Talk:What If...? (TV series)

Splitting to season articles

When do we want to do this, if at all? Given the whole first episode of season 2 was screened at SDCC, and knowing the Gamora episode that was planned for season 1 is also in season 2, it more than passes WP:NTV to have season articles. Thought we might not necessarily need them yet. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 20:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I don't think we are far off, especially with the third season coming down the pipeline as well. I think it would be good to make the split before we start thinking about being ready for GAs (which I'm hoping won't be too far off for the early Phase Four projects). - adamstom97 (talk) 21:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Wouldn't it be wiser to wait until season 2 has aired before nominating this for GA status? InfiniteNexus (talk) 01:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Season 2 will probably air by the time it's time to think about the series and its episodes for GA noms anyway if we mostly go by release order of the movies and series -- Zoo (talk) 01:49, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Well, there isn't technically a rule that we have to go in order of release date. But I do think we should hold off on nominating Loki and What If...? before their second seasons air. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:02, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

I wasn't suggesting that we nominate this article for GA, I agree that we should hold off on that. I was thinking the first season article and the episode articles (same for Loki) in the near future. - adamstom97 (talk) 06:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

No yeah, we shouldn't be nominating this article after splits are made, or Loki at this time. It would just be the respective season 1 articles for both, plus episode articles from the first season. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 15:11, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

I think at the very least the season 1 draft is ready to be moved. Season 2 I feel could move too, but I don't know how season articles are handled with animation vs live action series. I know Loki's seasons were moved when season 2 began filming. -- Zoo (talk) 19:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

The equivalent for animation would be proof that actual animation work had begun, which we do have for S2 since an entire episode has already been shown. The question isn't are the season articles ready, it's whether this article should be split or not. Currently it is at the "Length alone does not justify division" stage per WP:SIZERULE, so we would need a good reason to go ahead with the split now. - adamstom97 (talk) 20:05, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Right. We can split, but I don't know if we should split yet. I think as we get closer to season 2's release, or it actually releasing, it will be in a better spot to justify the split. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 22:22, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes. I forgot about the size rule. So I do agree with waiting until closer to season 2 releasing. -- Zoo (talk) 23:14, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Time to split?

We aren't nearing a size limit where a split would be warranted, so I wanted other thoughts on if we should. If we start getting a lot of season 2 info, we could very easily make a split, it would just make this article very bare I think. The (not updated) current version of this article can be seen here. Drafts for season 1 and 2 also exist. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:33, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I know there is overall more info for Loki, but was the main article also pretty bare after the split? ZooBlazer 18:20, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

I think once we get more information on season 2 (maybe closer to release?) a split could work, though I wouldn't stand in the way of it being done now if that's what others want. I'm not too concerned with the main series article becoming potentially barren, as there should be more material to add over time. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:50, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I'm fine with splitting whenever. It would benefit the general audience who cone here to split before the season, but if there isn't enough info to split then, then we can wait until after the season airs. ZooBlazer 03:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

The drafts and my sandbox are up to date. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

It's not too bare bones, so I'm fine with splitting sooner than later, but if others would rather wait, that's fine with me as well. ZooBlazer 04:38, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree it's not that bare. It actually looks quite good to me. I'd be fine with splitting off real soon. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:10, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I can boldly go ahead with this. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:27, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Logline

Favre1fan93,
A logline is a one or two sentences summary of a story. I am not sure why you claimed the one sentence on the episode summary is not a logline. — YoungForever^(talk) 17:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

It's our own words, not an official press log line. The episode was screened to the public back at SDCC 2022 so per reports on the summary of the episode, a quick synopsis was made for that episode. The sources were included given it did not have a wide public release. So since it is a "released" episode, summary content is fair game, even if it is a single sentence or two. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:51, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Per {{Episode list}}, A short 100–200 word plot summary of the episode. — YoungForever^(talk) 19:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

That's a recommended range. Obviously, if the episode has already widely released, that is what one would strive for. But since it hasn't (as noted), but it was still described in the media from its public screening, the short summary that is there now with sourcing was added. This won't be the final one, and again, it's not a "logline" that was from a press release, that is not allowed because of WP:COPYVIO and WP:CLOSE issues. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 02:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

A {{efn}} or a {{More plot}} should be use. There is no context saying the episode was screened at SDCC 2022 on the article. — YoungForever^(talk) 03:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

More plot and a hidden note further explaining added here. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 04:32, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

References

Jeffrey Wright not "cast"?

I notice that, at least for the season 1 episodes, Jeffrey Wright isn't listed in the "Cast" section of the the infoboxes?

Should he be? I mean, he's in every episode, more than in some others. 2A00:23C6:761C:AF01:9D16:FFFA:1216:E1FB (talk) 15:27, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Per {{Infobox television episode}}, the cast parameter is for guest stars of the episodes, not the main cast; Wright is the main cast as he is the only constant of this anthology series. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 17:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)