Talk:The Hunger Games (film)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Hunger Games (film)/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Kncny11 (talk · contribs) 19:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Alright, time to refresh myself on this film series! The last GAN was six years ago, so I'm going to assume that the issues there have been more than addressed and look at this film fresh. As always, a  Working tag means that I haven't finished looking at that part of the article yet, but feel free to start making changes as soon as you see them! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 19:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Good Article review progress box Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Infobox and lede

• The release dates and gross numbers don't need citations in the lede as long as they appear in the body

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 13:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thanks to films like Endgame coming out, ref [9] no longer shows that THG had the third-largest opening weekend gross at the time of its release. Fortunately, this NYT article says it.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Shorten parentheticals to last name, as Lawrence and Hutcherson were already introduced

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Principal photography began in May 2011 and ended that September

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Move comma from after "March 21, 2012" to after "in some European countries"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Japanese release is never mentioned in the body

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:08, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Plot

• This section is sitting at 709 words, just over the 400-700 range recommended by MOS:FILMPLOT. Find a few areas to trim.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Pipe Panem to Fictional world of The Hunger Games.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "Careers"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "eleven" → "11" per MOS:NUMBERS

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "dead from eating what she assumed were edible berries from watching Peeta." → "poisoned to death by the nightlock she collected after watching Peeta." (or something of that sort, just to decrease the double "from")

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• {{snd}} around "the last three survivors" per MOS:DASH

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• The last two paragraphs both begin with "Crane then", which visually looks repetitive.

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:21, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Cast

• Not necessary to have citations for the cast list unless there's a character description attached

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• With the way that List of The Hunger Games characters has been restructured, only Katniss, Peeta, Gale, Haymitch, Prim, and Snow need to be linked.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Period after "Mrs." in "Mrs. Everdeen"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:13, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Production

• Pipe distribution rights to film distribution

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sentence structure in the first sentence is confusing atm, as it implies Color Force reportedly bought the rights for $200,000, but the Newsweek citation [27] says Lionsgate spent the money.

Removed some citations earlier and I couldn't find one from Newsweek. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Pipe Alli Shearmur to Allison Shearmur

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• [29] doesn't show anything about the budget being "one of the largest ever"

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL Billy Ray (screenwriter) the first time he's mentioned in the body

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Same with Gary Ross

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:27, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Casting

• strike "coveted" in role, for neutrality

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Lawrence, a fan of the books, took three days to accept the role, initially intimidated by the size of the production." → "Lawrence, a fan of the books, was originally intimidated by the size of the production, and took three days to accept the role."

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Commas around "other than Hutcherson"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Write his full name out in its first appearance

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "who was later cast as Cato" needs a citation

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "The following month"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Need a reference for "Both got the role at the time they were promoting Captain America: The First Avenger"

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• It's also unclear who 'both' refers to, as three names are mentioned in the preceding sentence

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:29, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Filming

• List of possible directing candidates needs a citation (EW source doesn't mention them)

 Done Added a source. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL underwriting

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Commas around "as part of the underwriting process"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "dyed her naturally blonde hair"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Split sentence after "yoga", make separate sentence about her injury.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Citation needed for that training injury

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• The sentence about Hutcherson and Hemsworth dying their hair should be placed next to Lawrence dyeing hers, rather than in the middle of a paragraph about her training process

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Delink Hutcherson and Hemsworth, who were already mentioned above

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL principal photography

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "digital due (in part) to the" → "digital, due in part to the"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL The New York Times

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL DuPont State Forest in the body as well as in the thumbnail

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "other scenes also took place and was filmed" → "other scenes were filmed"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• The Shelby/Charlotte/Asheville sentence needs a citation

 Done Added sources. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "production team found" → "production team used", to reduce repetition of "found" and reduce implication that they somehow discovered the town

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "looked at a lot of photographs"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "the 1950s in the search of a very American feel." → "the 1950s, in search of an "American" feel."

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• District should be capitalized

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "every character"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "differentiate strongly" → "strongly differentiate"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Missing period before [61]

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Music

• Safe & Sound only needs to be linked once, when it appears in the first sentence

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Music video release date needs a citation.

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Citation [64] should only appear once, at the end of the sentence.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• The Daily Princetonian is a student paper and not the best source. Hollywood Reporter has the same information.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL the first instance of score to Film score

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL leitmotif

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Drop the "important and signature" descriptors, which are non-neutral and do not appear in the cited sources

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Arcade Fire's Panem national anthem" → "The resulting piece"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Strong reviews" is followed only by one review

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL Star Wars and Big Brother (Nineteen Eighty-Four)

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "a rather obscure" → "an obscure"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Name the track as "Sediment"

 Question: Could you elaborate? Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Move the citation to the end of the paragraph

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Critical reception

• "Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an "A" grade."

