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Postal Service may close non-distribution centers?Edit

Why?! The United States Postal Service and the Postmaster General Patrick R. Donahoe has stated the agency will shutdown processing and main non-distribution centers to facility operations in main zip code distribution centers in order of binding the unity of the United States Postal Service by the form of a facilitated distribution center for each state due to first-class mail, which has dropped 25 percent since 2006(reports from the USPS Anaylses). The initiative will result in the shutdown for the first-class mail now delivered overnight would take two to three days to arrive regardless of origin or destination. The hospitals, museums , schools, churches, and other groups that use bulk mail could see an increase in their rates, while others might see a decrease in bulk mail rates, thus a decrease in many employed classes of the United States Postal Service and to dis-facilitate and lower the values for the families of the majority of employees in the service of non-distribution centers. There is no target date for the move, but the Postal Service will honor a May 15 moratorium on closures based on its agreement with the United States Congress. The Congress has already started this problem and now someone would think they would pay the amount of debt from the money left over from the Iraqi and Afghan war, which may be a possible solution. The moratorium is intended to give Congress time to come up with an alternative plan to stop the huge financial losses the Postal Service has been experiencing because of reductions in the amount of first-class mail over the years. Now there is a proposal about a new bill to renew an act to discontinue the function of a new law to distransfer of non-distribution centers to a maintained distribution center, to re-allow this new act is to maintain an independent and operated Postal Service agency as a basic and fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the United States to ensure the rights and regulations of mail transportation and United States Postal facilities in services for all distribution zip code centers and non-distribution zip-code centers in the United States. I am surprised this information is not on the article. --74.84.112.56 (talk) 19:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Because Wikipedia is WP:NOT a WP:CRYSTAL BALL nor a WP:NOTNEWSPAPER. When this happens, if ever, it can be added if it add some encyclopaedic value to the article. ww2censor (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Violence as 'going postal'Edit

I think there was an episode in Married, with Children, where Al Bundy and his friends went to D.C. and witnessed a shooting involving an armed mailman. Maybe someone could add this to the section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.54.14.206 (talk) 15:04, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Need for Major RevisionsEdit

  • Article is really long with lots of detailed information not necessary for a general overview of post office.
  • Red arrows in the infobox convey the political message that the post office is 'losing money' -- this idea is actually controversial and contested, and has been identified as part of some really targeted political propaganda.
  • Anyone think there should be a separate page for post office closures controversy? It's a big union issue, some say it violates the constitution; concretely could be one of the biggest changes in history for this institution.
  • Substantial things like budget, delivery, & employment need more focus -- relative to overly technical 'choices' section
  • Postal unions probably deserve more coverage

I'm interested in hearing from any/all active editors—particularly interested in hearing about the february collb. Thanks. Groupuscule (talk) 14:09, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Also: USPS is not a "company"! The use of the company infobox is a political decision that, frankly, seems to anticipate that the whole government will be handed over to the private sector. But today, USPS is still a government agency mandated by the constitution. You don't see a company infobox with little red "losing money" arrows for the military or the for the EPA! Groupuscule (talk) 04:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

I disagree that the article is too long. I also disagree that the post office is not losing money---otherwise, the USPS wouldn't be trying to close a huge number of facilities and terminate Saturday service. But I do agree that the current infobox is improper because USPS is actually a government agency. --Coolcaesar (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
OK, about to change the infobox. Coolcaeser, that's exactly what I used to think. I know the talk page is not the place to have a big political discussion, but there are politics involved in the facts here. The USPS actually is a very profitable government agency, but has been forced to put aside huge amounts of money each year for a retirement fund extending 70 years into the future. This is a requirement that no other agency, public or private, has to comply with. If USPS didn't have to put money into this fund, it would be turning a profit—it is actually profitable, which is why corporate interests want to privatize it! Check out: Democracy Now, Salon. These are generally 'left-leaning' sources, and we obviously need to do our own work and make up our own minds. But it's a really important point to be aware of. Please let me know what you think—I'm interested in challenging my own beliefs on this position. I'll go ahead and change the infobox. Groupuscule (talk) 20:31, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

distinction between USPO and USPSEdit

No distinction is being made between the United states Post Office and the United States Postal Service -- two distinctly different separate and dissimilasr agencies that did not share a historical period. I propose to break out all USPS and USPO materials into separate articles. Comments? 76.91.14.191 (talk) 02:38, 9 February 2013 (UTC) (User:Pedant , not logged in)

Cite notesEdit

I just noticed that citation number 50 (https://www.usps.com/strategicplanning/cs08/chpt1_pg5.htm) comes back with a 404 error. This citation should be removed.

Citation number 61 (https://www.usps.com/financials/) is also a 404

Citation number 173 should be: (http://faq.usps.com/adaptivedesktop/faq.jsp?ef=USPSFAQ&type=Global&iid=35a36559-fb39-44a9-851e-4665246a5166&selectedTitle=Is%20there%20Mail%20Service%) Retrieved December 10, 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.98.215.104 (talk) 23:12, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You need to add USPS First-Class package & Priority MailEdit

Idk where those 2 are. And Parcel post is discontinued and repleaced by Standard Post & Parcel Select

68.238.254.167 (talk) 13:08, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Service level guaranteesEdit

It might be good to add a section describing the guarantees, if any, that are provided by the USPS.

usps.com vs usps.govEdit

Not sure how important the distinction between .com and .gov is, but...

