Template:Did you know nominations/John W. Brady

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 23:23, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

John W. Brady edit

John W. Brady
John W. Brady
  • ... that when Texas judge John W. Brady (pictured) heard his sentence for murdering his mistress, he cried out "I didn’t do it; I didn’t do it. I do not deserve that sentence"? Source: tenth paragraph of this article.

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 13:10, 2 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Full review is to follow, but I can see some inconsistencies in the article: first, the article says he was born in either 1869 or 1870, but the lede and infobox only acknowledge 1869. Second, the article uses DMY throughout, but the infobox uses MDY. Please change the MDY dates in the infobox to DMY for consistency. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:12, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:35, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

  • Coming to promote this, I found myself unhappy with the hook wording. Surely he was responding to the verdict and not the sentence, which seems to have been amazingly lenient? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Cwmhiraeth, I agree that the sentence seems amazingly lenient as well, but that's with the benefit of 21st-century sensibilities and legal norms. Brady was cast as something of a tragic hero at the trial---an unparalleled legal mind brought down by the bottle and a succubus---and his legal team was aiming for an outright acquittal, not a conviction for a lesser offense. Many of the legal arguments, such as insanity due to intoxication, would likely not be allowed today, and many of the insinuations, such as that his mistress was a loose woman who had it coming, would likely not be accepted. I can flush out the article more if you like---the trials were covered extensively, and there's much that can be added---but at the end of the day, attempting to find rationality in a statement made by a guy who killed his mistress because she was sleeping with someone else may be a bit of a futile task. --Usernameunique (talk) 19:06, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
As you seem sure that he was disappointed at the sentence and not (or perhaps as well as) the verdict, then the hook is satisfactory. His words certainly imply that. I will replace the tick and someone else can promote the hook. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)