeared to be advertising and promotion, which is no allowed on Wikipedia. Please see Wikipedia's policies on user pages and what is and is not allowed on them, and let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:53, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi

I made a edit at the Kenny Dalgish site cause i thougt it was wrong (i added source). It did not work. WHY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.88.128.134 (talk) 10:42, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Your edits here and here to Kenny Dalglish were disruptive, that's why... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

William Amos

What William Amos did whether constructive to you or not happened. You folks at Wikipedia have tons of false narrative against Conservatives and especially against Trump supporters. Shame on you for shunning facts.

"On April 14th, 2021, Amos forgot to turn his webcam off and streamed naked live in the Canadian House of Commons." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.175.200.37 (talk) 02:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! The reason that the content was reverted and the article protected was because of the fact that the changes made were not referenced by reliable sources. This makes the changes a violation of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy, which is strictly regulated for obvious reasons. If you wish to make an edit request, you may do so by adding a request to the article's talk page here. I appreciate your message, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Not true. You wrote that it wasn't constructive, not that it wasn't cited with a source. I was about to add the source but you leftist were so quick that you instantly erased it. No lies please.

And now you've blocked editing until April 16th due to vandalism. You're such a leftist hack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.175.200.37 (talk) 03:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Let's be civil - we don't need to call one another names in order to talk, do we? :-) The reason I protected the article was to stop the addition of unsourced content to the article that was in violation of Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy. It's a big deal that we don't add content that's contentious and unfererenced to articles that violate this policy. If you think about it, if we're here to build an encyclopedia that's neutral and attempts to deliver the highest quality content possible to our readers, if you saw that someone was adding that kind of content to an article about a living politition, with no source or reference, and no other information what-so-ever, I believe that you would've done the same thing. What would you have expected me to do differently? I believed that the edit at the time was not constructive. You must understand that users vandalize and add content like this to articles all the time in order to damage it and be disruptive. I apologize if you took offense to my warning, but the edits at the time, with no sources or other information, were not referenced and they looked to be vandalism. I did what any editor would have done with the information that they had. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Let's be civil by not shunning facts. I posted the source. I'll post it again:

"On April 14th, 2021, Amos forgot to turn his webcam off and streamed naked live in the Canadian House of Commons."

Now will you stop interfering with facts? Wikipedia is filled with anti-conservative bias false narratives. Wikipedia is filled with politician related false information. Do you even believe what you write. What a joker you are. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.175.200.37 (talk) 03:54, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I saw the source that you added in your previous message, and I don't doubt that the information is true. However, at the time, I didn't have this information. That's why I reverted your changes (as well as the changes of other users) and protected the article. You're welcome to make an edit request by adding a discussion to the article's talk page here. An editor will review it, and make the appropriate change to the article on your behalf. If you feel that the content should be added, please do this and someone will respond to your request. Again, I apologize if you took offense to my actions and the warning you received. It was not done in a political measure, but in order to protect the encyclopedia and assure that content added to the article was in compliance with policy. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Right, protect the liberal bias that is Wikipedia. Well done bud. Look at that crap entry that was put in... it begins with the apology before the act. Leftist spin doctors = Wikipedia. What a junk site this is turning out to be — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.175.200.37 (talk) 04:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what you want me to say or do that will resolve this situation and help you. If there is anything I can do, please let me know. I hope you have a great day. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

References

About sockpuppets

Hi, The message regarding blocked for sockpuppetry, is not there on user page of Kroshta, he is blocked or not.? Also, I need your attention on this, if you are free Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Yadavji2003 & this too Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Ramesh mishra Naugachia. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Heba Aisha! Yes - the user Kroshta is blocked, and I went ahead and tagged the user page. Okay, I'll take a look at the SPI reports today. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Page mover

Hi Osh. I wonder if you could do me a 'reasonably-sized' favour (If you have the time and are of a mind to) and hook me up with page-mover permission. I feel I need this to suppress redirects when moving AfC items out of userspace... otherwise the user comes along, deletes the redirect and starts another draft; and I get the blame, credit or messages – as the first thing in the userpage is me creating a redirect. Also useful when moving items to draft from mainspace, to avoid creating a crosspace redirect which then has to be deleted. Many thanks. Eagleash (talk) 14:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Eagleash! I hope you're doing well! :-) Have you requested the page mover user rights at WP:PERM? That would be the place that I'd go to for these permissions, as there's probably an admin there who's more familiar with the requirements and would be able to grant them faster and with better judgment than I would. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

User name question

Hi Oshwah, I saw that you removed a user name I had reported (along with others), but my report had not been handled or declined at that time. Could you take a quick look at this user name and let me know if it's okay? Obot60000 (My report said: "Violation of the username policy as a misleading username. Just noticed that username could be interpreted to be a bot account. (So far it's a vandalism-only account anyway).") Thanks for your time! Schazjmd (talk) 00:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Schazjmd! Uh oh! I didn't mean to remove your report at UAA if it didn't receive a response or a decline. Sorry about that! When it comes to Obot60000, let's hold off and wait until the user makes any more edits before we decide to take any action. It's technically a bot username, since it does appear to be worded to mean that it's a bot, but also not explicitly a bot username, since '-bot' is reserved at the end of the username for bot accounts. This account has also not edited since April 8, so it's not necessary to block it right now unless the user continues actively editing. :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions or need input on anything else, and I'll be more than happy to help! Again, please accept my apologies for accidentally removing your report. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Hello Oshwah hope your doing well. It has came to my attention that you deleted the Muzzafarid dynasty article without even discussing, I hate to see one of my articles be deleted like that. You left on your summary that a author blanked the page in attempt to have it deleted, if you know who it was it would be much appreciated. Thanks: Rashicy (talk) 10:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Rashicy! I searched through your deleted contributions, as well as the logs for Muzzafarid Dynasty, Draft:Muzzafarid Dynasty, Muzzafarid Dynasty, Draft:Muzzafarid Dynasty, etc but could not locate the page you're talking about. I also searched through my deletion logs and went as far back as the beginning of 2020, and I also couldn't find anything. Can you link me to the page that you're talking about so that I can take a look at it? Typically, if the creator of an article or page requests deletion or blanks the page, I'll delete it under G7. If you did blank the page and were the creator of the page originally, I'll be more than happy to restore it if you wish - I just need to know its location. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:47, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

FWIW, that article is Draft:Muzzafar dynasty (found via xtools, [6]; though I guess with admin tools you don't need to go there). Though the OP is blocked temporarily. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:15, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

RandomCanadian - Good find! However, I don't see any deleted page history there... If what the user is talking about was deleted under G7, it wasn't there... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:32, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

No history but usually it gives the reason; though in this case it was complicated by a series of move (due to first the article title being mispellt; then it being draftified). The G7 deletion they were referring to might be the one here since it is indeed by you (more than a week ago, so enough time to forget especially if you're busy with other stuff). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:47, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

RandomCanadian - Weird. I've gone ahead and restored the content per WP:REFUND. I'm not seeing any content that was deleted in the first place, but nonetheless, here you go. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

