Talk:Waverly Hills Sanatorium

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Due to unsourced and poorly sourced material, I went ahead and blew up parts of this article. This was long overdue as the article had become an embarrassment. It has been given too many chances for the content to improve, and it hasn't, so a partial start-over is necessary. If any material is added back, it needs to be backed up by reliable secondary sources. Also, any content I didn't TNT could still use some additional sources. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 21:57, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

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Original History: The old Waverly building was always under construction because of its old nature, construction to build a five- story wooden building began on March 24, 1924 <World>.

Woodhaven Medical Services: "The building was reopened in 1962 as Woodhaven Geriatric Center, a nursing home primarily treating aging patients with various stages of dementia and mobility limits, as well as the severely mentally handicapped. Woodhaven was closed by the state in 1982 allegedly due to patient neglect." News spread that unwilling experiments concerning electric shock treatment for non- existing conditions. It should be added that this center was "understaffed and overcrowded." Citation: World, Ghostly. “Waverly Hills Sanatorium.” Ghostly World™, 8 July 2018, ghostlyworld.org/2012/09/16/waverly-hills-sanatorium/.

The Death Tunnel: The Death Tunnel was an entrance and exit for the workers of the sanatorium. It was built on the first floor with the rest of the building. The corridor is 500 feet to the bottom of the hill and has a set of stairs on one side, which were the stairs used for the workers. On the other side, there was a cart that moved up and down the stair case which transported supplies and other necessities.

Since antibiotics did not exist in the time that the sanatorium was active, other forms of aid were used to cure the TB patients. For example, heat lamps, fresh air, and positive talk and reassurance helped to keep patients alive, since the death rate of a TB patient at the time was one death per day. However, at the peak of the disease the site of the dead being carried away through the tunnel lowered the patient morale, increasing the number of deaths per day. Therefore, the sanatorium tried transporting the dead bodies as secretively as possible to increase the morale and lower the death rates. The doctors and workers of this time also believed that this would help to lower the disease's spreading rate <World>.

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Waverly Hills Today: The old sanatorium is owned today by private investors who open the historic building up to curious overnight guests and "ghost" tours. The tours inform guests of the building's origin and history.

Rewording...

"The land that is known today as 'Waverly Hill' was purchased by Major Thomas H. Hays in 1883 as the Hays' family home."

Deleting...

I also believe you should get rid of some of the sections towards the end of the article (Statue and Prison) because they distract from the article and are irrelevant to its context.

Pictures...

Adding more pictures of Waverly Hills to the article could help immensely! I see there is a picture of Rio de Janeiro and I don't believe that is appropriate for the article. Sansontm (talk) 05:50, 24 October 2018 (UTC) Sansontm (talk) 05:50, 26 October 2018 (UTC)sansontm

"ghostlyworld.org" is a WP:FRINGE website, and on Wikipedia it is not considered a WP:RS for facts about the subject. Additionally, the link appears to be a copy of an old version of this WP article, so we cannot WP:BACKWARDSCOPY. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:06, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

LuckyLouie: This website has lots of information regarding original information on the Sanatorium. I am from Louisville, Kentucky and have grown up going to the sanatorium myself and learning these facts. Therefore, this website is reliable and states lots of facts about background info on Waverly Hills Sanatorium. I am choosing to neglect information on "ghostly" stories, even though that happens to be the title of the website. Sansontm (talk) 17:07, 2 November 2018 (UTC)sansontm

"Ghostly World" is clearly WP:FRINGE, and should not be considered a reliable source. If you think otherwise, try the reliable sources noticeboard. --tronvillain (talk) 21:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

@Sansontm, "Ghostly World" is obviously a WP:FRINGE source with a WP:SENSATIONAL spin on the subject; playing up the supposed "patient abuse" angle, promoting the idea of a ghoulish "death tunnel", and stating as "fact" that videos show ghosts of these unhappy souls haunt Waverly. WP requires non-sensational reliable sources. If you are in Louisville you may be able to visit the city main library reference desk and access records and background history on Waverly Hills compiled by a historical society or other reliable source. - LuckyLouie (talk) 22:13, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

The National Register of Historic Places (from the US Park Service) has a very interesting page that you might find useful. Hammona (talk) 19:40, 5 November 2018 (UTC)

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Legal issues

We should probably mention the ongoing legal issues between the Mattinglys and the Waverly Hills Historical Society. While the Mattinglys still technically own the site, they have been evicted and no longer have any part in running the operation. Lard Almighty (talk) 09:43, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Tunnel

The Tunnel section of this article seems horribly misplaced, possibly a well meaning cleanup gone awry. But it is in the middle of the expansion section, and after the 90s part of that section. Wasn't the tunnel there from the get-go of the main 5 story building? The article reads that way - that it was built with the first floor. Sabalon (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Trashy paranormal TV shows and ghost hunter sites (not WP:RS by the way) publicized the tunnel as having a supposedly sinister purpose, and subsequently haunted and spooky. So at one point, the article was so bloated by fanboys adding this junk, that the tunnel ended up being mentioned in three or four places in the article. It only needs one mention. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:27, 31 October 2023 (UTC)