Talk:Street fundraising

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Hi Guys, I would love to see some insight on the yield of these collectors. It looks to me very low. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.193.218.101 (talk) 06:07, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Early commentEdit

"The aquisition of funds through face to face street donations has been shown to be the most cost effective method of fundraising for charities compared to costly (and often ineffective) television, radio and newspaper campaigns. By securing long term donations, charities are able to plan future campaigns in the knowledge that they have a guaranteed amount of money to work with. Street fundraisers also serve to raise awareness of small charities and highlight the importance of new campaigns in larger more well known organisations."

All very well, but surely a distinction needs to be drawn between street fundraisers who work on an entirely voluntary basis, and the professional "chuggers" who receive a wage and often commission for their efforts.

I don't know about other countries, but in the UK a "chugger" is paid a basic wage of around GBP8 - GBP10 per hour, which is well above the UK minimum wage, and above the average wage of many UK cities (particularly those in northern England). That alone should tell you why "chuggers" are reviled to the extent that they are - they're effectively sponging off the moral fibre of those less fortunate than themselves. --217.155.20.163 01:10, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Chuggers seem be backpacker careerists and are rather different to tin rattling volunteers on a high street. Hence they should be split as long as there are links to each separate page to enable comparisons to be made.

Volunteer fund-raisers and Chuggers are two very different animals and a clear distinction should be made between the two. Volunteer fund-raisers are usually older people who give their time for nothing. They normally have sealed collecting tins/buckets for cash donations. These type of volunteer fund raisers do not pro-actively pursue passers by.

Paid face-to-face street operators are usually young people (18-25) who pro-actively solicit ongoing direct debit contributions. They are usually employed at well above the minimum wage by commercial profit making agencies. These people don't usually have any affinity with charity they are ostensibly working for and are only doing it to make money for themselves. It is estimated that anywhere from £60 to £120 is paid to the agencies by the charities for each sign-up. (86.142.102.137 (talk) 11:50, 25 February 2011 (UTC))

The moveEdit

It was suggested that this article should be renamed chugger. The vote is shown below:

  • Oppose. Instead move to street fundraiser or something similar. "Charity mugger" is bad POV. "Chugger" is both bad POV and badly colloquial, derogatory even. We can keep various redirects, but lets try to aim for something vaguely NPOV in the article's actual title. Dragons flight July 8, 2005 01:31 (UTC)
    • I agree and have moved it there and organised the article. violet/riga (t) 20:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

SplitEdit

  • I suggest splitting off the "chugger" section entirely as it is perhaps a different thing from street fundraising. Perhaps make that segment into an article "Face to Face Fundraiser" (their official title) with redirect from "chugger" and "charity mugger". Stifle 23:39, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
Do you mean people who collect small cash donations as opposed to those who solicit monthly bank payments? Tim! (talk) 17:31, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
Someone collecting small cash donations is a street fundraiser. Someone soliciting monthly bank payments is a chugger. Apologies for the confusion. Stifle 00:37, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Street fundraisersEdit

Most Streetfunderraisers are unpaid aren't they (as opposed to what it says in the article)? Charlesknight 13:12, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Nope. Stifle (talk) 21:22, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
To clarify, the folks who want standing orders are (well) paid, those who look for coins generally aren't. Stifle (talk) 21:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Comprehensive rewriteEdit

The article as it stood was appallingly biased. It contained multiple uses of the coloquialism 'chugger' instead of 'street fundraiser' which is unacceptable and breaks Wikipedia's fundamental principle of a neutral point of view. [1]. The links section also needs rebalancing, with almost all of the linked articles having a mostly negative attitude to the subject.

18/11/06- added more links to address the unbalanced (nagative) focus of the section previously

25/09/07 - I have removed a large section of 'advice' on how to deal with fundraisers, most of which was blatant propaganda in favour of street fundraising. Wikipedia is not an advice service - it is an online encyclopaedia.Smurfmeister 09:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

08/15/2012 - In addition to being biased either for or against fundraisers, the article seems to be totally skewed to fundraisers in the UK. The same tactics are prevalent in most major US cities and undoubtedly other countries as well. Biotechgirl82 (talk) 18:06, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

81.157.80.222 (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)In the UK81.157.80.222 (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC) Doorstep F2F Many people seem to be most familiar with F2F fundraising that is carried out on the street. However, F2F on the door is a bigger source of new donors and donations for charities. Doorstep F2F does not present the same capacity and volume issues as does fundraising on the street. While door F2F is clearly encompassed by the current licensing laws contained in the House-to-House Collections Act 1939. However, many areas have set up Cold Calling Control Zones which are designed to deter cold callers.

Cold Calling Control Zones Cold-Calling Zones Many councils have designated certain areas as ‘Cold Calling Control Zones’ (CCCZs) or ‘No Cold Calling Zones’ CCCZs are initiatives of trading standards officers that are intended to protect residents from bogus doorstep callers and doorstep crime (such as distraction burglaries). The Trading Standards Institute has published guidelines on how CCCZs should be set up. This guidance includes: CCCZs should only be considered when supported by a “real” local need to stop sellers/callers – such as to prevent distraction burglaries, protect the elderly from bogus callers, etc The size of a CCCZ should be “relatively small” and “easily defined by its boundaries”, such as a cul-de-sac, small estate or neighbourhood watch area. The CCCZ must have the “wholehearted support” of residents. Consultation with residents is the first step. However CCCZs are not legally enforceable, which means that anyone who does cold call in a CCZ does not commit a criminal offence. The Institute of Fundraising Face-to-Face Activity Code of Fundraising Practice is clear on fundraisers’ responsibilities with respect to CCCZs. Charity fundraisers must not enter CCCZs that have been properly set up according to the Trading Standards Institute guidance. However, they are at liberty to fundraise within CCCZs that have not been set up according to TSI guidance (for instance, a CCCZ that encompasses an entire town or county) provided that they have: Undertaken a reputational risk assessment Have a previously-agreed policy on fundraising in CCCZs. More details on fundraising in CCCZs can be found in our section on Professional Standards. Cold Calling Stickers Door-to-door fundraising may fall under the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008. Though the application of the Regulations to fundraisers is not clear cut it is the PFRA’s opinion that in the context of cold-calling at people’s homes, the Regulations may, depending on the circumstances, apply to fundraisers.

A notice/sticker displayed on a home asking ‘cold callers’ not to visit whilst potentially applying to fundraisers may not, on its own, amount to a “request to leave” (an element of a criminal offence set out in the Regulations – see next paragraph).  It will all depend on the exact wording and position/prominence of the sticker.  Notices specifically addressed to charities/fundraisers are more likely to be caught.

If fundraisers ignore prominent notices that make it clear that fundraisers are ‘requested to leave’ then they risk breaching the Regulations. Such a breach may be a criminal offence, and if prosecuted individual fundraisers, the organisation they work for and/or its senior officers could face a fine of up to £5,000 in the magistrates’ court (and in very serious cases tried in the Crown Court, up to 2 years’ imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine). 81.157.80.222 (talk) 09:27, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Legal referencesEdit

There is a sentence that reads The changes to the Charities Act 2004 mean significant changes to Face-to-Face Fundraising - it doesn't say which jurisdiction this is about. Autarch (talk) 12:33, 24 July 2008 (UTC) House-to-House Collections Act 1939.(81.157.80.222 (talk) 09:32, 9 June 2015 (UTC))

ReferencesEdit

Moved this old suggested citation from the article: [2] PeterEastern (talk) 21:03, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

I feel that this article should be more related to other fundraising methods, e.g. events, telethons or direct mailings. Can this be done? Khnassmacher (talk) 13:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

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