You might want to quietly press undo on the undelete tool before I humourously start blaming you for not taking the couple of minutes it took me to figure it out :). Looks like C.Fred had already restored it - citing REFUND in the log itself - (a few hours after OP posted here; oddly enough the only post I can find by OP on Fred's talk is this, after the article was restored) and then moved it to the correct title, before [{noping|Srnec}} draftified it without leaving a redirect. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 05:01, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

RandomCanadian - Oh. Well I guess that solves the mystery then. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:57, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Tajinder Tiwana article not reviewe yet (username: Nikswap1985)

Hi,

I sent tajinder tiwana's page for review on 14th April 2021 at 19:53 pm but before that i tried many times to make his page and for that i used the following:

1. Tajindert30 (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA) ( Clerk note: original case name)
2. Nikswap1985 (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
3. Deepa singh rathore (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
4. Swapnik03 (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA) - possibly only Commons for File:Tiwana-singh-taji.jpg
5. Pritesh0104 (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA)
6. Suryarane22 (talk+ · tag · contribs · logs · filter log · block log · CA) - oldest on the list so far, and stale
7. 103.76.57.35 (talk+ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block log · cross-wiki contribs)

but i this id has been retried with the same remarks (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Tajindert30 ) now i have a query (Reviewed By: Timtrent) that my page looks like a campaign but you should help me so that i can show this page in this article. Tajinder tiwana is young youth leader in mumbai. His reference links are as follows

1. "Tajinder Singh Tiwana a Social Activist and BJP Mumbai Youth Wing Chief Insures his Karyakartas With Healthcare Policy". 
2. "Tajinder Singh Tiwana appointed as the President of Bharatiya Janata Yuva Morcha Mumbai (BJYM)". 
3. "Ganesh Chaturthi 2020: BYJM provides 'Visarjan at your door' for senior citizens in Mumbai".
4. "Tajinder Singh Accuses Maha Vikas Aaghadi Government of Biased Behavior".

Now i have a query (Reviewer: Oshwah) that my page looks like a campaign but it is not a campaign its simple article with information of tajinder. So Can you please help me so I can improve my article. I am very thankful if you approve my article.

Nikswap1985 (talk) 18:51, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Harassment assistance

Hello Oshwah. I'd like to ask for you assistance dealing with a new user using two accounts, one to make edits and another to harass me on my talk page. User User:Brimay1976 made edits to the article for the reality show 60 Days In regarding current day updates to the show's participants. Having dealt with this on articles like Kitchen Nightmares, I reverted explaining that the article covers the events of the show, not what happened to the participants after what aired. The user reverted to which I reverted once more, giving the Kitchen Nightmares example and explaining that just because they feel it's relevant, that doesn't mean policy can be ignored. This caused the user to use an obvious second account, User:Brimay76 to start writing essay=length comments on my talk page. I began reading the first one but saw it was just veiled attempts to insult and deleted it. The user has continued to use this account to leave similar responses to which I've reverted, making it clear that the comments are being reverted without being read. I've already brought the sockpuppet issue to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Brimay1976 but the harassment continues in the meantime. Thanks for any assistance or guidance you can provide. NJZombie (talk) 08:04, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi NJZombie! Thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your request and your concerns. I'll be more than happy to help you out. I went ahead and left this message on Brimay76's user talk page, and I also left a message on Brimay1976's user talk page pointing the user to the message I left on the other account. I hope that the message I left will put a stop to the repeated messages you're receiving, and direct the user to discuss the matter in the right place. I also took a look at the SPI report that you linked me to. I definitely believe that the two accounts belong to the same user, and I asked them about this in my message. Keep me posted and keep me updated, and definitely let me know if the messages don't stop and if Brimay76 continues to bother you. I'll be more than happy to step in further and do what's needed in order for it to stop. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:06, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Possible socking going on.

I am not sure, but my gut is telling me that Zhjsb is somehow a continuation of Justshepu as both accounts are interested in cricket and after Justshepu stopped editing Zhjsb started and the continued recreation of Mrittunjoy Chowdhury. I didn't see enough to raise an SPI, but thought I post here, maybe you can check it out. Cheers. Govvy (talk) 09:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Govvy, and thanks for leaving me a message regarding these accounts. If you can, go ahead and create an SPI report and provide specific evidence and diffs that you have linking these two accounts together. The more evidence you have, and the more diffs you have, the better. I'll be happy to take a look at it and see what I can do. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I believe he is part of this SPI, what makes me think even more, since Zhjsb got banned, Justshepu account started up again, please have a look at that contrib! Govvy (talk) 08:51, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Govvy - Thanks for letting me know. It looks like the SPI has been closed and the user blocked for sock puppetry, so I think we're good to go! If you have any questions or need anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Nate Speed IP

Can you please deal with 174.18.45.201? And are they the Nate Speed LTA? aeschyIus (talk) 03:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi AeschyIus! I've blocked the IP user for obvious reasons. I'd say that it's definitely possible that this is Nate Speed, yes. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Lionel

The name was his family name, I am a family member (his son) and this needs to be adjusted to include this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 102.65.102.9 (talk) 10:17, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Sorry, but edits made to articles - such as the one you made here to Lionel Morrison - need to be attributable to a reliable source or cited by a reliable source. From your statement above, it also appears that you have a personal conflict of interest with the article subject. Editing articles where a personal conflict of interest exists is highly discouraged, as it makes it nearly impossible to write content about the article subject that's worded to reflect a neutral point of view. I highly recommend that you consider editing a different article where no such conflict exists. Please review these policies and let me know if you have any questions. I'll be more than happy to answer them. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:22, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Floyd protection

Hi there. George Floyd was previously at indef semi protection. Did you indend to reduce it to a few months? Note that it had been indefinite since 09:11, 5 June 2020, with a brief change to full protection in between.—Bagumba (talk) 10:48, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bagumba! Nope, I didn't mean to touch the protection level on the article at all. I declined the request at RFPP to make it extended-confirmed protected due to insufficient disruption by confirmed accounts. Thanks for letting me know about this; I'm not sure what happened there... Anyways, I've fixed the protection duration. Thanks again for the heads up, and I hope you have a great day! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Bagumba - AHA! I know what happened... I meant to protect the 2020–21 Premier League article for two months, which was the request directly below the George Floyd request at RFPP that I declined. I must've accidentally applied the protection to George Floyd instead. That... that was my bad. Thanks again for letting me know. Mystery solved - I'm a bonehead. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Overview of The Windsor Lines and Windsor Lines (Waterloo to Reading, Windsor and Hounslow loop)

Hi Oshwah, I have nominated both the redirects you created to be G6 speedied, myself and another voiced concerns about such redirects being created over on RfPP. Both of the subjects referenced 4 different lines and redirecting to one of these lines is not appropriate in this case; secondly as I pointed out on RfPP the term "Windsor Lines" had not been reliably sourced on any page. The one I removed from the Waterloo to Reading line cited a blog, obviously contravening WP:UGC. I'm not sure if you can go back and delete the redirects or whether INVOLVED comes in to play here, but I would appreciate it if you reconsider your position on the subject. Thanks Nightfury 12:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nightfury! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about this. I've gone and G6'd both redirects that I created and I SALTed them from creation by non-confirmed accounts indefinitely. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Nope; tis fine. I would have asked you to delete a redirect I created in error but GB fan beat me to it :) Thanks. Nightfury 12:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Nightfury - No problem. :-) If anything else comes up that you need my assistance with, don't be a stranger! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 12:31, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

No subject

NotAbleToBeAEditor (talk) 14:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Hello.

