Talk:Northern Cyprus

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 31 October 2023

This entry is misleading in its statement that the region is "officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus". It is an illegally occupied region unrecognised by any other state so to say official is incorrect. It could be stated that the Turkish state names it as such but otherwise it's simply Cyprus. 51.6.43.170 (talk) 16:54, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The use of the word "officially" refers to its own official description of itself, unrelated to what other states recognise it as. This usage also occurs in the articles on Somaliland, Taiwan, and Abkhazia. Liu1126 (talk) 10:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

The term official is wrong then as it suggests that it has a name that used internationally which doesnt occur. 2A02:3030:6E0:A2F2:FC2B:8A43:1F92:CA81 (talk) 07:58, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

The Republic of Turkey recognizes the TRNC, and they're both, whatever ones POV may be, sovereign and self-governing countries so the term "international" can be applied. 2A02:1810:2582:6D00:7D34:9FF6:3C64:6C02 (talk) 20:39, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 January 2024

I need to make a small grammar correction. Greenslugie (talk) 21:11, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 23:26, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 January 2024

Change (Land area) unranked to 166th and (Population) Unranked to 104th Kirkukturk3 (talk) 19:00, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

I think it would cause quite a lot of mess since all other (smaller) countries would have to be re-ranked. Alaexis_¿question? 20:02, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Jan 31 rv

@Beshogur, please explain ES: "randomly placed" in your rv. Thank you. TaBaZzz (talk) 21:48, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Taksim is already told in History section. You're jumping from Taksim ideology to coup d'etat which has nothing to do with eachother. Beshogur (talk) 23:24, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

The idea (Taksim) was realized (Turkish invasion), following the coup. The connection is clear. TaBaZzz (talk) 05:36, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

No it's not. You're comparing apples with pears. Beshogur (talk) 12:05, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Please explain the difference? TaBaZzz (talk) 15:40, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Cypriot coup d'etat is the reason to Turkish intervention, not Taksim. Taksim is not the cause. You're randomly placing this. That's it. Beshogur (talk) 22:36, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

No source say the only reason for the invasion is the coup. Multiple sources cover Taksim and the invasion together. TaBaZzz (talk) 08:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Nonsense. Even the article's lead starts with:

The Turkish invasion of Cyprus began on 20 July 1974 and progressed in two phases over the following month. Taking place upon a background of intercommunal violence between Greek and Turkish Cypriots, and in response to a Greek junta-sponsored Cypriot coup d'état five days earlier, it led to the Turkish capture and occupation of the northern part of the island.

The coup was ordered by the military junta in Greece and staged by the Cypriot National Guard in conjunction with EOKA B. It deposed the Cypriot president Archbishop Makarios III and installed Nikos Sampson. The aim of the coup was the union (enosis) of Cyprus with Greece, and the Hellenic Republic of Cyprus to be declared.

if you think otherwise, go edit there firt. But it's not true what you say. Beshogur (talk) 13:31, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

for the sake of consensus, I'll take your offer on this one. TaBaZzz (talk) 09:24, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

special:diff/1204925212 - so disappointing. TaBaZzz (talk) 12:06, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Disappointing what? It's the lede. There is a history section. You're simply POV pushing. You don't start a sentence like "Upon a background of" on wikipedia. Beshogur (talk) 16:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

You may have changed your mind, and it's you who brought the text. If anything, it's your POV. TaBaZzz (talk) 23:41, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC)

I think the term "officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" is wrong as the island of Cyprus is still under Turkish occupation and Officially not recognised as a country, only by the Turkish government which are the military force still occupying the northern part of Cyprus.

Maybe if you change it to "also known as the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" would help people understand more as this is misleading to people and countries that don't know the situation.

I hope that a worldwide known source of information as your site would try to be neutral in all political situations and try to get the facts right.

As i saw in other responses, the word "Official" is erroneous and totally misleading to false information.

And because i know your response of "The use of the word "officially" refers to its own official description of itself, unrelated to what other states recognise it as", the word "Official" is used in a formal or authoritative manner, where in this case none of that arguments are true.

There is no formal government apart from the one the occupying force of Turkey is authorising and TRNC has no authority in the world as it is NOT recognised as a country!!!

Again, i only ask to change the word officially to something more correct as stated above. 31.153.117.40 (talk) 18:22, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Officially in this sense is used to mean "what it calls itself". Same as how the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, the Commonwealth of Australia, and the Republic of Türkiye are the "official" names of those respective three states, but they don't actually have any ability to make you call them that and not Britain (or England), Australia, or Turkey. --2001:8003:1C20:8C00:6D5F:BFE3:2975:276E (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)