Talk:Ottoman Tripolitania

Sanusi?

In the 3rd paragraph of "Reassertion of Ottoman authority" we find that spelling. I know of Senussi but not nearly enough about this topic to "correct" what seems to me a spelling error. --BenTremblay (talk) 21:09, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

The Senussi was later after Italy took over and then he was powerful

Libyan kid 543 (talk) 16:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Local tribal control

@R Prazeres

The sources I used to add information about the situation of Ottoman Tripolitania are reliable and credible, because they meet the criteria for evaluating sources on Wikipedia. These criteria include the following:

The sources are published by reputable publishers, such as Routledge, University of California Press, and RoutledgeCurzon.

The sources are written by experts on the history and politics of the Maghreb, such as Bruce Maddy-Weitzman, Ali Abdullatif Ahmida, and Yehoshua Porath.

The sources are based on primary and secondary sources, such as archival documents, official records, eyewitness accounts, and scholarly literature.

The sources are consistent with other reliable sources on the same topic, and do not present fringe or minority views.

These sources clearly show thei had a different status of Ottoman Tripolitania, as they were governed by local tribes and the Senussi order, who had a degree of autonomy and independence from the Ottoman authorities. This information is relevant and accurate, as it reflects the diversity and complexity of Libya’s past and present. Therefore, I think it is important to include this information in the article, as it improves the quality and accuracy. i hope this edit is beneficial for the article. Thank you. 41.254.71.16 (talk) 11:00, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

As I mentioned in my revert, this is an obvious case of block evasion by an LTA, with the same POV pushed by the last sock previously blocked ([1]). An SPI has already been opened, but I'm noting it here so other editors are aware and because further edits by block evaders should be summarily reverted per WP:BLOCKEVADE.

The block evader in question has consistently added misleading or confusing claims to articles while citing sources that don't support the claim as presented. This is again the case here, with two of the sources being irrelevant and one of them ([2]) saying something relevant but not what this badly-written edit says. Ottoman power was indeed focused along the coast, as was always the case. Even if we fix the edit somehow, it lends undue weight to an unremarkable point in a sentence that is intended to very briefly summarize the most important and easily verifiable facts about this period.

The relevant section of the article ("Reassertion of Ottoman authority") that should be explaining the actual nuances of this period is unfortunately brief and largely unsourced. Competent editors who are not violating a block are obviously welcome to expand and improve it in line with Wikipedia's content policies. (I'm happy to recommend some sources to start with, if anyone is interested.) If this is done, an expansion and update of the lead summary may be appropriate then. R Prazeres (talk) 01:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

May i have those sources ? Maybe i can read them Tripolilegend (talk) 23:51, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

? Tripolilegend (talk) 19:00, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@R PrazeresOk here is what i read about the subject of this talk page. Apparently both the ottomans and the locals were the one of charge, trabal chiefs and nobelsman of both Berbers and Arabs and the governors were the ones in practice who decided what happens (although sultans may had a bit of involvement in the firs years before the defeat of Awlad sulueman) but it was mostly a local administration as a smaller vassal. One instance found in an arabic book (i dont have access for the book) that the revellion in tunisia against french rule was joined by tripolitania until a battle in 1895 between senussi and the tripolitanians rose where it was the al zawiyya city tribesman who migrated to fezzan faced al zuwwaya tribes who were a senussi tribe where thus caused a battle between ottoman tripolitania and senussi where tripoli won but the conflict was solved with a peace treat. Another one is that the tripolitanian marched on to tebisti in defeat of awlad suleiman.it wasnt on of the sultan order (or faraman as it was called) Tripolilegend (talk) 19:16, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

^ Obviously the newest sockpuppet account by the same LTA. Reported. R Prazeres (talk) 19:20, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Algeria and trans sahara

@M.Bitton first time sourcing from the i don't know how to source it. secondly. it says "the Sahara and fezzan. and eastern Algeria". 165.16.20.30 (talk) 13:26, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

1) That's not a source. 2) If something isn't properly covered in the article's body, then it doesn't belong in the infobox. 3) I suggest you stop socking. M.Bitton (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2024 (UTC)