Talk:Teriyaki

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Why is the "soy" bar on this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.195.137.76 (talk) 18:35, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Soy sauce is the primary component of teriyaki sauce. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.11.36.165 (talk) 20:25, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

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Teriyaki not from Japan

My Japanese teacher told us that Teriyaki was not made from Japan, she said Teriyaki is made in America and if you to Japan you could find Teriyaki but it's not orgialnated from there. Is this true? Lf2074 (talk) 19:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I've worked as an English teacher for hundreds of Japanese people. They are bewildered when they visit the USA and an American attempts to offer "teriyaki" as a "Japanese food". Their universal reaction is "huh? what?". I strongly suspect that teriyaki is a non-Japanese invention that masquerades as a Japanese food. I suspect it has no native tradition whatsoever in Japan. That would explain why teriyaki is a foreign food to native Japanese people, and many of them have never even heard of it. Note the utter lack of credible sources (citations) in the wikipedia article. As it stands now, I think the article misleads the reader. The article might be improved by telling that teriyaki is a kind of false Japanese food. I wonder who invented it, when, where, and why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.133.243.117 (talk) 15:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I hope to shine light to the situation as someone fluent both in Japanese and English, and having lived in Japan for a long time. In a nutshell: to the Japanese, teriyaki (or rather, 照り焼き), is a cooking technique, whereas for Americans, it seems to be either a sauce or a dish.

In Japan, I never see shops advertising "teriyaki sauce" or "teriyaki flavour" – unless it's MacDonald's, Subway or some other American brand. But you can see dishes like buri no teriyaki (ブリの照り焼き), that is, teriyaki yellowtail in menus of Japanese-style restaurants such as Ootoya (大戸屋) or Yumean (夢庵). That's a dish named after the ingredient + cooking technique, but that's just one dish among others; it's hardly a genre of dishes you would talk about like "hey let's go and have some teriyaki", and neither it is a sauce you could flavour some unrelated dish with, like with "teriyaki burgers".

Loanwords changing meaning upon borrowing is a common incidence, and many other Japanese words share the same fate: their original meaning has changed after being borrowed. GolDDranks (talk) 15:10, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

This article states that American teriyaki was developed somewhere between 1920 and 1954 by Japanese-Americans in Hawai'i from the sauce used in a method (called teriyaki) of grilling marinaded fish. --69.166.47.133 (talk) 00:24, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia article is almost identical to the Japanese Wikipedia article: Japanese wikipedia article (translated by Google) I suppose the Japanese know their food. Unless the Japanese article was translated from the English article... -- megA (talk) 14:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Teriyaki (terr-yaki)was invented by Japanese-American cooks in Hawai'i. My family discoverd this when we lives there from 1955-1958. Mom always made Teriyaki bugers, with croutons in the ground beef, even on the mainland. They are better if marinated 24 hours.70.162.46.94 (talk) 00:17, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

You're spreading rumors. Get some facts or don't bother. Chinese cuisine has used teriyaki-like sauces for a long time. I believe Hosking points that out in his book. Kortoso (talk) 18:49, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Growing up in Hawaii, I have never heard that teriyaki originates from Hawaii. Teriyaki was created in Japan in the 17th century during the Edo period and is one of 3 major styles of cooking that came from that period, the other two being yakitori and sukiyaki. Teriyaki was created as a method of cooking fish, which is why you do not see chicken or beef teriyaki in Japan. The method of cooking chicken is Yakitori which means grilled bird and the method of cooking beef is called sukiyaki (derived from sukimi - yaki which means grilled thin sliced meat). Teriyaki sauce is also from Japan and the reason that you can not find teriyaki sauce in Japan is because that is not its proper name. The correct name for mixing soy sauce, sake and sugar is warishita. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.174.211 (talk • contribs) 14 September 2015 (UTC)

If "teriyaki", in authentic Japanese kanji or hiragana writing, occurs in authentic native Japanese literature of the 17th century (Western year reckoning), or in even earlier centuries, then it may stand a chance of being a native Japanese word representing a native food or cooking technique. But I strongly doubt that such probative evidence is to be found. More likely, teriyaki is originally a bogus Japanese food, which was adopted from Hawaii/USA during the post WW2 part of the 20th century, by some Japanese restaurants that wanted to humor their American customers by offering them the "American 'Japanese food'" which they requested. In what year did the word "teriyaki" first appear in Japanese literature or Japanese newspapers? The answer to that question provides the most probable time of its first appearance in Japan. Highly educated (Ph.D.) native speaking Japanese linguists have told me that "teriyaki" is not a native Japanese word nor food. Japanese has many words adopted ("borrowed") from other languages and adapted to Japanese phonology. E.g., Japanese "pan" meaning "bread" comes from the Portuguese form of the word. Adopting an American, faux Japanese word, "teriyaki", would be an easy, even if somewhat reluctant, thing for native speakers of Japanese to do, especially if it would tie in to increasing sales at your restaurant (by providing the bogus "Japanese food" that American customers [wrongly] expect to find in Japan). Japanese are much too kind, and too polite, in a business setting, to inform (American) customers that teriyaki is not Japanese food. So, the falsehood eventually and wrongfully attains the status of "truth". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:C442:A100:B04B:1E1:924F:9849 (talk) 14:36, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

From http://www.japaneseprofessor.com/lessons/beginning/japanese-words-for-food/ "Most meat-based dishes only originated in the last century or so, since consumption of meat was banned for most of Japanese written history." The words-for-food page of this japaneseprofessor dot com website does NOT include "teriyaki". It's VERY UNLIKELY that teriyaki originated in Japan in the 17th century, in spite of the claim made in the Wikipedia article with no supporting citation. Teriyaki being Japanese food is massively widespread ignorance in the USA. This myth should be exposed and busted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:C442:A100:B04B:1E1:924F:9849 (talk) 15:23, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Possible typo?

In the 4th paragraph, it says "The tare (タレ) is traditionally made by mixing and heating soy sauce and sake (or mirin) and sugar (or honring onions) (see tare)." I can't find anything about "honring onions" on the internet, and it's not mentioned in any other articles on Wikipedia. This sounds like a typo, but I'm not sure what it was supposed to say.

"Honring onions" is a portmanteau of "honey" and "spring onions", coined (inadvertently, I assume) when an editor removed a random chunk of that paragraph while removing two unrelated statements. A year ago. I've restored the missing content. - I'm Gonna Regret This Username (talk) 01:52, 17 October 2020 (UTC)