Hi NotAbleToBeAEditor! Did you need help with something? Let me know; I'll be more than happy to help you if you need anything... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:29, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

NotAbleToBeAEditor (talk) 14:38, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Ok! i guess i will see ya later!

hi!

do u like icecream? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrewHertzbach (talk • contribs) 14:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi DrewHertzbach! Welcome to Wikipedia! Sure, I don't mind ice cream at all! :-) If you haven't already, I recommend visiting Wikipedia's getting started page for information on how you can start contributing to Wikipedia. Let me know if I can help you with anything, and I'll be more than happy to do so. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:45, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

This looks like a five ring circus

Would you mind putting you CU hat on and examining this history. I am having an antennae twitch over all the brand-new accounts that have arrived. Besides, I haven't asked you for help for almost week now! 🤪 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^{Talk to me} 16:43, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll happily open an SPI if you think that is the best route. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^{Talk to me} 16:52, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Timtrent! It's good to talk to you again! Sure, let's create an SPI report. Other than the accounts being new and editing this article, are there any other behavioral similarities? Are they adding the same text? Using the same edit summaries? Doing anything that's similar in nature that one person would habitually do? Any details and diffs that you can provide as evidence in the report would be helpful. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I'll have a more detailed look. The main thing that got my attention was their sudden and almost overwhelmimg arrival Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^{Talk to me} 16:58, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - Sure, I understand. It is weird that a bunch of new account suddenly went to this article to edit it. It could be a coincidence, or perhaps not. That's why having an in-depth look at them and gathering behavioral evidence is important. It'll help us to gauge how to look at this. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:03, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I can only do my best. The edits appear dissimilar in all except character. So I will draft it in that manner Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^{Talk to me} 17:05, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - No worries! Do your best; that's all that anyone could ask for. :-) It's possible that this isn't sock puppetry at all - just remember to be objective. Your mission isn't to "find sock puppetry". Your mission is to see if there is evidence that supports the possibility or the likelihood that this is sock puppetry. Keep that in mind. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:08, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I added the last of those with SPA contributions and was just writing the rationale when my finger touched the esc key on my touchbar and it all vanished. Ploooooof - Gone. You can probably see why am not going though all that again, there were about a dozen of them. I fear no report will be filed. I wonder what is going on, though Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^{Talk to me} 17:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Timtrent - Ugh, I hate it when that happens. No big deal. Let's just keep an eye on things and see if more edits progress by these users on the article. It could be that they just make one or a few edits and then go stale... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi . Can you stop changing the editing

information about Dr Alan Clifford

I just got your message that you have deleted my revision. I will add the relating citation with no problem, but could you please send me what I had added as revision. That will reduce my time to spend because I don't have to rewrite what you have deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.99.195.177 (talk) 01:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to Alan Clifford. Sure, no problem - you can view any past revision by looking at the article's history page. The information you're looking for is located here. Please let me know if I can help you with anything else, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:22, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Reporting the user Amigao keeping inserting the fake claim against Dr.Ke Wu

I report the user named Amigao keep inserting the following fake negative information against Dr. Ke Wu on the Wikipedia page

The fake negative information is as the following:

"Wu was a former delegate to the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference and an advisor to the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the Chinese Communist Party's United Front Work Department"

This user Amigao is making the false claim against Dr.Ke Wu.

I would like Wikipedia start to launch investigation into the event.

Thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killapest (talk • contribs) 01:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Killapest! Why not discuss your concerns on the article's talk page with Amigao? If you believe that the content is inaccurate or incorrect, you should discuss that with him so that you two can work thing out. Have you tried doing this? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, Mr. Oshwah, there is no way to talk to the user Amigao about this, because we do not know who he really is, even though we might know him, but not 100% sure.

Please advise me how to stop this nonsense, or we have to remove Dr. Ke Wu's wikipedia page completely.

Thanks a lot.

User: killapestKillapest (talk) 02:06, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Killapest - Well the article isn't going to get removed simply because there's a content dispute. That's not how Wikipedia's deletion policy works. :-) What you need to do is go to the article's talk page here, and start a new discussion, ping Amigao, and voice your concerns about the content in question and exactly why you believe it to be inaccurate or untrue and why it should be removed. This is how we properly resolve disputes; we discuss them and come to a consensus and take things from there. This is what you need to do if you wish to have this matter looked into. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Killapest, what do you mean by "we"? If you mean that multiple people are using this account, then please note that Wikipedia's rule is one account, one person. Accounts which are used by multiple people are blocked from editing. Also, how are you linked with Dr. Wu? Is he your client, friend, or closely linked with you in any other way? Please be very truthful in answering this question, as undisclosed paid editing is banned on Wikipedia by its terms of use, and undisclosed paid editors are blocked from editing. Thanks, JavaHurricane 02:18, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for your prompt reply.

You advise me to contact the user Amigao for the settlement. I do not think it is doable.02:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)Killapest (talk)

We do not know who the user Amigao really is, also do not really know how to contact him meaningfully. He is doing this sabatago on purpose, so how do we convince him to stop this madness?

If cannot remove Dr.Ke Wu's page, and cannot stop this madness, so just keep letting this fake information on Dr。Ke Wu's wikipedia page? unbelievable.

User: KillapestKillapest (talk) 02:28, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Killapest, you do not need to create new topics for every reply. Please answer under the original header above by clicking "edit section". JavaHurricane 02:31, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Note: the now removed header (pre-merge) noted that the user is a friend of the subject and not paid. Accordingly I will inform the user about conflict of interest editing. JavaHurricane 02:36, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

The user Amigao keep sabotaging Dr. Ke Wu by inserting the fake claim

Dear Sir,

Could you please look into the matter of the user Amigao keeps inserting fake information against Dr. Ke Wu Wikipedia page. The fake information is as following:

"Wu was a former delegate to the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference and an advisor to the Overseas Chinese Affairs Office of the Chinese Communist Party's United Front Work Department"

Thanks

Wikipedia user: killapest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Killapest (talk • contribs) 01:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

See my response above. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:55, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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Icewhiz SPI

Hi Oshwah, can you undo your deletion? A ton of history was just lost. We can simply revert the SPI to an older version instead. Sro23 (talk) 04:11, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Sro23! Yeah, I just realized that right after I performed the deletion. Page restored and reverted. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

List of Nintendo Entertainment System games

Hi Oshwah, can you help with all the socks here? Thanks, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh boy, there's a lot of shenanigans happening on this list article. I've blocked two accounts for being confirmed sock puppets, the other for WP:NOTHERE, and I've protected the article for a few hours. If you need anything else, don't be a stranger. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:22, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Best regards, 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 04:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

You bet! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for a quick response to the abuse! JavaHurricane 04:24, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

JavaHurricane - No problem; always happy to lend a hand! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:25, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

