Talk:Nature deficit disorder

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Unsigned comment by Layton_billEdit

Funny, the subject of kids not playing outside in nature comes up all the time where i work. I live in a small city (30,000)in central British Columbia. Access to nature is easy here, we are surrounded by forests, wetlands, riparian systems on major and minor rivers. There exists, near the centre of town, many small, wild areas that kids could access. I spend a great deal of time near the Fraser River with my kids in the non-winter months, mostly because it is both free and fun! We make forts, and the kids play endless imagination games.

The area on the river we go to is a five minute bike ride from our house. Other than the couple of weeks when the river is in flood, it has cobbly beaches near the river, sandy areas, frequently flooded areas with small cottonwood and willow, then the less frequently flooded areas with mature cottonwood forest. It's all great fun, and what really amazes me is how, in a town of 30,000, practically no one uses it! You can spend all day there in summer and not see another soul.

I ask myself, "where are the kids, the teenagers, the forts?" And like an old gheezer, I find myself saying, "when I was a boy...", because, indeed, as children we seemed to do nothing BUT play in nature. We built endless forts, salvaging and dragging tons of old lumber from one place to another, building trails, finding special places to keep secret from rivals.

It seems like we hardly saw our parents! were they negligent to leave us like that? I can't remember having any serious injuries. Sometimes we'd pack up and stay out for several nights. In winter we'd camp in puptents in Garibaldi Park, climb 8000ft mountains and endure harsh storms and terrain. We'd climb with skinny X-country skis, using 100m "avalanche cords" to mark where to find our bodies in the event of an avalanche. We were careful, without the serious, organized sort of training available today. We had a mantra of food, raingear, hat, sunglasses, water, compass etc., and never left without them on a serious hike.

I believe that this "nature deficit disorder" will seriously impact society, and in ways that we just never foresaw. My own kids love to get outside and play, but they appear to be the exception.

Cause and EffectEdit

I would like to add a section listing possible causes and affects of "Nature Deficit Disorder"

Also I would like to add a few organizations who are working on this issue. Chesapeake Bay Foundation supports a coalition entitled "No Child Left Inside" ( A act similar to "No Child Left Behind") which proposes more environmental education in our school system. Does anyone know of any other groups working on this issue?--JuniperSpirals (talk) 04:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

ehh...Edit

This article looks a bit biased. I'm no expert, though. 68.196.237.153 (talk) 06:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

In what way? BC  talk to me 06:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Animals sectionEdit

Although the book quoted in this section deals with kids and nature, it doesn't deal at all with Richard Louv's Nature Deficit Disorder. The book was written in 2002, long before Louv's book was written. Since the topic of this article is Nature Deficit Disorder as defined by Louv, I recommend this section be deleted. BC  talk to me 06:45, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Why was the edit summary state this as vandalism?Edit

216.250.156.66 (talk) 20:26, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

It's addition of an inapprorpiate link, which you know was inappropriate. Sounds like vandalism to me. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 08:00, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

SolastalgiaEdit

It seems like this concept is at least distantly related to Solastalgia. Would this be appropriate in a See Also section?

YeauxRly (talk) 21:28, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it is very distant - but I won't remove it if you put it there. Lova Falk talk 09:35, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Unnecessary emphasis on United StatesEdit

The article appears to consider this phenomenon exclusively in terms of the United States. While it's possible that US children are more likely to experience this problem (perhaps?), the article should mention similar studies in other countries (if they exist). — Preceding unsigned comment added by WeRegretToInform (talkcontribs) 09:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup neededEdit

This article is in terrible shape and requires cleanup. Viriditas (talk) 02:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Nominate for deletionEdit

This is purely promotional bullshit, by a journalist who wants people to buy his book. Why the hell does Wikipedia have an article on this nonsensical concept? This is more or less a hoax.Kingshowman (talk)Kingshowman — Preceding undated comment added 18:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. I proposed deletion. ParticipantObserver (talk) 07:54, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
I suppose instead the question is how to make this article less promotional. Any thoughts? Currently most of the sources are Richard Louv and the Children & Nature Network (which was co-founded by Richard Louv), and most of the material in the article is the opinion of Richard Louv. Are there other entities that discuss this topic? The article is not neutral as currently written. Alternatively or in addition, the summary could be rephrased to put this into context. As written, the summary suddenly quotes Louv without any indication of who that is or why he would be quoted in the context of this phrase, when this should probably be flipped to introduce his journalism and only then describe the phrase nature deficit disorder. Thoughts?ParticipantObserver (talk) 08:49, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

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