Talk:Postwar Japan

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Latest comment: 1 year ago by Ash-Gaar in topic Merger proposal

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I have made this page a timeline of the Showa period. This increase in the volume was enough to knock off 'stub' notation but might not be what should be here. Anyway feel free to contribute.

Revth 13:59, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Massive copyvio edit

Recent edits from Revolutionary were copyright violations - copy-and-pasted straight from Britannica - so reverted.

Unfortunately, this leaves the subsequent edit by 132.66.16.12 without a place in the article. Since appears original, here it is; perhaps someone can work it back in:

Another aspect in Japanese foreign policy was the Middle East. After 1952 the Japanese policy towards that region involved a dilema between pursuing relations with the government of Israel or relations with the Arab governments, this due to political pressures by the League of Arab States to refrain from any contacts with the Israeli government. The Japanese government, therefore, took a middle course betwen the two alternatives, maintaining diplomatic relations with both sides while keeping relations with the Israeli government at a low key. Diplomatic relations were established with the Israeli government at a Legation level on May 15, 1952. They were raised to Embassy level only on July 5, 1963.
As part of its low key involvement, the Japanese government refrained from advocating clear-cut solutions for the Arab-Israeli conflict, while supporting some form of compromise between the parties under UN auspices. This position was evident in the Japanese voting behaviour in 1967, as the Japanese UN delegation demanded an unspecified Israeli withdrawal without condemnations for Israeli conduct in the Six Day War. This changed on November 22, 1973, as the Japanese government began demanding an Israeli withdrawal from all territories occupied in 1967. This change in policy resulted from the oil crisis generated by OPEC. During the 1990s, the Japanese government endorsed the Israeli-Palestinian peace process and became a member among the donor countries to the Palestinian Authority.

-- JTN 23:35, 2005 Mar 20 (UTC)

Merger proposal edit

I propose that Postwar Japan be merged into Post-occupation Japan. As far as I can tell, they refer to nearly the same thing. "Post-occupation Japan" is an older and larger article, hence why I propose "Postwar Japan" be merged into it, rather than the other way around. Citobun (talk) 09:07, 15 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

Japan was occupied until 1952, so I don't think the title "Post-occupation Japan" would be very clear or accurate, because it doesn't account for the almost 7 years of occupation after the war. I agree it is confusing have two articles on more or less the same theme though. It you are going to merge it, please also rename the new merged page. I suggest "Post-World War II Japan", as that would be in keeping with other nominclature. There are alot of other "Post-World War II ...." articles, e.g. "Post-World War II Poland".Felixkrater (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2017 (UTC)Reply
Support merge in reverse-Postwar Japan is much more inclusive than the Post-occupation Japan period. Agree with Felixkrater's naming choice.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

    Y Merger complete. It made no sense to have two articles with identical information. "Post-occupation Japan" was the much more superior article. AmericanAir88 (talk) 04:01, 18 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'd like to see this moved to Postwar Japan. One would be hard-pressed to find history books covering the specific category of "post-occupation Japan" from 1952 to present. In fact, I can't find any at all in English. However, postwar Japan is a very significant field of study: Postwar Japan as History by Andrew Gordon, The Diplomatic History of Postwar Japan by Makoto Iokibe, Japan's Postwar History by Gary D. Allinson, Historical Dictionary of Postwar Japan by William D. Hoover, etc... Kate Riley2019 (talk) 12:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
I much prefer "postwar Japan" -- as do the reliable sources. Rjensen (talk) 15:12, 15 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I strongly agree with the consensus here, and not sure why this hasn't been done yet. "Post-occupation Japan" as a distinct time period lasting from 1952 to 1989 is not an actual thing. This is neither how Japanese periodize their own history nor how English language scholarship does so. Even a cursory search of academic literature shows overwhelming use of "postwar Japan" to describe this time period, and includes the Occupation. --Ash-Gaar (talk) 05:34, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
  Done: as per consensus. The page is now titled Postwar Japan --Ash-Gaar (talk) 14:16, 22 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

Post-occupation cultural developments edit

@TH1980: Have you read Murakami's first book? The source being cited is discussing the author's entire oeuvre, all of which either appeared after this period or at the very end of said period. Admittedly, the book was published in 1995, but there are still at least a dozen more representative "post-Occupation" authors who should be mentioned in this article before Murakami, and if you are that interested in show-horning Murakami into this article, then the WP:BURDEN is on you to do the work and add the others first. (The exact list can be found in any source discussing "post-Occupation". Most such sources no doubt completely ignore Murakami -- you need to find a source that does discuss Murakami specifically as a "post-Occupation" author along with all the other authors more representative of this period. The book Magical Realism : Theory, History, Community fails this test.) Hijiri 88 (やや) 01:34, 23 December 2015 (UTC)Reply