You might have missed a ping

Hello Oshwah. Hope you are doing well and remembers me. Few days back, I had pinged you in this [7] thread on my talk page where I had a doubt regarding one of our policies. But you missed the ping somehow:) (Or is it because I pinged you wrongly?) If you are free, can you spend some time to give us a clarification on our doubt? Its a quite lengthy discussion. Please see the bottom Regards. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 05:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Kashmorwiki! I'm sorry that I somehow missed your ping to me on the discussion you're having. Sure, I can take a look at it and offer input. What clarification are you looking for? What exactly is in doubt? Can you summarize what's going on in a nutshell so that I know what I'll be looking at? :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 05:50, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Dont worry Oshwah. You are the most helpful admin Ive ever seen. Anyway you missed it somehow. Just leave it. I will give you my last comment from that thread here;I have lot of doubts regarding the guidlines after somebody is caught for SP. I hope you know that I was attacked by multiple socks. Leave that for now and my question is that does our policy says that if a person is caught for SP, is it like that they cannot create a new account for having a fresh start by declaring something like I was blocked once for SP and I request wikicommunity to give me one more chance. Is it allowed? Because I never saw such things anywhere? I already got an answer from an admin regarding this and is still having this doubt in my mind. Because for some other kind of blocks, I have seen some users were given a second chance. Me itself has requested Oshwah for remove the block of one user called Aarya. Coming to the case of the sock who attacked me, they dont deserve a chance at all. They were blocked like infinite number of times. Pinging Oshwah for a clarification. Hope he doesnt miss this. Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:00, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki - Blocks and sanctions apply per-person, not per-account. This means that if I'm sanctioned and indefinitely blocked for sock puppetry, I cannot come back later, create a new account, state that I was once blocked long ago as Oshwah, and expect to be in compliance with policy. I am still evading my original block by creating this new account. For me to be able to edit within compliance of policy, I have to properly address, appeal, and have my blocks and sanctions lifted using my original sock account (Oshwah).

Users who are under active blocks or sanctions are not eligible for a clean start. Users who create accounts stating that they've been blocked wishing to appeal their block are doing it completely wrong and will usually have that account blocked on-sight. The user needs to log into their original master account, and appeal their block successfully using that account. Once those issues have been taken care of, the user will be free to edit if the sanctions and blocks are lifted. But to answer your question: No, users who are under blocks will violate their block by creating another account, regardless of their intent. They're still blocked as a person; they're just using a new account that isn't blocked in order to edit or appeal their block improperly.

Please let me know if you have any questions or if there is anything that I can clarify or explain further that will help you. I hope that my response here helped to answer your questions and provide clarity. If this is not the case, let me know and I'll be happy to explain further and go over things with you so that everybody understands. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:16, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Understood Oshwah, neat and clean :) This user has been creating like infinite number of accounts. So I was wondering why cant they request for an unblock instead of creating new ones? Thank you for your response and I clearly understood it. Im happy that you are always happy to help:) Regards Kichu🐘 ^{Need any help?} 06:23, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Kashmorwiki - Thank you for the kind words! I really appreciate it! :-) Most accounts can request an unblock, but for one reason or another choose not to. The only reason why they wouldn't be able to request an unblock on their user talk page is if they had their user talk page access revoked due to abuse (in that case, they can appeal via UTRS). Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:51, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

In regards to a highly problematic editor and a recent Sockpuppet Investigation

Hello Oshwah, firstly I would like to thank you for replying in this SPI[8], as the backlog for SPIs is currently huge. Secondly, I have some questions regarding your conclusion on it, namely I would like to know if your investigative work also included the account that appears on diffs I presented as evidence [9][10] because the behavior and edit summaries are extremely similar, practically identical, I have to be remark that I am talking exclusively about the editors Huasteca and Php2000, not the editor janitor102, which I'm not familiar with and for which evidence seems to be weak. I believe this request for a "second opinion" of mine is entirely necessary, as the editor Huasteca continues persistently defacing articles related to Mexico, despite that I have presented plenty of sources that refute his arguments and have explained them to him with a fair amount of detail. In fact an hour ago even a new IP account with less than 10 edits appeared out of nowhere to revert me and is creating a huge mess in the article [11], editing on clearly bad faith [12]. I think something has to be done with urgency. Pob3qu3 (talk) 00:29, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Pob3qu3! Thanks for the message! No problem; I'm always happy to help with SPI and help put a stop to sock puppetry. The one thing you need to remember is that technical evidence - the IP address and user agent information I can pull up with Checkuser - does not preclude behavioral evidence when it comes to investigating sock puppetry. When I ran the checkuser tools, I pulled information from the accused sock puppet (Huasteca), and compared them to the accused master, as well as a few sock accounts that were listed in the SPI's archive. The most information that I can give you is that they were geolocated in different countries and were on completely different ranges - that's all I can really tell you, unfortunately. There just wasn't more for me to go off of... The SPI report is still open and will be investigated by someone for behavioral evidence. There have been plenty of times where I've blocked users at SPI for behavioral evidence when the technical evidence was unrelated. After all, when it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck - it's a DUCK. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Pob3qu3 That anonymous IP was not me. I have checked it and it is geolocated to Indonesia. I understand your suspicions but I do not edit Wikipedia anonymously. Im trying to engage with you in the talk page constructively and this is the only account I use. Neither of us are bad faith editors so I suggest we try to discuss our disagreement calmly and find a solution. Huasteca (talk) 14:16, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Huasteca - Thank you for responding and for engaging with Pob3qu3 on the article's talk page. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:56, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply Oshwah, I notice that the editor Huasteca is having conflicts with multiple editors across multiple topics and noticeboards. That makes dificult to plan what to do next, I'll see how things unfold in the following days and will keep you updated of new occurrences. Pob3qu3 (talk) 23:54, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Pob3qu3 - Okay, definitely keep me updated. I'll be happy to help; just let me know. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:22, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

April 2021

Oof. Regarding this, someone was triggered. LMAO, they really got pressed. Hahahaha. Thanks for the reversion. Best, Fizconiz (talk) 04:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Fizconiz! I have no idea! I took a look at the /24 range contributions, and I found nothing... I'm not sure who that was from or why. Anyways, no problem. Always happy to help. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:12, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks as always. BilCat (talk) 05:03, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mohini Mohan Patnaik (April 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by CommanderWaterford was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

• If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Mohini Mohan Patnaik and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Oshwah! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! CommanderWaterford (talk) 07:02, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi CommanderWaterford! That actually wasn't my submission. I simply added the submission template to the draft page after being asked by Pathless1 with help with how to do it. You might want to reach out to him/her and let them know. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:13, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Not a test on Matt Haig's page btw

Hi, Not a test as you suggested on Haig's page just a proofread suggestion. Thatnks for fixing it for furtures readers, or whomever did it. Not sure what a test would mean. Don't really care at this point. You saw how it was previously incorrect English, yes? They left two descriptor words in and the both don't fit. I just brought that to light and viola, problem collectively fixed. Someone's going to look at it anyway before it gets left for good right? Plus I wasn't the author and wouldn't know which word was most appropriate so I left that decision for more vested contributors with easy-to-find markings. But it should be readable but wasn't. Carry on Ciao! 68.8.103.188 (talk) 09:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message regarding your edit to Matt Haig. I'm glad that the grammar issue has been fixed. Someone will surely review the edit and future edits to the article, and will fix any issues that arise. If you have any questions or need help with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know. I'll be more than happy to lend you a hand. ;-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:53, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Sock?

