Talk:Ranulf Higden

Proposed move

I would recommend moving this to Ranulf Higden, which seems to be by far the more common spelling in the literature cited here and other literature on my shelves. --Doric Loon (talk) 09:51, 11 January 2011 (UTC).

Technical request for move to Ranulf Higden submitted. (Currently, Ranulf Higden redirects to Ranulf Higdon.) Frans Fowler (talk) 15:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Polychronicon Link

The link "Polychronicon" within this article reverts back to this same page, which seems rather pointless. Perhaps it would be better to make the link point to a not-yet-existing article, in the hope that someone will write a separate article about it. Chillowack (talk) 20:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Link set to Polychronicon of Ranulf Higden Frans Fowler (talk) 16:04, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Date of birth?

The article gives Higden's d.o.b. as 'c. 1280'. This appears to derive from the Enc. Brit. article, perhaps that of the 10th - or earlier - edition. ODNB however makes no mention of a date of birth, which suggests to me that there is no substantial evidence for 1280, and indeed such precision is uncommon in the Middle Ages. I auggest that wikipedia either substantiate this date more adequately, or remove it.

MacAuslan (talk) 12:29, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Revision

I'm going to start revising this page and as such am hoping to find more about Higden's life to put in here. I've also noticed some things in the article that are mentioned but not explained, such as Higden being accused of plagiarism; I'm going to look more into this statement. It is my hope to find additional sources and information to fill out this page. Conflict of interest statement: I am a paid student employee at BYU. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 22:34, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for making that clear, and good luck with the editing. Richard Nevell (talk) 23:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I also just wanted to say that I'm probably going to change the citation style to multi-ref. I want to do this because some of the sources say a lot of similar things; multi-ref it will make it easier to specify which information came from which source. Any thoughts against it, or suggestions for another citation style? Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 23:05, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Death date

I'm having trouble verifying Ranulf Higden's date of death. The lede says that he died on March 12, 1364 (no source is attached and I cannot find any sources that verify this). Other sources say that he died during the Feast of Saint Gregory (in September), and yet another claims that he died in March 1363. Some say he died sometime between 1363 and 1364. Should I include all these in the article? In the lede should I say something like "Ranulf Higden or Higdon (c. 1280 - 1363 or 1364)" or do "Ranulf Higden or Higdon (born c. 1280, West England)" and just address the different death dates in his biography? What do you think? I would love your feedback! Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 21:18, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Heidi Pusey BYU If the contradicting sources are all reliable, I would recommend writing (c. 1280 - c. 1363 - 1364) to let readers know that there is a lot of uncertainty on this topic. The current lede cannot stand though. Scorpions1325 (talk) 01:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

See WP:BALANCE for more information. Scorpions1325 (talk) 01:35, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I think two hyphens or dashes in the brackets would look a little odd, but "Ranulf Higden or Higdon (c. 1280–1363 or 1364)" would be clear and reflect that the sources disagree. Then the disagreement can be addressed in the body of the article. Richard Nevell (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

I agree that the lede needs revision. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 18:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Scorpions1325 and Richard Nevell Thank you for your help! I will do that date range as well as address the contradictions in the biography section. Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 18:15, 5 April 2024 (UTC)