Talk:The Bold Type/GA1
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Reviewer: Kingsif (talk · contribs) 01:43, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Hey, I'll take this up, comments should be added soon. Kingsif (talk) 01:43, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Style edit
- This may be my interpretation of the MOS, but I think you might want some refs at the end of the lead if it's going to name publications specifically.
- Note: very fond of the hatnote.
- In the lead, "who also executive produces the series" may read better as "who also serves as executive producer on the series".
- The lead doesn't need to contain a full principal and secondary cast list. That's what the cast list (and infobox) is for. The main three and Melora Hardin should do fine.
- Lead a good length.
- Tweaked Premise section a little, but otherwise good.
- Some refs for the episode table (also see note in Coverage) could be added.
- Question: What articles would you suggest I cite in the episode table? The reason I'm asking is all the refs in the List of The Bold Type episodes are located in the sections that follow the table. KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Development section good; writing is a little plain but not bad. It suffices, but could be improved with some creative ways to connect the different statements.
- In the Casting section, "quietly tough and confident" seems like it's a quote from somewhere; if so, it should be in quotation marks.
- As does the description of Lauren Park.
- There's actually some odd phrasing in this section, perhaps a bit of a rewrite is needed to make it more natural and less repetitive? If you want pointers, I'm happy to suggest tweaks.
- Broadcast section is even more short, repetitive declarative sentences. While correct, it's lacking on the 'well-written' front.
- Describing reviews by saying "X says: long quote" is poor style. The Rotten Tomatoes parts come under this, and though some of the main reviews have longer intros, the quotes could still be better incorporated, notably, the paragraph chunk from Matt Zoller Seitz.
- Done. I really tried to incorporate all of the quotes into the context of the general points; the only two comments that stand formatted as "X says: long quote" are both of Seitz's comments. I thought that the first comment was so meticulously written and impossible to break down into chunks, especially since it was only a sentence–albeit a long one; the other one I left as it was to maintain the formatting to make it seem as if the style is deliberate to match the author quoted. KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- More work on the review section in terms of structure.
- Needs work
Coverage edit
- Lead overview seems good
- Premise section could have some expansion in touch with the later seasons
- Would that provide too much of a summary of the series? I originally believed that the premise section was to explain the story's starting point and its background, but I could add more details regarding the second and third seasons if you believe that's appropriate! KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- @KyleJoan: Some series pages do give season summaries, but each series also starts from a new point, so it wouldn't be unusual to mention Kat's political leanings, Sutton's more public relationship, in terms of a new starting point and how they deal with it. Kingsif (talk) 16:07, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Would that provide too much of a summary of the series? I originally believed that the premise section was to explain the story's starting point and its background, but I could add more details regarding the second and third seasons if you believe that's appropriate! KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Cast/character summaries standard
- The episodes section is a link and a table; though there is a separate article dedicated to episode coverage, perhaps something could go here? Also, combining the short Broadcast section with this one might help.
- Casting section suffices - but is there no more information? Also, is there any information on how actors worked on characterization or on the conceptualization of characters? Other series GA's have these (Money Heist is a solid example) - if the info isn't in RS, it's fine, but the section can be improved :)
- Unfortunately, the articles I found regarding characterization only cover their approach after they had been cast (i.e., Katie Stevens, one of the leads, explained her approach to her storyline in the second season here.), which I believe is more appropriate for the cast section. However, since this information isn't available for most of the main cast members, I was afraid that adding it there would not adhere to WP:UNDUE. KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
- Is there no filming info for later seasons?
- If you're having a broadcast date for some countries, you should also have one for the other country that they're being compared against (i.e. when did it start showing in the UK?).
Needs attention
Illustration edit
- Appropriate for length
- Good use of tables
- Pass
Neutrality edit
- Good
- Pass
Stability edit
- Clean
- Pass
Verifiability edit
- Sources generally good, a few more on the less RS (but not at tabloid level) side, but suitable for what they're sourcing
- Just noticed part of the Premise section is unreferenced; as it's not plot, it needs one.
- The Australia-gets-episodes-the-same-day-as-US seems implausible, if just because of the massive (15 hour) time difference that would mean Australia could theoretically have them before they air in the US depending on the time of broadcast - are we sure that's what is meant?
Needs attention
Copyright edit
- Check good, some heavy quoting inflates it
- Free use image in article; fair use cover slate in infobox
- Pass
Overall edit
- on hold Certainly some areas to address, especially on writing style. Kingsif (talk) 04:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
- Comment: Hi there, Kingsif! I believe I made all of the changes you suggested, so if you'd like to take a look at it again at your convenience, I'd really appreciate it! I do have a question. You recently modified a sentence in the filming section into
Filming in New York was only done to get good exterior shots of some of the city's iconic locations, such as the Brooklyn Bridge and Central Park.
I was wondering whether it would acceptable to remove the wordgood
from this statement because I feel as if it holds a connotation that they've tried filming elsewhere and the footage turned out bad. Thanks again for taking the time to give this article your attention! KyleJoantalk 12:38, 28 October 2019 (UTC) - @KyleJoan: generally good, reviews could still use some work; if you want to discuss/work on some phrasings here, ping me! Kingsif (talk) 16:34, 28 October 2019 (UTC)