User:Denizgzmis3877 appears to be a sock of User:Traylaor46, given the time of account creation and what they are doing to certain articles. NonsensicalSystem^(error?)_(.log) 11:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi NonsensicalSystem! Thanks for the message and for letting me know about your concerns regarding these two users. They're both blocked, so I'm not going to make this a high priority. If you wish to file an SPI with evidence, please do so and someone will take a look at it. Thanks again for your message, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

My external link got removed

My external link got removed by you today, I am not aware what I am doing wrong. Please can you guide me? I want to add value to wiki in a standard manner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DIY Schools (talk • contribs) 11:50, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi DIY Schools! Thanks for leaving me a message here. Your edit here to Category:Private schools in Lucknow was problematic because you were adding an external link to your own website. This is not allowed on Wikipedia and was why I removed your edit. Please review Wikipedia's policy on advertising and promotion and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:23, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

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BilCat - Received and replied to you a few hours ago. Sorry, forgot to let you know. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

No worries, I got your reply. Thanks again! BilCat (talk) 06:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

BilCat - You bet! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:29, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

No subject

Nuk me intereso fare per politike. Thjesht dikush eshte duke fshi informacion ne menyre selektive. Sapo e bene prap pasi me shkrove ti. Atehere meqe je moderator merr masat sic duhet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vete91 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Vete91! I'm not sure what you're referring to, but I simply put the message you saw on your user talk page there to fix a mistake for another user. That user messaged you on your user page accidentally. What the message refers to? I have no idea. You'll want to discuss the matter with that user directly. Please let me know if I can answer any questions or help with anything, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:25, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm DannyS712. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, User:Mtatrain1000, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

DannyS712 (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi DannyS712! Weird, it must've been curated on accident. Thanks for letting me know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:25, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

mxlir

Dear sir, I'm living beside alEman mosque and this Masjid broacast online lesson as I mentiined each Friday after alFajr prayer, It's a good idea to keep this note. to let people worldwide know that. but it's possible to only remove the link because it could be changed by time.

The lesson will still available.

also my info is not inappropriate!

Thank you understanding the issue.

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message here! I don't know what edit or article you may be referring to - can you help me out and point me to where you're talking about? I'll be more than happy to help you; I just need to have some elaboration on what you need help with. Let me know. :-) Thanks - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:21, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Vanessa Beeley

Hi,

Vanessa Beeley's article reads like a hit piece. You recently undid the changes with that. If I applied edits incorrectly, I sincerely apologize, but to have any critic of the Syrian civil war have their wikipedia article be a glorified attack piece --- it is absurd. Her article reads like propaganda against her, and her "bio" completely omits her journalistic accomplishments. This isn't right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geriv98 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Geriv98, and thanks for leaving me a message here regarding your edit to Vanessa Beeley. There were a few issues with your edit here. First, it removed a lot of content that appeared well-referenced and supported by reliable sources. Second, it added unreferenced content that wasn't worded to reflect a neutral point of view by saying that the article subject was a "antiwar activist and critic of pro-Western interventionist propaganda surrounding the Syrian civil war". This is why I reverted your edit. Please refer to the policies and guidelines that I've linked you to, and please let me know if you have any questions. I'll be happy to answer them and help you. :-) Thanks again for the message, and I wish you a great weekend and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:02, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello

I have a question, if you make a 2nd account, does it means I will get a warning? Because my first account was logged out and can't know the password. Thanks!

--XecityZaien (talk) 04:17, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi XecityZaien! No, your second account creation is legitimate because you did so for a legitimate reason, and because you disclosed your other account on your user page. So long as you're not creating multiple accounts in order to violate policy, you have nothing to worry about. :-) Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:21, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Followup to previous message

Follow up question: I read the argument for a neutral point of view and if I make any changes in the future I will strive to make them in a more appropriate way. I have other questions, however:

How is Beeley's top/summary paragraph neutral? It paints her as dishonest or not creditable, and one of the fist sourced websites to that is the Times of Israel. That's like sourcing articles on 19th century Korea or China to some hyper nationalist/jingoist Japanese website --- or any other equivalently audacious comparison. That is not to say that such a website doesn't have good elements, it (as almost all websites do) does, but it is not neutral regarding it's portrayal of Beeley.

More specifically, why is Bellingcat allowed to be sourced? Bellingcat is a propaganda arm of the CIA, it's no more neutral on Syria and Iraq than a self-identified far-right website is on leftist policies. If Bellingcat is allowed to exist, why are there too few contrasting pro-Beeley articles?(Such as the sourced website) (https://archive.is/hNruQ) (Archived link)

In the meanwhile I will look at the rest of Wikipedia's guidelines regarding edits. I look forward to hearing back from you, and once again I apologize for editing in the wrong fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geriv98 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi again, Geriv98! Thanks for the message - I'll be more than happy to help you here. I highly appreciate you for wanting to read through Wikipedia's policies and guidelines and to grow and learn with us. We're happy to have you here, and I hope you take off your jacket and stay awhile! :-) So, it sounds like you have concerns regarding the opening lead summary and the references used on the Vanessa Beeley article. What I recommend you do in order to address this is to start a new discussion on the article's talk page here. Express your concerns just like you did here, and ask for input and suggest what changes should be made. This is exactly what talk pages are for, and I encourage you to take advantage of them.

Since you're brand new to Wikipedia, I highly recommend that you go through Wikipedia's getting started page and that you complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial before you make any edits or take on any major tasks around here. It will provide you with many important walkthroughs, guides, interactive lessons, and other information that will familiarize you with our policies and guidelines, how Wikipedia works, how to navigate around the site, and how to find important locations and pages. Most users who take this advice and complete the tutorial tell me later that it was significantly helpful to them and saved them hours of time and frustration they would've experienced otherwise. If you run into any questions or need any input or assistance after reading through these help pages, please don't be a stranger! I'm available, and I'm more than happy to help you with anything that you need. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:31, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investihations Ulasbrdkci40

Hello Oshwah. I m User:Denizgezmis557761. Ulasbrdkci40, Ulasbrdkci41, 42, 43, 44 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, Denizgzmsss557761 me. Denizzgzmisssss557761 (talk) 05:51, 24 April 2021 (UTC) Im Denizgezmis557761 Ulasbrdkci40 Not Sockpuppeter ı m sockpuppeter. Denizzgzmisssss557761 (talk) 05:55, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey!

Oshwah, Ulasbrdkci40 not suckpuppeter sockpuppeter me. Sockpuppeter User:Denizgezmis557761. Dnzgzms557761 (talk) 05:59, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hey!

Ulasbrdkci40 not sockpuppeter! Sockpuppeter me. Sockpuppeter User:Denizgezmis557761. Denizgzzmss557761 (talk) 06:05, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Ulasbrdkci40 My sockpuppet

Ulasbrdkci40 not sockpuppeter Ulasbrdkci40 my sockpuppet ı m User:Denizgezmis557761. Denizgzzmss557761 (talk) 06:06, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

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Hey! Oshwah, Ulasbrdkci40 not sockpuppeter! Sockpuppeter me. Sockpuppeter User:Denizgezmis557761. I m sockpuppet of User:Denizgezmis557761 79Daopaoda78 (talk) 06:11, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

Is it bad to just make a template? If yes then how do you make your username into red and serif?

