Talk:Steve McQueen

Military module in infobox

We should remove the military module from the infobox because it puts WP:UNDUE emphasis on McQueen's military career which did not contribute to his notability. Certainly all the prose description of military service should stay in the article body.

A previous discussion of this type was concluded five years ago at Talk:Mel_Brooks/Archive_1#RfC:_Is_a_military_infobox_appropriate? The conclusion was to remove the infobox module. Binksternet (talk) 03:41, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

The guidelines at MOS:INFOBOX and Help:Infobox say local consensus determines what to put in infoboxes on a case by case basis.

The undue weight policy says nothing about notability. The policy on how much content to include on different aspects of a subject, WP:PROPORTION, again is not at all concerned with notability, or with the one thing that makes the subject notable. The WP:NPOV policy does not say articles should give weight only to the thing the subject is famous for. What it says is that we should be guided by our sources, and apportion the prominence of each aspect of a subject in accordance with what we find in our sources.

Everything I can glean skimming the tables of contents from the major sources we have here, like Steve McQueen: Portrait of an American Rebel, Steve McQueen: In His Own Words, Steve McQueen; The Salvation of an American Icon, Steve McQueen: A Biography and so on, is exactly what you'd expect: his years in the Marine Corps were not nothing; they were a significant chapter in his life and in later years that experience echoed. His former Marine comrades reappeared in his life because it was a big deal. Not a huge deal, but definitely something sources give attention to.

I do feel the use of the colorful icons and flags draws too much attention and is disproportionate. Several Featured Article biographies leave out the icons and that is appropriate here. It can also be said that the information "1946 (Merchant Marine) 1947–1950 (USMC), Private first class" can be put much more succinctly. In many cases the five or six lines consumed by {{Infobox military person}} can be condensed into a single line with no loss of information and a better balance of emphasis. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 05:28, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Comments and question

This was an interesting article. It was informative as well. I made some minor fixes/upgrades/improvements. I have a few comments and a question.

1. "In 1973, The Rolling Stones referred to McQueen in the song "Star Star" from the album Goats Head Soup for which an amused McQueen reportedly gave personal permission.[38] The lines were "Star f***er, star f***er, star f***er, star f***er star / Yes you are, yes you are, yes you are / Yeah, Ali MacGraw got mad with you / For givin' head to Steve McQueen".

This is garbage. It should not even be in the article. It's pointless and useless.

2. "They were hangared at Santa Paula Airport an hour northwest of Hollywood, where he lived his final days".

I assume "he" is referred to McQueen. If that's the case I would replace "he" with "McQueen" to avoid ambiguity.

3. "Yucatán is described as an "epic adventure heist" film, scheduled for release in 2013 but still unreleased in February 2016".

We are in 2022 and that's old information. It should be updated accordingly.

4. "Tag Heuer continues to promote its Monaco range with McQueen's image".

Range of what? This is unclear.

https://magazine.tagheuer.com/en/2020/11/24/monaco-mcqueen-legend/

Monaco is a range of wristwatches made by Tag Heuer. Mr Jolly (talk) 08:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

ICE77 (talk) 21:59, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Steve McQueen's parents. Louis D Mc Queen and Caroline B Culbertson .. married ... pub 18 Nov 1902

Indiana Tribune .. all in German. 76.26.107.11 (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)