The official website of the United States Postal Service is usps.com

and Internet Explorer redirects usps.gov to a search engine's search results for usps.gov

however, the FAQs page of usps.com answer for "How Much Does First-Class Mail® Cost?" includes a link to a Postage Price Calculator at http://postcalc.usps.gov/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.85.62.229 (talkcontribs) 72.85.62.229

Not for me, usps.gov redirects to usps.com and the FAQ question remains at http://postcalc.usps.com. It must just be a Mircosoft-centric quirk. ww2censor (talk) 18:42, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
The Postal Service considers usps.com its commercial domain, and usps.gov its internal domain. Basically, usps.com is for customers, usps.gov is for employees and policy pages. The domain is interchangeable for some apps. Mamyles (talk) 14:11, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Potential NPPOV wording problem?Edit

This section's text seems a little loaded in this excerpt:

The USPIS has the power to enforce the USPS monopoly by conducting search and seizure raids on entities they suspect of sending non-urgent mail through overnight delivery competitors. According to the American Enterprise Institute, a private conservative think tank, the USPIS raided Equifax offices in 1993 to ascertain if the mail they were sending through Federal Express was truly "extremely urgent." It was found that the mail was not, and Equifax was fined $30,000.

My area of particular concern was "enforce the USPS monopoly". Particularly concerned at calling it "the" monopoly. It might be worth while checking the sources for reliability as well.

Puppier (talk) 02:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Statistics overloadEdit

This article looks like a huge jumble of statistics. There are literally hundreds of numbers strewn throughout the text, and well over half of them are years outdated. I've tried to do some updating of essential statistics, but there are still many that seem unnecessary. Do we really need numbers like how much it costs to deliver per point, cost to mail various letters, maximum size/weight of letters, or how many employees were lost in 2001? Mamyles (talk) 14:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

USPS is actually a government corporationEdit

I just want to throw it out there that the USPS is not actually an independent agency, but is apparently a government corporation. This is per my textbook American Government: Your Voice, Your Future by Matthew R. Kerbel, 5th Edition. 75.111.71.113 (talk) 04:56, 22 July 2015 (UTC)Alex 07/21/2015

Unfortunately that is not quite accurate. Even a very recent official SEC document (page 15) describes it as: “independent establishment of the executive branch of the Government of the United States which is NOT a government corporation. Also check out the Postal Reorganization Act in 1971" as well as the fourth paragraph of this webpage. ww2censor (talk) 09:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, not all sources are always correct. Many other book sources correctly state that the USPS is an independent agency, such as page 218 of Litigation with the Federal Government by Gregory C Sisk. Mamyles (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

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AdvertisementsEdit

It would be nice to have the ads in the page removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by HunterRoe (talkcontribs) 16:23, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

@HunterRoe: What content, specifically, are you referring to? Mamyles (talk) 16:27, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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Remote Encoding CentersEdit

As of 2013, the Wichita, KS REC was closed, making the Salt Lake City, UT center the last REC still open in the country. 2601:681:4D04:2C91:70F1:59BE:49A:75BF (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

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Definition of "Part Use"Edit

At the end of the third paragraph, the last sentence states that "The USPS has exclusive access to letter boxes marked 'U.S. Mail' and personal letterboxes in the United States, but still competes against private package delivery services, such as the United Parcel Service (UPS) and has part use with FedEx Express." What does it mean to "have part use," in this context? Thanks, Tony Tan · talk 04:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2017 March 18#File:United States Postal Service Logo.svgEdit

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Mailbox keyEdit

I lost my mailbox key Tammy Krivac (talk) 19:26, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Merge with United States Post Office DepartmentEdit

The USPS article, as it currently stands, describes the history of the post office system in the US from its inception, much of it being about the former United States Post Office Department. The USPOD article is very brief, and it just has an infobox and four paragraphs. Needforspeed888 (talk) 02:55, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

  • Oppose: the two are entirely different entities, one being a government department and the other an independent agency. It is true the POD article could do with expansion. Indeed much of the USPS history section could be moved there because that is the more appropriate place and USPS does not require such a detailed history section, especially as it less than 50 years old. That section could easily be reduced significantly, probably to 3 or 4 paragraphs. ww2censor (talk) 09:56, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - As per ww2censor above, the two cannot be compared directly; one is a U.S. Cabinet department and the other its own entity. I also agree that parts of the History section could possibly be seperated to be put in the United States Post Office Department article. Gazamp (talk) 16:59, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose - The Post Service Department was a cabinet level department, completely separate from the current USPS, the way I see it, for historical purposes, they should remain separate.--Navarre0107 (talk) 01:19, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose the merger of the two articles. Each phase US Mail delivery is quite different, with different laws in force. —Prairieplant (talk) 08:58, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose ww2censor hit the nail on the head. Buffs (talk) 16:15, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per ww2censor. The movement of the material from this article to the P.O. Dept. article is appropriate and a reasonable solution. oknazevad (talk) 03:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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Where is the history?Edit

There is only one paragraph of history. Why not a complete history? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.79.157.131 (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

USPS was only formed in 1971. So, by way of introduction, there is a one paragraph précis because it has no substantial history but did you miss the text immediately under the header? "Further information: United States Post Office Department" because that's where there is a detailed history pre-1971. ww2censor (talk) 15:39, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
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