Talk:Victor Papanek

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Jooojay in topic Important work

Important items to add edit

Victor Papanek has served as head of the Department of Product Design at North Carolina State College's School of Design (http://d.lib.ncsu.edu/collections/catalog/0003526). What is Papanek's middle name? I have not found it in the "Victor J. Papanek Foundation" website or other places. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prof.Doc.Pro.Do.CE.of.J (talkcontribs) 02:21, 19 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Lead obsessed with iconoclastism edit

The lead is so preoccupied with framing Victor as an iconoclast, it barely notes his accomplishments. — MaxEnt 20:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

Discrepancies edit

I have noticed there is a lot of published discrepancies about Victor Papanek - including his year of birth (1923 vs 1927), his date of immigration into the United States (1932 vs 1939), and dates for his education and degrees. I am adding a note here so that we can hopefully document the process of deciding these details and any related citations. Jooojay (talk) 03:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Birth 1927: [1][2]
  • Birth 1923: [3][4][5][6]
  • Immigration to US in 1932: [7]
  • Immigration to US in 1939: [8][9][10]
  • Graduated from Cooper Union in 1948 (degrees in architecture and industrial design): [11]
Additional discrepancies include the day of birth - today it was changed to the 22nd, based on wikidata and a citation.[12] Please use this space to discuss further. Jooojay (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. ^ "Victor Papanek". Industrial Designers Society of America - IDSA. 2010-01-16. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  2. ^ Rawsthorn, Alice (2011-05-15). "Victor Papanek: An Early Champion of Good Sense". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  3. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  4. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design -". World-Architects. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  5. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design Opens at Vitra Design Museum". 24700 CalArts. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  6. ^ "Victor J. Papanek im Vitra Design Museum Weil am Rhein". www.architekturzeitung.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  7. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  8. ^ Rawsthorn, Alice (2011-05-15). "Victor Papanek: An Early Champion of Good Sense". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  9. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design -". World-Architects. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  10. ^ "Victor Papanek: The Politics of Design Opens at Vitra Design Museum". 24700 CalArts. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  11. ^ "Victor Papanek - Announcements - e-flux". www.e-flux.com. Retrieved 2018-12-06.
  12. ^ "Viktor Papanek". en.isabart.org. Retrieved 2020-07-03.

Important work edit

The lengthy "Important work" section is poorly written and is the writer's view of Papanek's views - all without any substantiation or citation. It adds nothing to the factual record, and nothing of value to the Wikipedia article. I suggest that it be deleted. Designergene (talk) 17:28, 8 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I agree, it has been tagged since August 2020 for clean up - it was removed today. Jooojay (talk) 13:58, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Wow! Many thanks for all the great new work editing this article. Improved so much. My only quibble - whether the 'Personal life' section is really of any relevance. Designergene (talk) 17:24, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Designergene:, Hello! Thank you for your positive words. Yes, it's pretty standard to have a "personal life section" in Wikipedia bio articles. Most notable people are shaped by their families in some way, and it has been published in many books about Papanek - everything here falls within WP:RS. Jooojay (talk) 18:00, 9 March 2021 (UTC)Reply