• sorry i didn't signature.

--XecityZaien (talk) 07:36, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

@XecityZaien: On his user page, Oshwah put in the following code: {{DISPLAYTITLE:User:<b><span style="color:#C00000">Oshwah</span></b>}}

Place that code on your own user page, replacing the Oshwah with your username and the #C00000 with the hex code for a color, and you too can be the proud owner of a colorful username. Ian.thomson (talk) 07:42, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay!

--XecityZaien (talk) 07:48, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi XecityZaien! What did you want to create a template of exactly? I see that Ian.thomson has answered your question regarding the color of my username on my user page. Let me know and I'll be happy to help you! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:15, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't have any ideas to make a template, just a question only. Sorry for wasting your time. :) -XecityZaien (talk) 01:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien - Don't be sorry! You're not wasting my time at all. If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask them. My user talk page is completely open to you, and you're welcome to come to me and ask me about anything you need. :-) Did you still have a question in regards to making a template? If so, do ask! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:07, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

dumb question

How do I register on IRC? I've tried it but the bot keeps saying "no valid nick/channel" when I try to message NickServ. Jdcomix (talk) 21:53, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jdcomix! That's not a dumb question at all. I'll be more than happy to help you out. Have you seen this tutorial? It shows you how to register your nick on IRC and protect it with a password. Let me know if you still have trouble, and I'll be happy to go over it with you. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:18, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Godalming article help please

I am taking you at your word Oshwah and asking for help. If you have some time please could you look at edits on the Godalming article and its talk page subsequent to this bold addition [13]? The talk page is not heavily viewed but three editors have been involved User: Cladeal832, User: Murgatroyd49 and myself. All three of us have been editors for several years. I have limited areas of competence. There has been disagreement as to whether particular Enton Hall material relating to James Bond in one settlement (Witley) should be included in another settlement’s article (Godalming). I do not see that further discussion between us on talk is likely to be productive and edit warring is already near taking place.SovalValtos (talk) 04:58, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Obliviously I disagree with this characterization, yet my actions could have be more helpful as well as less pugnacious and definitely more succinct so I regret and apologize for that. Yet I'm still up for a productive conservation towards compromise or at least a better understanding of their perspective. Cladeal832 (talk) 05:24, 25 April 2021 (UTC).

I'm afraid I've had enough of User: Cladeal832 bullying and personal attacks and am bowing out of Wikipedia, goodbye and have fun. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:17, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Murgatroyd49 - Instead of resorting to leaving Wikipedia, why not let me help you? What incivility and bullying are you referring to? Can you link me to where exactly? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:43, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

I can think of some examples on their part. [14] Cladeal832 (talk) 21:01, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Oswah please could you tell me if you are unlikely to find time to look at edits on the Godalming article as I asked above? The loss of Murgatroyd49 (an editor of enduring quality) has regrettably already occurred. I did not want to lead you by pointing at the edit warring from a user already blocked for such in the past as I thought a complete run through the edits would be better. If you are not going to have time to do this please could you suggest another admin who might? Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 02:32, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

SovalValtos - The loss of Murgatroyd49 over this is quite sad to see, and I'm disappointed to see that it came to that. Unfortunately, I'm not an expert nor very involved with this article subject. The best advice I can give you is to follow Wikipedia's dispute resolution protocol - get a wider opinion, start an RFC, and keep going from there. Just don't edit war. ;-) If things get out of hand and you need to report another user for edit warring that's currently in progress, or report them for other behavioral issues, remember that ANI and AN3 are at your disposal. I don't think things currently require the use of those noticeboards, but I'm letting you know about them just in case. If I can be of any assistance with anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:13, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not responsible for anybody else choosing to edit or not edit. As somebody as you pointed out who has gotten blocked temporarily for edit warring, I'd point out the other users in those cases also got blocked as well. I've learned that one can't edit war by oneself... It takes at least two as you also engaged it. Cladeal832 (talk) 06:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Cladeal832 - I noticed that you accidentally made your last edit above while logged out. For your security and privacy, I went ahead and suppressed the revision and your IP address for you. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:23, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Oops, you're totally right. Thank you, I appreciate that. Cladeal832 (talk) 06:30, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Cladeal832 - No problem. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:31, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Oshwah I am hoping you are quietly beavering away in the background looking at the edits and will come back here or on the article talk at your leisure. They are heavy going.

The manner of edits and their cumulative effect on others, from the editor who starts a comment above with the Freudian slip “Obliviously”, is what matters to me. The loss of User:Murgatroyd49 is more than quite sad to me. And I will do what I can to get him/her back. I do not have email enabled and don't know if they do. By the way we are not the same person as has been implied.

I had hoped that you would have reverted the disputed content to the status quo ante.

I am looking for active help rather than advice in the form of referral to dispute resolution protocol, RFC, AN1 or AN3 which are terms that trip of the keyboard of an admin but fill the heart of an editor with limited areas of competence with gloom. That route leads to a vista of hours, if not days of trying to understand how to go about it. Please help! I realise that you edit for your own enjoyment so will understand if you don’t.

Comments such as [15], [16], [17] have not been helpful or given confidence of competence. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 18:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

SovalValtos - Let me ping Cladeal832 into this. Cladeal832, what exactly is the issue here? What's going on? I'm glad that you two haven't edited the article since April 24, but why am I seeing edit warring going on in the article? I see that the edits revolve around adding content about James Bond to the article and having it removed again. I can't decide for you two as to whether or not the content should be included; all I can do is direct you both to discuss the content on the article's talk page and work things out. I don't want to have to fully protect the article or impose any blocks for edit warring, so please don't continue edit warring and make me do that. ;-) You two have to work things out and come to a consensus with this dispute. Also, let's not make accusations at to whether or not accounts are the same person. It doesn't help resolve the dispute, and it doesn't help the encyclopedia. Discuss things constructively! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Meanwhile Oshwah please will you remove the boldly added text to the the status quo ante?SovalValtos (talk) 19:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I've been accused of having a persecution complex [which feels uncivil to me at least],[18], but I've had a negative experience with this editor where he/she removed content that he/she already accepted was accurate with a valid source [19] in what I considered to be just meanspirited spitefulness or some sense of condensation towards me with my somewhat trivial edits or that the 'enduring quality' of his/her edits were shown up as wrong and not so enduring. I get that was just my interpretation and I could be too sensitive and I didn't up bring his/her motives, but when I pointed it out that my sourcing was valid, he/she violated the rules of civility [20], but I just choose to move past it, but I admit I was very hesitate to reengage with this editor out of attempt to avoid more abuse and insults. I get there are more likely better ways to deal with this, but as somebody who has been point out has gotten blocked before, even if it was years and years ago, for what I thought, at least at the time, were were correct edits, maybe I'm more hesitant to seek help from admins since I think they'll just block me and they'll just defer to 'enduring quality' editors rather just some niche, trivial James Bond fans like myself. Again, I could be totally wrong on this editor's motives and what I learned from getting blocked for edit warring is that while I might want to point the finger at this or that thing the other user did wrong, admins are more interested in the actions of both sides and trying a bit of self-reflection and I have taken that to heart, but at this point it's been dragged out so sorry if I dug into the motives and my reactions to it. Regardless of the motives of the person who removes my edits, I should be able to make the case for my edits through stuff like citation of style guidelines or examples of it on other similar articles which I did.

