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Approaches the size of Tasmania, yet nothing on the natural attributes? The strait sounds potentially amazing to paddle through. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.103.98 (talk) 09:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


265 megatons?Edit

One of the latter paragraphs is: "Over its entire history as a nuclear test site, Novaya Zemlya hosted 224 nuclear detonations with a total of 265 megatons of explosive energy. For comparison, all explosives used in World War II, including the detonations of two U.S. nuclear bombs, amounted to only two megatons." First of all, a citation is really needed for that. Second, "265 megatons of explosive energy" doesn't say much - it should be "with a total explosive equivalent of 265 megatons of TNT". I'll change it to that, and also add a "citation needed" note.

Emphasis markersEdit

Hello all. I have noticed that many transliterations of Russian names or words are done using auxilliary accent marks to denote stress. However, these accents aigus systematically get placed over the following letter, which usually happen to be a consonant (which is what happens when the letter and the accent are typed in the wrong order on the keyboard). I have only changed it in this article, but maybe someone could go through others with Russian transliteration? Cheers. =] //Big Adamsky 15:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps this discussion answers your questions?—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 15:19, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for advising, it did! Big Adamsky 17:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

CivilizationEdit

Any one *actually* live here, if even research scientists? Seems like a real cool place to live, or at least visit, once you get past 20 years of nuclear radiation. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.202.9.222 (talkcontribs)

Place for living / Nuclear testing placeEdit

Isn't is a little mean to shape this whole article like it was only a Nuclear Testing Facilty? People actually live there, but there is almost no focus on them. --Ysangkok 20:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

it was a testing Facility, there is no other way to go around 200+ nuclear tests "it's excessive" Markthemac 15:28, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Climate, Flora & Fauna, Physical descriptionEdit

Not much is said either about how the place looks, about its climate and what else lives there beside humans. Mohonu 03:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hoax: Pak MozgEdit

Section 2.2 describing the "Pak Mozg," a crab with an "exceptionally large brain, which dangles exposed beneath its dorsal shell," contains zero references. A Google search for "Pak Mozg" and "Professor Ichbonnsen," the referenced discoverer of the crab, brings up nothing more than a science fiction novel, "Monster Month: Thirty-One Days, Thirty-One Monsters," and a link to a related weblog. "Pak Mozg" is stated as "roughly translating from Russian to English as brain crab," which is also incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.210.220.79 (talk) 16:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Already removed precisely on these grounds. Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:03, April 24, 2009 (UTC)
(Above section entry would have been signed, but my browser crashed mid-post) — Aeröwyn (talk) 19:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
This is indeed a hoax, though "Pak Mozg" would be read as "Raak Mohzg", wherein the Russian letter P ("R" sound) is retained among the Latin script, just as all remaining letters are roughly equivalent in Cyrillic writing to their Latin counterparts, with the exception of the letters 'z' and 'g', which are not found in the Russian alphabet; such a spelling method is sometimes used when communicating in Russian using Latin script (e.g., in online settings or, more commonly, via SMS text messaging), in which the non-Cyrillic font is used to convey Cyrillic letters that are the same in appearance, while substituting for Cyrillic-only letters with equivalent transliterated letters. Thus, "Pak Mozg", literally "Crab, Brain" (due to the often reversed word order in the Russian language when compared to English) can indeed be translated as 'Brain Crab'. Silly, I know...but just because it is a "spoof" or hoax does not mean that simple transliteration/translation is invented too. 208.78.64.238 (talk) 03:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
This Pak Mozg is also referenced in the Tom Clancy novel Dead or Alive. AndrewK760 (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Norwegian Gåselandet (Goose Land)Edit

The normal Norwegian name of the island is the Russian name "Novaya Zemlya", and is what you will find on the maps. It may be that "Gåselandet" have been used in earlier ages, since it was more common to give specific norwegian names to places earlier, but it is not in use any more. Does anyone have any evidence that this name has been used? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.187.188.26 (talk) 18:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Avars?Edit

Avars (people from the North Caucasus, if the editor didn't mean elves from Silmarillion) are referred in the article as people resettled (together with Nenets) to Novaya Zemlya in 19th century. Absolutely impossible. It seems that this strange information origins from this Tom Clancy's novel. --V1adis1av (talk) 16:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Dutch name?Edit

Aside from the fact that there is a film with the same title (which is linked later in the article), it doesn't seem to be useful or relevant to include the Dutch name of the island at the beginning of the page. 18:06, 10 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.56.12.65 (talk)

Environmental effects?Edit

I'm surprised that there is no information here about radiation effects on this area of Russia from over 200 nuclear test blasts. How can it even be habitable? Or is all of this information still classified? Liz Read! Talk! 23:46, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

There were several test sites throughout the islands, and many or even most tests were performed underground, reducing the environmental effects. Furthermore, as far as I understand, the radioactive fallout from nuclear weapons has a relatively short half-life (compared to, say, the fallout from a Chernobyl-type disaster.) Hiroshima and Nagasaki were never rendered uninhabitable (although, of course, the size and number of weapons used there was a minute fraction of those used in Novaya Zemlya.) –Saruwine (talk) 22:24, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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Is Severny inhabited?Edit

I can see that there are settlements on the southern island, but is the northern one uninhabited? This would be useful to know! john k (talk) 13:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

@John K: The answer really depends on how you define "inhabited". There is a military base there and a port, so people can be found there at any given time, but there are no permanent civilian settlements (so a Census population count, for example, would report zero).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); July 10, 2017; 13:34 (UTC)

Nobody has said anything about the strait in between the two islandsEdit

Nobody has said anything about the strait in between the two islands.
How wide is it? How long is it? Can you see across it, like you can see across the Cook Strait in the middle of New Zealand, or you can see across the English Channel in good weather. No photo of the strait is provided. Is the strait navigable like the Cook Strait is?
How far is it from the southern tip of Yuzhny Island to the mainland of Asia? Can you see across that?
Very basic and obvious information is missing.
For example, I can get a photo of Adolf Hitler looking through a telescope from Calais, France, to the White Cliffs of Dover.24.121.195.165 (talk) 06:10, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Two large islands !Edit

You must not say "the island" when there are Two large islands, Yuzhny Island and Severny Island! It make you look as dumb as a stone!24.121.195.165 (talk) 06:45, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

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