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Template-protected edit request 1 September 2017Edit

Add table sort values as per this guide to all the standard article assessment categories:

This way, when you click "sort" on the "assessment" column of a table containing articles, page views, and assessments, instead of sorting based on the alphabetical order of the quality categories (A→B→C→FA→FL→GA→Start→Stub), it will sort based on the article quality (FA→FL→A→GA→B→C→Start→Stub). See User:CJK09/Assessment/U.S. National Parks for an example of what I'm talking about. CJK09 (talk) 16:09, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

  Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. It's only semi-protected. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 16:16, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
I've reopened the request. I'm not requesting an edit of {{Grading scheme}}; I'm only posting on this talk page because the templates I would like to be edited all have talk pages redirecting to this talk page. To be clear, I am requesting edits, as explained above, to the following templates: {{Stub-Class}}, {{Start-Class}}, {{C-Class}}, {{B-Class}}, {{GA-Class}}, {{A-Class}}, {{FL-Class}}, {{FA-Class}}. These templates are all either template-protected or fully protected. Thanks, CJK09 (talk) 16:25, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Fixing request templates. —MRD2014 Talk • Edits • Help! 16:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Never mind, I've re-closed the request as I just realized the relationship between these templates and {{Class}} is more complex than I had realized. I'm going to make some tests in my sandbox, and then once my proposed outcome is working I will make a new edit request.

Protected edit request on 12 October 2017Edit

Please implement the sandbox versions of the following templates, which use the {{c}} template to avoid Multi-colon errors:

The other templates in this category are not cascade protected, so I can edit them directly as a template editor. --Ahecht (TALK
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  All done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 December 2017Edit

{{File-Class}} has an unpaired bold (''') tag. I assume the closing tag would go after |File]]}}.
Anomalocaris (talk) 10:03, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

  Done- it doesn't appear to have any practical effect on the testcases but mismatched quotes are a bug waiting to be tripped over, so - done. Cabayi (talk) 12:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 July 2018 (1)Edit

Please remove the ''' in '''{{#if:{{{category|}}}|{{c|{{{category}}}|Top}}|[[:Category:Top-importance articles|Top]]}}''' as they create a false double bolding. Kind regards Neufund (talk) 19:35, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  Not done for now: Neufund, I made this change in the sandbox for that template and the bolding seems to have disappeared in the testcases. Setting to answered=yes for now until there's a proposed fix for that. Enterprisey (talk!) 04:27, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
I see what's going on. We need to ensure that wherever the templates are used, that they appear in the header row of a table. This wasn't the case for the testcases when I checked. Interestingly enough, this template also seems to appear in some places where it's in a data row; I saw some places where there was an additional font-weight rule to make it bold, and some places where there wasn't. In general, we're going to have to be certain that every use of this (and the other importance templates with edit requests on this issue) appears in an appropriate location. Enterprisey (talk!) 04:58, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for commenting, Enterprisey! However, as I've realized, the problem unfortunately still persists, as can be seen here, for instance. Regards--Neufund (talk) 21:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@Enterprisey: I'm sorry but I still didn't quit get why it shouldn't be possible to simply fix the formatting in the relevant templates? In any case, the ''' are too much, as in each of the affected templates, there is already a ! at the beginning of the relevant [= first] line with the expression in question. Hoping for your enlightenment--Neufund (talk) 20:38, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
By "false double bolding" I assume that you mean that the bolding is superfluous when a template like {{top-importance}} is used in a table header cell, since header cells are boldfaced by default. However, it's also used in table data cells, which are normal weight by default but we still want the text to be bold. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:50, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
@Redrose64: Thanks for your reply! So, are you saying that there is no way to generally fix that? I mean, if you look at the relevant line !</noinclude>class="import-top {{{class|}}}" style="text-align:center; background:{{Importance/colour|top}}; {{{style|}}}" |'''{{#if:{{{category|}}}|{{c|{{{category}}}|Top}}|[[:Category:Top-importance articles|Top]]}}'''<noinclude>, you'll see that, as I already stated, we have a ! at the beginning of the line as well as ''' marks. Now, in the "table data cells" you refer to, is that line used without the !, so that the ''' become necessary there, or not?--Neufund (talk) 18:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, the bolding is necessary for those situations when the cell is marked up with | instead of !. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks then!--Neufund (talk) 22:21, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 July 2018 (2)Edit

Please remove the ''' in '''{{#if:{{{category|}}}|{{c|{{{category}}}|High}}|[[:Category:High-importance articles|High]]}}''' as they create a false double bolding. Kind regards, Neufund (talk) 19:38, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

  Done StevenJ81 (talk) 16:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Reverted myself. Didn't read the preceding one carefully enough. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:58, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 30 July 2018 (3)Edit

Please remove the ''' in '''{{#if:{{{category|}}}|{{c|{{{category}}}|Mid}}|[[:Category:Mid-importance articles|Mid]]}}''' as they create a false double bolding. Kind regards Neufund (talk) 19:39, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Hiding unused classes such as AEdit

A lot of WikiProjects ignore the A-class rating in their grading scheme. While there is the option to mention that in the example parameter (something like "This WikiProject does not use A-Class"), I think it would be beneficial to have another parameter that allows you to omit it altogether so that it doesn't show in the chart for that particular WikiProject. I looked through the talk page history and didn't see any past discussion on this. Thoughts? Other ideas? --GoneIn60 (talk) 19:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 July 2021Edit

In Template:A-Class, please remove the interlanguage link [[da:Skabelon:A-Klasse]]. It redirects to a template that is already connected by wikidata, so it is redundant. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 09:53, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

  Done firefly ( t · c ) 10:07, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Start class, expanded descriptionEdit

As of July 4, 2008, the expanded description for Start class includes this sentence: No Start-Class article should be in any danger of being speedily deleted.

That might have been true in 2008, with whatever state the speedy criteria were in at the time, but it is no longer true. A number of the criteria might apply to an article that is Start or better class. I propose that sentence be removed. (It's currently being cited by a new editor as a reason their article cannot be CSD'd.) Schazjmd (talk) 20:42, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

@Schazjmd: The link is to the Articles section of the CSD page (the A criteria). This would mean that any of the G criteria could still be used. If we consider the eight A criteria in more detail, most of them (A1, A3, A5, A7, A9 and A11) would normally be used only on articles that are too short to qualify for anything other than Stub-class. The other two (A2 and A10) both cover redundancy, and I don't see how Start-class assessment would eliminate such duplication.
If somebody is deliberately assessing a poor-quality page as Start-class with a view to exempting the page from CSD, that is improper use of article assessment. Assessment is driven by the quality of the content, not the other way around. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:52, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
@Redrose64:, with all of those exceptions, it seems misleading to even mention speedy deletion in the assessment table. On the other hand, it hasn't been a frequent source of confusion or contention so far, and so it really isn't a problem that needs to be solved. Thanks, Schazjmd (talk) 15:08, 19 February 2022 (UTC)