I was a bit suspicious of how much they edited in-sync with each other and how they made the same of kinds of mistakes such as forgetting periods,[21][22] but I never wrote that they were sockpuppets of each other, only asking the question and besides I looked at the sockpuppet policy and even if they were sockpuppets, they weren't causing any actual harm so there wouldn't have been grounds to report it really and the policy also confirmed it isn't uncivil to just ask in an unrude way, but as has been pointed out, even just asking the question from simple curiosity probably doesn't help the situation in an edit dispute, so sorry for that. Also I just disagree with how User:SovalValtos tried, or didn't try, to find consensus and cited the Wikipedia policy to that effect. It's not a personal insult to disagree with somebody or point out a mistake when done in an civil manner. While more than insinuating I'm incompetent is just dandy though. Cladeal832 (talk) 20:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I tried again to have a discussion on the Talk Page. Basically a country manor house named Enton Hall was later converted into a health farm (I guess it's around 4 miles from Godalming according to the real estate listing [23]) and Ian Fleming visited it in 1956 which inspired him to write about James Bond visiting a health farm which takes up about a ¼ of the novel Thunderball and the health farm is also in the movie of the same name. The descriptions of the health farm in the novel are exactly like Enton Hall.[24] I admit it might be considered by some as fairly trivial, but I've noted several local news outlets which highlighted the connection.[25][26] Cladeal832 (talk) 22:01, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Just to update[27][28]. Also I feel like this message may violate WP:PA especially uncomfortable publicly stating my citizenship and stating it incorrectly which I mentioned before[29], but the policy page also recommends it might just be for the best to turn a blind eye to it and it's really WP:PASSIVE anyhow. Cladeal832 (talk) 05:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

This discussion is still live and I would not like to see it archived without resolution. Witley the settlement that contains Enton Hall is indeed near Godalming and can reasonably contain Enton Hall James Bond material. The edit [30] boldly adding the Enton Hall material to the Godalming article was made four weeks ago but has not received any support on talk for inclusion in the Godalming article from any editor other than the bold editor. It has been opposed by two editors. Please Oshwah will you remove the boldly added text to get back to the state before bold, revert and then replace? If it is not something you want or have time to do please could you say if there is a reason why I should not do so now?SovalValtos (talk) 11:02, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

SovalValtos - I don't want to interfere with the article or the discussion by removing any content. This would cause me to be seen as choosing sides, something that a neutral party shouldn't be doing. How have the discussions on the article's talk page been going? If others are opposed to the content, and if nobody has voiced support, I don't see a reason why you couldn't remove it. Just make sure that you don't edit war. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 11:05, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I voiced support for keeping it and no discussion has gone on it about it. There was a rage quit and a violation of consensus policy due to WP:CAN[31], but nothing came of it. Cladeal832 (talk) 17:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I get you take a neutral stance and I'm happy for that, but I just want to add this for the record since I get accused of some bad stuff on this page. I'm only trying [yet again] to make a case both why I made my little edit and against the case for its removal and understand my edits can be kept or reversed through community consensus [I've engaged in those kind of successful and unsuccessful discussions before], but that isn't the same as creating a demand I get approval from other users to make an edit or removing an edit because they state by disagreeing with them, I'm incompetent[32] and please see the fifth bullet point Wikipedia:Competence is required#What "Competence is required" does not mean. Cladeal832 (talk) 23:03, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Cladeal832 - I agree that the comment wasn't needed. SovalValtos, let's not make comments like this one and let's not make accusations toward other editors. We should be discussing the dispute peacefully and not making passive-aggressive comments, accusations, or other kinds of comments toward other editors. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:39, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello there. :)

Hi. Sorry for no questions because I was wondering about you all the time. --XecityZaien (talk) 01:19, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi XecityZaien! No worries; if you do come up with any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:21, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

I have a question now, Is bonk.io doesn't exist here? I made the information in my own sandbox and my information was a bad grammar. Thanks! -XecityZaien (talk) 02:44, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien - This looks to be an online game? I've never heard of it... lol ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Yesh it is a online game, bonk.io is just, bonking someone lol, nevermind but The description/information of bonk.io is some bad grammars that I did so I didn't made the page, and second, the Icon is not searched on google so I decided to screenshot the website's icon from bonk.io. Sorry that my grammar is bad just like an essay lol. --XecityZaien (talk) 13:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah, got'cha. Thanks for letting me know! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:32, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Access to edit

Dear Oshwah, sorry for my wrong operations due to my lack of editing experience. I am trying to edit the page by adding some content which was removed by no reason. Would you please tell me what I can do? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YushanLi 33 (talk • contribs) 06:55, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi YushanLi 33! Thanks for leaving a message on my talk page with your request for help. I'll be more than happy to point you in the right direction. The reason you were partially blocked from editing the Center for China and Globalization article for 72 hours was because you were edit warring. Edit warring occurs when you repeatedly undo or restore the same edits to an article or page in a circular or combative-like fashion with another editor. It's disruptive to edit war, and it's not allowed on Wikipedia. To avoid edit warring, you need to discuss the content dispute with the other editor on the article's talk page here. Work together with the editor to come to a consensus and resolve the dispute properly. Communicate with the other editor and work with them; you might find that your edit has unintended consequences or that it has issues that you don't know about. Communication with the other editor will verify this and assure that things are worked out. Keep in mind that Wikipedia also has a bright line rule when it comes to edit warring, called the three-revert rule. I recommend reading through these policies first before you resume editing. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Dear Oshwah, thank you for your help. However, I don't think it's appropriate to ban my editing rights. It should be pointed out that this editorial war was not initiated by our side. Although I have little editing experience, I have been learning. In this edition, I used reliable references, but they were completely ignored. I have tried to communicate with Amigao, but I don't think my contribution is respected by the other party, because my contribution has been deleted for no reason. These can be seen from the editing history. I hope you will give me another chance to have a discussion with Amigao. — Preceding unsigned comment added by YushanLi 33 (talk • contribs) 05:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

YushanLi 33 - You're only partially-blocked at the moment and from editing the Center for China and Globalization article. You're able to edit all other pages on Wikipedia except for that one. If you wish to discuss the dispute with the other editor, you're able to do so - nothing is stopping you from doing so. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:12, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Blablubbs. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, User:WrightBro571, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Blablubbs|talk 09:13, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Blablubbs: curious what the point of unreviewing that was? The page, as it stands, is perfectly fine and needs no review. Elli (talk | contribs) 12:05, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

@Elli: Misclick; I retagged a couple dozen socks and patrolled the ones that hadn't been patrolled, that one must have slipped in. Don't remember consciously clicking the unreview button (and especially not confirming it) anywhere. Sorry Oshwah. Blablubbs|talk 12:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Blablubbs - No worries! It's not a big deal... :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

Remember the discussion at the Administrator noticeboard about an IP user (64.121.103.144)? I've followed most of your advice. I am that old IP user who now has an account! StarshipSLS (talk) 15:58, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi StarshipSLS! That's great! Welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad that you decided to join us and use an account! Take a look at my next advice steps and go through Wikipedia's getting started page and Wikipedia's new user tutorial - they'll be very helpful. If you have any questions or need my help with anything, please let me know and I'll be happy to do so! Thanks for the message, and again - welcome! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:08, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for your help! StarshipSLS (talk) 16:04, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

