Template:Did you know nominations/Tom Loftin Johnson (artist)
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 18:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Tom Loftin Johnson (artist) edit
... that Tom Loftin Johnson used 35 dozen eggs to create an artwork at West Point?
- Comment: Yes I know its a mural... I'm hoping that people will click to find out
Created/expanded by Victuallers (talk). Self nom at 12:24, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
- reviewed Human Rights Act 2003 Victuallers (talk) 22:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Age, length, referencing all OK. However, I am confused whether this person is alive or dead. The article seems incomplete without that information. I would also like to suggest this alt. Those of us who know nothing about painting will be intrigued:- ALT1:
... that Tom Loftin Johnson used 35 dozen fresh eggs to paint a mural at West Point?Yoninah (talk) 01:38, 29 December 2011 (Yoninah (talk) 01:38, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have no reliable source for his death date although the 2006 ref talks of him dying without getting his plaque and this is mentioned, I can't say I'm very keen on the alt hook as I think it tells you everything apart from the fact that one type of mural paint is made from eggs. (I had in fact made a comment above to underline that point). Actually the hook is intended to be intriguing and incomplete. Victuallers (talk) 10:58, 29 December 2011 (UTC) My alt alt below Victuallers (talk) 13:17, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- ALT2:
... that Major T. Loftin Johnson used 35 dozen fresh eggs to create Fifteen Decisive Battles at West Point?
- I'm fine with ALT2, but before we go ahead, I'm just wondering why you didn't choose the more arresting detail about American Pietà? How about:
- ALT3: ... that Tom Loftin Johnson won a 1941 prize for his American Pietà, which substitutes an African American mother for the Virgin Mary and the black victim of a lynching for Jesus? Yoninah (talk) 19:53, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I'm happy with Alt3... I didnt use it as I didnt have a pic but Ive added one now. Thx for your helpVictuallers (talk) 20:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Where's the image? I wasn't sure if the one in the article was public domain or not. Frankly, I think this hook would work better as the last hook in the set, without a picture, as long as readers know what the Pietà is. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree Alt 3! - if a bit long?. The only "hookish" picture we have is "fair use only" so we cannot use it here, but I have added it to the article. The other two pictures wouldn't attract readers but the last DYK position might. I'd say only 1 in 10 people know what a Pieta is (I didn't) - but I think the mention of replacing the Virgin Mary and Jesus is intriguing enough. Thanks for your help with hook and article. I've added Daniel, Mandarax and yourself as you all do "a bit here and a bit there" and its all appreciated. I also think that this article is a good example of a) another half finished article from Victuallers that had to be fixed or b) a great piece of collaboration which has created something better than I could have created alone without days of effort.... I'm hoping you agree that its B as that is what I enjoy being part of here (not the guilty wrist slapping that we sometimes punish ourselves with). Thanks again Victuallers (talk) 12:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. Where's the image? I wasn't sure if the one in the article was public domain or not. Frankly, I think this hook would work better as the last hook in the set, without a picture, as long as readers know what the Pietà is. Yoninah (talk) 21:03, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
