User:Jnestorius/Jusiciar of Ireland

Goddard Henry Orpen 1911 "Ireland under the Normans" says Walter Harris' list is faulty.

Name Years Authorities
John de Courcy 1175–89+ Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4 "to at least the beginning of the reign of Richard I [which was 1189]
"Hugh de Lacy, Lord of Meath" 1189–91 Harris; Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4 demurs: Hugh de Lacy, Lord of Meath was dead, his son Hugh de Lacy, 1st Earl of Ulster is improbable.
William le Petit 1191 Harris; Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4 says possible but unproven.
William Marshal, 1st Earl of Pembroke 1191–4 Harris; Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4 says extremely improbable
Peter Pipard –1194– Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4
Hamo de Valognes 1196–8 Orpen Vol.2 p.131
Peter Pipard and William le Petit (joint) 1198–9 Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4
Meiler Fitzhenry 1199–autumn 1208 Orpen Vol.2 p.110-4
Hugh de Lacy, 1st Earl of Ulster c. Oct–Dec 1208 Orpen Vol.2 p.217
John de Gray c.Dec 1208–July 1213 Orpen pp.217,298 "By the Irish annalists he is usually designated 'the Foreign Bishop'." Orpen Vol.2 p.283: "According to some of the Irish annals [ Richard de Tuit] was left in Ireland as Lord Chief Justice in 1211, when John de Gray and the magnates of Ireland were summoned by the king to attend the expedition undertaken in that year against Llewelyn of Wales."
Henry de Loundres 23 July 1213–June 1215 Orpen Vol.2 p.300. Archbishop of Dublin
Geoffrey de Marisco (Mareis, Marsh) 6 July 1215–July 1221 Orpen Vol.2 p.300, Vol.3 p.13 Loundres remained archbishop; "in 1217, Geoffrey de Marisco was ordered to abide by the archbishop's counsel, especially as to disbursements from the Exchequer, and do nothing without his assent"
Henry de Loundres (again) 3 July 1221– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
William Marshal, 2nd Earl of Pembroke May 2, 1224– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. In William's absence in England in the winter of 1224-5 Geoffrey de Marisco was his deputy
Geoffrey de Marisco (2nd time) 25 June 1226– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
Richard Mor de Burgh 13 February 1228– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
Hubert de Burgh, 1st Earl of Kent 16 June 1232–29 June 1232 Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. Granted the office of justiciar of Ireland for life with power to appoint a deputy, and Richard de Burgh, as Hubert's deputy, was ordered to be intentive to Hubert. Hubert, however, was dismissed in disgrace on July 29, 1232, and there is no evidence that he ever acted as justiciar of Ireland.
Maurice FitzGerald, 2nd Lord of Offaly 2 September 1232– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
John FitzGeoffrey 4 November 1245– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14 He had previously acted during the absence of Maurice Fitz Gerald on the king's expedition to Wales from September 1245. On February 14, 1254, the king [ Henry III] made a grant of Ireland to his eldest son Prince Edward. John Fitz Geoffrey, though absent with the king in Bordeaux and afterwards with the prince, was seemingly continued as justiciar, with Richard de la Rochelle, seneschal of Prince Edward, as his lieutenant, until the appointment as justiciar of Alan de la Zuche.
Alan la Zouche shortly before 27 June 1256– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
Stephen Longespée before October 21, 1258– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. I guess the son (d.1260) of William Longespée, 3rd Earl of Salisbury
William de Dene by October 2, 1260– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. Died in office 1261. (Otway-Ruthven p.196)
Richard de la Rochelle October 28, 1261– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. He was imprisoned by the Geraldines on December 6, 1264. In consequence of the caption of the justiciar, and during the confusion caused by the Barons' War in England, the king, ostensibly on behalf of his son, committed the custody of Ireland to several persons in succession, namely on February 26, 1265, to Fulk Basset, Archbishop of Dublin ; on or before May 6, 1265, to Roger Waspail ; and on June 10, 1265, to Hugh de Taghmun, Bishop of Meath. On April 23, 1266, however, the king again addressed a writ to Richard de la Rochelle as justiciar or his deputy.
David de Barry, 1st Baron Barry Michaelmas 1266– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14
Robert d'Ufford c. Michaelmas 1268– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. On his returning to England in March 1270 Richard de Exeter performed the functions of justiciar. Maybe the (grand)father of Robert d'Ufford, 1st Earl of Suffolk?
James d'Audley Michaelmas 1270–23 June 1272 Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. broke his neck in Thomond
Maurice FitzGerald, 3rd Lord of Offaly c. August 1272– Orpen Vol.3 p.13-14. Deputed by the lieutenants of Prince Edward as justiciar.

References edit

The definitive reference is:

  • Fryde, E. B.; Greenway, D. E. (1996). Handbook of British chronology. Cambridge University Press. pp. 161–172. ISBN 9780521563505. Retrieved 21 August 2011.

But the above replica is mainly from Ireland Under the Normans (1911):

  • Vol.2
    In short, our scanty authorities only warrant us in stating that Peter Pipard was probably justiciar in 1194; that Hamo de Valognes was justiciar from about 1196 to shortly before the beginning of John's reign; and that Peter Pipard and William le Petit were 'joint justiciars' for a short time in 1198-9,^ until Meiler Fitz Henry was appointed by King John. Meiler appears to have been justiciar continuously up to about the autumn of 1208, and Harris's list is again faulty in making Hugh de Lacy lord-deputy in 1203 to 1205.
    When King John departed from Ireland he left behind him his faithful minister, John de Gray, Bishop of Norwich, as justiciar. By the Irish annalists he is usually designated 'the Foreign Bishop'. The epithet, whether so intended or not, may serve to recall the facts that he was the first episcopal viceroy and, with one or two unimportant exceptions, the first chief governor who had not already thrown in his fortunes with Ireland and was not a great Irish landholder.
  • Vol.3
    From 1254 to 1276 the appointments of justiciars do not appear on the rolls, and the precise dates cannot be fixed.

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