Talk:Robert Stigwood

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We really have far too much of this article. --194.82.45.23 03:29, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. This is a good, in-depth description of this man's career. Eligius (talk) 01:06, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree this is far too much detail into Stigwood's business deals and not enough about his success such as with the Bee Gees who credit him with turning their careers around. This fact isn't even mentioned in this article only that they were at rock bottom in 1970. Stigwood turned the Bee Gees into superstars inviting them to provide songs for his Saturday Night Live film. This article seems a little biased and negative. Clean it up please. ~~

Negative - it's incredibly negative! I removed a () about "no doubt at NEMS expense" and was about to remove this bit of text "Five years later Travolta again displayed his now-legendary inability to pick roles"... now-legendary ability? Has this article been vandalised or something? There are lots of places where the text has this kind of petty, nit-picking with no sources and I can't see how to take them out without breaking something. A really bad article! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.195.135 (talk) 23:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Sources etc?

I don't know how to add the WIKI stuff but I've shown below a typical paragraph with the bits in CAPS that need serious work.

Later successes and disappointments

Stigwood moved into film and TV production in the early 1970s (SOURCE?). By this time the fortunes of his pop production enterprises had declined greatly (SAYS WHO?), and both his major acts struggled to regain their former glory. The Bee Gees broke up briefly in 1970 (SAYS WHO?), and after reuniting they floundered for several years ("FLOUNDERED"??), reaching a self-acknowledged "rock bottom" period in the early 1970s, by which time the former chart toppers had been reduced to (REDUCED TO??) playing the working mens club circuit in the north of England. Cream had split up in late 1968, although lead guitarist Eric Clapton remained signed to RSO, but his next project, the highly touted supergroup Blind Faith, which united Clapton and Ginger Baker with Steve Winwood (ex Traffic) and Rick Grech (ex Family) fizzled out after just one LP. Clapton made a promising solo debut with his critically praised self-titled 1970 album, and followed this by forming a new band, Derek & The Dominos, with ex-members of Delaney and Bonnie's backing group. They recorded an ambitious double-album with considerable input from Duane Allman, whom Clapton met and befriended just after the sessions began. Although Layla & Other Assorted Love Songs (1970) is now acknowledged as his masterpiece, the album's relatively poor critical and commercial reception (NEEDS SOURCES SURELY??) was overshadowed by the tragic deaths of Eric Clapton's close friends Jimi Hendrix (who died while the sessions were underway) and the subsequent death of Allman himself in October 1971. These tragedies, combined with the angst of his unrequited love for Patti Boyd (SOURCE??), sent Clapton into a downward spiral of depression and drug abuse (ARE WE SURE IT WAS "THESE TRAGEDIES"?). Derek & The Dominos broke up before a second album could be completed, Clapton withdrew from performing and he became addicted to heroin for several years (PROOF/SOURCE?). Happily (HAPPILY ACCORDING TO WHOM??) Clapton eventually kicked his habit (! BAD ENGLISH), and Stigwood took him back to Miami, where he recorded his very successful (BY WHOSE STANDARD?) 'comeback' album 461 Ocean Boulevard (1974), which included his US #1 hit version of Bob Marley's "I Shot The Sheriff". With his music ventures in the doldrums (BAD ENGLISH), Stigwood expanded into film production in the early 1970s with great success (SOURCE? ACCORDING TO WHOM?). His first feature was a hit screen adaptation of Jesus Christ Superstar (1973), made in association with its director, Norman Jewison. He followed this with the film version of The Who's Tommy (1975), which became one of most successful films at the box-office in its year of release.

This section has lots of stuff that needs sorting out but I don't want to break anything so the example above gives someone more skilled than I a starting point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.195.135 (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Hides non flattering information

Looks like this article was written by himself! Where is the information on the lawsuit from the Bee Gees claiming he had kept in his pocket money that the Bee Gees earned during Saturday Night Feever? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.225.149.123 (talk) 16:00, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Accuracy

Question:- Does anyone bother to check accuracy of these articles ? Serious question !

Robert Stigwood was born in 1934, the son of Gordon Stigwood (an accomplished engineer) and, with his parents, intermittently spent his early years in the Northern Territory before returning south to enroll at Adelaide University.

Now, in 1954 when this article claims he relocated to the UK, he was in fact a member of the Adelaide University Foot-lighters and busy playing the rear end of a pantomime horse (the front section was played by the late great Kevin Crease). After which, Robert worked in diverse places including Woomera. Later, whilst selling vacuum cleaners door to door for Electrolux, he won £1,000 at Cheltenham Races and, feeling this to be an untidy sum – too large to waste and too small to fritter – he and a companion (Neville Lemon) took off to seek their fortunes backpacking around the world. Upon arrival in India, he received a telegram telling him there was a suitable situation available in Brian Epstein’s organization providing he exdigitated. Robert, ever of the entrepreneurial bent, left Neville behind and did exactly that. The rest, as they say, is history.

With regard to said history – this article looks as if someone is trying to re-write it. Feedback would be appreciated as reading same made me feel as if at any moment someone was going to tell me I was not here !

'exdigitated' - what does that mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.240.82.127 (talk) 01:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

1Grandmama (talk) 11:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup

This article has got to be one of the most poorly organized articles I have ever seen on Wikipedia, especially of this length. First off, huge sections of the text are entirely unsourced, and the article needs to comply with MOS. Also, this article deals primarily with Stigwood's business dealings, and does not focus enough on the person. Normally, I'd fix the problems myself, but with so many issues plaguing the article, I think it would be best to start a discussion of it here. Johnny338 (talk) 22:41, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Years later and it still seems to have the same problems. It needs someone who has access to the sources listed. - Sitush (talk) 08:49, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Abba

I believe he was involved with ABBA too — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:540:C000:7B59:89C1:4324:B3F4:6A63 (talk) 03:33, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

There might be some confusion as ABBA was famously managed by Stig Anderson. Stigwood and Anderson were famous rivals at the time. JHvW 23:34, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

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This article is far too and needs citations. At present it reads like original research.--Grahame (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Last edited at 13:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 04:41, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Role in keeping Cream records out of circulation

For most of the 1970s recordings by the British band Cream were not commercially available in the United States. This should be addressed, as the band's catalog was under his control during this period.Dogru144 (talk) 23:13, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

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