Talk:Police, West Pomeranian Voivodeship
Latest comment: 5 years ago by B dash in topic Requested move 21 November 2018
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source: Rocznik Statystyczny 1981, Główny Urząd Statystyczny, Warszawa 1981, Rok XLI
1960: 8.900 inbabitants
1970: 12.800 inbabitants
1975: 17.600 inbabitants
1980: 24.800 inbabitants
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Requested move 21 November 2018 edit
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The result of the move request was: Moved to "Police, West Pomeranian Voivodeship" (closed by non-admin page mover). B dash (talk) 02:57, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Police, Poland → Police (town) – There are multiple places in Poland with this name, see Police (disambiguation)#Poland. There is also ambiguity that it could be confused with the police in Poland in general, see Talk:Metro (Indonesia)#Requested move 17 November 2018 and Commons:User talk:Blackcat/Archive 13#Category:Police, Poland. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Poland-related articles#Towns and villages uses Police as an example of being unique in Poland, but it actually isn't. Police, West Pomeranian is another alternative. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:47, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support per nom. I would also support Police (city) as technically all towns in Poland are legally cities (miast) and this title would more clearly disambiguate it from the two other small villages in Poland and those in Czechia and Slovenia. — AjaxSmack 00:21, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Although the article does describe it as a town, maybe that should be changed. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Comment There was Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2009 August 30#Category:Police (town) and several moves back in 2009. We generally use "Place, Where" not "Place (what)" for disambiguation, except for cases where there is local ambiguity like Wolin (town) and Corfe Castle (village). There is also Cork (city), although there is probably little confusion with the county. If we don't think that the police force is ambiguous, then Police, West Pomeranian would appear to be the next best. If this was at Police (Poland) then that would be far more confusing, note that there is Hamlet (Oregon) and Hamlet, Oregon and Currency Creek lists a river and settlement, one disambiguated with brackets and one with a comma along with Indian River, Michigan/Indian River (Michigan). Its not clear how many people would think that the title relates to the law enforcement, but people unfamiliar with our NC might think topics are sub divided like that for example Economy, Poland instead of Economy of Poland. Crouch, Swale (talk) 12:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Précisément. The American-style comma convention works reasonably well for disambiguating places from other places (although I still think it looks unusual in many non-American contexts and there are cases such as Nagano, Nagano where many agreed the convention was flawed). However, when disambiguating place names from other very common terms not related to geography (e.g., cork [material]), the parenthetical more clearly differentiates the topics. — AjaxSmack 20:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think the reason for preferring "Place, Where" over "Place (what)" is mainly for consistency. Bigby, Lincolnshire could go under Bigby (village) but few settlements (or even most places) could go under "Place (what)" as most of them are ambiguous with other similar places and knowing the precise type of settlement is less common than the location. For Nagano, although "Nagano, Nagano" is accurate, it isn't clear or sensible as its tautological. For Cork, there is also the county, although that's not usually called just "Cork" and we tend to tolerate PDABs for subsidiary meanings, it at lest avoids the confusion of it being about corks in Ireland. Durham, England is not at Durham (city) as there are several cities by that name and Durham City (WP:NATURAL) hasn't been used as that's not common enough. Maybe Dollar, Clackmannanshire>Dollar (town) and Nancy, France>Nancy (city) should also be considered, but I doubt that there is much issue with those, since dollars aren't used in Scotland and the name doesn't appear to be common in France, while there is clearly police in Poland. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:02, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Précisément. The American-style comma convention works reasonably well for disambiguating places from other places (although I still think it looks unusual in many non-American contexts and there are cases such as Nagano, Nagano where many agreed the convention was flawed). However, when disambiguating place names from other very common terms not related to geography (e.g., cork [material]), the parenthetical more clearly differentiates the topics. — AjaxSmack 20:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- Move to Police, West Pomeranian Voivodeship. Surely the most obvious disambiguator given the names of the other two in Police (disambiguation)#Poland. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- Support Police, West Pomeranian Voivodeship per the others in Poland, per Necrothesp. Dekimasuよ! 19:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
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