Talk:Old Style and New Style dates

Latest comment: 7 months ago by Ereunetes in topic Calendar v. Calender

start of year adjustment edit

In the section on start of year adjustment, there is the oddly specific statement "To reduce misunderstandings about the date, it was normal in parish registers" to dual-date the year. Using dual-dates (e.g. 1660/61) appears to have been common and widespread, not just confined to parish registers - it appears in Samuel Peyps' diary, for example - and it seems this section should be re-worded accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:589:300:CA70:A1F1:1346:4489:FBC4 (talk) 17:50, 30 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Good point. That sentence was probably written by an editor with an interest in family history, unaware of their unconscious bias. I have changed to read "To reduce misunderstandings about the date, it was normal even in semi-official documents such as parish registers" to dual-date the year". Other eyes welcome, no doubt it could be improved. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 19:40, 30 January 2022 (UTC)Reply

Missing abbreviation? edit

In the section Other Notations the text "abbreviated st.v. and respectively" appears to be missing the second abbreviation. Since I am not sure what it should be I have not attempted to add it. Reddogbarking (talk) 11:51, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

You've misunderstood: – the word "respectively" refers to the two translations that follow, "(of) old style" and "(in) old style". However, your confusion is understandable, as it's a somewhat convoluted and difficult-to-parse sentence. I'm going to attempt a reword, but somebody might want to do something more radical. GrindtXX (talk) 12:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Calendar v. Calender edit

This article is indirectly about the Julian calendar and the Gregorian calendar. I misspelled calendar in a wikilink to the first-mentioned article, and was not immediately alerted to the misspelling, because there happens to be a redirect for "Julian calender". So the misspelling must occur rather frequently, or there would be no use for the redirect. But when I consulted wiktionary I found that there is a legitimate English word "calender". According to Wiktionary it refers to a certain type of machinery. So when I went back to Wikipedia I indeed found an article Calender. So "Julian calender" is not just a spelling error that one may helpfully correct with a redirect page, but it may very well be an existing object that is now unintentionally masked by the redirect page in the unlikely case that someone wants to write it up in Wikipedia. Is there a solution for this kind of quandary? Ereunetes (talk) 21:33, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply

For the cognoscenti: it is possible to print a calendar (Julian of otherwise) on calendered paper. But I think this would definitely be "Old style".Ereunetes (talk) 21:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Anyone can edit a redirect page. If there is indeed such a thing as a Julian calender, and someone writes a Wikipedia article about it, the redirect page can be turned into an article. But if the thing doesn't exist, or nobody wants to write an article about it, we can leave things as they are. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:13, 13 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
But the main reason is that "calender" is an obvious typo for a visitor to make and we should respond to the intent. We should be forgiving about what we accept but unforgiving about we write. So, Ereuntes, your mission if you choose to accept it is to write a bot to go through Category:Redirects from misspellings once a week and correct any internal links to those pages, because they should not exist. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 22:38, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Write a bot? I can't evidently even spell correctly :-) Ereunetes (talk) 20:53, 16 September 2023 (UTC)Reply