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL The Hollywood Reporter

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Mention in first sentence of second paragraph that it was compared to Harry Potter and Twilight, as many of the reviews in this para talk about that

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Pipe Time to Time (magazine)

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Italics and quotes around The Charlotte Observer

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Box office

• Put this above "critical reception"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "US & Canada" → "United States and Canada"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• The Box Office Mojo stats don't suggest that it made the "largest worldwide opening weekend for a film not released during the summer or the holiday period", because the non-archived version has several films above that, and the archived version doesn't specify release dates.

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• For that matter, many of the records need to specify "at the time of its release" or "as of", as Black Panther (Feb. 2018), Beauty and the Beast (Mar. 2017), and BvS (Mar. 2016) have since overtaken that.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Mysterious space in the third paragraph with "On its first weekend"

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Drop the "With regard to ticket sales", as the phrase is mentioned later in the sentence

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "On Fandango alone"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "advance ticket seller ever"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "according to Fandango"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:59, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Themes

• Pipe feminist to feminism

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Manohla Dargis of The New York Times"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL Huffington Post

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• comma after "published in the Star Tribune"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• comma before "while the stories contain no actual religion"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 20:05, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Battle Royale and other precedents

• Change first sentence to "Several critics compared The Hunger Games unfavourably to ...", and include specific quotes.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "The Lottery" is mentioned in the second para but formally introduced in the third

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "by Shirley Jackson"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL The Atlantic

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:37, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Controversies

• This section is a bit long and could probably be split into subsections on race/ethnicity, weight and body image, and violence

 Question: Got any ideas for the subsection titles and where they should go? Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Italicize Jezebel

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "for The New York Times"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Commas around "in certain scenes"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Comma after "Slate states that"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "Anderson concludes that complaints"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Accolades

• This section is empty except for a {{main}} link
• Any particularly significant accolades should go here with a citation, even if there's a separate page (see Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, a recent GA). Any award mentioned in the lede is probably a good choice to go here.

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Home media

• "and Blu-ray Disc on August 18, 2012"

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "and in the rest of Europe on September 3, 2012" needs a citation

 Done Removed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Amazon isn't the best source, but the DVD extras are mentioned in this EW article

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Refs [172] and [173] (Three weeks after the release...) are both incomplete

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• "With 10,336,637 units sold [by the end of the year?]..."

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Pipe 4K UHD to 4K resolution

 Done Linked to Ultra HD Blu-ray. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Italicize Hunter Games series

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:30, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Sequels

• Four citations for Lawrence replacing Ross seems excessive

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:00, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

References

• [55] (Forbes) is missing the work in the citation

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Box Office Mojo is sometimes referred to as such, sometimes as Boxofficemojo.com

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Change the work on [44] from New York to Vulture

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Include "url-access=subscription" on [32] (LA Times), [50] (WSJ), [62] (WSJ), [127] (WSJ), [151] (WSJ)

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Include "url-access=limited" on [34] (NYT), [44] (Vulture), [47] (NYT), [54] (NYT), [118] (NYT), [130] (NYT), [136] (NYT), [138] (NYT), [141] (Atlantic), and [156] (NYT)

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Replace "Azdailysun.com" in [146] with Arizona Daily Sun and change it from publisher to work

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• WL New York Daily News in [57] and remove the publisher

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• In [84], change Tnr.com from publisher to work and make it The New Republic

 Done Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

• Something in [172] is broken

 Fixed Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

General comments

• Some scattered vandalism, but no edit warring and overall mostly stable.
• Photos are CC or free use and all relevant to the article.
• Earwig has been giving me grief in terms of its loading time, but it looks like the main offenders are mirror sites, and the iffy % matches are due to direct quotes.

Final comments and verdict

Sorry this took a few days to finish up! I had some personal stuff come up. Anyway, I'm going to put this article  On hold. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions, or if anything comes up! Kncny11 ^(shoot) 17:19, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kncny11: I have added comments for most of your suggestions. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: In which I am super not on top of things -- for "Sediment", all I meant was that the Laurie Spiegel track is called "Sediment". As for the controversies section, I see three distinct categories as potential subheads: "Race and ethnicity", "Appearance (or casting) of Lawrence", and "Violence". Kncny11 ^(shoot) 21:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Kncny11: Both suggestions have now been addressed. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:05, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Some Dude From North Carolina: Hell yeah! Passing now. :) Kncny11 ^(shoot) 21:08, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

The Minotaur

The story of the Hunger Games is a direct reference to the Ancient Greek myth of the Minotaur. This fact has not been previously mentioned (apparently) in this article, but I have now made a footnote indicating it. Did I overstep my bounds? Is there a reason this was not mentioned before? (or is this just more American hubris, see above). A loose necktie (talk) 06:30, 18 April 2021 (UTC)