You're welcome, StarshipSLS! Always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:09, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Question 2

Is Wikipedia have badges/achievements? XecityZaien (talk) 00:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien - Does Wikipedia have badges and achievements? Sure! Check out this page regarding service awards, and this page for other awards that can be given out. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:40, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Page move help

Hi Oshwah, about a month ago I mentioned to you that a move discussion looked like it was being canvassed. The discussion is at Talk:Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority#Requested move 21 March 2021. Today, the. discussion was finally closed, but as no.consensus, with no mention of the canvassing concerns. Again, this has been very frustrating. I don't mind losing a fair consensus, but this was not fair. If all Indonesian IPs who contributed are discounted, the consensus is clearly in favor of moving the page. I'm not sure what to do next. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi BilCat! That's a good question, honestly... You could voice your concerns on the talk page, or voice your concerns to the closing user. Have you tried doing that? Your first point of contact would definitely be the user that closed the discussion. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:04, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

To be honest, I see no evidence from their closing comments that the closer even read the discussion at all. I'm too emotional about this at the moment to be civil with them. BilCat (talk) 02:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

BilCat - I commend you for acknowledging your emotional state and for not engaging with the user while you believe that you might not be civil toward them. I wish other users would follow your example and do the same thing. :-) Give it a day, take a break, and come back when you've cleared your mind and can voice your concerns with the closing user in a civil manner. It's okay to step back for awhile and let yourself get emotionally clear again. Things happen that we can't always control. It's what you do with the things that you do have control over that make the difference. Remember: People may remember you for the things you do, but people will definitely remember you for the way you treat them. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:28, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Some help

174.22.97.172 (talk · contribs). Thanks, Oshwah. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:36, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Bob! The user is blocked for one week for the repeated removal of content without explanation. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you, and I'll be happy to help! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:42, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Cheers! 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:43, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Until next time, Bob! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Questions that you might answer.

Can Wikipedia allows Grammarly to make the grammars correctly?

Who is Jimmy Wales?

Why is the website named "Wikipedia"?

Is there no bureaucrat and admin/sysop?

What's your favorite food? (lol this is not a personal question xD)

Thanks for answering my questions. :)

-XecityZaien (talk) 10:20, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien, partial answer:

• Its a portmanteau of wiki and encyclopedia, coined by Larry Sanger.
• See Jimmy Wales.

Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi XecityZaien!

• I'm not sure about Grammarly integration. We'd have to speak with the development team on that one. Maybe MusikAnimal would know something?
• Jimmy Wales is the co-founder of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation. He also has an account here, Jimbo Wales.
• Like Gråbergs Gråa Sång said above, it is a portmanteau of "wiki" and "encyclopedia", coined by Larry Sanger - the other co-founder.
• There are administrators and bureaucrats on Wikipedia. See these pages for more information on what they do.
• Burgers! I love burgers! With lettuce, raw onion, mustard, and mayonnaise. Hand me one of those and you'll almost certainly make me happy. :-)

Let me know if you have any more questions. I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:15, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Oshwah and Grabergs Graaa Saang, cheers :) (sorry I added many a's on Grabergs cause I don't understand his username) --XecityZaien (talk) 01:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien - No problem! Always happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:40, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

SPI question

Kinda curious - I was perusing Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets and Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets and I noticed a lot of tagged IP addresses - such as User:24.87.36.246 - which have not edited in over a decade. Since the IP has almost certainly been reassigned at this point - would it make sense to blank or G6 these pages, or is it useful to still keep them around? Elli (talk | contribs) 13:17, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Elli! Good question. Let me ask some other checkusers. Mz7, ST47 - What are your thoughts on this question? I would think that we'd leave them alone, but I wanted to ask you in order to be sure. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

All of those tags on IP address user pages are relics from the early days of Wikipedia, when the project was still quite immature. Nowadays, we generally do not ever tag IP addresses. I would probably support a proposal to mass-delete all of those tags—they are totally useless now, and since new, unrelated editors may appear on those IPs, they may even be counterproductive in the sense that they would mislabel those new editors. Mz7 (talk) 19:47, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Ah geez, the only problem would be the sheer volume of them. I took a look through those categories, and it seems like there could be thousands of these pages. It would almost certainly have to be done programmatically instead of manually, which would require some kind of community consensus, e.g. at WP:VPR. It may be more effort than it's worth. Mz7 (talk) 19:50, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Mz7 I wouldn't mind doing this at some point in the future (assuming I ever become an admin) - it's good to know that these aren't really useful anymore. Elli (talk | contribs) 19:56, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

The issue with automation is that some of the categories name IPs as masters but have actual named accounts in them, meaning that we'd have to move them and retag the socks. A rather elaborate script could probably do it, but I'm not sure it's worth it. I do think it makes sense to formally deprecate the use of {{IPsock}}. --Blablubbs|talk 07:17, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Question

How do you do the table of your contents on your talk page? The yellow long-rectangle thing with a label says "Table of Contents". /-\<XecityZaien (talk) 02:01, 28 April 2021 (UTC)>\-/

XecityZaien - This one is going to be a little bit tricky since you're new here. Would you rather I just add it to your talk page for you? ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Oshwah Sure, sorry for disturbing you, just to tell you this is my last question because I'm running out of new features in Wikipedia. -XecityZaien (talk) 07:16, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

XecityZaien - Again, you don't need to be sorry. I'm happy to help with anything that you need. Okay, all  Done! I've added that table of contents table (where it's collapsed by default) to your user talk page. Let me know if you change your mind and would like it removed, and I'll be happy to remove it for you. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Requesting Help

Hello Oswah! You are the only admin I knew so I come to you for this request. This article Rohit Sardana is heavily vandalized, with tons of editors editing left and right, some of them are constructive but some of them are vandalism, and attempts to revert to stable version are difficult because there are tons of edit attempts. I have made request at WP:RFPP but haven't been responded yet. Could you help on this case? Thank you! SunDawn (talk) 11:02, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi SunDawn! Thanks for leaving me a message here. I apologize for the delay getting back to you. It looks like the article has been protected, so we're good to go! If you need anything else, let me know and I'll be happy to help. :-) Best - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:18, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

No problem, thank you! SunDawn (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

SunDawn - You bet! ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:42, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

User:לוקאס קללה

Hi Oshwah, I have blocked User:לוקאס קללה as not here but a closer look suggests that it is a sock of User:Lass-Lass/User:Jamaica 1963/User:Bahamas 1973. Is the block sufficient or does more need to be done? I see the latter two are globally locked. Thanks, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Malcolmxl5! Sorry for the delay getting back to you. I've been busy lately and I'm just now getting caught up with all of the Wikipedia messages I received while I was offline. :-) If you suspect that this user is a sock puppet, it wouldn't hurt to open an SPI with evidence to see if it's the case - especially if there might be sleeper accounts. It's your choice; the user doesn't have a hugely extensive SPI archive, so it wouldn't draw any tears to just let it be. Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:21, 6 May 2021 (UTC)