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The sentence, "However, it is an ordinary month for non-Muslims that live in the countries that use the Islamic calendar." seems a bit superflous to me. Perhaps it should be deleted.

Comment deleted. Next time, sign your post with four consecutive tidles (~~~~) joturner 02:29, 24 December 2005 (UTC)


Since ramadan is in fact not a holiday but just the month, why does this page exist? why is this information not on the same page as the other ramadan entry? i didnt see any discussion on the issue. it just doesnt make sense to me. Yung Wei 19:49, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

See Talk:Ramadan. The split was the result of a long discussion in December 2005. However, feel free to request a merger; I'd probably even support it. -- tariqabjotu 19:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Ten daysEdit

"Each year, Ramadan begins ten days earlier than in the previous year." How often have I heard that! But it's not true, as the table shows. Some years it occurs eleven days earlier than the previous year, and occasionally twelve. I'm hesitant to change the statement myself, considering that the cited source also makes the claim, but I find the inaccuracy unsettling. Unfree (talk) 12:29, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Can Ramadam start twice in the same year?Edit

If it's 10 days earlier than the previous year, is it possible, that in one calendar year, there could be a start of Ramadan in January and December? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:16, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes it can start twice in one calender year.Eiad77 (talk) 22:18, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

"one of the holy months"Edit

what are the other ones?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 16:36, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


Does the claim that Ramadan is "the month in which the Qur'an was revealed." break NPOV? Shouldn't it be "the month in which, Muslims believe, the Qur'an was revealed." —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:37, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

No. Your proposal is equally biased. "by tradition" could do. Gabriel Kielland (talk) 07:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I agree that some qualifier would be in place, and I do not think that the IP's proposal is biased. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Operation BadrEdit

Not sure if this even belongs in the event section, but if it's included it should at least be accurate. The war was not a comprehensive defeat of Egypt as previously stated.Eiad77 (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

but with Egypt regaining foothold on the occupied land and an overall Egyptian political success? funny if that is a success i don't know what failure is....why does this sentance have to be there at all just link it to the yom kippur war page — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC) these are the signs which allah said ..mushrik use to ask type of questions so, brothers and sistersits written in quran so how much is provided u should follow that much only

A cut and paste from the Mohammed talk page about PBUHEdit

This discussion did not occur here it was on the Mohammed article pageEdit

honorific -Difference between Prophet Muhammed and Politicians (ie Thatcher)?

Why should Margaret Thatcher honorific have here honorific (Right Honourable) but not the prophet?

Furthermore, "Right Honorable" is a title for Margaret Thatcher, not just an honorific, and that title comes from her profession, like "Doctor" would. The fact that it happens to be in her infobox doesn't mean it belongs there, and doesn't imply anything about any other infobox. Muhammad had no title associated with his profession, no title during his lifetime except possibly "prophet". SAW and PBUH are not titles, they are honorifics, and we don't use honorifics.

See also:
All of those things led to the infobox we have today, according to Amatulić on the talk page.

end of cut and paste.

That is why I did the revert on August 18, 2012. Geraldshields11 (talk) 20:28, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

And you did well. Debresser (talk) 00:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
Your welcome, Debresser My regards, Geraldshields11 (talk) 21:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Northern countries, long daysEdit

Sunrise to sunset can be very long in Northern parts of the world (even 24h, with midnight sun!), how do muslims living there typically cope with this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)


The article is missing both 1st (eg. Quran and Hadith) and 2nd-3rd level references. For example, in the first paragraph I've added the ambiguous phrase "according to common faith" for lack of a relevant reference. Also, referring to the homepage of the government of Pakistan (citation No. 6 in the current version of the article) is hardly specific enough for anything. François Robere (talk) 03:58, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Health and education issuesEdit

Both health and education issues have been criticized. Should be included. --Rævhuld (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

A citation needs a source--publication and page number/Edit

That is the basic needed to provide a ci and source. Until then you just might as well grab smoke and smear it on paper and call that your source. It is nit the reader's responsibility to justify your claims. WP needs a publication name and a page number. At resent that is lacking. the CI links back to a WP article. Again, it is not theresponsibility of the reader to determine wher your CI/source came from. PERIOD. All eleven times this is included in WP articles.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:37, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

"The reference contains a link, but the reference is not the link." You are going to have to provide a better route to the source. Just pointing at a book is enough to fulfill your obligation as a contributor to WP or fulfill the fundamental grounds of historical accuracy or testing.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:44, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
All eleven times the one "quote" is used in WP articles.2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 04:45, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
" Al-Haakim, Naim ibn Hammad, Kitab Al-Fitan " is cited as the source but "Kitab Al-Fitan" is a SEE ALSO on WP article "Naim ibn Hammad" which is also a redirect from "Kitab Al-Fitan". There is no WP Article on "Al-Haakim" so what is the CI except a merry go round in circles?2605:E000:9149:8300:8C39:927C:54DA:93BC (talk) 05:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
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